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I never put a ton of faith in any of those "hot Lists". Especially with putters. The putter is the most subjective club in the bag, and I find it hard to imagine buying one on someone's recommendation.

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Putters are way too subjective for this to matter a lot, and I don't think much of the big magazines' reviews anyway. Finally, it seems like they didn't test too many putters. Maybe I just think that because I'm into all the custom makers who are unrepresented.

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How about testing for aim. You can just use a laser for that. It's kind of important last time I checked with putting.

 

 

 

 

 

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I guess it is a nice way for someone who is unsure of what it out there to get an idea about what to look for. Nice that they tied in their reviews from other sections. Seemed honest too. Sory of a negative comment about the squareback 2 needing more oomph to get the ball to the hole. Did not see any Byron or MIlls or other small batch putters though. :rolleyes:

 

Choosing a putter is so subjective though. They should have a running header that says "Don't buy any putter without demoing it first!"

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last year when I was looking to buy my first putter I looked at all the reviews I could find before I started shopping. I figured I would go into it with an advantage...

 

Then I walked into the store and all that research went out the window... I had to try about 20 putters before I found the one that worked the best for me... and it was one of the ones I never even considered to start...

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with putters, you really have to roll it before you own it.

Driver - :taylormade-small:   Stealth 9° Graphite Design Tour AD XC Stiff
Fairway - Cannot find one worth a dang

Hybrid - :srixon-small: ZX 16° & 18° GD Tour IZ S

2 Iron - :srixon-small: ZU65 18° AeroTech SteelFiber 110icw S

Irons -  :srixon-small: ZX7  Aerotech SteelFiber 110icw  4-Pw 1° flat
Wedges - :cleveland-small: RTX Zipcore Raw 50° 54° 58°  TTGDTI S400 1° flat

Putters -  Ping PLD Anser (inbound)  Evnroll ER1V/Cameron Phantom 5x/Odyssey Toulon Stroke Lab Austin/Odyssey 2 Ball DFX/ TaylorMade Spider Tour Black/Ping Anser F/Scotty Cameron TeI3 Sole Stamp Newport 2. All with different grips, weights, and lengths.
 

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One thing about this year's Club Test...

 

I was really glad to see so many smaller companies represented - SeeMore, Yes, Rife, Heavy, etc. I was starting to wonder if lesser known brands that lack huge marketing budgets can even compete in the golf industry these days.

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Ok here is my take and it might be because I am slightly biased...I am a Club tester for Golf Magazine. I didn't participate in the putter test though.

 

First thing, there is a lot of effort and work that goes into the testing. People don't just go out there and grab a putter and start putting. I have tested putters in the past and we were fit for them as the OEM's sent plenty of models to test. Then we putted from different ranges so we could see how each putter felt from short, medium and long distances. ClubTest is a large undertaking and the work put in is outstanding.

 

As for the custom putter makers...look at it this way. They make a majority of their putters when customers order them so if they were to be involved they would have to crank out a large amount of putters to send in so they could be tested by each tester and with every tester being different there would have to be multiple choices of each design.

 

Just my take on it though.

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Ok here is my take and it might be because I am slightly biased...I am a Club tester for Golf Magazine. I didn't participate in the putter test though.

 

First thing, there is a lot of effort and work that goes into the testing. People don't just go out there and grab a putter and start putting. I have tested putters in the past and we were fit for them as the OEM's sent plenty of models to test. Then we putted from different ranges so we could see how each putter felt from short, medium and long distances. ClubTest is a large undertaking and the work put in is outstanding.

 

As for the custom putter makers...look at it this way. They make a majority of their putters when customers order them so if they were to be involved they would have to crank out a large amount of putters to send in so they could be tested by each tester and with every tester being different there would have to be multiple choices of each design.

 

Just my take on it though.

That is so cool! This always seemed like a fun thing to do. Of course the testing has to be controlled. I think is always comes down to "What about...?"

TP Mills made the GD list last year. Does that happen because they ask GD, or did GD seek them out?

A day spent putting with everything sounds too good to be true.

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Ok here is my take and it might be because I am slightly biased...I am a Club tester for Golf Magazine. I didn't participate in the putter test though.

 

First thing, there is a lot of effort and work that goes into the testing. People don't just go out there and grab a putter and start putting. I have tested putters in the past and we were fit for them as the OEM's sent plenty of models to test. Then we putted from different ranges so we could see how each putter felt from short, medium and long distances. ClubTest is a large undertaking and the work put in is outstanding.

 

As for the custom putter makers...look at it this way. They make a majority of their putters when customers order them so if they were to be involved they would have to crank out a large amount of putters to send in so they could be tested by each tester and with every tester being different there would have to be multiple choices of each design.

 

Just my take on it though.

 

Cool! How did you get hooked up with that (if you don't mind sharing)? Thanks for the insight into the process.

 

I feel like I was probably overly harsh in my initial assessment. I think that big club tests like this are helpful for lots of golfers. There are times when I forget that I'm in the extreme minority when it comes to caring/knowing about equipment. Also, it's not realistic for them to review putters from 10 different custom houses that the average golfer won't even consider based on price & lack of marketing. One thing I really like is their emphasis on "See-Try-Buy" which fits in well with the things that everyone is saying here: "You need to test it first."

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Ok here is my take and it might be because I am slightly biased...I am a Club tester for Golf Magazine. I didn't participate in the putter test though.

 

First thing, there is a lot of effort and work that goes into the testing. People don't just go out there and grab a putter and start putting. I have tested putters in the past and we were fit for them as the OEM's sent plenty of models to test. Then we putted from different ranges so we could see how each putter felt from short, medium and long distances. ClubTest is a large undertaking and the work put in is outstanding.

 

As for the custom putter makers...look at it this way. They make a majority of their putters when customers order them so if they were to be involved they would have to crank out a large amount of putters to send in so they could be tested by each tester and with every tester being different there would have to be multiple choices of each design.

 

Just my take on it though.

 

I blogged on A2G about a post that Tom Wishon made on his site's board that described how ridiculously random and advertiser driven the Golf Digest process has become. Its good to hear that Golf Magazine may be taking a different approach.

 

If you don't mind me asking and I've always wondered about this... how does one become a Club Tester for Golf Magazine?

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That is so cool! This always seemed like a fun thing to do. Of course the testing has to be controlled. I think is always comes down to "What about...?"

TP Mills made the GD list last year. Does that happen because they ask GD, or did GD seek them out?

A day spent putting with everything sounds too good to be true.

 

I think GD tests a lot more clubs than the ones that make the list, only the ones they give a gold or silver to make the list.

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That is so cool! This always seemed like a fun thing to do. Of course the testing has to be controlled. I think is always comes down to "What about...?"

TP Mills made the GD list last year. Does that happen because they ask GD, or did GD seek them out?

A day spent putting with everything sounds too good to be true.

 

For my past experience the companies are contacted and then asked to send what they would like to be tested.

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Cool! How did you get hooked up with that (if you don't mind sharing)? Thanks for the insight into the process.

 

I feel like I was probably overly harsh in my initial assessment. I think that big club tests like this are helpful for lots of golfers. There are times when I forget that I'm in the extreme minority when it comes to caring/knowing about equipment. Also, it's not realistic for them to review putters from 10 different custom houses that the average golfer won't even consider based on price & lack of marketing. One thing I really like is their emphasis on "See-Try-Buy" which fits in well with the things that everyone is saying here: "You need to test it first."

 

I have a lot of buddies who know that I have done this for a while now and people at the courses I play know as well. The one thing I get asked all the time is "what did you test that I should buy?". I always respond the same way...I tell them what I tested might not always be suited for them or if I didn't like it they might love it. I tell them that they don't need to go strictly by the articles and that they need to go out and test the clubs for themselves.

 

The See-Try-Buy is one of the best things they have added to the whole piece in a while!

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I think GD tests a lot more clubs than the ones that make the list, only the ones they give a gold or silver to make the list.

 

That is correct. There are hundreds of clubs that don't make the magazine because they didn't meet GD's criteria.

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I blogged on A2G about a post that Tom Wishon made on his site's board that described how ridiculously random and advertiser driven the Golf Digest process has become. Its good to hear that Golf Magazine may be taking a different approach.

 

If you don't mind me asking and I've always wondered about this... how does one become a Club Tester for Golf Magazine?

 

I became a club tester on a wind of luck, basically. My story is that one day I was on the Golf Magazine website about 6 years ago and saw a link about club testing. I clicked on it out of curiosity and I filled out what I will call an "Application" in which I had to review a few clubs from my own bag. I sent that in and then a few weeks later I got an e-mail asking me to send in a video of my swing. I thought that would be the deal breaker because my swing is by no means pretty in any sense. Needless to say, I went to the range and filmed it then I sent it in. A few more weeks later I got another e-mail saying welcome aboard!

 

I have done this now for 5 years now and it is a great experience! I have developed a lot of close friendships out of our network of testers from across the country. I'm not going to say that it isn't a lot of hard work, because it is. It isn't just hitting golf balls because if you don't like writing then you will hate it.

 

I normally don't discuss it in forums because there have been some who discuss it and never get to go back, but those are the people who talk about the clubs before the articles are out. I would never do that, but when people discuss the process and other items I am more than happy to defend the process because I think it is very effective!

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I became a club tester on a wind of luck, basically. My story is that one day I was on the Golf Magazine website about 6 years ago and saw a link about club testing. I clicked on it out of curiosity and I filled out what I will call an "Application" in which I had to review a few clubs from my own bag. I sent that in and then a few weeks later I got an e-mail asking me to send in a video of my swing. I thought that would be the deal breaker because my swing is by no means pretty in any sense. Needless to say, I went to the range and filmed it then I sent it in. A few more weeks later I got another e-mail saying welcome aboard!

 

I have done this now for 5 years now and it is a great experience! I have developed a lot of close friendships out of our network of testers from across the country. I'm not going to say that it isn't a lot of hard work, because it is. It isn't just hitting golf balls because if you don't like writing then you will hate it.

 

I normally don't discuss it in forums because there have been some who discuss it and never get to go back, but those are the people who talk about the clubs before the articles are out. I would never do that, but when people discuss the process and other items I am more than happy to defend the process because I think it is very effective!

Thanks for sharing the process. Secret club info not required. I don't think that talking about it like this would blacklist you from going back. Your non-disclosure agreement is intact. :)

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I became a club tester on a wind of luck, basically. My story is that one day I was on the Golf Magazine website about 6 years ago and saw a link about club testing. I clicked on it out of curiosity and I filled out what I will call an "Application" in which I had to review a few clubs from my own bag. I sent that in and then a few weeks later I got an e-mail asking me to send in a video of my swing. I thought that would be the deal breaker because my swing is by no means pretty in any sense. Needless to say, I went to the range and filmed it then I sent it in. A few more weeks later I got another e-mail saying welcome aboard!

 

I have done this now for 5 years now and it is a great experience! I have developed a lot of close friendships out of our network of testers from across the country. I'm not going to say that it isn't a lot of hard work, because it is. It isn't just hitting golf balls because if you don't like writing then you will hate it.

 

I normally don't discuss it in forums because there have been some who discuss it and never get to go back, but those are the people who talk about the clubs before the articles are out. I would never do that, but when people discuss the process and other items I am more than happy to defend the process because I think it is very effective!

 

That's interesting stuff. Thanks for sharing.

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Cobra Baffler Rail H Hybrid 22* Fujikura Motore

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Thanks for sharing the process. Secret club info not required. I don't think that talking about it like this would blacklist you from going back. Your non-disclosure agreement is intact. :)

 

I don't see an issue in talking about the process so I am not worried and even if I never got to go back to ClubTest I still have the past 5 years to look back on for the experiences.

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