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Received my Pro Mental Coach CD this morning - loaded it up and an eager to get started.

 

It looks fascinating, but I am running into one HUGE roadblock. For some reason it stops, quits and updates every 5 to 7 minutes. Then you re-enter and have to start all over again. Right now it's coaching me to go mental. Anyone else having this issue? I'm running it on a Mac. Please chime in. I hope it's just me, because so far I love what it's saying!

 

What's in the bag:
 
Driver:  Sub 70 639D - 9.5; :cleveland-small: Launcher HB Turbo; :mizuno-small: ST 190 
FW Wood: :tour-edge: Tour Edge EXS 220 - 15*; :mizuno-small: ST 180 14*
Hybrids:  PXG 0311 22
Utility Irons: :wilson_staff_small: Staff Model Utilities 18, 21, 24*;  Lynx VT Stinger - 16*
Irons::wilson_staff_small: D7 Forged; :benhogan-small:PTx Pro, :macgregor-small: VIP 1025 V-Foil MB/CB; :wilson_staff_small: Progressives (circa 1993)

Wedges:  :cleveland-small: CBX -2, :benhogan-small:Riviera 52-56-60; :wilson_staff_small: Staff Model
Putter:   :edel-golf-1:  Willamette,  :bettinardi-small: BB8,  :benhogan-small:Baby Ben

Ball: :bridgestone-small: Tour B X (2020); :srixon-small: Z-STAR XV

Stat Tracker/GPS Watch: :ShotScope:


 
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BTW -- Kudos to Scott from Buffalo Marketing. Got back to me via email to help figure out what's going on - and on a Saturday, no less. So I'll have to give customer service a very high mark!

 

What's in the bag:
 
Driver:  Sub 70 639D - 9.5; :cleveland-small: Launcher HB Turbo; :mizuno-small: ST 190 
FW Wood: :tour-edge: Tour Edge EXS 220 - 15*; :mizuno-small: ST 180 14*
Hybrids:  PXG 0311 22
Utility Irons: :wilson_staff_small: Staff Model Utilities 18, 21, 24*;  Lynx VT Stinger - 16*
Irons::wilson_staff_small: D7 Forged; :benhogan-small:PTx Pro, :macgregor-small: VIP 1025 V-Foil MB/CB; :wilson_staff_small: Progressives (circa 1993)

Wedges:  :cleveland-small: CBX -2, :benhogan-small:Riviera 52-56-60; :wilson_staff_small: Staff Model
Putter:   :edel-golf-1:  Willamette,  :bettinardi-small: BB8,  :benhogan-small:Baby Ben

Ball: :bridgestone-small: Tour B X (2020); :srixon-small: Z-STAR XV

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barbajo, can you post Scott's email? I'm having the same problem of updates while I'm going through the assessment. I've tried twice now and so far so good, but updating should be something done at startup, not while the program is running...

 

edit: I'm also running on a Mac.

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The guys from Buffalo Communications have come through! Had a fix for the computer glitch e-mailed to me this morning! Very high marks for customer service. Have started getting into the program - it's pretty intense. Will have a write up on the introduction/assessment section later today - but preliminary reviews are pretty positive!~

 

What's in the bag:
 
Driver:  Sub 70 639D - 9.5; :cleveland-small: Launcher HB Turbo; :mizuno-small: ST 190 
FW Wood: :tour-edge: Tour Edge EXS 220 - 15*; :mizuno-small: ST 180 14*
Hybrids:  PXG 0311 22
Utility Irons: :wilson_staff_small: Staff Model Utilities 18, 21, 24*;  Lynx VT Stinger - 16*
Irons::wilson_staff_small: D7 Forged; :benhogan-small:PTx Pro, :macgregor-small: VIP 1025 V-Foil MB/CB; :wilson_staff_small: Progressives (circa 1993)

Wedges:  :cleveland-small: CBX -2, :benhogan-small:Riviera 52-56-60; :wilson_staff_small: Staff Model
Putter:   :edel-golf-1:  Willamette,  :bettinardi-small: BB8,  :benhogan-small:Baby Ben

Ball: :bridgestone-small: Tour B X (2020); :srixon-small: Z-STAR XV

Stat Tracker/GPS Watch: :ShotScope:


 
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The guys from Buffalo Communications have come through! Had a fix for the computer glitch e-mailed to me this morning! Very high marks for customer service. Have started getting into the program - it's pretty intense. Will have a write up on the introduction/assessment section later today - but preliminary reviews are pretty positive!~

 

They are very fast about answering concerns, so definitely a plus. I had told them I'm getting a new computer soon and they proactively set up my CD key so I can install it on another machine.

 

I'm not sure if this is just a Mac issue, but here are the steps to fix it from the guys at Buffalo Communications:

 

  1. Uninstall the ProMentalCoach program in your Applications folder (to uninstall, just delete it)
  2. Delete the Pro Mental Coach files:
    • /Library/ProMentalCoach
    • /Users//Library/Preferences/ProMentalCoach (substitute with your account login name)

[*]Please click on the following link to reinstall Pro Mental Coach program: http://promentalcoach.com/golf/downloads/ProMentalCoach.pkg.zip

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I went through the assessment tonight. During the assessment you are asked several questions about your most recent game. You also play a variation of a game where you have to click anything a letter appears in the middle of a white ball. Numbers may appear in the middle and there are other images that appear on screen. Personally, I clicked on a couple of numbers by accident, but I hardly noticed the other "distractions". In the end, I was given this for my results. I guess I'm average for my 30 year old age group:

 

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Exercise 1:

 

After the assessment, you are given 4 exercises, all of which are set at beginner level. The first one was on staying positive. This is done by having to click on happy faces or positive words and ignoring negative words and unhappy faces. I'm writing this right after doing this particular exercise. Some of these faces are really ambiguous as to whether or not they are happy or not, I got a few wrong both ways. Also, you need a mouse, I did it with the trackpad on my laptop and it's hard to be fast enough when the screen flashes red and you need to click on faces/words faster. At the end, I was given another score of par, apparently I fit very well in my age group!

 

Exercise 2:

 

This exercise is meant to help with your preshot routine and your breathing. You are given a series of pictures and asked to piece together your preshot routine, then asked to time your breathing by hitting the space bar each time you exhale. My initial impression was the images were not obvious as to what they meant and could have used some text to help explain each image. Really the point is to practice your breathing, so the routine you pick really doesn't matter towards your "score", though I assume picking a similar routine to your actual routine helps translate the exercise to the course. I got a birdie score on this one, woohoo!

 

Exercise 3:

 

The next exercise was much more difficult for me. You are given a picture of a bucket of balls in either red or green at the bottom of the screen. At the top portion, one to six buckets of balls appear. Here's the tricky part. If the bottom bucket is green, you need to left click if you see a match and hit space if you don't. If the bucket is red, you do the opposite. I apparently suck at this and got a bogey score.

 

Lol. I was playing near midnight. When I went past midnight, the exercises set to the next day, so now I have five new exercises to complete, and I'm too sleepy to go through that.

 

All in all I'm intrigued. They do a very good job of making it obvious how their exercises translate to the game and do a good job in the assessment going over all the aspects of the mental game they do and don't cover. I'm going to keep sticking with it throughout the season. I think I agreed to do an update two weeks after I start, so I'll definitely do that.

 

This is not sold or intended as a quick fix for anything. They even say you'll have to work hard at the mental practice. I'll see how things go and report back periodically.

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I think this is where the program gets interesting. After my initial assessment, my program was a little different that yours WD, so it appears to customize itself to the actual results of each person's assessment. Which is kinda cool.

 

And the program is addictive. You get started and the next thing you know, an hour or two has gone by. It's also definitely a long term commitment - the program goal is to train your brain so it can minimize distractions, remain positive despite bad shots and to "stay in the moment." We're talking a long term process.

 

Some thoughts on the Assessment process:

 

1. You go through a long introduction -- requires reading several pages of text with CBS-Masters type music in the background. It goes into great detail about the mental game, what it is and what it means.

 

2. Part of the assessment includes questions on Perceived Cognition - asks about your last round - your thought process, overcoming bad shots, dealing with distractions, how you felt about playing with partners, could you control your stress, could you plan and visualize shots, etc. Answer on a scale of 1-7, ranging from "Not at all" to "that's me!"

 

3. Defining the Mental Game: being able to use your full capacities at the right time without deviation or being distracted -- it's about being "in the zone."

 

4. Mental game has 3 components:

- Motivation & confidence

- Stress management

- Optimal cognitive functioning

 

5. Optimal cognitive functioning has 3 components

- Concentration

- Inhibition (keeping out bad thoughts, distractions)

- Mental endurance

 

6. Two memorable quotes:

- "Enjoy the moment each time you drive, swing or putt"

- "Don't think about your swing - just do it. It sounds easy - it's not."

 

7. Ultimately, the programs wants to train your brain to do the following:

- Improve your capacity to get "in the zone"

- Improve your ability to get in and out of the zone

- Allow you to achieve a high level of mental endurance

 

I have lots more notes to go decipher and post, but as reported earlier - this is a long term process. Played one round since working through the initial portions of the program and I did notice many of the "lessons" kept going through my head.

 

Tried very hard to stay in the moment and enjoy each shot and to not get ahead of myself. I usually tally overall scores in my head while walking to the next tee and thing to myself "if I par these last two holes I'll be score 39 for the front nine" or something like that. Caught myself doing that a couple of times and immediately stopped.

 

Also didn't let bad shots get me discouraged -- well, not as much as before, anyway. On one hole I croaked a drive but left my wedge approach WAY short of the hole. Instead of getting pissed, I just made sure to get the lag close and tap in for par. Even a couple of 3 putts didn't get me too down. :rolleyes:

 

Will have more to report as I go through the "lessons." Really interesting stuff!

 

What's in the bag:
 
Driver:  Sub 70 639D - 9.5; :cleveland-small: Launcher HB Turbo; :mizuno-small: ST 190 
FW Wood: :tour-edge: Tour Edge EXS 220 - 15*; :mizuno-small: ST 180 14*
Hybrids:  PXG 0311 22
Utility Irons: :wilson_staff_small: Staff Model Utilities 18, 21, 24*;  Lynx VT Stinger - 16*
Irons::wilson_staff_small: D7 Forged; :benhogan-small:PTx Pro, :macgregor-small: VIP 1025 V-Foil MB/CB; :wilson_staff_small: Progressives (circa 1993)

Wedges:  :cleveland-small: CBX -2, :benhogan-small:Riviera 52-56-60; :wilson_staff_small: Staff Model
Putter:   :edel-golf-1:  Willamette,  :bettinardi-small: BB8,  :benhogan-small:Baby Ben

Ball: :bridgestone-small: Tour B X (2020); :srixon-small: Z-STAR XV

Stat Tracker/GPS Watch: :ShotScope:


 
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Good opening salvo's guys. I'm still waiting on mine but Canada post has been gawd awful recently. I imagine they're using it right now in their sorting room while mocking me.

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I have a question for you... I have done the initial scoring process after registering for free on their website, I have an opinion on the games that they have you play with the golf ball and things flashing and you most click under given conditions. I am curious if you felt this was a good assessment process to mental game?

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I have a question for you... I have done the initial scoring process after registering for free on their website, I have an opinion on the games that they have you play with the golf ball and things flashing and you most click under given conditions. I am curious if you felt this was a good assessment process to mental game?

 

Good question -- my sense is that it's supposed to assess your ability to block out distractions while swinging, and focus on the task at hand -- what they refer to as Optimal Cognitive Functioning. That particular test is pretty challenging --- really had to concentrate on not letting the flashing items slow down response when a letter appeared inside the golf ball, or in differentiating between a letter and a number. Seems to be a fairly decent test of what the program describes as the three main elements of Cognitive functioning...

 

Concentration -- yep -gotta focus like crazy on that little white golf ball and what pops up inside of it.

 

Inhibition - keeping out bad thoughts and distractions -- the stuff flashing can be a distraction, and it's hard not to say "s**t" when you mess up. Can't dwell on what just happened, gotta be ready what's next.

 

Mental Endurance -- thought to myself on several occasions - "when is this damn test gonna end?" It takes some work to stay focused for the entire length of the test.

 

For those out there who haven't seen the program -- one of the assessment tools they use to measure your mental game starting point is a cognitive test. You have to focus on a golf ball in the center of the screen. When a letter flashes inside the golf ball, you press the space bar or left mouse button. If a number flashes in the ball, you don't. They also flash other items on the screen, outside of the ball, to distract you. The test measures how quickly you press after seeing the letter, and whether you clicked when a number came up - which is a no-no. It seems to test your ability to react, focus for a lengthy period of time, cope with messing up, staying in the moment and filtering out distractions.

 

I like how they change up the pace -- sometimes the distraction flashes pop up by themselves, sometimes they coincide with a letter flashing in the ball, sometimes a little before, sometimes a little after. They also give you a few seconds every once in a while with nothing flashing at all, and then the barrage starts all over again.

 

Many of the other exercises throw in distractions while you're concentrating, as well. You hear gusts of wind, shouts of "birdie," the occasional leaf blower, etc. Various animations will also blow across the screen, just to mess with you.

 

What's in the bag:
 
Driver:  Sub 70 639D - 9.5; :cleveland-small: Launcher HB Turbo; :mizuno-small: ST 190 
FW Wood: :tour-edge: Tour Edge EXS 220 - 15*; :mizuno-small: ST 180 14*
Hybrids:  PXG 0311 22
Utility Irons: :wilson_staff_small: Staff Model Utilities 18, 21, 24*;  Lynx VT Stinger - 16*
Irons::wilson_staff_small: D7 Forged; :benhogan-small:PTx Pro, :macgregor-small: VIP 1025 V-Foil MB/CB; :wilson_staff_small: Progressives (circa 1993)

Wedges:  :cleveland-small: CBX -2, :benhogan-small:Riviera 52-56-60; :wilson_staff_small: Staff Model
Putter:   :edel-golf-1:  Willamette,  :bettinardi-small: BB8,  :benhogan-small:Baby Ben

Ball: :bridgestone-small: Tour B X (2020); :srixon-small: Z-STAR XV

Stat Tracker/GPS Watch: :ShotScope:


 
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+1 to everything barbajo said. I haven't had a chance to play a round since starting, but I will say when I was at the range the other day I looked down at the ball and my thought was to visualize the numbers/letters game from the assessment test. This did a fantastic job of getting all other thoughts out of my head.

 

As they say during the assessment, you mind is made to handle many thoughts unconsciously, but when you actually think about it consciously, it turns off this "automatic" unconscious part of the brain. It's important to let that automatic part handle your swing. This is what they refer to as being "in the zone".

 

It's also important to be able to switch between these states of mind. When you're ready to hit the ball, you want to be focused, but in between you shouldn't keep that intense focus because it's too tiring on your brain. So the ball game is part of that, you are forced to focus intensely for a while, but then you switch to reading and answering questions. During the assessment, you do this switch three times.

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Great explanation, My only thing is that I don't understand the scoring, I think the result might come out lower then they should and here is why.

 

Everyone has different reaction times, have a friend hold a yard stick vertically cup your hand around it without grabbing it, have them randomly drop the stick and you need to grab it. everyone will get a different amount of measurement in inches that the yard stick dropped. How does that relate to the game you might be asking yourself.

 

Well the game is based on flashing objects inside of a golf ball and you are supposed to click only when a letter appears as fast as possible. Assume a letter appears and right as you click it vanished and an object outside of the ball appeared, I think the system will score that is a miss.

 

When I took it my focus was on point on the golf ball but my clicking was supper fast and I noticed i had a couple misses do to the above reason. I started to adjust to speed up my clicking and just started clicking at anything that popped up in the ball before i processed the letter or number, again I got a lot of misses from this adjustment.

 

I wasn't sure you take on the scoring of this process and if you thought it was a good way to score for the system.

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My take on the scoring process is it doesn't matter as much as doing the exercises. There are 18 total and I wouldn't be surprised if everyone has to do all 18. The game states they always adjust based on your performance, so we'll probably see some exercises more often than others.

 

The score is purely for providing a sense of achievement. The past few games I've played I scored a condor (-4). I'm guessing I'll be slapped with a harder version next time they come up.

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My take on the scoring process is it doesn't matter as much as doing the exercises. There are 18 total and I wouldn't be surprised if everyone has to do all 18. The game states they always adjust based on your performance, so we'll probably see some exercises more often than others.

 

The score is purely for providing a sense of achievement. The past few games I've played I scored a condor (-4). I'm guessing I'll be slapped with a harder version next time they come up.

 

Ditto! Don't think the score matters, just the progression of the scores and the sense of achievement.

 

Condor! That's pretty sweet -- they should be able to let you print out a certificate or something!

 

What's in the bag:
 
Driver:  Sub 70 639D - 9.5; :cleveland-small: Launcher HB Turbo; :mizuno-small: ST 190 
FW Wood: :tour-edge: Tour Edge EXS 220 - 15*; :mizuno-small: ST 180 14*
Hybrids:  PXG 0311 22
Utility Irons: :wilson_staff_small: Staff Model Utilities 18, 21, 24*;  Lynx VT Stinger - 16*
Irons::wilson_staff_small: D7 Forged; :benhogan-small:PTx Pro, :macgregor-small: VIP 1025 V-Foil MB/CB; :wilson_staff_small: Progressives (circa 1993)

Wedges:  :cleveland-small: CBX -2, :benhogan-small:Riviera 52-56-60; :wilson_staff_small: Staff Model
Putter:   :edel-golf-1:  Willamette,  :bettinardi-small: BB8,  :benhogan-small:Baby Ben

Ball: :bridgestone-small: Tour B X (2020); :srixon-small: Z-STAR XV

Stat Tracker/GPS Watch: :ShotScope:


 
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Ditto! Don't think the score matters, just the progression of the scores and the sense of achievement.

 

Condor! That's pretty sweet -- they should be able to let you print out a certificate or something!

 

When I was younger, I had a version of Madden for super nintendo where you could train your players to get better. One of these was a memorization test and I got pretty good at it. So I guess I've had prior practice to the scoreboard memory game in Pro Mental Coach :). The other game was the breathing one, which is all about timing your breaths and didn't strike me as very hard. I will say I'm going to focus more on breathing when I play this weekend though.

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Well my only point was I think that from the sounds of it they are going to customize the software based on your initial scores and give 'drills' to help with the low score weak areas. I'm a software developer it's pretty easy to draw that conclusion from what I have read lol. So it might mistakenly score you lower and focus on something that is truly not your weak point for the mental game. I was kinda wondering how accurate the system was in basing the experience for drills and things to focus on when the scoring system could be thrown off.

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I have a question for you... I have done the initial scoring process after registering for free on their website, I have an opinion on the games that they have you play with the golf ball and things flashing and you most click under given conditions. I am curious if you felt this was a good assessment process to mental game?

 

I'll have a more in depth write up for the intro testing tonight but my initial impression of this to measure your mental game is that it's odd. I honestly though I was switching between a year 1 University text book and then playing the first person shooter game in the breaks (Like many 1st years do anyways :lol:). I found it an entirely odd assessment but I can also see how the developers would say it fits into the 5 key area's they want to work on.

 

I took a bunch of screen shots which I will put up tonight as well.

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Well my only point was I think that from the sounds of it they are going to customize the software based on your initial scores and give 'drills' to help with the low score weak areas. I'm a software developer it's pretty easy to draw that conclusion from what I have read lol. So it might mistakenly score you lower and focus on something that is truly not your weak point for the mental game. I was kinda wondering how accurate the system was in basing the experience for drills and things to focus on when the scoring system could be thrown off.

 

Replying to this at this point is not really possible for us without a professional psychiatrist looking over our results and telling us if they agree. However, because the game does adjust itself based on your performance over time, I'm not really worried about it. Like going to the gym, you can expect when you start for it to be easy. I believe you can retake the assessment later on too, but we'll see how the program evolves over time.

 

I have no idea what sort of QA they had to measure the final results of the assessment and if they can be thrown off. I only got the impression reaction time mattered for the last of the three ball games. I'd also expect they take a baseline of click reaction time and factor that into the final score.

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Replying to this at this point is not really possible for us without a professional psychiatrist looking over our results and telling us if they agree. However, because the game does adjust itself based on your performance over time, I'm not really worried about it. Like going to the gym, you can expect when you start for it to be easy. I believe you can retake the assessment later on too, but we'll see how the program evolves over time.

 

I have no idea what sort of QA they had to measure the final results of the assessment and if they can be thrown off. I only got the impression reaction time mattered for the last of the three ball games. I'd also expect they take a baseline of click reaction time and factor that into the final score.

 

LOL, great answer... I guess the initial results mean nothing other then more work and practice for you when it miss scores you lower... more practice is not a bad thing, thanks for the info.

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Sub-70 639 Combo (5-P) w/ Nippon Modus 3 125 Stiff, Standard Length, Weak Lofts (27-47, 4* gaps)

Callaway MD5 Raw 51-11 S-Grind w/ Nippon Modus 125 Wedge

Callaway MD5 Raw 55-13 X-Grind w/ Nippon Modus 125 Wedge

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