Callaway Paradym Irons - 2023 Forum Review

[Javs]

Round three with the Callaway Paradym Irons. Today was a Men’s Club event so it counted. Number 1 I almost drive the green on the par4 at 336. I hit it 298 and a pitch lipped out for eagle. Birdie on the first! Second hole Hydrid, 3 wood then Callaway AW to 6 feet. Missed the putt. Solid par. Number 3: playing 165 into the wind hit an 8i on the toe and it still carried to the front of the green. Easy two putt par. My PXG’s hit that far on the toe would have been 10 yards short. This was a sign that these clubs are gamers! Number 4 driver Aw and 2 putts. Number 5 hit 3 wood and then a good solid PW but it flew 7 yards more than expected. I 3 putted from above the hole. That shot went 143 into the wind! Number 6 hit drive and a chocked down 7 iron to 8 feet from 172. My Goodness these clubs fly! Number 8 I had 162 and hit 8i over the green. Made a bogey. Nine was drive and had 189 pin. Hit 6i over the green. The one place you can’t miss, but made birdie with a great up and in! Time for the back. 
Number 10 hit drive and a LW to 10 feet and made par. Number 11 hit drive and had 128. Hit AW to 12 feet. Wrong side of the ridge and made a guarded par. Onto 12 and a fun par 5. Hit a big drive and had 186 into the green. Hit 6i over the back. Caught a bad lie and made par. Number 13 had 136 and hit PW to 12 feet. Missed the putt. Number 14 was playing 139 down wind. I decided to hit AW and with a full swing it jumped off the club flew to 12 feet. Guess who missed the putt! Number 15 had 135. Hit PW; however, it came out hot over the stick and green. Dead and made a good bogey. Ouch! Number 16 was 165 and hit a solid 8i over and into the bunker. Darn another bogey off what looked like a great shot. Number 17 hit a nice drive and AW to 6 feet. Of course I didn’t make it today! On 18 it was drive then 3 wood and pitch. To end the day with another par. 
Analysis: these irons are hot and easy to hit. I have extreme confidence over the ball! They are keepers!!

Edited May 3 by Javs

[Golf2Much]

@Beakbryce, I did a little experiment on a par 3 on this thread that discusses dispersion.  

in general, I’ve found that I get a tighter dispersion with the Paralympic X’s.   Both side to side and especially length. 
I find the Paradym X iron trajectory is lower than my Ping G30 irons.  The jury is still out for me if that’s good or bad.  My home Tees Jones course has well protected small greens that benefit from a higher trajectory.  However, here in Key West, there’s always a decent breeze that would favor that lower penetrating trajectory.  I need more rounds in different conditions to help me make that decision.  
As far as moving to a forward tee, I’ve been lobbying for it for a couple of years.   Our men’s league (play 3x/week) has an age/handicap total of 85 to move up.  So either I need to get older or worse faster!  And they are my so called friends!

[Javs]

1 minute ago, Golf2Much said:

@Beakbryce, I did a little experiment on a par 3 on this thread that discusses dispersion.  

in general, I’ve found that I get a tighter dispersion with the Paralympic X’s.   Both side to side and especially length. 
I find the Paradym X iron trajectory is lower than my Ping G30 irons.  The jury is still out for me if that’s good or bad.  My home Tees Jones course has well protected small greens that benefit from a higher trajectory.  However, here in Key West, there’s always a decent breeze that would favor that lower penetrating trajectory.  I need more rounds in different conditions to help me make that decision.  
As far as moving to a forward tee, I’ve been lobbying for it for a couple of years.   Our men’s league (play 3x/week) has an age/handicap total of 85 to move up.  So either I need to get older or worse faster!  And they are my so called friends!

I am also getting a more boring flight with the Callaway Paradym Irons than I received with my PXG’s. The PXG Gen 5’s flew high and long. The Callaway’s flight long and more medium height, but jump off the club like a gun shot. I am starting to love these irons!

[Golf2Much]

@ejgaudette, it has been my experience so far that even with comparable lofts, the Paradym X’s exhibit an over lower trajectory.   I’m still working with the irons to determine for my game, is it a positive or negative?  Time and more testing will tell! 

[ejgaudette]

9 hours ago, Golf2Much said:

@ejgaudette, it has been my experience so far that even with comparable lofts, the Paradym X’s exhibit an over lower trajectory.   I’m still working with the irons to determine for my game, is it a positive or negative?  Time and more testing will tell! 

Very interesting I am guessing that most would expect that they would fly higher given the goal of these irons. Maybe it is just a testament to the Pings and how they perform.

[funkyjudge]

Myrtle Beach - Rounds 4 and 5 with Paradym Irons:

In this update, I will be addressing rounds 4 and 5 using the Paradym irons (HZRDUS Silver 6.0 shafts) on my annual Myrtle Beach golf trip.  We played Meadowlands Golf Club on Tuesday, 5/2 and Tidewater on Wednesday, 5/3.  I will also provide a wrap-up summary of the nine full 18-hole and two 9-hole rounds that I have now played using these irons.

First, let me start off by saying that in the five official competition rounds, plus a warmup round, that I played using these irons in Myrtle Beach, the strength of my game in every one of those rounds was my iron play.  Even on the days where I didn't score very well, it was not due to my iron play.  Sure, there were a few thin shots (plus one fat one that I can remember over the course of six days), but these were rare ... and, of course, this was "operator error", not due to any fault of the irons!

Round 4:

In my fourth round, I did not score particularly well, and shot a round of 90, with far too many penalty strokes, all of which were the result of wayward driver and/or fairway wood shots. My iron play was still quite good, and I won $60 that day in closest-to-the-pin and skins money, all the result of my iron play.  I continue to find the Paradym irons to feel great on anything resembling solid, center-of-the-face contact. Ball flight with these irons is high and the flight bores into a headwind very well (the ball certainly helps, as does the ability to hit a knock-down shot when required).  I am getting better at selecting the correct club for the desired shot distance. As was the case both the previous day, and the following day, winds were VERY strong for this round, with steady winds of 20-25 MPH and gusts exceeding 35 MPH, according to the Weather Channel. In this round, it was necessary for me to hit several low "punch" shots into strong headwinds, and the Paradyms were up to the task on every occasion.

Because my long game off the tee was so horrendous on the front nine, plus the 10th hole (I shot 47 on the front nine with 7 penalty strokes - three OBs and an unplayable lie), I went with an "all irons" approach for the final eight holes, and hit the Paradym 5-iron off the tee on all of the par-4 and par-5 holes (and one par-3 of 188 yards).  I had four pars and a birdie over the course of these final eight holes, and even reached one par-5 hole in three with 5-iron, 5-iron, plus 7-iron.  The birdie was a thing of absolute beauty, with a 205-yard slightly downwind 5-iron off the tee, 8-iron approach to about six feet and one putt.  This won me a $40 skin!  My closest-to-the-pin this day also came on the back nine, with that same 5-iron to the 188-yard par-3 (into the wind - to a bit less than 11 feet).  Many of the 15 other golfers who played that day didn't hit this green, and before I posted my CTP distance on the sheet, the closest was outside of 20'.  Needless to say, the Paradym irons contributed greatly on both of these money-winning holes!  My total score on the back nine was 7-over 43 with an 8 on the 10th hole before going to the all-irons strategy beginning on hole #11.

Round 5:

Winds were even stronger on Wednesday, with steady winds above 25 MPH all day and topping 35 much more frequently than on Tuesday.  In spite of this, I was hitting the ball much better off the tee, particularly with both my driver and 5-wood. [A quick aside -- I hit two downwind drives of 295+ yards on par-5 holes this day, and reached the front of the green on one of these holes with a 5-wood and had only a PW second shot on the second of the par-5 holes where I cut the corner over some trees with my driver, only to dump that PW shot into a deep greenside bunker and take two shots to get out, but I saved my par with a one-putt].

The Paradym irons were still the "star of the show" during this final round, and I carded an 80 yesterday, but here is the caveat in that score: We were on our final day, many of the golfers on our trip had either very long drives home (including me!) or early afternoon flights, so we were allowing "gimme" putts (none were allowed the first 4 rounds) and instead of going back to the tee and rehitting on lost or OB tee shots, dropping where the ball went OB or was lost and taking one penalty stroke. I didn't hit any tee shots OB, and had no lost balls on this day, but I was given a few 4-foot "gimmes", which I considered rather generous because the greens were extremely fast and had lots of undulation to them. I did have one penalty stroke on this round for a ball that was right up against a tree trunk; thus, I had to take an unplayable lie penalty there.

My only misses with the Paradym irons, other than the slightly "fat" PW shot that I hit to the one par-5 mentioned above, were somewhat long and left. Some of this was due to the winds, but a few times my "long lefts" were not wind-aided. Still, the irons were performing very well yesterday, and every iron shot felt solid, with the exception of that "fat pitching wedge".

Six Round & Overall Summary:

I say six round summary, because we played a non-competition warmup round last Friday.  However, if you have read my earlier updates posted here, you know that we had strong thunderstorms  plus I jammed my ring finger on one shot on Sunday. Thus, I only got in 8 holes that day.

Overall, the Paradym Irons were the real stars of my $188 winning trip. This put me in first place on the trip-long money list, even though I was ineligible to win any money on Sunday because I only played 8 holes (only 11 of the 16 golfers finished 18 holes on that day). I most likely would have won both a skin and a CTP on Sunday, because I stuffed an 8-iron to 4 feet on a 138-yard par-3 and made the birdie putt. The winner of that hole's CTP only hit it to a little less than 18', and there were no other birdies that day except on a par-5.

After nine full rounds, and two nine-hole rounds, the Paradym irons continue to shine and perform above my expectations in most every measure.  My only real problem with these irons has been with distance control, However, I am getting that sorted-out.  I do think that I may need to flatten the lie angles another degree (they were already built to -0.5* lie angles by Callaway Golf).  However, I am going to leave them at the current lie angle settings until after my final review, as this is how they were delivered.

Final comment -- I absolutely LOVE these irons!!!

Edited May 7 by funkyjudge

[Javs]

Round Four with the Callaway Paradym Irons in one of our weekly money games.  Made four natural birdies. Shot one over par. Starting to realize how strong these irons are compared to my PXG Irons. Example if it looks like 8i, I have to go 9i with the Callaway’s. Still flew three greens which caused a couple bogeys. Some key notes from the round. These irons are still flying with a nice tight draw. However, they can be worked both ways. I am getting good at flighting down shots. Especially, since most of the round today I was in-between clubs. Hammered a 7i 183 into the wind to hit one of the par 5’s in two. Hit a PW 139 into the wind on a par 3 to 8 feet. Hit a nice drawing 6i from 192 to 15 feet. Even miss hit shots are generally acceptable.  My accuracy is getting better each round with these clubs. However, I am not stiffing it as often as I would like. Much of that is contributed to getting familiar with these new yardages. The misses tend to be long. Each round I am more confident over the ball and expecting great shots. Confidence can take you a long way! They are about to earn a permanent spot in my bag! 

Edited May 5 by Javs
Fourth Round Update

[funkyjudge]

On 5/4/2023 at 5:00 PM, Javs said:

Round Four with the Callaway Paradym Irons in one of our weekly money games.  Made four natural birdies. Shot one over par. Starting to realize how strong these irons are compared to my PXG Irons. Example if it looks like 8i, I have to go 9i with the Callaway’s. Still flew three greens which caused a couple bogeys. Some key notes from the round. These irons are still flying with a nice tight draw. However, they can be worked both ways. I am getting good at flighting down shots. Especially, since most of the round today I was in-between clubs. Hammered a 7i 183 into the wind to hit one of the par 5’s in two. Hit a PW 139 into the wind on a par 3 to 8 feet. Hit a nice drawing 6i from 192 to 15 feet. Even miss hit shots are generally acceptable.  My accuracy is getting better each round with these clubs. However, I am not stiffing it as often as I would like. Much of that is contributed to getting familiar with these new yardages. The misses tend to be long. Each round I am more confident over the ball and expecting great shots. Confidence can take you a long way! They are about to earn a permanent spot in my bag! 

I am with you regarding “clubbing down” with the Paradym irons, even into the wind! With my other irons, even the ultra-strong lofted Cobra King Forged Tec X irons, my 7-iron goes a bit less than 150 yards, but 155-158 yards is the norm without any type of wind assistance when using the Paradym 7-iron. I’m a 110-113 yard guy with other pitching wedges, but about 122 yards with the Paradym PW.  I don’t normally carry a 5-iron in my bag because I was only hitting my old 5i about 5-6 yards longer than my 6-iron (about 167-170 yards at best with the 5i), but I easily hit the Paradym 5-iron more than 180 yards (much more when there is any helping wind).  This is from a guy who generates only about 80-83 MPH with my 5 and 6-iron swing.

Edited May 7 by funkyjudge

[Javs]

    Round 5 with the Callaway Paradym Irons and use of the Rapsodo MLM. We played a two man scramble against our buddies. So, there wasn’t an individual score. Also at times during the scramble I was over swinging. Some key notes: the irons are now consistently 1 club to a club and a half longer than my PXG’s. Hit a 7i 183 through a cross wind to 10 feet. Nice tight draw. Shot shaping can happen, but the irons seem to want to move right to left. They do not balloon and you know when you hit the ball on the button. Only the face of the iron is forged so, these are different than the PXG’s. The Paradym’s are best described as hot players distance clubs. 
     The use of the Rapsodo MLM on the range has not yet produced accurate metrics. The instructions say that you should use premium balks for best results. The use of range balls of various quality greatly alters the data. I have found my range finder with slope on the course giving me the most accurate feedback. However, will continue to try to dial in the Rapsodo MLM. 

[Javs]

28 minutes ago, funkyjudge said:

I am with you regarding “clubbing down” with the Paradym irons, even into the wind! With my other irons, even the ultra-strong lofted Cobra King Forged Tec X irons, my 7-iron goes a bit less than 150 yards, but 155-158 yards is the norm without any type of wind assistance when using the Paradym 7-iron. I’m a 110-113 yard guy with other pitching wedges, but about 122 yards with the Paradym PW.  I don’t normally carry a 5-iron in my bag because I was only hitting my old 5i about 5-6 yards longer than my 6-iron (about 167-170 yards at best with the 5i), but I easily hit the Paradym 5-iron more than 180 yards (much more when there is any helping wind).  This is from a guy who generates only about 80-83 MPH with my 5 and 6-iron swing.

Yes, I do not normally carry a 5i either. Especially since I usually carry 3 hybrids. These irons are so long that I still might not need the 5i that much. When 7i is going at least 176 and the 6i is flying mid to high 180’s. For the 200 yard shots I feel more comfortable using a hybrid especially out of bad lies. 

[funkyjudge]

Just now, Javs said:

Yes, I do not normally carry a 5i either. Especially since I usually carry 3 hybrids. These irons are so long that I still might not need the 5i that much. When 7i is going at least 176 and the 6i is flying mid to high 180’s. For the 200 yard shots I feel more comfortable using a hybrid especially out of bad lies. 

I usually carry a 5-hybrid for 185-195 yard shots, and a 7-wood for 200-210 yards. However, due to the distances that I am getting with the Paradym 5 and 6 irons, I altered my bag setting to 4-hybrid (200-210 yards) and “homemade heavenwood” (19.5* loft, 41.5” long; good for 220-225 yards).

[Golf2Much]

Last week I hit golf balls five days in a row.   It included twice in my home course men's league, nine holes playing iron only, at the World Golf Village's Slammer & Squire course and at the University of North Florida's driving range.  For me, that's ALOT of golf swings and I'm paying for it a little today.  All were in attempt to get a better understanding of the Paradym X's iron performance and to provide some data on how they perform.  

Like @Javs, I recently purchased a Rapsodo MLM launch monitor to help provide me some insight into the differences between my existing Ping G30 and Callaway Paradym X irons.  I purchased a refurbished unit from 2nd Swing (roughly $200) and was impressed that it looked new when I opened it.  On this trip, I purposely packed my G30 9 and 7 irons along with my full Paradym X set in hopes in getting data on both irons.  Luckily the UNF golf team practice facility was only about 10 minutes away from my hotel which gave me the perfect opportunity to test both sets of irons and gracefully bow out of having to take a bus tour of St. Augustine with my meeting partners (win-win).

Once I got the Rapsodo MLM properly set up and running, I hit roughly 15 balls with both Ping and Callaway 9 and 7 irons.  At this point, I need to disclose that disclosure I was pretty stiff from playing four days in a row so I might not have had my best swings.  No hot tub at the hotel and I forgot the Advil.  Given the range balls where well used Callaway range balls, I knew that whatever numbers generated would not be truly representative of what I could expect on the course with a more premium golf ball.  So, I wasn't focused on the absolute numbers generated, but more of the relative numbers between the two sets of irons.  I started with the Ping G30 nine iron.  It took a few more extra swings to get warmed up (again, four straight days of golf), so I viewed those numbers as a little on the lower side.

After the driving range session, I went back to the hotel and looked at the numbers.  Overall, I liked the resulting graphics.  The images below are screen shots of what the output.

    

Since I wasn't sure about how to tag the different irons, the G30 data was the 9i and 7i, while the Paradym X's nine iron was displayed at the 8i and seven iron displayed as the 6i respectively.  

The table below highlights all the data I collected.

Again, we need to take these numbers with a grain of salt as it collected carry distances with "experienced" range balls.  The relative data tends to show a few things for me.  In general, I hit the Paradym X's with a little tighter dispersion.   I know the G30 9 iron showed a little less lateral dispersion, but that was at the start of my session and just warming up.   The Paradym X seven iron distance dispersion was almost twice as good as the G30 and generally more centered on the line to the target.  The Paradym X's carry distance was consistently better than the G30 (12 yards longer on the 9 iron and 7 yards on the 7 iron).  With roughly the same club head speed for each pair, I got 4 or 5 more mph out of the Paradym X's.  Smash factors were slightly higher on the Paradym X's as well.  Given the more aggressive face angles of the Paradym X's, the launch angle was 2-3 degrees lower than compared with the Ping G30.  

Overall, the Callaway Paradym X's are starting to grow on me.  I like the slightly longer distance and greater consistency that I'm seeing with them on this range exercise and on the course (especially distance dispersion).  The jury is still out however on if they will stay in the bag.  My home course's small greens require a higher ball flight to hold them.  So, for me it's the tradeoff of getting that extra yardage versus ultimately holding the green with the overall lower trajectory.  It will take a few more rounds to be able to feel confident in my decision.  

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Javs]

12 minutes ago, Golf2Much said:

Last week I hit golf balls five days in a row.   It included twice in my home course men's league, nine holes playing iron only, at the World Golf Village's Slammer & Squire course and at the University of North Florida's driving range.  For me, that's ALOT of golf swings and I'm paying for it a little today.  All were in attempt to get a better understanding of the Paradym X's iron performance and to provide some data on how they perform.  

Like @Javs, I recently purchased a Rapsodo MLM launch monitor to help provide me some insight into the differences between my existing Ping G30 and Callaway Paradym X irons.  I purchased a refurbished unit from 2nd Swing (roughly $200) and was impressed that it looked new when I opened it.  On this trip, I purposely packed my G30 9 and 7 irons along with my full Paradym X set in hopes in getting data on both irons.  Luckily the UNF golf team practice facility was only about 10 minutes away from my hotel which gave me the perfect opportunity to test both sets of irons and gracefully bow out of having to take a bus tour of St. Augustine with my meeting partners (win-win).

Once I got the Rapsodo MLM properly set up and running, I hit roughly 15 balls with both Ping and Callaway 9 and 7 irons.  At this point, I need to disclose that disclosure I was pretty stiff from playing four days in a row so I might not have had my best swings.  No hot tub at the hotel and I forgot the Advil.  Given the range balls where well used Callaway range balls, I knew that whatever numbers generated would not be truly representative of what I could expect on the course with a more premium golf ball.  So, I wasn't focused on the absolute numbers generated, but more of the relative numbers between the two sets of irons.  I started with the Ping G30 nine iron.  It took a few more extra swings to get warmed up (again, four straight days of golf), so I viewed those numbers as a little on the lower side.

After the driving range session, I went back to the hotel and looked at the numbers.  Overall, I liked the resulting graphics.  The images below are screen shots of what the output.

    

Since I wasn't sure about how to tag the different irons, the G30 data was the 9i and 7i, while the Paradym X's nine iron was displayed at the 8i and seven iron displayed as the 6i respectively.  

The table below highlights all the data I collected.

Again, we need to take these numbers with a grain of salt as it collected carry distances with "experienced" range balls.  The relative data tends to show a few things for me.  In general, I hit the Paradym X's with a little tighter dispersion.   I know the G30 9 iron showed a little less lateral dispersion, but that was at the start of my session and just warming up.   The Paradym X seven iron distance dispersion was almost twice as good as the G30 and generally more centered on the line to the target.  The Paradym X's carry distance was consistently better than the G30 (12 yards longer on the 9 iron and 7 yards on the 7 iron).  With roughly the same club head speed for each pair, I got 4 or 5 more mph out of the Paradym X's.  Smash factors were slightly higher on the Paradym X's as well.  Given the more aggressive face angles of the Paradym X's, the launch angle was 2-3 degrees lower than compared with the Ping G30.  

Overall, the Callaway Paradym X's are starting to grow on me.  I like the slightly longer distance and greater consistency that I'm seeing with them on this range exercise and on the course (especially distance dispersion).  The jury is still out however on if they will stay in the bag.  My home course's small greens require a higher ball flight to hold them.  So, for me it's the tradeoff of getting that extra yardage versus ultimately holding the green with the overall lower trajectory.  It will take a few more rounds to be able to feel confident in my decision.  

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Great breakdown of the Rapsodo MLM. My results were also in line with yours. The data is obviously slower and shorter using the range balls. However, I did see 6 to 14 yards more with the Callaway Paradym’s

[Javs]

3 hours ago, Javs said:

Great breakdown of the Rapsodo MLM. My results were also in line with yours. The data is obviously slower and shorter using the range balls. However, I did see 6 to 14 yards more with the Callaway Paradym’s

The 8i 173 distance was the Callaway. The other the PXG 8i. However, data is off with the range balls. (For instances my actual driver swing speed is 109 and 8i swing speed is around 87). Also, the videos are a little off angle. I am still getting used to the MLM. I was hitting to targets on the left and had the MLM too far off to my left. However, thought it good enough to get a general key take-away that the Callaway was 21 yards farther with similar ball strikes on the range. On the course, the Callaway has been consistently going 169 with the 8i compared to 154 with the PXG 8i. That’s a significant distance gain. 

   

 

Edited May 8 by Javs

[MattWillGolf]

My home course was busy today with an event. So, I wandered over to a little Par 62 course near my house for a round of irons only. I am definitely not seeing the distances which were "hinted" at by Trackman at my fitting. (Still searching for that 170-yard 7 iron. ) These clubs on course are a bit longer than my regular gamers. Today I did struggle a bit with the 5 iron (21.5°). In my gamer set, the closest club to the Paradym X 5 iron is my Ping G410 Crossover #4 at 23°. We were limited somewhat in our set makeup. If I were to buy these clubs, my set would have been 6-iron thru GW. I did purchase the GW for this set on my own. The shorter irons are where the improvements are more noticeable for me. These clubs especially, 8 - GW, really get the ball in the air quite well. And my general accuracy does seem to be much improved. 

Just some examples of the 9-iron on a couple of Par 3s.

 

[Javs]

58 minutes ago, MattWillGolf said:

My home course was busy today with an event. So, I wandered over to a little Par 62 course near my house for a round of irons only. I am definitely not seeing the distances which were "hinted" at by Trackman at my fitting. (Still searching for that 170-yard 7 iron. ) These clubs on course are a bit longer than my regular gamers. Today I did struggle a bit with the 5 iron (21.5°). In my gamer set, the closest club to the Paradym X 5 iron is my Ping G410 Crossover #4 at 23°. We were limited somewhat in our set makeup. If I were to buy these clubs, my set would have been 6-iron thru GW. I did purchase the GW for this set on my own. The shorter irons are where the improvements are more noticeable for me. These clubs especially, 8 - GW, really get the ball in the air quite well. And my general accuracy does seem to be much improved. 

Just some examples of the 9-iron on a couple of Par 3s.

 

Great feedback on your irons! You offered a few great points that I would like to engage. First, I agree that if I were purchasing this set on my own that I would go with the 6i to GW. However, to complement this set with my game I may add another PXG 0311 wedge or retool with the Edison wedges. Haven’t decided on that direction just yet. Next I am seeing huge distance gains with the Callaway Paradyms’ over my PXG Gen 5 P’s. So much, that I am shocked! The Callaway Paradym feel and perform like a cast club (the face plate and cavity are the only forged portions). The PXG’s perform and feel like a true forged club. So, there could be a feel expectation some players may not want to give away. Because of the extreme length I really don’t need the 5i. As the distance above the 6i would be covered by a hybrid which is easier and more reliable from bad lies. My experience has been a more boring trajectory with the Callaway Paradyms’ over my PXG Gen 5 P’s. I do wonder since you are gaming the Paradym X that might be the difference in the flights? That is an important point for those following. If your game needs distance and height then the X might be their best bet. However, if you desire a players distance club category then it is the Paradym. Lastly, I am starting to see more predictable accuracy as I get used to the Paradym’s. I still feel I was more accurate with the PXG irons. However, the accuracy advantage is not great enough to give up the distance gains with the Paradym’s. I think all golfers would love to see 7 to 21 yards more per club! 

[funkyjudge]

2 hours ago, MattWillGolf said:

My home course was busy today with an event. So, I wandered over to a little Par 62 course near my house for a round of irons only. I am definitely not seeing the distances which were "hinted" at by Trackman at my fitting. (Still searching for that 170-yard 7 iron. ) These clubs on course are a bit longer than my regular gamers. Today I did struggle a bit with the 5 iron (21.5°). In my gamer set, the closest club to the Paradym X 5 iron is my Ping G410 Crossover #4 at 23°. We were limited somewhat in our set makeup. If I were to buy these clubs, my set would have been 6-iron thru GW. I did purchase the GW for this set on my own. The shorter irons are where the improvements are more noticeable for me. These clubs especially, 8 - GW, really get the ball in the air quite well. And my general accuracy does seem to be much improved. 

Just some examples of the 9-iron on a couple of Par 3s.

 

I haven’t hit a 170 yard 7-iron YET with the Paradym irons, but I have hit a few 158-160 yard 7-irons.

Edited May 9 by funkyjudge

[Javs]

26 minutes ago, funkyjudge said:

I haven’t hit a 170 yard 7-iron YET with the Paradym irons, but I have hit a few 158-160 yard 7-irons.

Do you still find them longer than your normal clubs? I find them significantly longer than my other clubs. Sometimes almost scary long. 

[funkyjudge]

23 minutes ago, Javs said:

Do you still find them longer than your normal clubs? I find them significantly longer than my other clubs. Sometimes almost scary long. 

Yes, I absolutely find the Paradym irons to be about 10 yards longer than even my Cobra King Forged Tec X irons, which are long in their own rite.  You may have seen my comment in another thread that my matchplay opponent yesterday, against whom I have played dozens of times, asked me if I have been working out. This was right after I airmailed a 5-iron almost 10 yards over the back of a par-3 hole that was 179 yards to the pin, thus about 185-190 yards to the back edge of the green.

[Javs]

11 minutes ago, funkyjudge said:

Yes, I absolutely find the Paradym irons to be about 10 yards longer than even my Cobra King Forged Tec X irons, which are long in their own rite.  You may have seen my comment in another thread that my matchplay opponent yesterday, against whom I have played dozens of times, asked me if I have been working out. This was right after I airmailed a 5-iron almost 10 yards over the back of a par-3 hole that was 179 yards to the pin, thus about 185-190 yards to the back edge of the green.

I did see that, big strike! I have had similar experiences. Especially on Saturday where I hit a 183 yard 7i in a cross wind to 10 feet. I can’t remember hitting a 7i that long unless it was at elevation and over 100 degrees. Not at 70 degrees and windy!

Edited May 10 by Javs