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The short game is far and away my favorite part of golf, and I thought I'd open up a thread to discuss it. Here are some questions that you can answer to start things off:

 

How many different shots do you have inside of 50 yards?

What technique do you use to play those shots?

What determines the kind of shot you play around the green?

What clubs do you use inside of 50 yards, and what impacts your club selection?

What do you like to see the ball do when it hits the green (do you like to get it rolling ASAP, throw it all the way to the hole, etc)?

 

Feel free to add other questions as the discussion goes along.

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I'll try to answer all of my original questions:

 

How many different shots do you have inside of 50 yards?

I play a waist high shot with my 56 for 50 yards, and the same shot with my 60 goes 40 yards.

Around the green, I play pretty basic chips and pitches. I open the face pretty rarely, the situation needs to be just right.

 

What technique do you use to play those shots?

My waist high shots are a bit unusual. I try keep the face square to the target the entire way back. I keep my weight forward the entire time, no shift.

Chips - weight forward, hands forward and firm, ball in the middle of my stance

Pitches - similar to a chip, just with a bit more speed and loft

If I open the face up, I really focus on keep my weight forward and my head down through impact.

 

What determines the kind of shot you play around the green?

Pin position & how much green I have to work with

The way the ball is lying has a big impact on how aggressive I am with the shot. If it is sitting down at all, or sitting on hard pan, I'm very likely to play a safe little chip or pitch.

 

What clubs do you use inside of 50 yards, and what impacts your club selection?

 

For pitches, I use the 60* almost exclusively. Chips are usually my PW. In the sand, it's my 56*. I stick to this recipe pretty religiously unless 1) a chip has to run a really long way or :unsure: the sand is such that I want a low bounce wedge

 

What do you like to see the ball do when it hits the green (do you like to get it rolling ASAP, throw it all the way to the hole, etc)?

 

On my waist high shots, I like to see once bounce once and stop. On virtually all other shots, I play the ball to roll out.

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The short game is far and away my favorite part of golf, and I thought I'd open up a thread to discuss it. Here are some questions that you can answer to start things off:

 

How many different shots do you have inside of 50 yards?

What technique do you use to play those shots?

What determines the kind of shot you play around the green?

What clubs do you use inside of 50 yards, and what impacts your club selection?

What do you like to see the ball do when it hits the green (do you like to get it rolling ASAP, throw it all the way to the hole, etc)?

 

Feel free to add other questions as the discussion goes along.

I am far from an expert, but i will kick things off.

 

from 35-90 yards, I have one type of a "pet" shot that I like to play which is a dead arm pitch. Pelz talks about this extensively in his book The Short Game Bible. Works really well for someone who hates to practice.

 

Around the green, I prefer to chip as much as possible, with as low a lofted club as possible. I want the ball rolling most of the way to the hole.

 

Obviously, lie and obstacles determine what shots i have to play.

 

I will use anything from 60* to hybrid depending on the shot. Lie pretty much dictates the club I choose

 

I want the ball to hit and run. I am too old to play that cool two hit and stop chip all the kids play today.. not enough nerve.

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The short game is far and away my favorite part of golf, and I thought I'd open up a thread to discuss it. Here are some questions that you can answer to start things off:

 

How many different shots do you have inside of 50 yards?

What technique do you use to play those shots?

What determines the kind of shot you play around the green?

What clubs do you use inside of 50 yards, and what impacts your club selection?

What do you like to see the ball do when it hits the green (do you like to get it rolling ASAP, throw it all the way to the hole, etc)?

 

Feel free to add other questions as the discussion goes along.

Inside of 50 I have really tried to keep it simple. If I have to go over something, I hit weak 55*. Trying to learn to open it an flop for that 10 yard up and down, but it is not there.

Nothing in front to clear, I chip. Methods get a bit tangled here as do the clubs. Short carry, limited roll 55* and as the carry/roll numbers change i may drop to PW or 9 on occasions.

Working on the 7i and hybrid with a putter stroke from the edge. Improving here.

No clue how the guys can open the face, take a full swing and have the ball go 5 feet, landing softly.

Seeing guys do this on the chipping green scares the snot out of me every time.

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How many different shots do you have inside of 50 yards?

I have 4 shots.

 

1. Half 58°

2. 75° punch with 58°

3. Low 52 with a big cut.

4. Slinging 52 punch with a lot of top spin for when I am behind a tree.

 

What technique do you use to play those shots?

1. I take it back just above my hip.

2. I put it in the back of my stance and I lead with my legs. It is a low trajectory, high spinning shot.

3. Same as a punch but with a cut swing. I take it back between my knee and hip and accelerate through.

4. Back of stance and I roll my hands over fast.

 

What determines the kind of shot you play around the green?

The lie. If I have a lot of carry. If I am short sided. If I want to use the slopes.

 

What clubs do you use inside of 50 yards, and what impacts your club selection?

52 and mostly 58. and sometimes

 

What do you like to see the ball do when it hits the green (do you like to get it rolling ASAP, throw it all the way to the hole, etc)?

Depends on the shot. I like to throw darts with my 58 and i roll out my 52.

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Inside of 50 I have really tried to keep it simple. If I have to go over something, I hit weak 55*. Trying to learn to open it an flop for that 10 yard up and down, but it is not there.

Nothing in front to clear, I chip. Methods get a bit tangled here as do the clubs. Short carry, limited roll 55* and as the carry/roll numbers change i may drop to PW or 9 on occasions.

Working on the 7i and hybrid with a putter stroke from the edge. Improving here.

No clue how the guys can open the face, take a full swing and have the ball go 5 feet, landing softly.

Seeing guys do this on the chipping green scares the snot out of me every time.

 

I like to hit that 5 foot shot...in practice. Unless I was in a match play situation where I was under the gun to get up and down, I would never pull it out on the course. I'll bladed too many and hit too many 6 inches for me to have real confidence in it. I do like to open it up about 45* to the target line and play a nice solid pitch when the situation calls for it, that's a shot I'm very confident in.

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I like to hit that 5 foot shot...in practice. Unless I was in a match play situation where I was under the gun to get up and down, I would never pull it out on the course. I'll bladed too many and hit too many 6 inches for me to have real confidence in it. I do like to open it up about 45* to the target line and play a nice solid pitch when the situation calls for it, that's a shot I'm very confident in.

I have tried the 5 foot and it is usually 1" high and 50 yards long.

Really I am just getting the hang of the aiming with the open face and how to address the ball correctly so that it flies at the target and not 45* right of target.

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I am far from an expert, but i will kick things off.

 

from 35-90 yards, I have one type of a "pet" shot that I like to play which is a dead arm pitch. Pelz talks about this extensively in his book The Short Game Bible. Works really well for someone who hates to practice.

 

Around the green, I prefer to chip as much as possible, with as low a lofted club as possible. I want the ball rolling most of the way to the hole.

 

Obviously, lie and obstacles determine what shots i have to play.

 

I will use anything from 60* to hybrid depending on the shot. Lie pretty much dictates the club I choose

 

I want the ball to hit and run. I am too old to play that cool two hit and stop chip all the kids play today.. not enough nerve.

 

Can you describe the dead arm pitch a little bit? My memory of the Short Game Bible is a little fuzzy, mainly due to its being thicker than a phone book.

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I have tried the 5 foot and it is usually 1" high and 50 yards long.

Really I am just getting the hang of the aiming with the open face and how to address the ball correctly so that it flies at the target and not 45* right of target.

 

Pelz has a good section in his book about this (I think I've seen it in magazines too). He recommends using some driveway markers or clubs and marking the line that your feet are on, and the line that your club face is pointing on. After you set up with those lines, hit the shot and see where the ball lands. If the ball lands 6' right of the target, then you know that you need to aim 6' right with that set up.

 

If I butchered that and someone can explain it better, please do.

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Pelz has a good section in his book about this (I think I've seen it in magazines too). He recommends using some driveway markers or clubs and marking the line that your feet are on, and the line that your club face is pointing on. After you set up with those lines, hit the shot and see where the ball lands. If the ball lands 6' right of the target, then you know that you need to aim 6' right with that set up.

 

If I butchered that and someone can explain it better, please do.

That makes sense. We have some practice holes that you can rent by the hour and I spent two hours out there hitting open wedge shots to try and figure it out. Well away from bystanders. I have my pro tour orange sticks, so I can give what you say a try.

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That makes sense. We have some practice holes that you can rent by the hour and I spent two hours out there hitting open wedge shots to try and figure it out. Well away from bystanders. I have my pro tour orange sticks, so I can give what you say a try.

 

Renting an entire hole would be pretty sweet. Is that connected with a course or a range? I think that would be a great way to practice those "high risk" wedge shots. I had the advantage of being able to walk out to a very nice practice green when it was empty, so I could practice those shots without endangering anyone.

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Renting an entire hole would be pretty sweet. Is that connected with a course or a range? I think that would be a great way to practice those "high risk" wedge shots. I had the advantage of being able to walk out to a very nice practice green when it was empty, so I could practice those shots without endangering anyone.

They have three rotating par 3 holes really away from everything $10/hour. bring the shag bag and fire like a madman.

this is where I plan on camping out with the 58/60 when it is time to master the demon

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Can you describe the dead arm pitch a little bit? My memory of the Short Game Bible is a little fuzzy, mainly due to its being thicker than a phone book.

Just the clock swing. 7:30, 9:00, 10:30. with 4 wedges gives you 12 distinct distances inside 100 yards.

Left forearm is the clock arm, make no real body turn, and don't hit at the ball. dead arm swing the club. and watch the ball go the same distance every time. It kills my buddies to see me bust out the bushnell inside 70yds, But I have to know EXACTLY!!!

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They have three rotating par 3 holes really away from everything $10/hour. bring the shag bag and fire like a madman.

this is where I plan on camping out with the 58/60 when it is time to master the demon

 

Wow, at $10 per hour I'd be living on those par 3's.

 

No better way to master the 60 than beating it into submission...well...maybe hypnosis, but that's another thread.

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Just the clock swing. 7:30, 9:00, 10:30. with 4 wedges gives you 12 distinct distances inside 100 yards.

Left forearm is the clock arm, make no real body turn, and don't hit at the ball. dead arm swing the club. and watch the ball go the same distance every time. It kills my buddies to see me bust out the bushnell inside 70yds, But I have to know EXACTLY!!!

 

Hooray! I've finally found someone else who uses their laser inside 70 yards!

 

I understand the swing you're talking about, I always just think of it as the clock swing. I like that method, except I just use waist high, knock down, and full swing; his increments are a little too fine for a lug like myself.

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I hit every short game shot with my 60*. I have a couple different swings: My normal pitch is basically a small version of the SnT swing, so I try to keep my weight forward. I also have a flop shot, and short chips I put the ball way back in my stance and sort of putt the ball.

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Also, sand shots I use the 60* still, and I basically hit the flop shot, just I make sure to bottom out behind the ball. This combined with the club, makes it go nice and high with a lot of spin.

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I hit every short game shot with my 60*. I have a couple different swings: My normal pitch is basically a small version of the SnT swing, so I try to keep my weight forward. I also have a flop shot, and short chips I put the ball way back in my stance and sort of putt the ball.

 

 

Also, sand shots I use the 60* still, and I basically hit the flop shot, just I make sure to bottom out behind the ball. This combined with the club, makes it go nice and high with a lot of spin.

That explains why it is so well worn. So what kind of shots do you use the other wedge for? full only?

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That explains why it is so well worn. So what kind of shots do you use the other wedge for? full only?

 

I just use the 54* for full shots. I used to have a 56 instead but I changed it for the 54 so I could hit it perfectly 100 yards. The 54 gives me better yardage gaps betwwen wedges.

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I just use the 54* for full shots. I used to have a 56 instead but I changed it for the 54 so I could hit it perfectly 100 yards. The 54 gives me better yardage gaps betwwen wedges.

I am curious about the two wedge set-up. did it take long to get the right bounce for how you are playing them? 9* of bounce on your 60* for sand play impresses me. Granted I am terrible, but that low bounce in a trap seems like license to dig too deep.

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