Garsen Putter Grip - MAX - 2023 Forum Review

[GolfSpy_BEN]

Got a chance to play a round today at Majestic Springs with the Garsen MAX grip. The results were positive. I had 3 lag putts of 30+ feet that finished within 6” of the hole. The 2 one-putts were from 12’ and 15’ respectively. Finished with 34 total putts, which is 1 fewer than my average for 18 holes but more importantly 0 - 3 putts. The nightly testing with the MAX has been a little streaky, but on the course today when it mattered, the MAX performed admirably. 

[Subdiver1]

1 hour ago, Ben Joest said:

Got a chance to play a round today at Majestic Springs with the Garsen MAX grip. The results were positive. I had 3 lag putts of 30+ feet that finished within 6” of the hole. The 2 one-putts were from 12’ and 15’ respectively. Finished with 34 total putts, which is 1 fewer than my average for 18 holes but more importantly 0 - 3 putts. The nightly testing with the MAX has been a little streaky, but on the course today when it mattered, the MAX performed admirably. 

I like the look of those metrics.  Easy to read and discern form the static and background noise of some other apps and devices I have seen.  Interesting. 

That is one of the things I liked about the Swing U app, but I like the layout/look and detail here.  No 3-putts is a nice day!  Cheers. 

[GolfSpy_BEN]

I decided to put the MAX and the Quad Tour up against one another on the practice green at Southwest this afternoon. Using random distances and lies, I set up a ball for each putter. In the photos I gave the Quad Tour a Callaway Chromesoft x LS and the MAX got a Taylor Made Tour Response w/ the lime green band.

 

The first putt was approximately 15 feet.

The MAX made the putt, while the Quad Tour left it about 2’ short.

The next putt was similar in length but played right to left.

Both putts lagged nicely.

 

 

 

This putt was approx. 8 foot with little break

 

I pushed both of these putts to the right, with the Quad finishing tighter to the hole.

 

This putt was at least 40’ away, so the goal was to put a good lag close

 

The max came close to making it and left a desirable 18” come back putt

 

I repeated this process about a dozen more times to varying success. On the whole, both putters had good rolls and head scratchers, similar I suppose to an actual round. 
 

One other note: part of the impetus for this test was seeing how the MAX would perform in above 80 degree temps under direct sunlight. Here in Southwest Ohio we went from spring to summer seemingly overnight and the temps have climbed above 80 on the daily and seem like they are here to stay. I have a round planned for Saturday when the high is expected to top 90. I was curious how the grip would perform when my hands were sweaty from the heat. I can report that I did not notice any slickness or sliminess and the putter did not show any ill effects from the temps, humidity or the sweat that was running down my forearms as I was standing over these putts. Obviously in actual playing conditions I would be toweling the grip and my hands prior to putting, so this was more to satisfy my curiosity.

[Caddie1966]

I have 4 rounds in with the MAX installed and frankly the results are beyond impressive.  My average putts per round prior to the MAX being installed was 32.4 per round.  Not very good.  My average with the MAX installed is 28.  4.4 strokes gained putting for me.  Which sounds unbelievable but is absolutely real.  The MAX average also includes 1 zero putt green as I holed out for eagle on a hole and I have a grand total of one 3 putt green in those four rounds.  The eagle and 3 putt came today.  3 putt: I was 60 feet away uphill all the way. 1st putt ended up 4 feet past about a foot off line, left.  I lipped out the 4 footer downhill comeback putt to register my first 3 putt in 4 rounds.

Admittedly, the sample size is small with 4 rounds vs nearly 40 earlier this year with the OEM installed.  But I have not had 4 straight rounds averaging 28 putts EVER.  My misses are far closer to the hole than pre MAX as well.  I attribute all of this to the YIP reduction I have experienced with the MAX.  

As I mentioned when I was selected for this test, I have been a conventional OEM grip guy my entire 58 years of playing.  I had NEVER putted even a practice putt with an oversize grip let alone one designed like the MAX.  The separation the MAX creates in my putting grip essentially aligns my hands on the side of the putter and makes me stand a bit closer to the ball as my wrists and elbows lock more.  This has changed my stroke and made me a more effective and efficient putter.

Below you can see my grip with the MAX and how my hands separate slightly.  I have felt one putt in the 112 I have made in the past four rounds that I would classify as a YIP.  I made the next putt after that YIP.  I would YIP 3-4 putts each round prior to the MAX resulting in wildly missed putts left, right and short.  

I will test the Ultimate and Quad Tour after the MAX review is submitted.  I intend to use the Ultimate on my PING.  I have included a picture of that putter face below.  You can see the wear mark on the toe side of the sweet spot.  Hopefully the Ultimate will enable me to hit the center of the putter face once installed.  The Quad Tour will be installed as a replacement for the MAX on my Odyssey EXO 7.  If it performs like the MAX, I will have a lot of soul searching to do deciding which becomes the gamer.

[ZackS]

This test got me looking into the grips and the Max was very interested as how I grip it I have always battled and gone back and forth as to which thumb would get to be on the flat. I decided to pull the trigger. I have played to rounds with it and it definitely felt a little odd due the first round but the 2nd round I am already getting used to it. In the round one I had 31 putts and round two 29 putts. Interested in see the testers final reviews and their thoughts. 

[golfinnut]

On 5/18/2023 at 10:45 PM, Ben Joest said:

I got a chance to do a little testing of the Max at the practice green at driving range, I spend entirely too much time at, this afternoon. I measured distances of 5’, 10, & 20’, then marked those spots with tees. I chose an area of the green that allowed for straight putts.

I took six putts from each distance with the following results:

From 5’

I made 2 and left the other four within tap-in range.

From 10’

Again, I made 2 and left the other 4 within tap-in range.

From 20’

I made 1, left 3 within tap-in range, and 2 were within 3’. Granted those 3 footers can be knee-knockers at times, but overall I’m okay with the results from 20’.  
 

Early in my “getting to know you” period with the Max I was struggling a bit. A closer look determined that my grip wasn’t right. I was holding it as such:

I wasn’t comfortable or confident with this grip, and it showed as my putts were either pushed or pulled, too short or too long. I messed around a bit with a claw, but that, for me, has never felt natural. 

I tried lowering my trail hand down the grip a bit, so it looks like this:

Funny a little change of hand position has made a significant difference. As evidenced, above in the 5’ & 10’, my misses were line related rather than speed, there were no egregious pushes or pulls either. 
 

I plan to play a round with the Max this weekend, so I’ll have some more data to add to what I collected on the Ultimate Rossie from last weekend. 
 

Also, there is one point separating the top two competitors in the Basement Putting Mat Shooutout. 

 

So do you think the MAX grip is supposed to be held with more of a split handed grip?  Your stats were better once you split your hands 

[GolfSpy_BEN]

27 minutes ago, golfinnut said:

 

So do you think the MAX grip is supposed to be held with more of a split handed grip?  Your stats were better once you split your hands 

I can’t speak to Garsen’s intent, but I can say that a split-handed grip for the max has been successful. Interestingly enough, the hand positions I use for the Ultimate and Quad Tour are more overlap than split-hand. 

[GolfSpy_BEN]

I got out for another “testing” round this afternoon. 
 

The good: 32 putts total, including 4 one  putts. My average putts per round prior to this test was 35, so this round i gained 3 strokes putting, which is nice. On the majority of my two putts, I lagged close enough, so the 2nd putt didn’t have me nervous at all, again, which is nice.

The bad: I don’t have any thing to report here. It was a good round, again, which is nice.

[jaz29]

Did Garsen offer a discount code for those of us that want to order through MyGolfSpy?

[Subdiver1]

One more round in the bag yesterday using the Max grip. The review for this round and the Max is a bit mixed. 34 putts for the day including 3 3-putts, yikes! Granted, this was the first time I played this course, or in this state (NV) and there were some surprising breaks. But I also had a couple of 1 putts and quite a few edge burners and overall speed control was solid; the 3 putts were what they were.  Anyway, still leaning toward keeping the new grip in the bag, but this round gave me a but of a pause. Full, final write up coming soon to a blog page near you!

Instead of a new post on rounds and experience with the Max grip I am going to go a head and add to this post.  After the rough round this past weekend I got out and played my regular Tuesday night 9-hole league ... (dramatic pause) ... and had 13 putts.  One of the things I think this shows is the off-set between new courses and familiar ones.  Can I/we really use performance on a completely new course in evaluating anything new (equipment, swing style, technique)?  The problem I see including the new course performance into this evaluation is that I would need to go back and pull every 1st round at a new course with the original putter and see if I could log data that shows better performance with one putter (or any other piece of equipment) on those initial experiences over another.  So, I am throwing out the NV round from this evaluation and only including rounds on familiar courses against original performance to see if I can see a trend there.  

Of course the other problem we see with round to round comparison would be that if my short game during round a averaged 20 feet to the pin on approach shots and X 2-putts, and round be average approach was 3 feet, then the only truly valid comparison would be if round A was equal or better 1-putt numbers showing that the equipment in round B was detrimental overall because though closer to the pin, more putts were missed from that shorter proximity.  Make sense?  So, what am I getting at here?  Well, while course performance is DEFINITELY important in this evaluation, we REALLY need to also consider approach proximity when deciding whether it is the putter that has improved, or was it our approach game that drastically reduced proximity to the pin that improved putts/round performance?  So, while I am going to complete my evaluation based on feel and the performance changes I have seen, I am going to work on going back to see if I can compile distance to the pin and how that correlates to any change in overall putting performance.

Thanks for reading.  Love to hear your thoughts?

 

Edited June 7, 2023 by Subdiver1

[GolfSpy_BEN]

6 hours ago, jaz29 said:

Did Garsen offer a discount code for those of us that want to order through MyGolfSpy?

Not that I am aware of. Although, @GolfSpy_APH can probably confirm one way or the other.

[Caddie1966]

My putting today was not as stellar as it has been the prior three rounds with the MAX, 33 putts as opposed to an average of 28 the previous 3 rounds.  However, my distance from the hole today on my first putt AVERAGED 28 feet on the front and 22 on the back.  I had one 45 footer and a 50 footer which led to 3 putt greens because I missed a 4 footer and 6 footer second putt on those respectively.  I did still have 5 one putts today including one 15 footer.  I attribute this performance more to my lack of proximity to the hole than the putting itself.  My game inside 150 was horrible today.

[GolfSpy_APH]

11 hours ago, jaz29 said:

Did Garsen offer a discount code for those of us that want to order through MyGolfSpy?

No discount code, but they were running a special on the grip pack where you could get the 3 grips the testers are using for a discount. Not sure if it is still running though. 

[ZackS]

On 6/3/2023 at 5:54 PM, golfinnut said:

 

So do you think the MAX grip is supposed to be held with more of a split handed grip?  Your stats were better once you split your hands 

I would say it’s just a personal thing. I purchased a Max after looking into it when this test came up and use a reverse 2 finger overlap grip. My grip is why the Max interested me, because my hands are so bunched my thumbs have always fought for which would be on the flat portion of the grip. This grip is definitely a different feel after so many years of traditional grips. But after two rounds, I’m pretty much used to it and been really liking it.

[Subdiver1]

On 6/5/2023 at 6:07 PM, Caddie1966 said:

My putting today was not as stellar as it has been the prior three rounds with the MAX, 33 putts as opposed to an average of 28 the previous 3 rounds.  However, my distance from the hole today on my first putt AVERAGED 28 feet on the front and 22 on the back.  I had one 45 footer and a 50 footer which led to 3 putt greens because I missed a 4 footer and 6 footer second putt on those respectively.  I did still have 5 one putts today including one 15 footer.  I attribute this performance more to my lack of proximity to the hole than the putting itself.  My game inside 150 was horrible today.

Damn, I hate to hear those kind of numbers, let alone see them, from a fellow hacker, unless of course your match is against me and we are playing for that winning $500M lottery ticket that is in your pocket  

Seriously, having had "those days" I know how frustrating it can be as the player, or as a member of a groups watching it happen. one just cannot help but empathize.  Anyway, I didn't see your post before I edited my Monday edition, but I essentially echoed your point; "lack of proximity to the hole," may drive data.  If the data shows that on prior rounds with another grip we had more 3-putts and with similar proximity and this grip we have fewer, Great!  But absent that specific data it is hard to measure whether there truly is any empirical improvement, or if it is just subjective, maybe based on feel or a desire to believe the grip is helping.  I am really going to try to dig into my Shot Scope data to see if I can dig out comparable proximities and putting performance.  That is one of the shortcomings, in my opinion, of ShotScope and some of the Apps I have tried, I cannot (as far as I know) pull data just for all rounds played on Course A or Course B.  There are only lists of rounds or ranges of dates that the data can be drawn to.  So, I may have to do some serious research and spreadsheet development, but work family and of course golf kind of need some attention as well.  

Anyway, great observation.  Glad I am not the only one to think of this.

Cheers.

[Thin2win]

So, is the Max the star of the show? Of is one of the other actors looking like the Oscar winner?

[GolfSpy_BEN]

1 minute ago, Thin2win said:

So, is the Max the star of the show? Of is one of the other actors looking like the Oscar winner?

I don’t want to give away the ending with our final reviews coming at the end of this week, but I will say that for me 2 of the 3 exceeded my expectations. And the other was perfectly adequate.

[Caddie1966]

6 hours ago, Subdiver1 said:

Damn, I hate to hear those kind of numbers, let alone see them, from a fellow hacker, unless of course your match is against me and we are playing for that winning $500M lottery ticket that is in your pocket  

Seriously, having had "those days" I know how frustrating it can be as the player, or as a member of a groups watching it happen. one just cannot help but empathize.  Anyway, I didn't see your post before I edited my Monday edition, but I essentially echoed your point; "lack of proximity to the hole," may drive data.  If the data shows that on prior rounds with another grip we had more 3-putts and with similar proximity and this grip we have fewer, Great!  But absent that specific data it is hard to measure whether there truly is any empirical improvement, or if it is just subjective, maybe based on feel or a desire to believe the grip is helping.  I am really going to try to dig into my Shot Scope data to see if I can dig out comparable proximities and putting performance.  That is one of the shortcomings, in my opinion, of ShotScope and some of the Apps I have tried, I cannot (as far as I know) pull data just for all rounds played on Course A or Course B.  There are only lists of rounds or ranges of dates that the data can be drawn to.  So, I may have to do some serious research and spreadsheet development, but work family and of course golf kind of need some attention as well.  

Anyway, great observation.  Glad I am not the only one to think of this.

Cheers.

Thanks for your observations and feedback.

if we were playing for that$500M winning ticket in my pocket, it would be next to a concealed device designed to inhibit others from coveting said ticket.   And if I lost it, my wife would empty such device in my carcass.

I did track proximity for the MAX review.  I did it by walking off the distances. (Not rocket science but I did spend 15 years as a VP in the satellite industry and know more about telemetry, transponders, transmission frequencies and orbital slots than I care to discuss).  
 

My proximity for 5 rounds with my OEM grip was 14.3 feet for my first putt.  It was 14.9 feet when I was using the MAX grip.  I also paced off 2nd and 3rd putts.  The first putt proximity was only if the ball was on the green and includes post chip, pitch and bunker shots as well as approach shots inside 250.  

I don’t know any other way to do it.  There is no app that does this.  The tour uses dedicated equipment on each green to measure proximity.  The only other way I can think to do it is to use my range finder but then my playing partners might shoot me.  

You could use GPS coordinates assuming you can get to the minute and second level, but then again, another projectile might be involved.  

[Subdiver1]

18 minutes ago, Caddie1966 said:

I don’t know any other way to do it.  There is no app that does this.

I like the idea of being able to compare actual in rounds performance vs. just controlled, practice green testing; but then, as you would know from your background, controlled testing does give us the most unbiased, reliable results.  Sounds  like an an interesting career BTW.  My Shot Scope watch does measure putt distance, to some degree of accuracy, and I try to validate that when I review the rounds.  Sounds like an interesting career BTW.  The problem with pulling the proximity data from Shot Scope is again, that I cannot just pull proximity data from each course say that over the last 3 years, I can pull the attached aggregate numbers and get a general idea of overall, on course performance.  In summary, the Shot Scope data shows:

Improvement between 0-9 feet

Degradation between 9-24 feet

Improvement between 24 and >30 feet

 3% more 1-putts, 1% fewer 2-putts and 1% fewer 3-putts

[Caddie1966]

6 hours ago, Subdiver1 said:

I like the idea of being able to compare actual in rounds performance vs. just controlled, practice green testing; but then, as you would know from your background, controlled testing does give us the most unbiased, reliable results.  Sounds  like an an interesting career BTW.  My Shot Scope watch does measure putt distance, to some degree of accuracy, and I try to validate that when I review the rounds.  Sounds like an interesting career BTW.  The problem with pulling the proximity data from Shot Scope is again, that I cannot just pull proximity data from each course say that over the last 3 years, I can pull the attached aggregate numbers and get a general idea of overall, on course performance.  In summary, the Shot Scope data shows:

Improvement between 0-9 feet

Degradation between 9-24 feet

Improvement between 24 and >30 feet

 3% more 1-putts, 1% fewer 2-putts and 1% fewer 3-putts

Wow.  I was unaware of that function on a shot scope watch.  But as you said previously, you would have to spend considerable time building and populating a spreadsheet to track it across all the courses you play.  The ap developers get more creative all the time.  Perhaps in a future release, they will add a function that allows for accumulating data on putting proximity to the hole.  I’ll have to check into the shot scope watch as I am unfamiliar.  Thanks for the clarification 

[Subdiver1]

On 6/8/2023 at 5:21 AM, Caddie1966 said:

 Perhaps in a future release, they will add a function that allows for accumulating data on putting proximity to the hole

There are other data points, the first (shown here) combined set of charts screen shot, are under Performance/Overview and the second two individual screen shots are under Performance/Strokes Gained.  I tried Arccos and was not as happy with the putting measurements and some other features, not to mention the annual subscription fees.  There is definitely some good data from the watch/app.  I primarily use it for figuring out where my misses are and validating carry etc. so I know club choices to make on the course; and of course to see how that is working out for me.  

 

The last shot is a neat feature I just stumbled across.  It looks like when you share rounds on the Course Hub it compiles a listing of everyone who does so and ranks those listed according to several metrics.  While I'd like that same ability to compile all my rounds by course so I could compare performance we are discussing here, this is a pretty cool feature that has some interesting potential for doing some kind of monthly or annual challenge.  Kind of off topic, but it happened as part of this discussion so I figured I'd add it FYI.

[Caddie1966]

3 hours ago, Subdiver1 said:

There are other data points, the first (shown here) combined set of charts screen shot, are under Performance/Overview and the second two individual screen shots are under Performance/Strokes Gained.  I tried Arccos and was not as happy with the putting measurements and some other features, not to mention the annual subscription fees.  There is definitely some good data from the watch/app.  I primarily use it for figuring out where my misses are and validating carry etc. so I know club choices to make on the course; and of course to see how that is working out for me.  

 

The last shot is a neat feature I just stumbled across.  It looks like when you share rounds on the Course Hub it compiles a listing of everyone who does so and ranks those listed according to several metrics.  While I'd like that same ability to compile all my rounds by course so I could compare performance we are discussing here, this is a pretty cool feature that has some interesting potential for doing some kind of monthly or annual challenge.  Kind of off topic, but it happened as part of this discussion so I figured I'd add it FYI.

That is interesting.  Very cool that the SS watch can do all this.  I started to look into SS after our discussion the other day.  I may be a user soon.

[Subdiver1]

I have another tournament round tomorrow.  I plan on getting there early and doing some of my testing plan there.  I've only played this course once before, about a year ago (354 days to be precise), so it will basically be "new."  I do not have Shot Scope data from that round, but I do know I had 28 putts that day.  So, the idea will be to compare "controlled environment testing" as one metric and round to round testing as another.  The round last year was a 5-over round with no 3-putts, 12-putts going out and 16 coming back in.  It will be interesting to see what tomorrow holds.  I will update this post with the results, maybe some pictures and hopefully a medal, or a check  

Following that I'll be posting my final review.

Edited June 10, 2023 by Subdiver1

[GolfSpy_BEN]

With the final review posted, one of my takeaways from the testing period, is the nightly putting contest between the 3 grips had a positive effect on my overall putting. With that in mind I will running a new contest over the next month. The MAX and the Ultimate will be returning and I’ll be introducing a new competitor, A Odyssey Tour Line Eleven, that just arrived today. The only decision left will be whether I get a MAX or an Ultimate to put on it, as the OEM grip is awful. More to come…

[Blueberry_Squishie]

Bumping the thread because I added my final review.

 

The TLDR

The design of the Garsen Max grip allows you to grip with the hands facing each other (like their marketing suggests). Very helpful for aligning the face at address and being able to make a stroke that starts the ball on line. The colours and graphics aren’t to my liking, but the performance benefits of the unique grip design help my putting. The price and manufacturing quality of the Max grip is comparable with other premium brands like Superstroke, Bettinardi, and P2 so I would recommend trying it out for yourself.

[Subdiver1]

2023 Forum Member Test Garsen Max Putter Grip - Final Review

Introduction

  My name is Scott.  I play primarily out of the Pacific Northwest and Central Florida, but I do quite a bit of traveling and play as much as I can when I do.  

  I learned “soft hands” around the green and a decent putting stroke playing golf in southern New England in the 70s-80s.  Apparently that stroke and feel has diminished over the years.  Had I been smart enough to listen to coaches when I was a kid who knows where my game could have become; I may have even qualified to play for a community college or maybe the Bob’s Big Boy Tour . I’ve been playing primarily in WA State for the last couple of decades and my handicap has ranged from a low of 4 a couple of years back, to currently in the mid-7s.  I’d been gaming a Callaway BJ-1, what I thought would be my forever putter, since around 1988.  But, an equipment upgrade a couple of years ago got me thinking maybe I should “do a little something” with my putter too (yeah I know, don’t fix what ain’t broke right).

  I’ve pretty much always used the same set-up and putting stroke; standard grip, slightly open stance, ball off the front heel, straight back and through; I feel like this set up allows me to come straight back and through the ball best and see the line.  I admit to some bias when I started my putter search, 1. Had to be a blade, and 2. Big grips were more of a gimmick than a potential benefit.  Enter the Evnroll ER2 and of course, a larger grip.  DAMN! There might just be something to this large grip thing (ironically, I have been playing oversize grips on all my clubs for quite a while).

  Prior to this test I had no background with Garsen and other than my former bias against large putter grips I have no bias for or against the company or the product; my interest is in improving my game; As mentioned before, I might be a little competitive.  So, gaining an edge through better equipment is not something I won’t consider.  Wood worked great for Robin Hood and William Tell right!  So do we really need steel and carbon fiber?

First Impressions (9 out of 10)

  This was my first testing opportunity and I initially had no idea what to expect or how to proceed, but I was excited to get going.  Communication from Kyle at Garsen sales was quick, detailed, profession and helpful.  Following my election on color and type everyday around here was a race to the mailbox looking for the package addressed to me.  I felt kind of like Steve Martin waiting for the new phone book (Boy I hope SOMEBODY other than me gets that reference The New Phone Books are Here)

  When the grips finally arrived the Priority Mail envelope kind of threw me.  I expected a box with the Garsen name on it; maybe some flashing lights and sirens when I opened the mailbox.  Opening the package I was…well, I was underwhelmed.  One might think, “Well, that kind of sucks.”  BUT in reality, I was relieved that I didn’t have to tear through 42 layers of packaging and hire a moving truck to dispose of all the excess plastic and cardboard that everything comes in these days.  We have almost become conditioned to expect some grandiose packaging for a product when all it really needs is a package.  A box might have provided some more protection and some panache, but I was glad not to have to battle excess packaging and figure out disposal.

 

  I divided my First Impression into two sub-categories; Packaging and Presentation and Communications.  I gave each group equal weight in this section.  

     P&P:  Each grip was individually wrapped and protected in its own package.  As much as I feel like it is petty to harp on the Priority Mail envelope I keep coming back to my preference to minimize waste, but the need to understand how packaging, aesthetics, impacts perception; like Loois Viton and Chucchi and Dulche Cabana for instance; people buy a piece of $4 cow hide for $1000s because they package that cow hide as something extremely special.  So I needed to dock somebody a HUGE 1 point for all that, but the Garsen’s shipping department gets 4 of 5 for not using excessive packaging, efficiency and effectiveness (round of applause please ).  

     Communications:  Since I consider customer service an important part of a First Impression, or a lasting one, I have to say that the communication from Kyle held quite a bit of weight, for me, in making a positive First Impressions.  Kyle essentially made that 1 point in P&P about as impactful as wet cardboard; 5 of 5 for communications.  

Aesthetics (8 out of 10) 

I chose the Max grip in red and black, the Ultimate in green and the Quad Tour without taper.  I like the color schemes and quality color and finish.  Looking back, if I had the choice, I probably would have chosen to go with all three in red as primary color.  

As noted by several others, the butt cap is a detractor for me as well.  I hope Garsen will eventually decide to do something to make the entire grip at least seem like one piece, more like the end of my OEM grip, rather than this plastic tip that looks like and afterthought.  Minus 2 points for the end cap.

The Fit and Feel (19 out of 20)

   The best I can describe the material and feel of these grips is as falling somewhere between a good tour wrap and a Winn Dri-Tac.  Definitely not as “soft” as a Dri-Tac, but Not too firm and not too soft.  The Max and Ultimate have about the same consistency as my OEM Evnroll grip, which is good.  The Quad seems a little more firm, but not in a bad way.  Each model has a tackiness that gave me confidence it wouldn’t fly out of my hand on one of those days where I really need to let one rip up the hill and past the rotating windmill blades. Texturing can be seen in the phots here.  I really cannot find any fault with any of the designs/texturing.  Interestingly enough I found that the approximately 32,000,000 “G”s on the Ultimate were more inviting than I expected from just looking at the grip.

  The one detractor, for me is that the Max is just under 1-1/2” shorter than my OEM grip so I feel like I am missing some room to adjust how high or low I grip the club.  The Max measures 10-3/16” form the tip of the butt to the shaft insertion point.  My OEM Evnroll grip measures 11-3/8.”  Just over an inch difference doesn’t sound like much, but I find it noticeable.  Garsen does offer a 15” option, but that was not included in our testing so I cannot speak to how that would affect my impression or performance.

  I addressed feel in my hands in one of my first review posts and discussed how the Max felt in this video cut; “I like the way it feels for swing flow, for set up I am still trying to decide.” 

More detail here:  Initial Feel and Fit Review

 

Let’s start talking data!  Garsen provides specs for each grip on the various pages of their web site.  For the Max: 

STANDARD GRIP SPECS:

• Grip diameter: 1.5 Inches
• Weight: 55 Grams
• Core Size: .600
• Firmness: Medium
• Shock Absorption: High
• Material: High-Tech PU
• Feel: Semi-tacky, Smooth Texture 
• Profile: Semi-Tapered

15" GRIP SPECS:

• Grip diameter: 1.5 Inches
• Weight: 85 Grams
• Core Size: .600
• Firmness: Medium
• Shock Absorption: High
• Material: High-Tech PU
• Feel: Semi-tacky, Smooth Texture
• Profile: Semi-Tapered

  Part of me would like to see a length included in the specs; but then I wondered if I may have missed out on something good over an inch. So maybe that isn’t really an issue, but as a purchase it may have made lean toward the 15” version.  Looking at my OEM grip and the Max from the angle in this photo the extra length is not as apparent, but the overall diameter is.  The OEM grip measures 4” circumference and the Max 4-1/2”.  The little bit of extra mass and the texture of the Max worked for me after I got my hands and my head wrapped around it (pun intended).

  Garsen’s website (Max Grip Description) refers to the Max as INNOVATION WITH A TWIST. “By using a square grip with a 45% rotation, the “front” of the grip now becomes an angled area perfectly fitting the players’ grip and creating a much more biomechanically efficient position for the putting stroke.  This simple, yet highly effective, grip innovation is the fastest way to immediately improve your putting.”

  So okay, maybe none of the grips are diamond shaped, but the Quad is a trapezoid and the Max looks a bit like my OEM grip turned 180°.  But, once I got familiar with it the angles and shaping of the Max definitely helped me put my hands and arms in the position I try to consistently put them in for a comfortable stroke.  Garsen also claims the Max grip creates a much more biomechanically efficient position for the putting stroke.  One review I read mentioned that the Quad, “promoted a flat left wrist and square contact.”  This aspect of the Quad may end up fitting my grip and putting style better than the Max will, but the Max was my initial choice and is my focus here.  

I broke Fit & Feel down into the following sub-categories:

Sub-category/Points Given/Possible Points

• Size (overall fit to hand/grip).   4/4
• Comfort (how well my grip style conformed to the grip shape).   4/4
• Weight (impact on club feel & swing flow).    4/4
• Texture    3/3
• Firm/soft (tackiness).   3/3
• Fit on club (length, position, alignment).   1/2
• Total.   19/20

 

On The Course (15 out of 20)

Feel

  My go to putter for the last several years has been an Evnroll ER2 with a stock grip.  I bought a second ER2 for testing. The plan being to start comparing feel between my current Evnroll Gravity Grip and the Garsen MAX; then do some indoor testing on my Birdie Ball mat followed by on course performance both on the practice green and a comparison of past and present performance during play. 

  I almost wonder if an all red, blue or another color scheme may have stood out better against the black Evnroll design and initially drawn more comments.  Or maybe if I had put the Max on the silver/gray model and the OEM grip on the Black ER2.  Too late now, but harkening back to the Priority Mail envelope, lesson learned here. 

  As noted in my initial reviews, I took some time and some adjustment to get the right fit.  Once I got comfortable, I like the way I could return to the same hand position pretty readily without having to make a conscious effort.

  By Shot Scope and an App I use I was averaging 1.8 putts per hole (pph) prior to installing the Max.  Play It criteria was an improvement to 1.6 pph or better and no 3 putts.  However, if the grip itself felt better and promotes consistent hand position, I would still give serious consideration to not Trading It.

Performance

  Rather than boring everyone with a repeat of all the testing data, I’ll provide a short summary in this review.  According to the Swing U app I am down to 1.7 pph last month vs. 1.8 pph last year.  Per Shot Scope my Putts per Round was an atrocious 31.4 putts (1.74 pph); following a ridiculous 35 putt round on Saturday I am at 30.3 ppr (or 1.68 pph).  So, there is improvement.  A summary of putting and comparison from 2022 and the last 15 rounds, rounds played with the Garsen Max is shown in this graphic.  Lots of data to say there were improvements here and there.  

Distance Control – Feel

  This last test was performed prior to that wonderful Saturday round (how does anyone have 34 putts and still win the A-flight?  Wait! Don’t answer that). I attempted 5 putts form 9, 17 and 25 feet (don’t ask. I paced it off then measured after and decided I didn’t have time to adjust). Anyway, results are pretty apparent (inset next to the distance).  I am very happy with distance control here. 

Wear and Tear

  I tried my best to keep the grip in the fairways and prevent any errant shots off cart paths to keep the cover pristine.  After several years of hard work (30+ putts per round is pretty laborious) my OEM Evnroll grip looks pretty used, but after 15 rounds and countless practice sessions the grip seems.to be holding up well.

I broke this group down into several sub-categories as well:

Sub-category/Points Given/Possible Points

• On Course Presence – do people notice it.    1/2
• Feel.    2/3
• Performance.    4/6
• Distance Control.    5/6
• Wear and Tear.   3/3
• Total.    15/20

 

The Good, the Bad, the In-Between (15 out of 20)

The Good

  Communication – Initial communications and responses to questions were outstanding.  If this is any indication, then Garsen will take any feedback we have and translate that to improvements; which means opportunity for players.

  Feel – Feel is one of those subjective things that you can sometimes get used to and sometimes it just doesn’t work.  In this case it works for me.

  Performance - This is where the rubber meets the road folks.  

            Wear and tear - So far, the wear is fine. This translates to that tackiness and texture holding up over many rounds which contributes to performance.  Ever driven a car that feels great when you test drive it then after a month or two you start to notice that power and handling aren’t quite what you remember from the test drive?  Time will tell, but I expect these grips to wear well.  Of course, they are fairly priced and since they are designed to be installed with or without sticky stuff a swap can be as easy as firing up the compressor and blowing rubber all over your workshop (don’t forget your safety glasses folks!).

            Testing and On Course Performance.  Indoor and practice green testing went well.  I won’t say that my distance control is all that much better, but I am confident with this grip and that has contributed to decent control.  I have seen a slight improvement in overall on course performance and am willing to accept that the grip may be contributing to that, but are we in the honeymoon stages or will the relationship flourish or flounder?  I’m looking forward to seeing if the trend continues.

The Bad

  As much as I hate to continue to harp on it, the end cap takes away from the fit and finish of the product.  In production and Quality Control we talk a lot about Fit, Form and Function.  The end cap may not contribute or detract from performance (function), but it takes away from aesthetics which affects form to a degree (translating to perception of quality).  So, I have to mention it.

The In-Between 

  Aesthetics - Aside from the end cap, I think Garsen did a great job with colors and design overall.  Thumbs up here on that aspect of the product.

  Performance – While I have seen a slight improvement in overall on course performance and am willing to accept that the grip may be contributing to that it hasn’t been earthshattering.  I’m looking forward to seeing if the trend continues so I don’t want to detract from the positive aspects of consistent hand placement and feel, but I want to see where things go from here.

 

Play it or Trade it? 16 out of 20)

I am going to continue to play it.  I am also looking forward to doing some comparison testing with the Ultimate and the Quad to see if they do anything for my game.

 

Conclusion

Whether you are a beginner or a long-time scratch player, if you are looking for a change to your putting take a look at what Garsen has to offer.  The product quality is very good, and the price is very reasonable, especially if you are undecided and can take advantage of the 3 for $80 package available for Father’s Day.  Remember that, like any other aspect of this game, the player is the prime mover and, a bad swing or a bad day are not going to be fixed by equipment, no matter how good the equipment is.  That being said, equipment that fits your game and helps you be consistent will definitely help you be consistent; which helps you score better (or at least know what to expect ).
 

Final Score (82 out of 100)

Even my caddy says the Max passes the sniff test. 

 

Hey guys, throw me a bone here, it is my first review.   Seriously, I hope some of my posts and process help someone make a good decision and I hope it helps someone, somewhere with their game.  Keep 'em in the short stuff folks.

Scott
 

 

Edited June 12, 2023 by Subdiver1
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[MIgowfer59]

On 5/2/2023 at 1:40 AM, Caddie1966 said:

My name is Chris.  I go by Caddie1966 on the MGS forum.  As a baseball obsessed 12 year old my exposure to golf was to chase down balls hit OB at a muni by my house and sell them back to the players who hit them out.  In April of 1966, I hitchhiked 15 miles for the first time to and from a private course and started caddying on Saturday and Sunday.  When school ended for summer, I hitched a ride 7 days a week; caddying Tuesday through Sunday, often 36/day and played 36-54 with the other caddies each Monday from 6 a.m. to 8 p.m.  I fell in love with Golf back then and have been infatuated ever since.

Like Danny Noonan from Caddyshack, I focused on earning an Evans Scholarship so I could attend college.  Unlike Danny, I did earn the scholarship to Michigan State where I briefly continued my baseball career.  After my freshman year, pro baseball was not in the cards, so I played ball only in the summer, studied harder and played more golf.

I introduced my wife to Golf shortly after we married in 1974.  49 years later, she still plays and enjoys new courses as we travel the US.  We moved to Texas in 1994 where I taught my daughters to play well enough that they both played on HS teams that qualified for the State Championship.  I am now teaching my youngest Grandson to play.  I play to an index of 8 now as a 70 year old but was as low as 3.7 in my late 40s.  I retired in 2017 and play 3-4 times each week and walk 120+ rounds each year in North Texas.  
 

Putting has always been my Achilles heel. Over the past few years, I have developed the Yips inside 10 feet.  My fault is right hand and right elbow breakdown on short putts.  I have been a conventional grip guy for almost 60 years and have NEVER stroked a putt with anything else.  My average putts per round have increased from 29 or 1.6 to 32.5 putts or 1.8 per hole in the past 3 years.  My birdie count has dropped significantly from over 1.3 per round in 2020 to 1.15 in 2021 to .925 in 2022.  This decline is primarily due to putting inside 10 feet. 3 putts have gone from 5% to 7% in that same stretch.  

My selection to test the Garsen MAX came the same day I had scheduled a switch to a super soft oversize at my proshop. Serendipity?  The only exposure I had to Garsen prior to this test was checking out Tony Finau’s bright green grip with his logo during the Dell WGC this year and learning that Garsen had quite a few wins on the PGA and LPGA tours.  I did not focus on the three grip selections, as I wasn’t considering a grip change until very recently.  
 

I am changing my gamer, an Odyssey EXO7 to the Garsen MAX.  I want to see if my hand and elbow integrity improves with this new grip.   I am going to have the new grip installed with air so I can swap out to the Ultimate and QUAD Tour without cutting the grips off.  I’ve been a stats guy since I collected baseball cards as a kid.  I plan to log my results with the current EXO7 grip and the MAX as follows:

5 rounds each at my home track, pacing off each putt and logging makes, misses, break direction and short, left or right on the misses.  Home putting mat performance from 4 and 8 feet. Putting green testing from 5, 10, 15, 20 and 25 feet, logging the same as I do during the rounds I play. Reducing my average putts from 32 and making more inside 10 feet while improving my hand and arm integrity will assure the Garsen MAX stays in the bag.

Garsen MAX Putter Review

Thank you very much to MGS and to Garsen Golf for the opportunity to review the Garsen MAX putter grip.  This is the first opportunity I have had to review any products through the MGS Forum since I joined in October 2021.  Admittedly, I didn’t finish my profile until mid last year so I feel fortunate to be testing within a few months of completing my profile and becoming qualified to be a tester.  

I was pumped to be chosen for the Garsen MAX putter grip test as I had just decided to switch to an oversized putter grip.  The timing was perfect for me.

One of the tag lines on the Garsen Golf website for the MAX is “The fastest way to make more putts.”  Others include: “Innovation with a twist.” “This simple, yet effective, grip innovation is the fastest way to immediately improve your putting.”

I was intrigued to say the least. 
 

Unboxing: (6 of 10)

After a quick email exchange with Kyle from Garsen Golf to choose colors and arrange delivery, Garsen sent a package of three different putter grips.  The Quad TOUR, The Ultimate and The MAX arrived on May 9th in a simple packing envelope with a nice letter from Bernard Garsen, President, CEO and Founder of Garsen Golf along with two Garsen Putter Grip stickers.  Each grip was wrapped in cellophane and delivered in the colors I requested. 

The Quad Tour comes in Black in either tapered or non-tapered.  I selected the tapered version.  I’m a Michigan State alum so I had to choose Green for The Ultimate.  The Ultimate also comes in Black or Blue.  The Max is available in White, Blue or Red. I chose the Red as it also has Black Chevrons and White lettering.  These are the colors of my two grandsons middle school teams.  My review is focused on The MAX  but I will install each of the others later this month and submit individual reviews of The Quad TOUR and The Ultimate later this summer. 

First Impressions (18 of 20)

The Garsen MAX has alternating Red and Black Chevron style markings that appear to help with hand alignment.  The MAX is standard length and is oversized but not massively so. The most obvious difference on the MAX from other putter grips is it’s RIB which extends top to bottom and bisects the left and right sides of the grip.   I liked the looks  and the initial feel of the MAX but was very curious as to how it would feel on my putter and if the RIB would be helpful or would it hinder my putting grip and putting stroke.  

Aesthetics (10 of 10)

To say the Garsen MAX grip is unique is an understatement.  The RIB grabbed my attention immediately as it extends right down the centerline of the grip.  The White MAX logo is on either side of the RIB just below the very top of the grip.  The Garsen logo is located in the bottom third on the left side of the RIB.  Black and Red Chevrons separate the Red lower section from the Black upper section.  These Chevrons aid in hand placement as I will discuss further.  To quote Billy Crystal,

Installation

I elected to replace the original Odyssey EXO7 pistol grip on my gamer with the Garsen MAX.  The install could not have gone smoother. After removing the old grip and cleaning the shaft up, I used a small amount of mineral spirits and slid the MAX on with no issue until it was halfway on.  At that point, I pushed a bit harder and it was done. Easy please, Lemon Sqeezy.

Feel

Garsen MAX feels tacky but not so tacky that you would cringe like you would if you saw me wearing some of the outfits that Ian Poulter wears.  I’m a light grip pressure putter and the feel of the MAX is about as perfect for me as it gets.  The MAX is solid but not hard, soft yet substantial.  The material is High Tech PUI so it’s like having no slip traction on the grip.  Being a guy who NEVER even practiced with anything other than a pistol grip in 58 years of playing, I initially wondered if the MAX was something I should even try as the grip fit my hands in a much different way than my pistol grip.

RIB

The most unusual element of the MAX technology is the RIB. The RIB extends top to bottom and is visible while gripping the putter. Although it’s noticeable, I was surprised that the RIB was not a distraction, rather I found it to be a guide to hand placement.  
My hands fit on the sides of the RIB and I align my left thumb with the Black Chevron and the pad of my right thumb to the right side of that same Chevron.  The MAX enables me to put a bit of pressure on the grip with my thumbs enabling me to keep my wrists in a more “locked and upright position” to quote every flight attendant I ever flew with.  

Taper

MAX has a slight taper of approximately one quarter inch from top to bottom.  
 

Tale of the Tape

                     Garsen MAX              Odyssey Pistol

Diameter   1.5 inches                  1.0 inch                        
Length       10.25 inches             10 inches                 
Weight       55 grams                   69 grams                
Core Size   .600                           .580

My History

I have struggled through the putting YIPs for the past 2 + years.  I don’t freeze over the putt, my right hand and elbow simply flare out during my through stroke.  This results in putts being pulled wildly left, shoved way right and often stopping woefully short as a my putter face contact is inconsistent.  I also lose my posture during these YIPs and sometimes, even my lower body moves.  I have no idea when this will occur so it’s not something I can wait out or take a few extra practice strokes to alleviate.  The YIPs seemed to occur 2-3 times a round, resulting in 3 and sometimes 4 putt greens.  I would do this on 2-50 foot putts.  It’s a terrible thing.  

I tried left hand low, changing putters, pencil grip, even a long putter.  Nothing worked.  What I had not done was change putter grips. That’s why when the opportunity to review the Garsen MAX came along, I jumped in.  

The Garsen Golf website stases:

“…the MAX  places your hands in a position so the palms are in a neutral position.  It turns your elbows into your body and sets your shoulders back.  This relieves arm and shoulder tension, inhibits wrist action which takes “the hands out of putting” and promotes shoulder rotation creating a solid putting stroke which will give you a one-piece feel, leading to a more consistent stroke.”

I WANT THAT!!!!!!!!
My pistol grip 

My MAX grip

The Numbers and My Testing (20 of 20)

My 2022 GHIN putting stats

My 2023 GHIN putting stats YTD

The YTD putting stats were prior to my testing efforts.

As I began to think of how to evaluate and review a putter grip change, I settled on trying to find comparable tests to evaluate both on and off course. Would I see if the Garsen MAX lived up to the tag line of “The fastest way to make more putts.”? 

My approach was to evaluate on 3 different tests with a large enough sample size to convince myself that the results were real where each test was a fair evaluation and not subject to a halo effect of trying something new and wanting it to be better.

Test 1

Indoor testing was done using my 9 foot putting mat and a perfect putt target consisting of 60 putts from 5 feet and 60 putts from 8 feet for both the Pistol and MAX grips.  I completed 10 each at a time from each distance with a 5 minute break in between to reduce the likelihood of being in a groove. So this test was 120 putts for each grip.

 

My make rate indoors combined from 5 and 8 feet using the pistol grip was 54%.  I made 65 of 120 attempts and missed primarily due to pulled putts going left.  I left 8% short from 8 feet. 

My make rate indoors combined from 5 and 8 feet using the Garsen MAX was 78%.  I made 94 of 120 attempts and  my misses were split equally left and right.  I left 0 of the 120 putts short using the MAX.

These results were quite surprising as I made nearly 30 more putts with the MAX, an increase of 45%.  

Test 2

Outdoor testing was on the putting green at my home course, Denton  Country Club.  I putted early a.m. to assure no disruptions due to other players using the practice green.  I putted 60 putts with each grip installed.  12 putts from distances of 5, 10, 15, 20 and 25 feet for a total of 120 putts.  These putts were as straight as I could find.  All were uphill slightly and the STIMP readings for these days was 10.5.

Test 2 was more challenging as the distances increased and lines varied more than indoors. It was difficult finding straight putts over 15 feet on DCC’s relatively small practice green.

My make rate with the Odyssey grip outdoors was 35% across all distances combined while my make rate with the Garsen Max was 52% for the same distances.
While similar at under 10 feet, my make rate over 10 feet with the MAX was double that of the Odyssey: 21 Vs. 11.  

My short misses with the Odyssey we’re nearly double the MAX short misses: 11 to 7.  I kept the putts more to the high side of the hole with the MAX which positively increased my make rate. 

 

My GHIN numbers for 2022 and 2023 YTD pre MAX testing are summarized as follows:

2022

115 rounds 32.8 ppr 23% 1 putt, 72% 2 putt, 5% 3+  

2023  

45 rounds 32.5 ppr 26% 1 putt, 67% 2 putt, 7% 3+

 

Test 3 (20 of 20) 

On  course testing.  Where the rubber meets the road. Where the chickens come home to roost.  

I played 5 rounds with each grip at my home track and walked off every putt I had during those rounds, no gimmies.  I recorded the distances on the scorecard for every putt so I noted each putt on each hole and total feet of putts per hole.  I also recorded low, high and short.  

So how did I do and more importantly, how did the Garsen MAX do vs. the Odyssey pistol grip?

Odyssey

Round 1      33 putts                                                            
Round 2     34 putts                                                                
Round 3     34 putts                                                                 
Round 4     31 putts                                                                    
Round 5     32 putts                                                                     
Total          164 putts                                                              
Average   32.8 putts                                  

Avg 1 putt: 3.0 2 putt: 12.4. 3 putt 2.6     
Proximity to hole on 1st putt: 14.3 feet.  
Range 1-45 feet    
Pretty much like I have putted for the past 2+ years.

MAX

Round 1       27 putts                                                        
Round 2      29 putts                                                      
Round 3      30 putts                                                       
Round 4      26 putts (lowest 18 hole putt count ever)    
Round 5      33 putts (12 first putts over 22 feet)           
Total          145 putts                                                         
Average      29 putts

Avg 1 putt: 6.8, Avg 2 putt: 7.6 Avg 3 putt: 0.8          
Proximity to hole on 1st putt: 14.9 feet.  
Range 2-65 feet

Results

Garsen MAX out performed the Odyssey pistol grip by a wide margin

1 putts rose from 15 to 34 in 5 rounds                                
3 putts dropped from 13 to 4 in 5 rounds

Strokes Gained Putting                                                                  
In 5 rounds I gained 3.8 strokes putting using the Garsen MAX putter grip.  My total YIPs in 5 rounds with the Odyssey was 9.  I had a single YIP with the MAX in round 1 and none thereafter. Two of my four 3 putts with the MAX came in round 5 where my 1st putts were 42 and 65 feet from the flag.

How do I explain this improvement? My PUTTING grip changed with the PUTTER grip.  The statements on the Garsen Golf website rang true for me:

My hands are on the side of the putter.                                  
My palms face each other.                                                      
My wrists are more neutral.                                                     
My elbows are closer to my body.                                            
My shoulders are back.                                                            
My shoulder rotation is more consistent.                              
My distance control is better.

Simply put, I hit more solid putts.  My putter head sits more level to the ground as the grip changes have me more upright and closer to the ball. I make better contact closer to the sweet-spot.  My misses are closer to the hole.  More putts are getting to the hole and more putts are on the high side.  

The Garsen MAX, specifically the RIB and the oversize technologies completely changed my technique and stroke for the better.  The new technique has resulted in better outcomes.  The better outcomes have led to higher confidence.  
 

The Garsen MAX grip has been shockingly positive for me and has far exceeded any expectations I might have had.

Will the MAX stay in the bag? (20 of 20)

Absolutely yes!  
Let me quote Eric Clapton, my favorite artist of all time:  “It’s in the way that you use it.  Boy don’t you know.  Don’t you ever confuse it. Don’t let it go.”  

The MAX has found a home in my bag and will be tough to remove.  

When I joined MGS I listed my strength as Driving the ball.  I am still a strong driver.  However I don’t believe any driver can improve my game by 3.8 strokes gained.  If I had the MAX in my bag and with these results when I joined MGS I would have proudly claimed putting as my biggest strength.

 

Overall  (94 of 100)

 

 

 

 

 

 

  
 

 

 

 

 

                           

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Go Green!  Go White!  Nice Review!!

Question:  Is your stat spreadsheet Excel or similar?  Or did you use a putting analysis program?

Thanks!!

Steve
 

[Caddie1966]

2 hours ago, MIgowfer59 said:

Go Green!  Go White!  Nice Review!!

Question:  Is your stat spreadsheet Excel or similar?  Or did you use a putting analysis program?

Thanks!!

Steve
 

Thanks Steve, are you a fellow Spartan?

it’s just excel.  I don’t have any special golf software.  I logged putts manually and uploaded the data to excel.  I had to take photos of the spreadsheet as my iMAC would not cooperate and let me export them.My iMAC is 15 yrs old and has to be replaced.  Software won’t update and it just won’t do simple functions or sync with anything anymore.
Where are you in Michigan?  I left in 1994 and have been in TX ever since.  

[MIgowfer59]

51 minutes ago, Caddie1966 said:

Thanks Steve, are you a fellow Spartan?

it’s just excel.  I don’t have any special golf software.  I logged putts manually and uploaded the data to excel.  I had to take photos of the spreadsheet as my iMAC would not cooperate and let me export them.My iMAC is 15 yrs old and has to be replaced.  Software won’t update and it just won’t do simple functions or sync with anything anymore.
Where are you in Michigan?  I left in 1994 and have been in TX ever since.  

Class of 1981 - back home after 40 years of living in CA and that was about 25 years too long.

I live in Adrian, MI - where are you in TX?  

Yes - probably time for a upgrade in Technology!!  The good news is that you can buy an inexpensive laptop or better yet desktop for 1/3 of the price that you paid for the iMac! 

Thanks for the reply!

 

[Caddie1966]

35 minutes ago, MIgowfer59 said:

Class of 1981 - back home after 40 years of living in CA and that was about 25 years too long.

I live in Adrian, MI - where are you in TX?  

Yes - probably time for a upgrade in Technology!!  The good news is that you can buy an inexpensive laptop or better yet desktop for 1/3 of the price that you paid for the iMac! 

Thanks for the reply!

 

Class of 75 so I’m a bit older.  I live in Flower Mound which is north of DFW airport about 10 miles.  The company I retired from was HQ in Marina Del Rey.  I was there about 1/2 the time for my last few years.  
I’m thinking I’m going with a MAC mini either M1 or M2 and a new monitor.  Can still use my keyboard and mouse from my current setup that way.  I think I can get a new rig for less than 1/3rd of what I have into that iMAC.  

I use the iMAC as a music server.  I’ve got to get my HD saved though as I have 450 albums that I did not purchase through iTunes.  With my iTunes purchases, it’s about 600.  I have about 250 of those cds in my possession still.  Would hate to lose any of that collection.  
We are an Apple family though.  Wife has been MACBook since 2008.  My girls went to TCU and were buried in viruses off the campus LAN on windows machines.  We switched them to MACs and no issues thereafter.  
 

What brought you back to Adrian?