Cole McCain Posted July 19, 2023 Share Posted July 19, 2023 (edited) Was wondering what are the best/easiest stat tracking apps people are using? Edited July 19, 2023 by Cole McCain Quote Driver Sim 2 Max 3wood R15 3 hybrid SLDR P790 4-AW 54, 60 Cleveland RTX Putter TaylorMade Daytona Link to comment
tony@CIC Posted July 19, 2023 Share Posted July 19, 2023 I use Shotscope for various data points: club distances, strokes gained, short game performance and it also gives me average hole performance for a specific course. It's a one time purchase (watch and tags) so no subscription fee. Cole McCain 1 Quote Left Hand orientation SIM 2 D Max with Fujikura Air Speeder Shaft Cobra Radspeed 3W/RIptide Shaft 410 Hybrids 22*, 26* Cobra Speed Zone 6-GP/Recoil ESX 460 F3 Shafts SM7 54* Wedge Glide 3.0 60* Wedge O Works putter V3 NX9-HD - 4 Wheel EZGO TXT 48v cart - too many shoes to list and so many to buy And BAG Boy Golf Balls: Vice Pro Plus 2020 Official Tester Beginning Driver Speed - 78 2019 Official Tester 410 Driver 2018 Official Tester C300 Link to comment
cnosil Posted July 19, 2023 Share Posted July 19, 2023 53 minutes ago, Cole McCain said: Was wondering what are the best/easiest stat tracking apps people are using? “Best” is a subjective opinion that will result lots of opinions. For overall game tracking, I think the best is shotscope. Easy to use, no subscription fee, and minimal interaction required on the course. If you just want to track total like FW, GIR, and putts over time I’d tell you to use a spreadsheet program like Excel. i’d suggest describing what you are hoping to track, how much interaction with the app do you want on course, price range, willingness to do post round editing, what you want to gain from the app, etc. if you can provide that people can give you better input on which apps might best fit your needs/desires. THEZIPR23 and Golf2Much 2 Quote Driver: G400 Max 9* w/ KBS Tour Driven Fairway: Paradym AI Smoke Max HL 16.5* w/MCA TENSEI AV Series Blue Hybrids: 915H 21* w/KBS Tour Graphite Hybrid Prototype 915H 24* w/KBS Tour Graphite Hybrid Prototype Irons: TR20V 6-11 w/Vizard TR20-85 Graphite Wedge: 54/12D, 60/8M w/Accra iWedge 90 Graphite Putter: Render w/VA Composites Baddazz Backup Putters: Sacks Parente MC 3 Stripe, Milled Collection RSX 2 Member: MGS Hitsquad since 2017 Link to comment
GolfSpy_APH Posted July 19, 2023 Share Posted July 19, 2023 1 hour ago, Cole McCain said: Was wondering what are the best/easiest stat tracking apps people are using? Do you mind wearing a watch while you golf? Do you mind having your phone or while you golf? Quote as of Nov 6, 2023 (Past WITB) Driver: Paradym TD w/ GD ADDI 6X Driver Shootout! Wood: F7 3 wood 14.5* w/ Motore F1 Shaft Irons: T Series - T200 5 Iron T150 6-9 Iron T100 PW/GW Wedge: Toura Golf - A Spec 53,37,61 degree Putter: Mezz Max! Balls: Vice Pro Plus Drip (Blue/Orange) Link to comment
Millwrightofgolf Posted July 19, 2023 Share Posted July 19, 2023 I wear my 45mm Apple Watch every time I golf and I love it. I use the Golfshot app and it works great. I do avoid my heavy metal watch band it tends to make my hands a bit late but otherwise the face of my watch is the same position as the face of the club so it’s definitely a useful feeling! happy golfing!! Quote Golf addict, try to play everyday if I can. Link to comment
Cole McCain Posted July 19, 2023 Author Share Posted July 19, 2023 13 minutes ago, GolfSpy_APH said: Do you mind wearing a watch while you golf? Do you mind having your phone or while you golf? 2 minutes ago, Millwrightofgolf said: I wear my 45mm Apple Watch every time I golf and I love it. I use the Golfshot app and it works great. I do avoid my heavy metal watch band it tends to make my hands a bit late but otherwise the face of my watch is the same position as the face of the club so it’s definitely a useful feeling! happy golfing!! Don’t like wearing the watch. Phone isn’t an issue. Millwrightofgolf 1 Quote Driver Sim 2 Max 3wood R15 3 hybrid SLDR P790 4-AW 54, 60 Cleveland RTX Putter TaylorMade Daytona Link to comment
GolfSpy TCB Posted July 19, 2023 Share Posted July 19, 2023 I'm not a fan of having to mess with my phone during a round, it distracts my focus. So when I'm tracking stats, I use a strokes gained style tracking on my card, then enter the round into the GolfMetrics app on my phone when I'm finished playing. It has been a while since I've done this... probably should start doing it again to understand where I need to focus my practice :). Cole McCain, GolfSpy_APH and berkeleybob 3 Quote Titleist TSR3 9* (A2 setting) Driver - Graphite Design Tour AD UB-5 R1 Titleist TSR2+ 3 Wood - Graphite Design Tour AD UB-5 R1 Srixon ZX 5W Callaway Paradym 4-PW Titleist Vokey SM9 50-08, 54-10 & 58-08 Scotty Cameron Super Select Newport 2.5 2023 Titleist ProV1 Link to comment
Cole McCain Posted July 19, 2023 Author Share Posted July 19, 2023 17 minutes ago, cnosil said: “Best” is a subjective opinion that will result lots of opinions. For overall game tracking, I think the best is shotscope. Easy to use, no subscription fee, and minimal interaction required on the course. If you just want to track total like FW, GIR, and putts over time I’d tell you to use a spreadsheet program like Excel. i’d suggest describing what you are hoping to track, how much interaction with the app do you want on course, price range, willingness to do post round editing, what you want to gain from the app, etc. if you can provide that people can give you better input on which apps might best fit your needs/desires. Do you need a carts in gps device to connect with this app? Quote Driver Sim 2 Max 3wood R15 3 hybrid SLDR P790 4-AW 54, 60 Cleveland RTX Putter TaylorMade Daytona Link to comment
skraeling Posted July 19, 2023 Share Posted July 19, 2023 Arccos while expensive. Works pretty well for me. I got it when I got my new iron set a few years ago now just so I could figure out the damn ranges it goes since I don’t have a launch monitor. Quote Driver - Sim2Max 10.5° (set at 9*) UST Helium shaft 3W - StealthHL 16.5° 3h - Sim2max 19° irons - Sim2OS kbsmax85mt steel shafts reg flex 5i-Aw wedgies - Jaws MD5 52°-10° (Bounce) S Grind Jaws MD5 56°-12° (Bounce) W Grind Putter - Mizuno OMOI Type II VENTUS Velocore+ review Stack Referral code Final Sugar "Pure" Golf Balls Review Link to comment
GolfSpy_APH Posted July 19, 2023 Share Posted July 19, 2023 15 minutes ago, Cole McCain said: Don’t like wearing the watch. Phone isn’t an issue. No watch makes ShotScope less than ideal. Phone options are plentiful. Here are some that have been highlighted on the forum. Arccos SwingU TheGrint GolfShot 18Birdies And many more! Cole McCain 1 Quote as of Nov 6, 2023 (Past WITB) Driver: Paradym TD w/ GD ADDI 6X Driver Shootout! Wood: F7 3 wood 14.5* w/ Motore F1 Shaft Irons: T Series - T200 5 Iron T150 6-9 Iron T100 PW/GW Wedge: Toura Golf - A Spec 53,37,61 degree Putter: Mezz Max! Balls: Vice Pro Plus Drip (Blue/Orange) Link to comment
BobBC78 Posted July 19, 2023 Share Posted July 19, 2023 Shot Scope user here. I've been using the X5 since it was released earlier this year and before that the V3. Before the V3 I had a Garmin which was GPS only. For some reason I have always worn a watch when I played golf so wearing one for GPS and tracking purposes was natural. When I was thinking about a tracking device having to wear something on my belt or carrying my phone during a round were real negatives. Quote Ping G400 Max 10.5* - Alta CB SR flex Ping G425 SFT 5W (19*) - Alta CB Slate SR flex Ping Anser 4H (23*) - TFC 800H regular flex Ping G430 5H (26*), 6H (30*) and 7H (34*)- Alta CB 70 regular flex Ping G710 8i-GW - Recoil 80 F3 shaft Ping Glide 3.0 Eye-2 grind 56* - Recoil 80 F3 shaft, ChipR - Alta CB regular flex shaft Odyssey Tri-hot 5K Seven DB Other: Vice Pro or Snell Prime 3.0; Shot Scope X5; True Linkswear; Callaway Org 7 bag; Clicgear 3.5+ Did a Member Review on Argolf's Pendragon XL Broomstick putter. Link to comment
Shlax Posted July 19, 2023 Share Posted July 19, 2023 (edited) Sorry to sort of hijack the thread, but I’m also looking for a stat tracking app. I have a Garmin Approach S60 watch and am 100% satisfied with it in terms of score keeping, distance/hazard/GPS measurements, club tracking, etc, but the performance/stats analysis tool in Garmin Golf simply doesn’t cut it and is very deficient. Is there an app that could use Garmin’s shot tracking data (club, distance, lie, etc) and analyze it in order to obtain representative strokes gained data and identify weak or strong areas of my game for example? Basically, keep using my Garmin watch as it is, but link it to another app that includes in-depth data analysis. Edited July 19, 2023 by Shlax Quote D: Rogue ST Max LS 9° / Rogue White 130 MSI 70X 3W: Sim Max 15° / Ventus Blue FW 6S 3H: TSi3 20° / True Temper Smoke Black RDX 6.0 80HYB 4i-PW: 01CB / Tour 130X 2023 tester 52°-56°-60°: Milled Grind 2 / True Temper S200 P: DFX 2-ball Ball: Q-Star Tour & Z-Star and TP5 & TP5x Grips: D-3W: Z-Grip Cord / 3H-PW: Crossline 360 / Wedges: Genesis Crossline Cord Bag: Anyday Ronin 14 2024 tester Stat tracking: X5 Link to comment
TylorJudd Posted July 19, 2023 Share Posted July 19, 2023 Personally use shot scope V3 and 18Birdies. I've given up on shot scope, and 18birdies is great. The free version gives you everything you want and the paid version has everything else you could think you'd need. 18Birdies pairs with an apple watch too making it a basic shot scope V3 Quote I like golf. You should like golf. If life is tough, play more golf! Callaway Paradym Triple Diamond 10.5, Graphite Design Tour AD-MJ 6x Titleist TSr3 18 Degree, Graphite Design Tour Ad-DI 7x Takomo 301CB's, KBS Tours 120S Vokey SM8 48 10F, 52 08F, 56 08M, 60 08M Odyssey O-Works Jailbird Mini, Versa Scheme, 17" Fatso 3.0 Grip, 40" Jazz Tacoma Cart Bag Titleist Pro V1x Link to comment
cnosil Posted July 19, 2023 Share Posted July 19, 2023 54 minutes ago, Cole McCain said: Do you need a carts in gps device to connect with this app? No. Shotscope is its own separate thing. They have watch and non watch options. https://shotscope.com/us/ Since you said no watch, I’d look at the H4. 40 minutes ago, GolfSpy_APH said: No watch makes ShotScope less than ideal. The ShotScope h4 isn’t a watch. GolfSpy_APH 1 Quote Driver: G400 Max 9* w/ KBS Tour Driven Fairway: Paradym AI Smoke Max HL 16.5* w/MCA TENSEI AV Series Blue Hybrids: 915H 21* w/KBS Tour Graphite Hybrid Prototype 915H 24* w/KBS Tour Graphite Hybrid Prototype Irons: TR20V 6-11 w/Vizard TR20-85 Graphite Wedge: 54/12D, 60/8M w/Accra iWedge 90 Graphite Putter: Render w/VA Composites Baddazz Backup Putters: Sacks Parente MC 3 Stripe, Milled Collection RSX 2 Member: MGS Hitsquad since 2017 Link to comment
GolfSpy_APH Posted July 19, 2023 Share Posted July 19, 2023 6 minutes ago, cnosil said: No. Shotscope is its own separate thing. They have watch and non watch options. https://shotscope.com/us/ Since you said no watch, I’d look at the H4. The ShotScope h4 isn’t a watch. Good point forgot about the H4. cnosil 1 Quote as of Nov 6, 2023 (Past WITB) Driver: Paradym TD w/ GD ADDI 6X Driver Shootout! Wood: F7 3 wood 14.5* w/ Motore F1 Shaft Irons: T Series - T200 5 Iron T150 6-9 Iron T100 PW/GW Wedge: Toura Golf - A Spec 53,37,61 degree Putter: Mezz Max! Balls: Vice Pro Plus Drip (Blue/Orange) Link to comment
Dooby Posted July 19, 2023 Share Posted July 19, 2023 1 hour ago, Shlax said: Sorry to sort of hijack the thread, but I’m also looking for a stat tracking app. I have a Garmin Approach S60 watch and am 100% satisfied with it in terms of score keeping, distance/hazard/GPS measurements, club tracking, etc, but the performance/stats analysis tool in Garmin Golf simply doesn’t cut it and is very deficient. Is there an app that could use Garmin’s shot tracking data (club, distance, lie, etc) and analyze it in order to obtain representative strokes gained data and identify weak or strong areas of my game for example? Basically, keep using my Garmin watch as it is, but link it to another app that includes in-depth data analysis. Would love to know this as well as I have Garmin products but the Garmin golf app lacks in terms of data and analysis. Quote Driver: Aerojet LS (9.0) BRNR Mini Driver (13.5) Ai Smoke Max 5 Wood (18) or Apex X Forged Utility 2 iron (18) Pro 225 (4-PW) 52|08F , 56|12D , 60|10S , SM9 Jet Black Studio Design 2 Ball: Still Searching for My Perfect Gamer Previously Tested: BirdieBall 2-In-1 Putting/Hitting Mat Link to comment
gingerbeast87 Posted July 19, 2023 Share Posted July 19, 2023 I use the Garmin S60 golf/fitness watch. Found it to be pretty good in terms of shot detection. Ranges on the course are reliable, GPS tracking is on point as well. I enjoy using it as it means I don't need to look at my phone. Quote Ryan Gardiner Driver: Wilson Deep Red Maxx Woods: 3W Cobra speedzone Hybrid: 4H Cobra Speedzone Irons: Cobra King F8 5-9, PW, GW Wedges: Rife RX7 60:8 & 56:12 Putter: Odyssey White Hot Pro Hammer Link to comment
tony@CIC Posted July 19, 2023 Share Posted July 19, 2023 3 hours ago, Cole McCain said: Don’t like wearing the watch. Phone isn’t an issue. Shotscope has a belt clip type of device vs watch to capture data. https://shotscope.com/us/products/golf-gps-handhelds/h4/ Quote Left Hand orientation SIM 2 D Max with Fujikura Air Speeder Shaft Cobra Radspeed 3W/RIptide Shaft 410 Hybrids 22*, 26* Cobra Speed Zone 6-GP/Recoil ESX 460 F3 Shafts SM7 54* Wedge Glide 3.0 60* Wedge O Works putter V3 NX9-HD - 4 Wheel EZGO TXT 48v cart - too many shoes to list and so many to buy And BAG Boy Golf Balls: Vice Pro Plus 2020 Official Tester Beginning Driver Speed - 78 2019 Official Tester 410 Driver 2018 Official Tester C300 Link to comment
skraeling Posted July 19, 2023 Share Posted July 19, 2023 I will say I do have the H4 with the PROlx+ (I think its called) range finder. I use the absolute crap out of the H4 for a rough front middle back green reading. Sometimes ill shoot the pin with the actual finder, but 80% of the time its just the little H4 doing most of the heavy lifting. Also combined with my arccos stuff too. Quote Driver - Sim2Max 10.5° (set at 9*) UST Helium shaft 3W - StealthHL 16.5° 3h - Sim2max 19° irons - Sim2OS kbsmax85mt steel shafts reg flex 5i-Aw wedgies - Jaws MD5 52°-10° (Bounce) S Grind Jaws MD5 56°-12° (Bounce) W Grind Putter - Mizuno OMOI Type II VENTUS Velocore+ review Stack Referral code Final Sugar "Pure" Golf Balls Review Link to comment
Millwrightofgolf Posted July 19, 2023 Share Posted July 19, 2023 Don’t like wearing the watch. Phone isn’t an issue. I agree, I used the phone for a season with the Arccos app. Had to keep your phone in your pocket while shooting, which wasn’t an issue. I started to use the watch with Golf Shot to record swing data. It’s actually turning out to be quite useful. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Quote Golf addict, try to play everyday if I can. Link to comment
skraeling Posted July 20, 2023 Share Posted July 20, 2023 Also... your luck with the arccos link may vary. Mine worked for a bit then just stopped picking up shots, its replacement also failed to do so. Went back to phone in pocket and it will at most miss a tap in putt or occasionally pick up me setting a club down, but thats easy to notice. Quote Driver - Sim2Max 10.5° (set at 9*) UST Helium shaft 3W - StealthHL 16.5° 3h - Sim2max 19° irons - Sim2OS kbsmax85mt steel shafts reg flex 5i-Aw wedgies - Jaws MD5 52°-10° (Bounce) S Grind Jaws MD5 56°-12° (Bounce) W Grind Putter - Mizuno OMOI Type II VENTUS Velocore+ review Stack Referral code Final Sugar "Pure" Golf Balls Review Link to comment
BH18 Posted July 24, 2023 Share Posted July 24, 2023 Question for Apple Watch users - if you use an app like 18birdies or the Grint from your phone, does it get the GPS info from your phone? Meaning you’d have to keep your phone in your pocket and not in your bag/cart? Quote Driver: Tour Edge E722 Fairway Woods: Callaway Epic Flash Irons: Callaway Steelhead XR Wedges: Sub 70 Putter: Sik Flo Link to comment
Millwrightofgolf Posted July 24, 2023 Share Posted July 24, 2023 4 minutes ago, BH18 said: Question for Apple Watch users - if you use an app like 18birdies or the Grint from your phone, does it get the GPS info from your phone? Meaning you’d have to keep your phone in your pocket and not in your bag/cart? I use my Apple Watch with golf shot. Your phone just needs to be within Bluetooth range, you have 40-50feet of leeway. My phone stays on my cart and my yardages are displayed on the watch. Golf shot also tracks swing parameters through the Apple Watch. hope this help! cheers, Travis Quote Golf addict, try to play everyday if I can. Link to comment
BH18 Posted July 24, 2023 Share Posted July 24, 2023 4 minutes ago, Millwrightofgolf said: Your phone just needs to be within Bluetooth range, you have 40-50feet of leeway. But my question is, is the yardage displayed on the watch the distance from the green to your watch, or the green to your phone? My daughter was trying this out yesterday and was skeptical of some of the numbers she was getting. Quote Driver: Tour Edge E722 Fairway Woods: Callaway Epic Flash Irons: Callaway Steelhead XR Wedges: Sub 70 Putter: Sik Flo Link to comment
Millwrightofgolf Posted July 24, 2023 Share Posted July 24, 2023 1 minute ago, BH18 said: But my question is, is the yardage displayed on the watch the distance from the green to your watch, or the green to your phone? My daughter was trying this out yesterday and was skeptical of some of the numbers she was getting. Oh I see! I think that depends on which watch you have. Some have internal GPS and some don’t. My old Apple Watch did not have gps and the info came from the phone but with my new series 7 the GPS data is taken from the watch. Quote Golf addict, try to play everyday if I can. Link to comment
BH18 Posted July 24, 2023 Share Posted July 24, 2023 4 minutes ago, Millwrightofgolf said: depends on which watch you have. Some have internal GPS and some don’t. Thanks for the info. Currently have a Garmin watch, but exploring my options for when that dies. Quote Driver: Tour Edge E722 Fairway Woods: Callaway Epic Flash Irons: Callaway Steelhead XR Wedges: Sub 70 Putter: Sik Flo Link to comment
Hacker60521 Posted July 24, 2023 Share Posted July 24, 2023 @Shlax and @Dooby I use the Garmin S60 and added the CT10 sensors this season. I don’t think adding the sensors adds any more data or analysis to the Garmin Golf app. If anything I’m seeing that the data isn’t very helpful for figuring out distances for clubs since it doesn’t seem to do a good job with shots under yards. So a 30 yard chip with a 7I pulls down your 7I full swing distance. I also have issues with the putter since it can’t always figure out when I’m done putting. So I have a 200 yard putt in my stats. I’ve asked Garmin and I can’t go back to delete shots from the data set without screwing up my scorecards. Curious how other systems deal with stuff like this. Quote Driver: Stealth2 3W: Stealth2 4H: Stealth 2 Irons 4I-9I: T200 Wedges P, 48: T200 Wedges 54, 58: Vokey SM9 Putter: O Works #1 Black Link to comment
cnosil Posted July 24, 2023 Share Posted July 24, 2023 29 minutes ago, Hacker60521 said: If anything I’m seeing that the data isn’t very helpful for figuring out distances for clubs since it doesn’t seem to do a good job with shots under yards. So a 30 yard chip with a 7I pulls down your 7I full swing distance. I also have issues with the putter since it can’t always figure out when I’m done putting. So I have a 200 yard putt in my stats. I’ve asked Garmin and I can’t go back to delete shots from the data set without screwing up my scorecards. Curious how other systems deal with stuff like this. Shotscope uses outlier detection, the ability to mark shots as positional, and separating out shots within 50 yards of the green as short game and not full swing. No system is perfect since they don’t always understand your intent; you have to figure out the nuances. The additional difficult with distances is that it measures total distance and not carry distances so things like elevation changes and rollout will influence the values. Quote Driver: G400 Max 9* w/ KBS Tour Driven Fairway: Paradym AI Smoke Max HL 16.5* w/MCA TENSEI AV Series Blue Hybrids: 915H 21* w/KBS Tour Graphite Hybrid Prototype 915H 24* w/KBS Tour Graphite Hybrid Prototype Irons: TR20V 6-11 w/Vizard TR20-85 Graphite Wedge: 54/12D, 60/8M w/Accra iWedge 90 Graphite Putter: Render w/VA Composites Baddazz Backup Putters: Sacks Parente MC 3 Stripe, Milled Collection RSX 2 Member: MGS Hitsquad since 2017 Link to comment
APFA2315 Posted July 25, 2023 Share Posted July 25, 2023 I use a Garmin Venu watch and the Garmin Golf app…it’s very useful when you’re on the course (when the watch works). I hate fiddling with my phone during a round so I do love having a watch. However, the app itself is terrible. If you want anything more than even the most simplistic, barebones stat-tracking after a round you should look basically anywhere else. It gives you next to no data and lacks even the basic ability to look at results from individual shots or clubs. Really disappointing and seems completely unsupported by Garmin at this point. Quote Driver: Callaway Mavrik 9* 3W: Titleist TS1 13.5* 5 Wood: TaylorMade Burner 18* 3h/4h: Adams IdeaTech A4 19*/22* Irons: Cobra Forged Tec (5-P) Wedges: Cobra Forged Tec 50*, Vokey SM7 M Grind 54*/60* Putter: PXG Battle Ready Bat Attack Link to comment
Golf2Much Posted July 25, 2023 Share Posted July 25, 2023 Since you are an 8 handicap, you likely need something a little more robust than the standard basic stats. As others mentioned, I'm a fan of the Shot Scope H4. I've been using it for just about a year (was an MGS Shot Scope Pro LX+ tester which included the H4) and I found it was easy to use, gave me the club distances I was looking for and the statistics yielded important insights into my game. I do have to edit rounds at time. Often, I just forget to tag my clubs and manually tagging your putts can sometimes not be in the right place. At $129 with no subscription fee, it's a bargain. Cole McCain 1 Quote Ping G430 Max driver 10.5 degrees with an Alta Quick45 gram senior shaft Callaway Epic 3 wood, Project X Evenflow Green 45 gram senior shaft Callaway GBB Epic Heavenwood, with a Mitsubishi Diamana 50 gram senior shaft Ping G 20.5 degree 7 wood, with a stock Alta 65 gram senior shaft Ping G 26 degree hybrid, stock Alta 65 gram senior shaft Callaway Paradym X irons, 7-AW with Aldila Ascent Blue 50 graphite shafts Edison wedges: 50, 55 and 60 degree, KBS Tour Graphite A flex shafts Putters: L.A.B. Direct Force 2.1 putter, 34.5" long, 67 degrees lie MSG Tester: Shot Scope LX+ Rangefinder MGS Tester: Callaway Paradym X Irons MSG Tester: Titleist Long Game Link to comment
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