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I don't get it. We have a lot of trees, here, that's for sure.....

 

Sometimes you have to hit under trees my young friend. In that case, loft is not your friend. ;)

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Sometimes you have to hit under trees my young friend. In that case, loft is not your friend. ;)

 

In that situation I deloft the club, put it back in my stance, close the face, and make a hook swing. I could use a different club but I like the consistency that using just 2 gives me. I could hit that shot with a SW but i would probably hit it too far.

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Yes, you got it.

 

For instance, I played a par 3 the other day and flew the green onto a downhill slope to a tight flag with the green sloping away from me. Probably the toughest shot you could imagine other than I had a pretty decent lie and the ball was sitting up pretty good. I took my lob wedge, opened the face slightly, popped the ball straight up and landed it within a few feet of the hole. Anything other than a 60 degree (or higher lofted) wedge in that situation would have rolled out and I would have had a difficult time getting up and down. That is just one example.

 

 

In that situation I deloft the club, put it back in my stance, close the face, and make a hook swing. I could use a different club but I like the consistency that using just 2 gives me. I could hit that shot with a SW but i would probably hit it too far.

 

I see your point, Blaine, but I'm actually with jamo. Actually, I'm in the middle, I suppose. I play 2 clubs, PW and 60. I can keep that PW about as low as I need.

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I see your point, Blaine, but I'm actually with jamo. Actually, I'm in the middle, I suppose. I play 2 clubs, PW and 60. I can keep that PW about as low as I need.

 

Well, to each to his own. If what you do works then obviously stick with it. I just like to keep it simple and let the club do the work.

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Well, to each to his own. If what you do works then obviously stick with it. I just like to keep it simple and let the club do the work.

Now you say this. I added the 60* yesterday and got away from my simple norm with disastrous results.

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So you went to 51/58 from what, 50-54-58?

 

Good information on the techniques, etc. It seems like the Pelz method is pretty popular around here. I'm right with you in terms of rolling the ball, with anything less than a half wedge I'm really not expecting/trying to make it drop and stop.

 

I had a 47 PW, 54 SW and 58LW. I went to the 51/58. This is still in the experimental stages. I really need a 51/52 that i can trust and im not 100 percent sure that the mizzy is going to cut the mustard. At first the leading edge dug, so i blunted it with my belt sander, actually looks pretty good. The verdict will be in soon when i hit more shots with it on the range.

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Now you say this. I added the 60* yesterday and got away from my simple norm with disastrous results.

:)

 

Didn't you read the fine print...

 

Results may vary.

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I had a 47 PW, 54 SW and 58LW. I went to the 51/58. This is still in the experimental stages. I really need a 51/52 that i can trust and im not 100 percent sure that the mizzy is going to cut the mustard. At first the leading edge dug, so i blunted it with my belt sander, actually looks pretty good. The verdict will be in soon when i hit more shots with it on the range.

 

 

Cool. I love your willigness to hit your club on the belt sander. Have you done any grinding before or did you just have faith?

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How many different shots do you have inside of 50 yards?

I like to play a low flying, higher spinning shot that will take one bounce and stop, I will usually use my 54* but sometimes the pitching wedge to keep it even lower. When needed, I will play a higher shot with my lob wedge, but I don't really like that shot since it is harder to control the distance and spin.

 

What technique do you use to play those shots?

I play the ball about two inches back in my stance and will cut off the finish at or below my waist to hit the lower shot. For the higher shot I will open my stance about twenty degrees and open the face of the wedge until it is facing the target and swing along my foot line to a over head finish holding off the release a bit.

 

What determines the kind of shot you play around the green?

If I have to clear a bunker to a pin that is close to the trouble I will hit the higher shot, if I have any room to work with, I will hit the lower shot.

 

What clubs do you use inside of 50 yards, and what impacts your club selection?

Mostly the 54* or PW for low shots, the 60* for the higher shot.

 

What do you like to see the ball do when it hits the green (do you like to get it rolling ASAP, throw it all the way to the hole, etc)?

I prefer one bounce and stop, but when it is a little softer out, I play it a few feet past the hole and let it back up a couple of feet.

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What do you like to see the ball do when it hits the green (do you like to get it rolling ASAP, throw it all the way to the hole, etc)?

I prefer one bounce and stop, but when it is a little softer out, I play it a few feet past the hole and let it back up a couple of feet.

 

I like more of a dead stop, much more dramatic. :angry:

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I like more of a dead stop, much more dramatic. :)

 

I like to play to a more consistent shot, sometimes when I hit one that I think is just going to stop dead, it will back up a bit. Would rather play for the one small hop and stop.

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How many different shots do you have inside of 50 yards?

I like to play a low flying, higher spinning shot that will take one bounce and stop, I will usually use my 54* but sometimes the pitching wedge to keep it even lower. When needed, I will play a higher shot with my lob wedge, but I don't really like that shot since it is harder to control the distance and spin.

 

What technique do you use to play those shots?

I play the ball about two inches back in my stance and will cut off the finish at or below my waist to hit the lower shot. For the higher shot I will open my stance about twenty degrees and open the face of the wedge until it is facing the target and swing along my foot line to a over head finish holding off the release a bit.

 

What determines the kind of shot you play around the green?

If I have to clear a bunker to a pin that is close to the trouble I will hit the higher shot, if I have any room to work with, I will hit the lower shot.

 

What clubs do you use inside of 50 yards, and what impacts your club selection?

Mostly the 54* or PW for low shots, the 60* for the higher shot.

 

What do you like to see the ball do when it hits the green (do you like to get it rolling ASAP, throw it all the way to the hole, etc)?

I prefer one bounce and stop, but when it is a little softer out, I play it a few feet past the hole and let it back up a couple of feet.

 

Thanks for the thorough response. 2 questions.

 

1) What ball do you play? It seems like your short game is very high spin, so I'm curious.

 

2) Are there any situations where you play a pitch & run shot, or do you play a shot that spins and sits 100% of the time?

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How many different shots do you have inside of 50 yards?

I like to play a low flying, higher spinning shot that will take one bounce and stop, I will usually use my 54* but sometimes the pitching wedge to keep it even lower. When needed, I will play a higher shot with my lob wedge, but I don't really like that shot since it is harder to control the distance and spin.

 

What technique do you use to play those shots?

I play the ball about two inches back in my stance and will cut off the finish at or below my waist to hit the lower shot. For the higher shot I will open my stance about twenty degrees and open the face of the wedge until it is facing the target and swing along my foot line to a over head finish holding off the release a bit.

 

What determines the kind of shot you play around the green?

If I have to clear a bunker to a pin that is close to the trouble I will hit the higher shot, if I have any room to work with, I will hit the lower shot.

 

What clubs do you use inside of 50 yards, and what impacts your club selection?

Mostly the 54* or PW for low shots, the 60* for the higher shot.

 

What do you like to see the ball do when it hits the green (do you like to get it rolling ASAP, throw it all the way to the hole, etc)?

I prefer one bounce and stop, but when it is a little softer out, I play it a few feet past the hole and let it back up a couple of feet.

 

Great post! One question - 54 and 60* is an interesting wedge configuration. Most people play 54* and 58*. Which club do you use from the bunker? Any issues?

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Great post! One question - 54 and 60* is an interesting wedge configuration. Most people play 54* and 58*. Which club do you use from the bunker? Any issues?

 

I will use my 60* from the sand, don't have any issues with that set-up.

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I ended up hitting my 60 out of the sand a lot in Myrtle because of the sand. For some reason, the amount of bounce on my 56 wasn't working for me.

Fluffy sand or packed and wet being better with the 60?

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I will use my 60* from the sand, don't have any issues with that set-up.

 

I'm surprised because I thought I read in another post that you ground your 60* to remove a lot of the bounce. You must open the face quite a bit then for bunker play. :lol:

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The sand was not wet, but very dense. The 56 cut right under the ball and left the ball pretty much where it was. The 60 seemed to be perfect.

 

How much bounce do you have on your 60?

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