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it is okay I just got confused for a minute.

 

Back to PMC, does the software do anything in putting together a pre-shot routine from a mental stand point (I talked about it in a different topic I think under University Mental Game section.)

 

The software doesn't coach you in any way on how to approach your game. It's geared towards helping you handle pressure, get into and out of "the zone", not get bothered by distractions or past results. In other words, it tries to instill good habits into your routines rather than tell you what your routine should be.

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The software doesn't coach you in any way on how to approach your game. It's geared towards helping you handle pressure, get into and out of "the zone", not get bothered by distractions or past results. In other words, it tries to instill good habits into your routines rather than tell you what your routine should be.

 

good explanation WD, I like it when something is more targeting a skill set to work into your current game. If people don't have a pre-shot routine I sure can suggest one lol.

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good explanation WD, I like it when something is more targeting a skill set to work into your current game. If people don't have a pre-shot routine I sure can suggest one lol.

 

The closest they get to that is the drill where they ask you to depict your preshot routine and then insert the breathing spots into it. If it's something you haven't thought of before, it will certainly get you doing so while making it.

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I went to a new course, which as usual I had planned out and as usual my planning hardly helped once hills factored in. The first few holes were a tease and I pared them, hitting my driver with a nice draw for about 250 yards. The fourth hole was a blind shot which I hate, and that was when the snowball effect kicked in. I knew I should have hit an easy 3H, but instead I tried to crush my 3H and tripled the hole. Literally the next 5 holes were all blind shots, so I stopped keeping score :). I didn't get back into my groove until the last 5 holes (14 hole course), partly because I didn't care about my score anymore, but also partly because my son sank a 20 ft putt, which was just awesome.

 

Moral of the story, I'm still having a lot of trouble translating the PMC training to the course, but then again I'm fighting years of dealing with my frustration one way vs weeks of doing what PMC suggests. I also have zero confidence in my putter right now and am dying to get my new one, hopefully this week...

 

I will also say that some of the PMC games aren't fun anymore and are just stressful. One game in particular has you memorize 4-6 scores in the 60s, 70s, or 80s and repeat it back in order or reverse order, sometimes throwing in a delay between when they say the score and when you have to repeat it. I frankly just don't see how this helps my golf game. I do still like the breathing games though, these are the ones I try to use on the course, so far unsuccessfully, but I think it'll get better over time.

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WD & ST, bottom line, at this point in your experience with PMC, would you say that it has benefitted you & if so, how?....

 

What were your goals/objectives going into this review?....

 

Fairways & Greens 4ever.....

 

Right now, no, but I'm only partly through the program. When it's time to do a new assessment I'll report back with what I think. My current approach is to take this like exercise though, so I'm not too concerned that I don't have game changing results yet. As I said, I've spent years dealing with frustration one way. PMC offers a more mindful approach to deal with frustration, so I just need to keep trying it.

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I was recently diagnosed with a condition which my doctor thought could be cancer. It ended up not being that, but my whole life and any future experiences I had hoped to have flashed before my eyes. April and part of May was a tough time.

 

Going through something like that and getting a reprieve makes you think about things differently. Nothing upsets me or causes "fear" on the golf course anymore and if I start to feel that way, perspective kicks in and quickly squelches it. Golf has become much more enjoyable as a result and my playing partners have commented on how "level headed" I am in the face of adversity. If they only knew.

 

I wouldn't recommend my path to enlightenment but thought I would share in the event that it would set off a light bulb for some people.

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I only took the assessment test for Pro Mental Coach but the strangest think has happened. The scores it gives you said that I was 90 percent on stress management, but of course I already knew that. Also, I was pretty good at getting over the previous shot. Unless it is the 14th putt in a row that I have missed but that is another thread. I have always been the type that fuctions better under stress. I do not remember all the stuff but I am or should say was very easily distracted. The slightest sound, or bug, or movement or especially a good looking beer car girl (still distracted by that one.:P ) But after reading the scores of the PMC it identified my weakest area. I have focused on that and have really concentrated better and played better.

 

Of course, new clubs, better swing, and consistant preshot routine helped a lot, but I am not as distracted on the green as I was. I still could not putt, but at least it was not because I was distracted.

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I was recently diagnosed with a condition which my doctor thought could be cancer. It ended up not being that, but my whole life and any future experiences I had hoped to have flashed before my eyes. April and part of May was a tough time.

 

Going through something like that and getting a reprieve makes you think about things differently. Nothing upsets me or causes "fear" on the golf course anymore and if I start to feel that way, perspective kicks in and quickly squelches it. Golf has become much more enjoyable as a result and my playing partners have commented on how "level headed" I am in the face of adversity. If they only knew.

 

I wouldn't recommend my path to enlightenment but thought I would share in the event that it would set off a light bulb for some people.

 

Glad for your repreive.

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WD & ST, bottom line, at this point in your experience with PMC, would you say that it has benefitted you & if so, how?....

 

What were your goals/objectives going into this review?....

 

Fairways & Greens 4ever.....

 

R.P.

 

My objectives were three fold

A: Try and give the MGS'ers as much useable information as made sense. I have a tendency to blather on and on about tiny details that no one cares about. Rather then touching on every small aspect, I wanted to paint a broader picture so people could ask detail orinented questions about certain things if they wished.

 

B: As someone who's played other sports at a high level I've long been subjected to different types of sports psycology. At least for me personal information, I wanted to see the techniques that PMC wanted to use and how that would translate into the games they have you do.

I have some notes at home about how each of the games I do relates to different psyc principles and my thoughts on the goal of each game and how it releates to mental acuity and then to the applied aspect of golf. I figured that falls into the too much detail though heh.

 

C: To see if I will notice any demonstrable difference on the course and how I can qualify what, at first glance appears to be an unquantifyable alteration, at then boil it down to a yes/no for a positive change.

 

Realisticlly, I tried to be entirely open minded but I did have a touch of skepticism thrown in. Something not reserved to PMC or software by the way. It's my stance on all golf gizmo's, even some ones that others seem to like quite a bit.

 

What I'm seeing so far is that as I don't let errant shots bother me as much, I'm having a more enjoyable time out there for the most part. Shanking 4 drives in a row is still deeply frustrating and will always be so but that shot that starts beautifully before rolling into the trees or such is less round destroying then it use to be.

Is this having a demonstrative effect on my scores? For me it is. I need to quantify that by saying that my tee game costs me more shots then anything else. I'm a great iron player, good wedge player, decent putter but until the past couple of months sticking a driver in my hands was just asking for it.

Between settling down that swing a fair bit and not letting iffy results that are still playable bother me as much, I've seen some scoring dropping. Mostly on the key second shot whether it's just looking for a punch out or a decent placement somewhere then trying to play "catch up" and go for the glory shot.

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Great post RP, I have to agree with the statements that meditation and visualization are not exclusive. Meditation can really clear the mind of negative thoughts, once the mind is clear of all negative thoughts then one can start visualization of positive outcomes. I think golf has to do a lot with always finding the positive stuff about the situation even if the result was poor. For example you can't think the word don't when painting the picture of a result. Example "don't go into the bunker" before a shot, 99% of time if you hit it in the bunker it was a great shot. You painted the picture of it going in the bunker the brain will not process negative statements it process the last part of the statement as a positive.

 

I practice "being present" on the course as much as possible. This just means clearing my mind of everything about golf in-between shots. I listen to birds chirping, the wind blowing through trees, the warm sun on my skin, anything that is relaxing and positive. When I get to my shot I have a clear mind don't even recall how I got to that position. I can pick a positive target and paint the picture to make an aggressive swing to that target. "being present" is a different form of meditation but the over all goal is the same of tossing out the negative and the irrelevant thoughts the "garbage" so to speak.

 

The more you can keep your mind free of negative thoughts and distractions that happen in a round the better end result you will have, that is just kind of my take on things. That is why I have been asking some of the questions that I have in regards to PMC to help myself and maybe others get a more clear picture of what PMC does to improve mind set not only for golf but in life really.

 

If you all want to compare it to something I have found GolfPsych to be a good resource and they have a free mini assessment quiz.

--> http://www.golfpsych.com/blog/

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I was recently diagnosed with a condition which my doctor thought could be cancer. It ended up not being that, but my whole life and any future experiences I had hoped to have flashed before my eyes. April and part of May was a tough time.

 

Going through something like that and getting a reprieve makes you think about things differently. Nothing upsets me or causes "fear" on the golf course anymore and if I start to feel that way, perspective kicks in and quickly squelches it. Golf has become much more enjoyable as a result and my playing partners have commented on how "level headed" I am in the face of adversity. If they only knew.

 

I wouldn't recommend my path to enlightenment but thought I would share in the event that it would set off a light bulb for some people.

 

Ditto what RoverRick said -- a speaker I heard once said any trouble in life that doesn't involve the health and safety of yourself or a loved one can be summed up in one word -- inconvenient. That may oversimplify life a bit, but it's sure something to remember!

 

My experience so far with PMC has been mostly a calming affect - trying to stay in the moment and building some mental endurance to keep focus through 18 holes. It was tested a bit last week in Virginia -- played badly but was still able to (mostly) keep focus and enjoy the game and experience. And was still able to hit good shots on the last hole, even though the round was already shot to hell.

 

For me the exercises have been mostly about blocking out distractions and trying to do simple tasks without thinking -- just speeding up reaction time while maintaining focus for long periods of time. Has it translated to performance on the course? Well, I'm having more fun, if that counts. I've also had my best round of the year since starting the program (and some stinkers, too), and I can' remember the last time I came home from the course angry or frustrated.

 

To sum up the three things I've taken from the program so far...

 

Focus on the next shot, not the last one...

 

Develop mental endurance to keep focus up through 18 holes, no matter what the results...

 

Block out distractions, focus on hitting the ball...

 

There's nothing in the program that's instructing me to do this -- other than the introduction which analyzed what they mean by "the mental game." I can see how some of the exercises have helped...

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So now that's it's been a bit longer, are you guys seeing anymore changes? I find at this point perhaps my breathing spots have changed during my setup and I'm still rolling with shrugging off blah results more easily but I haven't noticed anything else. Not to sneeze on either of those, because they're both having a nice effect both on my score and the enjoyment of the rounds, I'm just not sure if I expected something else over the longer term or not.

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I'm still where I was before, the breathing games help, but I'm not enjoying the other games. I am due for my assessment test though, I just haven't had a chance to do it. I've found I still can get frustrated on the course and the breathing techniques help with that. As for the mental agility games, I still don't get how they help, when do you need to think quickly on a golf course?

 

It's really hard to tell if I'm getting less frustrated on the course because of PMC or because I'm playing better. Or perhaps I'm playing better because of PMC? I can't really tell... :blink:

 

I should add that after spending 8-12 hours programing or in meetings a day, my mind has been pretty worn out, so that may be affecting my review of PMC.

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Updating this thread --

 

Haven't been too diligent on my mental "training" of late...but a couple of months later I can draw a few conclusions:

 

1. Am much better at "staying in the moment" and relaxing on the course. Not sure which helped more, the exercises or simply reading about the importance of staying in the moment...

 

2. Finding it much easier to let go of a bad hole and focus on the next shot. Triple-bogied a par 3 last weekend ( no penalty strokes - just a series of awful shots), but followed it up with a monster drive, and 9 iron to 10 feet, lipped out the birdie putt and tapped in for par. Parred the final two holes, as well.

 

3. Related note - much better at staying mentally focused towards the end of the round -- not letting it all fall apart or getting physically or mentally tired.

 

 

Will try to get back into the "training" mode this week...

 

 

Other testers -- how are you doing with the program?

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Updating this thread --

 

Haven't been too diligent on my mental "training" of late...but a couple of months later I can draw a few conclusions:

 

1. Am much better at "staying in the moment" and relaxing on the course. Not sure which helped more, the exercises or simply reading about the importance of staying in the moment...

 

2. Finding it much easier to let go of a bad hole and focus on the next shot. Triple-bogied a par 3 last weekend ( no penalty strokes - just a series of awful shots), but followed it up with a monster drive, and 9 iron to 10 feet, lipped out the birdie putt and tapped in for par. Parred the final two holes, as well.

 

3. Related note - much better at staying mentally focused towards the end of the round -- not letting it all fall apart or getting physically or mentally tired.

 

 

Will try to get back into the "training" mode this week...

 

 

Other testers -- how are you doing with the program?

 

I've laid off PMC for a while because I find it painfully boring TBH. From my experience it's made me more aware of how to let go of a bad hole, or worse, two back-to-back bad holes using breathing techniques/meditation. However, I still don't get how most of the games are supposed to help me stay positive or mentally aware. Being able to repeat numbers in backwards order or click on happy faces is great, but how does that help my game? I've sent this feedback to PMC and they thanked me for my response, but I haven't heard yet whether they really consider it an issue. It may be just me :D.

 

I had a blow up day on the course yesterday where my swing was totally shot, but I can still enjoy being out and just working to improve my swing, short game, and putting. What's harder and something PMC doesn't address is dealing with a playing partner who is cranky and probably needs more sleep :D. Funny how an 8 year old isn't happy with a long drive straight down the middle because mine landed past his or yells at the ball for not listening to him after a bad putt :lol: (in general he's very good, but we all have bad days).

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For me mental game comes into a state of mind that allows me to be calm and collected. It allows me to play each shot for the situation, not think about he past, not thinking about shots that have not been played yet. Completely focused on that one shot for 60 to 90 seconds. Then I just go back to enjoying being outside enjoying the elements and sounds that are around me in nature. I pretty much try to completely zone out what my opponents are doing and just play my game.

 

It might sound rude but I am not talkative on the golf course, I keep to myself majority of the time. I deal with annoying playing partners by zoning them out completely or as much as possible, just getting my mind into a cocoon like state. I am not a person that recall likes to verbalize my thoughts about a shut, sure they might think them as the ball is in the air but once it is done and at rest, that is the result and I move on to the next shot.

 

I really am like you i don't see how repeating numbers backwards helps a mental approach to golf other then possibly having more focus on the task at hand more to get it correct. Clicking on happy faces I am assuming you are talking about the golf ball drills they do, again that is a focus thing to help you focus on the detailed task that needs to be accomplished I think.

 

Getting extremely detailed with the shot you want to play helps draw an exact mental picture and focus on the exact task at hand, so maybe that is what they were after in the drills that they created?

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Getting extremely detailed with the shot you want to play helps draw an exact mental picture and focus on the exact task at hand, so maybe that is what they were after in the drills that they created?

 

They have one game for putting together your preshot routine, but the focus is on breathing and the pictures they give you to create the routine are pretty vague. For the other games, they have nothing to do with mentally focusing on a task in a linear fashion and then eliminating all swing thoughts from your head. I would love if they could come up with something like this, but for the life of me I can't imagine how to do that on a computer.

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Updating this thread --

 

Haven't been too diligent on my mental "training" of late...but a couple of months later I can draw a few conclusions:

 

1. Am much better at "staying in the moment" and relaxing on the course. Not sure which helped more, the exercises or simply reading about the importance of staying in the moment...

 

2. Finding it much easier to let go of a bad hole and focus on the next shot. Triple-bogied a par 3 last weekend ( no penalty strokes - just a series of awful shots), but followed it up with a monster drive, and 9 iron to 10 feet, lipped out the birdie putt and tapped in for par. Parred the final two holes, as well.

 

3. Related note - much better at staying mentally focused towards the end of the round -- not letting it all fall apart or getting physically or mentally tired.

 

 

Will try to get back into the "training" mode this week...

 

 

Other testers -- how are you doing with the program?

 

I fully agree with #1 and #2. Both of these aspects have helped me quite a bit on the course and I've seen an alteration in scoring because of it. As a collorary to that, it's shrunk my blow up holes a couple of strokes because I'm not so annoyed I don't take the next shot properly or go for the hero shot. Snowmen and worse have been replaced by a max of 6.

 

I can't really comment on #3. I'm a wuss in the heat but love the cold. The warmer it gets, the worse I get towards the end of a round. Not exactly something PMC can help out with heh.

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I can't really comment on #3. I'm a wuss in the heat but love the cold. The warmer it gets, the worse I get towards the end of a round. Not exactly something PMC can help out with heh.

 

Sounds like the Canucks in last year's finals :o

 

Love,

 

Bruins fan...

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