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Wow, do you practice that shot? Seems to me that putting over that kind of distance would bring a lot of obstacles into play between you and the ball - uneven ground, sprinkler heads, divot marks, grain, etc.

 

I would opt instead to use a hybrid. Land it as close to the green to avoid as much as of the crap in between as possible and let it roll on up to the hole.

At this particular course, the fairways are cut really tight, and there is practically no difference between fw and green. Almost like playing in Scotland. The ball just rolls and rolls. I find it easier to judge than a chip or pitch.

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I use the 2H from under the trees. Usually that is when I make pure contact and the ball goes UP anyhow. Silly swing.

Father-in-law is the master of the driver from under the trees.

 

It was a fairway lie. I don't like to use a hybrid, as it is a little hard to judge distance. I have some come off of the hybrid much hotter than intended. Putter seems to be the same. For me.

 

Out of the trees is the only time I use my hybrid for chip shots, otherwise, like Nic said, it's tough to judge distance.

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At this particular course, the fairways are cut really tight, and there is practically no difference between fw and green. Almost like playing in Scotland. The ball just rolls and rolls. I find it easier to judge than a chip or pitch.

What about a "normal" fairway? How far back do you extend putter range, assuming middle pin?

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I have no idea how I play any of those shots. I'll only use either my 56 or 60. Rarely anything else. I'm probably the least technical golfer on the planet. I've only ever had 1 lesson. Don't practice. Just learn by playing. I tend to play a lot of dead hand stuff. I can be yards off the green and hit a 60 that won't get more than 2 feet off the ground, bounce twice and stop dead. Yet hit that same club, length over trees. It just depends on the situation.

 

As for when people say you should always chip with the least loft possible, I call BS. I don't have time to teach myself to chip with 7 different clubs, judging run out etc. Although I will admit to chipping with a fairway wood on occasion.

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I'd like to think that no pairing could ruin our time, we've both got pretty resilient (? not quite right) personalities, but it's nice to be genuinely happy with your group. 5 hours can be a long time otherwise.

 

5 hours man, I've never had a 5 round. I get all wound up if they go over 4;15 down here.

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I've done it but it's a shot I wouldn't use that often, probably not even once a round, and the way the ball jumps off the face I find it difficult to get a feel for this shot.

 

Try holding it like you hold your putter and lime it up off the toe. It doesn't tend to 'jump' off the face as much then.

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As for when people say you should always chip with the least loft possible, I call BS. I don't have time to teach myself to chip with 7 different clubs, judging run out etc. Although I will admit to chipping with a fairway wood on occasion.

 

I'm the same way, one club gets it done for me.

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Do any of you guys ever chip with hybrids? I use a hybrid if I have to curve one out of the woods, but not around the greens.

 

 

I think it's a great shot if you practice it. If not - eh. Like nic said, the ball really comes off much hotter than a putter.

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Hey Nic since this is the short game section and I have wedge issues...

What do you think is the most common bounce characteristics for a 60/56/52 or 58/54/50 set-up?

 

FWIW, my 52* is 8* bounce, 56* is 14* bounce, and my 60* is 4* bounce. I like the variety because some sand needs a high bounce wedge and some sand needs low bounce.

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I have no idea how I play any of those shots. I'll only use either my 56 or 60. Rarely anything else. I'm probably the least technical golfer on the planet. I've only ever had 1 lesson. Don't practice. Just learn by playing. I tend to play a lot of dead hand stuff. I can be yards off the green and hit a 60 that won't get more than 2 feet off the ground, bounce twice and stop dead. Yet hit that same club, length over trees. It just depends on the situation.

 

As for when people say you should always chip with the least loft possible, I call BS. I don't have time to teach myself to chip with 7 different clubs, judging run out etc. Although I will admit to chipping with a fairway wood on occasion.

 

My teacher taught me to use the same chipping technique, land the ball about a yard onto the green, and let it run to the hole. If the hole is close to the edge, use a how lofted club, if it needs to roll more, then use a low lofted club like a 3I.

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5 hours man, I've never had a 5 round. I get all wound up if they go over 4;15 down here.

 

Not trying to threadjack my own thread, but I've never understood people being upset about being on a golf course for more time. We spend all week waiting to play on Sunday, then we get upset about being there longer? I'm happy to be out there all day.

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At this particular course, the fairways are cut really tight, and there is practically no difference between fw and green. Almost like playing in Scotland. The ball just rolls and rolls. I find it easier to judge than a chip or pitch.

 

Yeah, makes sense. We don't have many of those here among the corn fields of Illinois. LOL.

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I'm the same way, one club gets it done for me.

 

You guys must not have the same kind of sloping greens and trees/shrubs/mounds/etc. around greens that we do.

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I have no idea how I play any of those shots. I'll only use either my 56 or 60. Rarely anything else. I'm probably the least technical golfer on the planet. I've only ever had 1 lesson. Don't practice. Just learn by playing. I tend to play a lot of dead hand stuff. I can be yards off the green and hit a 60 that won't get more than 2 feet off the ground, bounce twice and stop dead. Yet hit that same club, length over trees. It just depends on the situation.

 

As for when people say you should always chip with the least loft possible, I call BS. I don't have time to teach myself to chip with 7 different clubs, judging run out etc. Although I will admit to chipping with a fairway wood on occasion.

What was your practice like to get to this state? I am thinking that one club to do all of this would be great. Less thinking and decisions to make.

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I don't practice, period, ever. I do play a lot though. Maybe 5 rounds a week in summer. If i onlyhave time for e afew holes. I'll just play 3 balls. And just hit 2-3 chips after I walk off every green. Course is normally deserted after work.

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You guys must not have the same kind of sloping greens and trees/shrubs/mounds/etc. around greens that we do.

 

Can you explain this a bit? Are you of the opinion that 1 club can't hit enough shots to deal with slopes, mounds, and shrubs? Not necessarily disagreeing, just wanting to understand what you're saying.

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IM trying something new this year, i dropped the 54 in favor of a 51/58 because i wanted the 5wood back in the bag.

 

What i used to do is the Pelz clock type swing, just making sure that you accelerate. Control the distances with the length of your backswing. Similar to putting, at least thats what i try to do.

 

My shot of 50 yards is a 730 58 degree wedge, and hope it spins like heck. Using the clock method is not hard IMO, as long as you trust it.. But, like the rest of the game of golf, trust is not that easy to come by.

 

as for chips, its usually a 58 unless there is a ton of room between myself and the pin, in which case i need to use my 51. for some reason, 20 -30 yard chips and i dont get along when using my 58. Besides, you dont always need the fancy high soft landing shot. Rolling the ball will accomplish the same thing.

 

i wont hit the flopper unless i have to. To play it i play the ball forward and try to keep my hands "dead" as long as possible before releasing them, this works for me. It is probably not textbook, but being that i have never filmed a floadopalous i couldnt tell you. Thats just what i feel when i swing.

 

I just picked up a cally xtour PM grind, so hopefully that makes my 58 even more versatile.

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IM trying something new this year, i dropped the 54 in favor of a 51/58 because i wanted the 5wood back in the bag.

 

What i used to do is the Pelz clock type swing, just making sure that you accelerate. Control the distances with the length of your backswing. Similar to putting, at least thats what i try to do.

 

My shot of 50 yards is a 730 58 degree wedge, and hope it spins like heck. Using the clock method is not hard IMO, as long as you trust it.. But, like the rest of the game of golf, trust is not that easy to come by.

 

as for chips, its usually a 58 unless there is a ton of room between myself and the pin, in which case i need to use my 51. for some reason, 20 -30 yard chips and i dont get along when using my 58. Besides, you dont always need the fancy high soft landing shot. Rolling the ball will accomplish the same thing.

 

i wont hit the flopper unless i have to. To play it i play the ball forward and try to keep my hands "dead" as long as possible before releasing them, this works for me. It is probably not textbook, but being that i have never filmed a floadopalous i couldnt tell you. Thats just what i feel when i swing.

 

I just picked up a cally xtour PM grind, so hopefully that makes my 58 even more versatile.

 

So you went to 51/58 from what, 50-54-58?

 

Good information on the techniques, etc. It seems like the Pelz method is pretty popular around here. I'm right with you in terms of rolling the ball, with anything less than a half wedge I'm really not expecting/trying to make it drop and stop.

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You guys must not have the same kind of sloping greens and trees/shrubs/mounds/etc. around greens that we do.

 

I don't get it. We have a lot of trees, here, that's for sure.....

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Can you explain this a bit? Are you of the opinion that 1 club can't hit enough shots to deal with slopes, mounds, and shrubs? Not necessarily disagreeing, just wanting to understand what you're saying.

 

Yes, you got it.

 

For instance, I played a par 3 the other day and flew the green onto a downhill slope to a tight flag with the green sloping away from me. Probably the toughest shot you could imagine other than I had a pretty decent lie and the ball was sitting up pretty good. I took my lob wedge, opened the face slightly, popped the ball straight up and landed it within a few feet of the hole. Anything other than a 60 degree (or higher lofted) wedge in that situation would have rolled out and I would have had a difficult time getting up and down. That is just one example.

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