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Yeah; that stinks for him.  He's fun to watch when he's on form.  Hope he can come back from this.  Back injuries for golfers are no joke.

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Yesterday on Instagram Monte posted about Sam Bennett and players like Will Z. and others who have this type of swing.  It's bad that players are coached to open up that much in the downswing... sad!

https://www.instagram.com/p/Cqyi3YFOj2S/

Hopefully, when he comes back from surgery, he will have developed a new swing that is more sustainable.  Tiger did; so did Rocco.

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That is very sad news.  I hope he can find some relief and get back to playing form... WZ is an incredible talent.  

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I read some quotes from him earlier this morning that he was already seeing some positive benefits from the procedure, which just goes to show how much pain he must have been in still. Glad he is going to take this year to recover and hopefully return to form next season. Willy Z is one of my favorites to watch. 

 

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Having that surgery myself, some years ago, caused me to completely overhaul not only the swing physically, but my mental approach to the swing. I lost a lot of club head speed, not only due to the fact that my muscles had to be re-conditioned, but also the ever lingering question "will I hurt myself again". Once the back has been compromised surgically, there's no telling how the surrounding muscles and spinal discs will react to an increased load, especially from a tour players swing. I hope he can make a good enough recovery to play at a tour level again, but he will never be the same player as before......... 

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Sad to hear, I was hoping to see him really put it together this year.   I'm glad he's taking the time to do the right thing with his back and get it taken care of before it destroys his career.  This will go a long way to actually achieving some longevity.    I hope he and his team can keep him from rushing back too soon, too quickly -- and when he does from having unrealistic expectations for the first year.

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5 hours ago, fixyurdivot said:

Looks like Will Z. is out for the rest of the season¬†ūüėĎ. Hope he can return to form next season.¬†¬†

Man this sucks.

Hope the best for him and that he can return with vengeance. He is so talented and still got kinda done hard in his first season. Hope this doesn't effect him too much longer term with the new format as well. 

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4 hours ago, ballhawk said:

Having that surgery myself, some years ago, caused me to completely overhaul not only the swing physically, but my mental approach to the swing. I lost a lot of club head speed, not only due to the fact that my muscles had to be re-conditioned, but also the ever lingering question "will I hurt myself again". Once the back has been compromised surgically, there's no telling how the surrounding muscles and spinal discs will react to an increased load, especially from a tour players swing. I hope he can make a good enough recovery to play at a tour level again, but he will never be the same player as before......... 

That last sentence is the absolute truth or at least in my case and I am slowly coming to grips with it. But then again he is young and maybe can recover from it better than an old guy like me. He also has talent and can maybe make swing changes not to reinjure himself and play just fine

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9 hours ago, Kenny B said:

Yesterday on Instagram Monte posted about Sam Bennett and players like Will Z. and others who have this type of swing.  It's bad that players are coached to open up that much in the downswing... sad!

https://www.instagram.com/p/Cqyi3YFOj2S/

Hopefully, when he comes back from surgery, he will have developed a new swing that is more sustainable.  Tiger did; so did Rocco.

Bennett's turn is wicked, like borderline violent.  I'd have to look at Will's again but it sounds like they are similar.  I know many have poo-pooed my comments and reservations about all this swing for Jupiter speed training, but for some people's physical kinematics, this may not be a good fit over the long haul.  Wear n' tear happens, and sometimes subtlety with no issue, then suddenly becomes an issue. 

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9 hours ago, Kenny B said:

Yesterday on Instagram Monte posted about Sam Bennett and players like Will Z. and others who have this type of swing.  It's bad that players are coached to open up that much in the downswing... sad!

https://www.instagram.com/p/Cqyi3YFOj2S/

Hopefully, when he comes back from surgery, he will have developed a new swing that is more sustainable.  Tiger did; so did Rocco.

I saw the same video. It's unreal the amount of side bend some of these guys have going on, and seeing the stills of how compressed their ribcage and lower back look is painful to me as a 50 something. Absolutely no way I'm trying anything like that... I'll settle for my 250-275 and play longer.

 

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7 hours ago, fixyurdivot said:

Bennett's turn is wicked, like borderline violent.  I'd have to look at Will's again but it sounds like they are similar.  I know many have poo-pooed my comments and reservations about all this swing for Jupiter speed training, but for some people's physical kinematics, this may not be a good fit over the long haul.  Wear n' tear happens, and sometimes subtlety with no issue, then suddenly becomes an issue. 

Many many moons ago my old man did a course in I guess you would call it now Sports Medicine. I know he briefly was a trainer at North Carolina State University before WW2. When I was learning the game the "reverse C" was all the rage. He cautioned me on it and showed me why it would cause damage. I never did it. As I can recall it all of the reverse c guys except Colin Montgomerie had back problems down the line. I think with Monte it was the fact he had always been bulky and had a strong core and he had a smooth swing never overloading himself and shock loading the back. The only reason I have back problems for those who are new here is because I had a traumatic injury at work in 2020. 

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As someone with chronic back issues, I feel for the kid. Unfortunately, one back surgery usually leads to another & another. 

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14 hours ago, Headhammer said:

As someone with chronic back issues, I feel for the kid. Unfortunately, one back surgery usually leads to another & another. 

My regular Doc is a golf buddy of mine and I trust him with my life. When I had my accident all my paperwork was referred to him. Now my Neurologist told me later on about the nerves in the back. He told me that after 45 years of practicing medicine that he did not like to hack around in the back (his words not mine) and that there was no definite positive reason to do surgery on me that the nerve damage was permanent and basically they could make it worse. My regular Doc who is a Cardiologist by specialty told me the same thing. Come to find out they know each other. I have good days and bad days and I take it in stride and deal with however the cards are dealt each day. Lately it has been good most of the time. The only meds I use are Tylenol and CBD and that is only when I need them. Last weekend it was rainy cold and raw here and I did stiffen up some so I did medicate some last weekend. Monday when the weather cleared my back cleared also and have played golf so far everyday this week. Something that helped me immensely was going to graphite in my irons

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On 4/10/2023 at 5:31 PM, fixyurdivot said:

Bennett's turn is wicked, like borderline violent.  I'd have to look at Will's again but it sounds like they are similar.  I know many have poo-pooed my comments and reservations about all this swing for Jupiter speed training, but for some people's physical kinematics, this may not be a good fit over the long haul.  Wear n' tear happens, and sometimes subtlety with no issue, then suddenly becomes an issue. 

Here's the YT version for those who don't have an IG account.¬† I'm so glad Monte didn't suggest this move in his on-line analysis of my swing¬†ūüėĪ.¬†This is a great analysis/discussion.¬† Interesting points about "the moves" from the days of Nicklaus, Weiskopf, and Tiger, and that those too introduced excessive wear n' tear.¬† Do we have any of our younger spies using this swing model?¬†¬†

 

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back injuries are scary. His career could be over. 

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Years ago, Golf Digest published a swing sequence with commentary by Harvey Penick.  Unfortunately, I can't remember the player but Penick predicted the player would have back problems as a result of keeping his left heel on the ground during the back swing.  He was right.  In fact the player was already having problems.  Another famous victim of back problems was Cary Middlecoff.  Find some swings of his online and you'll see a lot of similarities to Bennett through impact.

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It’s obvious what really caused his injury…4BC445B3-72A7-4625-8F59-29118123621B.gif.29653b6336e4e4588f0aaeec82537b23.gif

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Kid is fun to watch. Hell of a player, but I will say when he gets on the green I'm nervous for him.

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On 4/13/2023 at 10:35 AM, Quigleyd said:

back injuries are scary. His career could be over. 

There was a segment on the GC the other day dealing with back injuries. On that subject I always listen intensely. They are making big strides in like regeneration surgery. It was very intriguing how they have found out how to get blood and more oxygen to regenerate damaged cells etc. Maybe these new techniques can help Will immensely. Now if they can find a way to regen him a putting stroke

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I feel for the guy!  Back issues are tough to live with and even tougher to overcome without major changes to one's swing.  

In today's never relenting quest for distance, I have to believe that back and knee issues will become more prevalent in today's younger golf professionals.  No matter how much they work out, the aggressive golf swings of today's players will ultimately take its toll on their bodies.  

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