jeetz Posted February 7 Share Posted February 7 I play an old Callaway XR 9.0 degree driver and hit it really well...in particilar i love the feel/load of the shaft. Does anyone know if there is a shaft today that has similar characteristics to the Project X LZ 6.0? William P 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GolfSpy_APH Posted February 7 Share Posted February 7 Are you buying a new driver? The option of keeping the same shaft is possible! Stay within the project X family. They now how Lz versions but in iron shafts. RDX Smoke Red or Blue could be possible options (I'm a big fan of the blue personally). It is also possible with a different head there will be different feels or similar feels with the same shaft profile. If possible be sure to test and bring your driver in to compare! William P, TJ Hall, JMarsh1510 and 1 other 4 Quote as of Nov 6, 2023 (Past WITB) Driver: Paradym TD w/ GD ADDI 6X Driver Shootout! Wood: F7 3 wood 14.5* w/ Motore F1 Shaft Irons: T Series - T200 5 Iron T150 6-9 Iron T100 PW/GW Wedge: Toura Golf - A Spec 53,37,61 degree Putter: Mezz Max! Balls: Vice Pro Plus Drip (Blue/Orange) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erin B Posted February 7 Share Posted February 7 I am a HUGE fan of Project X and have played the LZ shaft for years up until my old PXG irons. I am now in the Project X IO shafts in my New Level irons. I am still getting used to them. I like them, and I like the lower ball flight. But I love the LZ! The verdict is still out on the IOs, but I wanted to try them and am ready to change to the LZs if needed. Right now I am leaning on keeping the IOs. We will see after the Mesquite week in March. TJ Hall, jeetz, tdroma98 and 1 other 4 Quote I could play golf every day and learn something new each time. Driver: Paradym TD 9* or EPIC Max LS 10.5* or 425LST 9* Woods: Mini or Mini BRNR Hybrids: 3H, 4H, 5H Irons: 902PD Wedges: Vokey SM10 48, 52, 56* Putter: Black MiniGiant Ball: Pro V1X or Chrome TourX https://forum.mygolfspy.com/topic/63746-motocaddy-m-series-carts-2024-forum-member-review/?do=findComment&comment=1042686 https://forum.mygolfspy.com/topic/62621-forum-member-reviews-callaway-whitebox-testing/?do=findComment&comment=1020558 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeetz Posted February 7 Author Share Posted February 7 Great to hear they're are other fans of the project x lz. I do want to buy a new driver as I assume that the new tech could add some distance. Last year I bought the TSi2 driver with a hzdus shaft but I really struggled with it, so I eventually gave up and went back to my Callaway XR with the project X shaft. William P and TJ Hall 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GolfSpy_BOS Posted February 7 Share Posted February 7 Based on what I know from the LZ irons shafts it's supposed to be a good feeling shaft, which usually translates to "feel" or "not-as-stiff" in the handle. The Iron shaft in particular has a softer mid to enhance feel. Also given you struggled with the HZRDUS line I'd suggest trying out the "blue" profile shafts when you demo... something like a Tensei Blue, Ventus Blue, etc. While not standard, blue seems to be the color of choice for middle of the road in stiffness vs feel. White profiles tend to add some tip stability while maintaining or even softening the handle section. HZRDUS line will most closely link to "black" profiles where the handle is stiff for aggressive swingers. They don't agree with me either. Best thing to do is go to a shop and try out what you can to get an idea, then go for a fitting once you're ready to make a purchase. jeetz, TJ Hall, tdroma98 and 1 other 4 Quote Qi10 - Terra Forza White | Speedzone 5-wood - Ventus Blue 8S | G430 3-Hybrid - Kai'li White 80s SMS Pro 4-PW - Steelfiber i110S | MG3 Raw Black 50.09, 54.11, 58.11 - DG TI S200 Mezz Max | Pro V1x | Vortex Blade | Ghost Maverick Black Ops - Forum Edition | CaddyLite EZ v8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BallsLeon Posted February 7 Share Posted February 7 (edited) Potentially Modus shafts? I know my 120 stiffs seem to feel softer than other stiff steel shafts. Edit: Oops nvm, probably don’t want a steel shafted driver Edited February 7 by BallsLeon William P and GolfSpy_BOS 2 Quote Driver : GBB Epic, 10.5° loft, autoFlex Dream7, SF405x flex (44.75") 3-Wood: Rogue ST LS, 15° loft, MCA TENSEI AV Blue 65g, Reg flex (42.25", tipped 0.5") 3-Hybrid: Z H85, 19° loft, HZRDUS Black 85g, 5.5 flex Irons: T350 5i & T200 6i-GW, 23°-48° lofts, Nippon Modus3 120g, Stiff flex (+0.5”, 1° upright) Wedges: JB Forged Raw 54° & 58° lofts, Nippon Modus3 120g, Reg flex (+0.5/0.25", 0.5° upright) Putter: DS72 C, 35”, PP60 grip Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GolfSpy_BOS Posted February 7 Share Posted February 7 2 minutes ago, BallsLeon said: Potentially Modus shafts? I know my 120 stiffs seem to feel softer than other stiff steel shafts. Edit: Oops nvm, probably don’t want a steel shafted driver I'd be lying if I didn't see Project X LZ and come here to say Modus 120x. haha Now that would make for an interesting driver setup! William P, jeetz and BallsLeon 1 2 Quote Qi10 - Terra Forza White | Speedzone 5-wood - Ventus Blue 8S | G430 3-Hybrid - Kai'li White 80s SMS Pro 4-PW - Steelfiber i110S | MG3 Raw Black 50.09, 54.11, 58.11 - DG TI S200 Mezz Max | Pro V1x | Vortex Blade | Ghost Maverick Black Ops - Forum Edition | CaddyLite EZ v8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donn lost in San Diego Posted February 7 Share Posted February 7 Opening a can o worms. I am far from expert, but I always have to hit balls to decide. So many shafts, yet I feel great with one and not great with 6 others, and I can't predict what brand or model. Although I am on my 2nd set of irons with UST Recoil F3 flex. The 2nd set is a newer model of the Recoil though. Both times it felt like melted butter. Quote #1 PXG 0211 10.5 deg, Evnflo Riptide CB 40 gram A flex. 3W: Callaway Steelhead Xr, Tensei Blue CK 55 gram A flex. 5W : Titleist TSi 1, Aldila Ascent 40 regular flex. Driving Iron: Mizuno MP 18 MMC Fli-Hi 3i 18 degree, Recoil 95 reg flex. 4 iron: GFF Mizuno Fly-Hi, 24 degree forged hollow body, Aerotech Steelfiber . 5 Hybrid: Mizuno (2017) JPX Fli-Hi wave tech, Recoil ESX 460 reg flex. Irons: 6 - PW: Ping I 500, on Recoil Smacwrap ES 760, reg flex. Wedges: 2 x Mizuno S5 52/09. 1@ 50 deg, 1@ 54 deg; New (July 2024) Mizu ES 21, 58 x 08, jet black. Chipper: Don Martin "Up n In" brass/bronze. Putter: Odyssey Stroke Lab "R" Ball, face balanced, with 2 piece Stroke Lab multi material shaft. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeetz Posted February 7 Author Share Posted February 7 @GolfSpy BOS this is brilliant advice. I has the Hzdrous Black shaft and it felt so stiff and boardy.....I will definitely check out the "BLUE" families Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GolfSpy_BOS Posted February 7 Share Posted February 7 3 minutes ago, jeetz said: @GolfSpy BOS this is brilliant advice. I has the Hzdrous Black shaft and it felt so stiff and boardy.....I will definitely check out the "BLUE" families No worries. As some others have mentioned, company to company you'll find differences, but in the big picture the "Blue" tends to be the middle ground. Then you can work from there. It's not perfect, but it's a start! GolfSpy_APH 1 Quote Qi10 - Terra Forza White | Speedzone 5-wood - Ventus Blue 8S | G430 3-Hybrid - Kai'li White 80s SMS Pro 4-PW - Steelfiber i110S | MG3 Raw Black 50.09, 54.11, 58.11 - DG TI S200 Mezz Max | Pro V1x | Vortex Blade | Ghost Maverick Black Ops - Forum Edition | CaddyLite EZ v8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NM01 Posted February 7 Share Posted February 7 There isn’t a wood shaft similar to the PX LZ. Some counterbalanced options that might work are the px hzrdus rdx blue, tensei orange. Some higher balance point shafts would be Aldila rogue. If you don’t want something this is as stiff and stout as the hzrdus black then there are lots of blue profile options from graphite design, tensei raw blue, Diamana tb. the best bet if you are planning to get a new driver is to find a reputable fitter and let them get you on the right head including loft and shaft Nolan220 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erin B Posted February 7 Share Posted February 7 22 minutes ago, RickyBobby_PR said: There isn’t a wood shaft similar to the PX LZ. Some counterbalanced options that might work are the px hzrdus rdx blue, tensei orange. Some higher balance point shafts would be Aldila rogue. If you don’t want something this is as stiff and stout as the hzrdus black then there are lots of blue profile options from graphite design, tensei raw blue, Diamana tb. the best bet if you are planning to get a new driver is to find a reputable fitter and let them get you on the right head including loft and shaft I really like the Aldila shaft too. The old green shaft was great for me, but since I moved on to the Steadfast Jupiter and now am trying the Newton shafts for drivers/woods, I haven't really been into big manufacture's shafts. Quote I could play golf every day and learn something new each time. Driver: Paradym TD 9* or EPIC Max LS 10.5* or 425LST 9* Woods: Mini or Mini BRNR Hybrids: 3H, 4H, 5H Irons: 902PD Wedges: Vokey SM10 48, 52, 56* Putter: Black MiniGiant Ball: Pro V1X or Chrome TourX https://forum.mygolfspy.com/topic/63746-motocaddy-m-series-carts-2024-forum-member-review/?do=findComment&comment=1042686 https://forum.mygolfspy.com/topic/62621-forum-member-reviews-callaway-whitebox-testing/?do=findComment&comment=1020558 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
storm319 Posted February 8 Share Posted February 8 7 hours ago, RickyBobby_PR said: There isn’t a wood shaft similar to the PX LZ. Some counterbalanced options that might work are the px hzrdus rdx blue, tensei orange. Some higher balance point shafts would be Aldila rogue. If you don’t want something this is as stiff and stout as the hzrdus black then there are lots of blue profile options from graphite design, tensei raw blue, Diamana tb. the best bet if you are planning to get a new driver is to find a reputable fitter and let them get you on the right head including loft and shaft I believe the XR stock offering was a made for version of the LZ Blue (lighter, softer, higher torque), so not really sure what would be similar (definitely not anything from the HZRDUS line). Either way, 100% agree that getting fit is better than trying to find something similar to a shaft that may not even be an optimal fit now. Quote Driver: Titleist TS2 9.5 Fairway: Tour Edge CB4 Tour 16.5 Irons: Titleist 690.CB 3-PW Wedges: Titleist Vokey SM5 50, 56 Putter: Odyssey Works Versa 1W Ball: Vice Pro Plus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tdroma98 Posted February 14 Share Posted February 14 On 2/7/2024 at 11:48 AM, GolfSpy BOS said: HZRDUS line will most closely link to "black" profiles where the handle is stiff for aggressive swingers. They don't agree with me either. I've become a fan of the HZRDUS Black 6.0 Driver Shaft. I thought it would be too stiff, but turns out it's the best driver shaft I've played. Haven't tried the LZ shafts, but used to play Project X 6.0 iron shafts and really liked them. Then was fitted for Elevate Shafts, did not like them. Latest fitting was AMT Black iron shafts in T200's, over the LZ shaft. I was suspect of the AMT Black after the Elevate, but I like the feel. GolfSpy_BOS 1 Quote Titleist T200 Irons - 5i thru Gap Wedge - Stiff AMT Black Callaway PARADYM X 9.0 with Hazrdous X Black 6.0 Stiff Shaft Fairway Woods: Callaway Maverick 3W & RazrX Black 5W - Stiff Flex Rescue: Apex 4 (22 degree )- Recoil 75H stiff flex Wedges: Titleist SM8 - 54 (D Grind) wedge flex; SM8 58(M grind) wedge flex Putter: Scotty Cameron Phantom X5.5 Ball: Titleist ProV1 Handicap: 0 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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