CarlH Posted May 10, 2021 Share Posted May 10, 2021 1 hour ago, chisag said: ... Not to be Captain Obvious and again most on a golf forum are usually pretty knowledgeable about the basics but I hope you guys are choking down on your clubs when standing closer to the ball for chips and pitches. Not talking about full swings but the amount of people I see that do not choke up for chips/pitches is just mind boggling. Definitely! tony@CIC, GolfSpy_SHARK, fozcycle and 3 others 6 Quote Driver: Rogue ST Max (10.5* set at -1 and neutral) -- Mitsubishi Tensai Blue 55g R shaft Fairway: Rogue ST Max 3 wood (16.5*) and Heaven Wood (20*)-- Tensai Blue 55g R shaft Hybrids: Rogue ST Max 5H (23*)--Tensai Blue 55g R shaft Irons: Apex CF19 6-9, PW, AW -- KBS Tour Graphite TGI 70 shafts R +1/2 inch 3* upright Wedges: Edison 53* and 57* KBS PGI 80 Graphite +1/2 inch 2* upright Putter: L.A.B. DF 2.1 -- BGT Stability shaft Ball: Maxfli TourX...Golf Bag: Pioneer...Shoes: Hyperflex... Glove: Red Rooster Feather My Photography can be seen at Smugmug Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cnosil Posted May 10, 2021 Share Posted May 10, 2021 10 hours ago, chisag said: ... Not to be Captain Obvious and again most on a golf forum are usually pretty knowledgeable about the basics but I hope you guys are choking down on your clubs when standing closer to the ball for chips and pitches. Not talking about full swings but the amount of people I see that do not choke up for chips/pitches is just mind boggling. Probably getting off topic a bit, but your post makes it seem like everyone should do this all the time. Did some searching and can’t really find anything that says it is required or an obvious thing. I understand it could provide more control but your captain obvious makes it seem like a best practice and everyone does it all the time As examples, here are some videos of non choked down. Not trying to knock what you are saying, trying to learn james ridyard: short game coach Tiger woods james sieckmann: short game coach https://www.facebook.com/titleist/videos/408455400331163/ phil mickelson tony@CIC, Kenny B, Rickp and 5 others 6 2 Quote Driver: G400 Max 9* w/ KBS Tour Driven Fairway: TS3 15* w/Project X Hzardous Smoke Hybrids: 915H 21* w/KBS Tour Graphite Hybrid Prototype 915H 24* w/KBS Tour Graphite Hybrid Prototype Irons: TR20V 6-11 w/Vizard TR20-85 Graphite Wedge: 54/12D, 60/8M w/:Accra iWedge 90 Graphite Putter: TM-180 Testing: Backups: Milled Collection RSX 2, mFGP2, Futura 5W Member: MGS Hitsquad since 2017 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GolfSpy_SHARK Posted May 10, 2021 Share Posted May 10, 2021 11 hours ago, cnosil said: Closer worked well for full swing and for chips. I just need to get the pitches figured out when I am on the course. It worked okay on the range I wish my range play was my course play cksurfdude, sirchunksalot, BKordon and 3 others 6 Quote Check out my reviews: G710 Irons Official Review I MC Shaft & V Series Putter Official Review 2022 Forged Tec's Official Review I Nitron Push Cart Official Review WITB: Weapons of grass destruction (link to WITB) Traverse is filled with all this shiny metal and tracked by RadSpeed 8* - MotoreX F1 6X SIM 3W - Project X HZRDUS Green U505 Driving Iron 17* - Project X HZRDUS Black SpeedZone 4H - Project X HZRDUS Black 2022 King Forged Tec's 4-PW - KBS $ Tape 130 48 (SM8), 52 & 60 (SM7) - Nippon Modus 125 S ER2VI PROV1X #19 Are you a veteran? Check out the Veterans Golf Association (VGA) Thread! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GolfSpy_SHARK Posted May 10, 2021 Share Posted May 10, 2021 10 hours ago, chisag said: ... Not to be Captain Obvious and again most on a golf forum are usually pretty knowledgeable about the basics but I hope you guys are choking down on your clubs when standing closer to the ball for chips and pitches. Not talking about full swings but the amount of people I see that do not choke up for chips/pitches is just mind boggling. Nope not obvious, I consciously am not sure if I do or not TBO? I’m going to have to pay attention and see if I actually do choke down on my around the green play.....that’s alarming that I don’t know.... BKordon, Kenny B, tony@CIC and 2 others 3 1 1 Quote Check out my reviews: G710 Irons Official Review I MC Shaft & V Series Putter Official Review 2022 Forged Tec's Official Review I Nitron Push Cart Official Review WITB: Weapons of grass destruction (link to WITB) Traverse is filled with all this shiny metal and tracked by RadSpeed 8* - MotoreX F1 6X SIM 3W - Project X HZRDUS Green U505 Driving Iron 17* - Project X HZRDUS Black SpeedZone 4H - Project X HZRDUS Black 2022 King Forged Tec's 4-PW - KBS $ Tape 130 48 (SM8), 52 & 60 (SM7) - Nippon Modus 125 S ER2VI PROV1X #19 Are you a veteran? Check out the Veterans Golf Association (VGA) Thread! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrBandit Posted May 10, 2021 Share Posted May 10, 2021 Played a tournament round down in Harbor Lakes, Granbury, TX. It was a very tough day to play in steady 20-25mphs winds, it was hard to even swing in the tee box as your body kept on moving and putting well, they lost their greens do to the frost, and it was either padded down dirt or somewhat a resembled of grass and the ball moving. I did have some wind assist putts that went in , pass it 1 to 2 in and the wind blew it back into the hole, those were they highlights of making a 6 instead of a 7. Thanks wind.. Playing in the wind takes you out of your normal game, you know you not suppose to swing harder but you can't talk your self out of it. Trying to hit shots further back in your stand, created some power shanks while trying to hit harder because of the wind. Am surprise I was able to score what I did, and came in 4th. I know there were at least 2-3 people didn't break 100. Not a pretty score card. sirchunksalot, cksurfdude, MattF and 5 others 8 Quote Driver: TaylorMade Qi10 MAX - 8.5 with Fujikura Speeder NX TCS 50 (secondary shaft HRDZ Black 6.0 Stiff) 3 -Wood: Sub70 949x 3 Wood 15 with Hrdz RDX Black Stiff 5-Wood: Sub70 949x 5 Wood with Hrdz RDX Black stiff 4-Hybrid: Sub70 949x 4 Hybrid with Project X 5.5 Hybrid Stiff Irons: Mizuno Pro 225 - 6-PW , w/Nippon Modus 105 Stiff Wedges: Sub70 TAIII w/Nippon Modus 105 Stiff - 50 ,56, 60 Putter: L.A.B Mezz1, 34 in Balls: MaxFli Tour X, TaylorMade Tour Response, TaylorMade TPx GPS: Shot Scope X5 with Tracking TESTED: SUB70 949X 5 Wood TESTED: NIPPO N.S. Regio Formula MB+ 65 Stiff. TESTED: SkyCaddie LX5 GPS Watch TESTED: Bag Boy ZFT Bag Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post bens197 Posted May 10, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted May 10, 2021 1 hour ago, cnosil said: Probably getting off topic a bit, but your post makes it seem like everyone should do this all the time. Did some searching and can’t really find anything that says it is required or an obvious thing. I understand it could provide more control but your captain obvious makes it seem like a best practice and everyone does it all the time As examples, here are some videos of non choked down. Not trying to knock what you are saying, trying to learn james ridyard: short game coach Tiger woods james sieckmann: short game coach https://www.facebook.com/titleist/videos/408455400331163/ phil mickelson Short game is everything...the foundation of every swing and the key to success or failure is tempo. Take it back too quickly and I'll guarantee a deceleration. cnosil, BKordon, sirchunksalot and 7 others 10 Quote Titleist TSi3 Fujikura Speeder NX Blue 60X TaylorMade SIM2 3 wood Fujilkura Ventus Blue 7-X Titleist U505 2 Tensei 1K Black 85 X Titleist T100 4-P Nippon Modus 3 120X PING S159 50-S 55-H 59-T DG X100 Vokey SM8 50, SM9 54 & 60 Nippon Modus 3 120s L.A.B. MEZZ Max Broom Accra 47" 79.5* Srixon Z-Star XV Currently testing the 2024 PING S159 wedges… https://forum.mygolfspy.com/topic/63483-testers-announced-ping-s159-wedges/ Was testing, still loving the 2023 Titleist T100 Irons 4-P https://forum.mygolfspy.com/topic/60456-titleist-t-series-irons-2023-forum-review/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post NRJyzr Posted May 10, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted May 10, 2021 9 minutes ago, bens197 said: Short game is everything One of the things I did when I hit single digit territory was to stop hitting balls on the range before a round, and spend that time chipping at the practice green. It shaved another stroke or more. Amusingly... my first ever sub-80 round was a 79 on a par 73 course here in the Twin Cities. I wasn't having a particularly good day with approach shots; I wound up hitting only 4 GIR. I wonder how I managed to be only +6? Amusingly, I three jacked a par 5 I reached in two, and made up for that by chipping in for bird two holes later on a par 3. LOL MrBandit, Kenny B, tony@CIC and 7 others 10 Quote Driver: TM Original One 11.5* set to 11*, Aldila NV75 X, 43.5" -or- SpeedZone, HZRDUS Black 75 6.5, 43.5" 3w: Cobra King LTD, RIP Beta 90, 42" -or- Stage 2 Tour, NV105 X, 42.5" 2h or 3h: TaylorMade Stage 2 Tour, Aldila NV105 S -or- RIP Alpha 105 S Irons: 3-PW Mizuno MP37, Recoil Proto 125 F4 (reshaft in progress, slowly); 1i & 3-PW Golden Ram TW276, NV105 S; 2-PW Golden Ram TW282, RIP Tour 115 R GW: Dynacraft Dual Milled CNC 52*, Steelfiber 125 S; Scratch 8620 DS 53*, Steelfiber 125 S SW: Ram TG-898 56*, DGX ss2x; Ram Tom Watson 55*, DGX ss2x; Wilson Staff PMP 58*, DGS; PM Grind 19 58*, stock shaft Putter: Snake Eyes Viper Tour Sv1, 34"; Ping Scottsdale TR Craz-E, 35"; Cleveland Huntington Beach 1, 35" Ball: Wilson Staff Duo Professional, Bridgestone Tour B-RXS, Callaway Chrome Soft Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GolfSpy AFG Posted May 10, 2021 Share Posted May 10, 2021 1 hour ago, cnosil said: Probably getting off topic a bit, but your post makes it seem like everyone should do this all the time. Did some searching and can’t really find anything that says it is required or an obvious thing. I understand it could provide more control but your captain obvious makes it seem like a best practice and everyone does it all the time As examples, here are some videos of non choked down. Not trying to knock what you are saying, trying to learn james ridyard: short game coach Tiger woods james sieckmann: short game coach https://www.facebook.com/titleist/videos/408455400331163/ phil mickelson I'm in the same boat as @cnosil here, not discounting the advice but I can also say I'm not aware of it as a universally-accepted mandate. Dave Stockton is another, in his book "Unconscious Scoring", who specifically recommends against choking down. I don't have the book at my fingertips at the moment but he had his reasons...I'll have to check and circle back here tonight. GolfSpy_SHARK, tony@CIC, BKordon and 5 others 8 Quote Driver: TSR2, Ventus Blue 6 S, 65g Stiff FW: TSR2 3w, 15, Ventus Blue 7 S, 70g Stiff Hybrids: Apex Pro 3H, Ventus Blue 8 S, 80g Stiff Stealth DHY 4H, Ventus Blue 8 S, 80g Stiff Irons: SMS 5-6, SMS Pro 7-PW, Aerotech Steelfiber i95 Stiff Wedges: SM9 48 F Grind, 52 F Grind, 56 M Grind, Aerotech Steelfiber i95 Stiff Putter: Sri-Hot 5K Triple Wide, Stroke Lab shaft Ball: Pro V1 Click here for my HONMA TR20 Official Review! Click here for my Arccos Caddie Bundle Official Review! Click here for my Edel SMS & SMS Pro Irons Official Review! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrBandit Posted May 10, 2021 Share Posted May 10, 2021 20 minutes ago, bens197 said: Short game is everything...the foundation of every swing and the key to success or failure is tempo. Take it back too quickly and I'll guarantee a deceleration. I agree that the short game is everything, you see some coaches teaching new players from the green back to tee box. I spend more time practicing chipping and putting, since those golf movements can be minimal and you can get a consistent tempo easier than Hitting your driver or irons. To me if am chipping and putting well, it takes less pressure of my driver or irons because I have the confidence that I can get up and down most of the time. That cause my Driver and Iron to swing freely. cksurfdude, MattF, GolfSpy_SHARK and 5 others 7 1 Quote Driver: TaylorMade Qi10 MAX - 8.5 with Fujikura Speeder NX TCS 50 (secondary shaft HRDZ Black 6.0 Stiff) 3 -Wood: Sub70 949x 3 Wood 15 with Hrdz RDX Black Stiff 5-Wood: Sub70 949x 5 Wood with Hrdz RDX Black stiff 4-Hybrid: Sub70 949x 4 Hybrid with Project X 5.5 Hybrid Stiff Irons: Mizuno Pro 225 - 6-PW , w/Nippon Modus 105 Stiff Wedges: Sub70 TAIII w/Nippon Modus 105 Stiff - 50 ,56, 60 Putter: L.A.B Mezz1, 34 in Balls: MaxFli Tour X, TaylorMade Tour Response, TaylorMade TPx GPS: Shot Scope X5 with Tracking TESTED: SUB70 949X 5 Wood TESTED: NIPPO N.S. Regio Formula MB+ 65 Stiff. TESTED: SkyCaddie LX5 GPS Watch TESTED: Bag Boy ZFT Bag Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post GolfSpy_SHARK Posted May 10, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted May 10, 2021 16 minutes ago, bens197 said: Short game is everything...the foundation of every swing and the key to success or failure is tempo. Take it back too quickly and I'll guarantee a deceleration. Thats exactly what I have worked on this whole off season....Tempo. I was not even paying attention to choked down. The small sample so far this year on course has already lowered my arccos short games stats by -2.8 shots gained compared to my previous 6 rounds (3 rounds this year vs 6 end of last year) MattF, sirchunksalot, tony@CIC and 7 others 10 Quote Check out my reviews: G710 Irons Official Review I MC Shaft & V Series Putter Official Review 2022 Forged Tec's Official Review I Nitron Push Cart Official Review WITB: Weapons of grass destruction (link to WITB) Traverse is filled with all this shiny metal and tracked by RadSpeed 8* - MotoreX F1 6X SIM 3W - Project X HZRDUS Green U505 Driving Iron 17* - Project X HZRDUS Black SpeedZone 4H - Project X HZRDUS Black 2022 King Forged Tec's 4-PW - KBS $ Tape 130 48 (SM8), 52 & 60 (SM7) - Nippon Modus 125 S ER2VI PROV1X #19 Are you a veteran? Check out the Veterans Golf Association (VGA) Thread! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post bens197 Posted May 10, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted May 10, 2021 18 minutes ago, NRJyzr said: One of the things I did when I hit single digit territory was to stop hitting balls on the range before a round, and spend that time chipping at the practice green. It shaved another stroke or more. Amusingly... my first ever sub-80 round was a 79 on a par 73 course here in the Twin Cities. I wasn't having a particularly good day with approach shots; I wound up hitting only 4 GIR. I wonder how I managed to be only +6? Amusingly, I three jacked a par 5 I reached in two, and made up for that by chipping in for bird two holes later on a par 3. LOL 4 minutes ago, Lacassem said: Thats exactly what I have worked on this whole off season....Tempo. I was not even paying attention to choked down. The small sample so far this year on course has already lowered my arccos short games stats by -2.8 shots gained compared to my previous 6 rounds (3 rounds this year vs 6 end of last year) 9 minutes ago, MrBandit said: I agree that the short game is everything, you see some coaches teaching new players from the green back to tee box. I spend more time practicing chipping and putting, since those golf movements can be minimal and you can get a consistent tempo easier than Hitting your driver or irons. To me if am chipping and putting well, it takes less pressure of my driver or irons because I have the confidence that I can get up and down most of the time. That cause my Driver and Iron to swing freely. We've all heard that a majority of our strokes occur around the green...and while that's 100% accurate, I never gave that the attention it deserved. This season I started putting in the reps with the putter and wedges and really gave my effort to those swings. It's amazing as you guys have said, the dividends paid by putting reps into those shots. Not only do they repair any issues with a larger swing, the confidence that I myself gained make me feel so much better when I play a round where I need to grind. I don't like that round grind me, I grind it back! sirchunksalot, Kenny B, MattF and 9 others 12 Quote Titleist TSi3 Fujikura Speeder NX Blue 60X TaylorMade SIM2 3 wood Fujilkura Ventus Blue 7-X Titleist U505 2 Tensei 1K Black 85 X Titleist T100 4-P Nippon Modus 3 120X PING S159 50-S 55-H 59-T DG X100 Vokey SM8 50, SM9 54 & 60 Nippon Modus 3 120s L.A.B. MEZZ Max Broom Accra 47" 79.5* Srixon Z-Star XV Currently testing the 2024 PING S159 wedges… https://forum.mygolfspy.com/topic/63483-testers-announced-ping-s159-wedges/ Was testing, still loving the 2023 Titleist T100 Irons 4-P https://forum.mygolfspy.com/topic/60456-titleist-t-series-irons-2023-forum-review/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GolfSpy_SHARK Posted May 10, 2021 Share Posted May 10, 2021 6 minutes ago, bens197 said: We've all heard that a majority of our strokes occur around the green...and while that's 100% accurate, I never gave that the attention it deserved. This season I started putting in the reps with the putter and wedges and really gave my effort to those swings. It's amazing as you guys have said, the dividends paid by putting reps into those shots. Not only do they repair any issues with a larger swing, the confidence that I myself gained make me feel so much better when I play a round where I need to grind. I don't like that round grind me, I grind it back! Yes Arccos was my eye opener, I dont need to focus off the tee. I am losing so much 150 and in, this year is my "moving day". I am not worried as much about hoseling one from 30 yards out, the past 3 rounds were extremely reassuring of my off season work. tony@CIC, MrBandit, GolfSpy AFG and 5 others 8 Quote Check out my reviews: G710 Irons Official Review I MC Shaft & V Series Putter Official Review 2022 Forged Tec's Official Review I Nitron Push Cart Official Review WITB: Weapons of grass destruction (link to WITB) Traverse is filled with all this shiny metal and tracked by RadSpeed 8* - MotoreX F1 6X SIM 3W - Project X HZRDUS Green U505 Driving Iron 17* - Project X HZRDUS Black SpeedZone 4H - Project X HZRDUS Black 2022 King Forged Tec's 4-PW - KBS $ Tape 130 48 (SM8), 52 & 60 (SM7) - Nippon Modus 125 S ER2VI PROV1X #19 Are you a veteran? Check out the Veterans Golf Association (VGA) Thread! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Rickp Posted May 10, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted May 10, 2021 We sure are a fickle group, golfers in general. Played 9 this morning on a decent course, greens were awesome but evil. I played my Mizuno 919 as I was offered a set price for them and not sure if I’m ready to let go. He’ll no, I was killing them! Shot 2 over 38 and should have been lower, missed 4 putts that I was reading breaks and the ball was having none of it. Bad ball!! Needless to say Mizzies are staying home. I felt sotfor the guy as he wants Mizuno’s but doesn’t want to wait for them and Recoil Shafts. He’ll find something. Tom the Golf Nut, MrBandit, PMookie and 9 others 10 2 Quote Rick Left Hand, Driver; PXG 0311XF Cypher 50 gr Senior 5 wood; Ping 425, Senior Shaft 55 gr 7 wood; Ping 425, Senior Shaft 55 gr 5 hybrid; Cally Steelhead, Hazardous R2 Irons; Mizuno JPX 923HM 7-GW Recoil 460 F2 Wedges; Titleist S9 54*, Mizuno SW 56* Putter; Waaay too many to list Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post chisag Posted May 10, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted May 10, 2021 4 hours ago, cnosil said: Probably getting off topic a bit, but your post makes it seem like everyone should do this all the time. Did some searching and can’t really find anything that says it is required or an obvious thing. I understand it could provide more control but your captain obvious makes it seem like a best practice and everyone does it all the time As examples, here are some videos of non choked down. Not trying to knock what you are saying, trying to learn ... This is why we are all here, to share and discuss golf so thanks for your reply as well as others that chimmed in. My post was a little too broad and I do not normally choke down for standard pitches. As I said when standing closer to the ball I do, and this is always a short pitch around the green where I need to use the bounce or open the face for a controlled short shot. I do choke down for all of my chipping by about 3/4", not much but it makes a big difference in my posture. The Captain Obvious was conventional wisdom and again doesn't apply to everyone. Raymond Floyd is regarded by many as one of the best chippers ever and his technique was not conventional. There is also a difference of opinion on having the ball back in your stance and using the leading edge or more forward and using the bounce. There just is no one way that works best for all. ... There are quite a few reasons other than when standing closer you need to choke down, like counter balancing the shaft and of course just more control. But golf is a very unique and personal endeavor and there are basics that usually work for the majority but certainly not for all. If you have learned to chip without choking down and consider it a strength of your game there is no reason to change, although I have always been a fan of experimenting ng because you never know when something will cause an improvement. My post was in response to quite a few chipping problems people were listing especially fat, thin and bladed. I would add I was surprised how many students thought of pitching and chipping as the same thing so sorry for generalizing. You stated you don't choke down from 20 yds out which is truly a pitch and not a long chip. ... I am never too old to learn, these fast hard fairways and areas around the greens in Phoenix combined with Bermuda grain has dictated I learn a new short game. 10yds off the green with a front pin I would hit an aggressive pitch that would hit and take a mini hop and stop back dead in the midwest. That was my go to shot and rarely hit any kind of running shot even to a back pin. The lies are so tight here and if the grain is growing away that shot is impossible and I have had to learn to hit longer running chips both through the fairway or on the green. ... There are plenty of videos out there and here is a classic technique from Brad Faxon with several options around the green. Notice he chokes down about 3/4" for his standard chips but does not mention it. In fact many chipping video's don't mention choking down a little but it is obvious the instructor is doing it. MaxEntropy, CarlH, cksurfdude and 9 others 11 1 Quote Driver: Qi10 10.5* ... Ventus Red Velocore 5R Fairway: Aerojet 3/5 ... Kai'li Blue 60R Hybrids: 430 Hybrid 22*... Steelfiber 780Hy DHy #4 ... Diamana LTD 65r Irons: '23 T200 5-Pw ... Steelfiber i95r Wedges: Vokey 50*/54*/58* ... Steelfiber i95r Putter: Sport-60 33" Ball: Maxfli Maxfli Tour Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrBandit Posted May 10, 2021 Share Posted May 10, 2021 10 minutes ago, chisag said: ... This is why we are all here, to share and discuss golf so thanks for your reply as well as others that chimmed in. My post was a little too broad and I do not normally choke down for standard pitches. As I said when standing closer to the ball I do, and this is always a short pitch around the green where I need to use the bounce or open the face for a controlled short shot. I do choke down for all of my chipping by about 3/4", not much but it makes a big difference in my posture. The Captain Obvious was conventional wisdom and again doesn't apply to everyone. Raymond Floyd is regarded by many as one of the best chippers ever and his technique was not conventional. There is also a difference of opinion on having the ball back in your stance and using the leading edge or more forward and using the bounce. There just is no one way that works best for all. ... There are quite a few reasons other than when standing closer you need to choke down, like counter balancing the shaft and of course just more control. But golf is a very unique and personal endeavor and there are basics that usually work for the majority but certainly not for all. If you have learned to chip without choking down and consider it a strength of your game there is no reason to change, although I have always been a fan of experimenting ng because you never know when something will cause an improvement. My post was in response to quite a few chipping problems people were listing especially fat, thin and bladed. I would add I was surprised how many students thought of pitching and chipping as the same thing so sorry for generalizing. You stated you don't choke down from 20 yds out which is truly a pitch and not a long chip. ... I am never too old to learn, these fast hard fairways and areas around the greens in Phoenix combined with Bermuda grain has dictated I learn a new short game. 10yds off the green with a front pin I would hit an aggressive pitch that would hit and take a mini hop and stop back dead in the midwest. That was my go to shot and rarely hit any kind of running shot even to a back pin. The lies are so tight here and if the grain is growing away that shot is impossible and I have had to learn to hit longer running chips both through the fairway or on the green. ... There are plenty of videos out there and here is a classic technique from Brad Faxon with several options around the green. Notice he chokes down about 3/4" for his standard chips but does not mention it. In fact many chipping video's don't mention choking down a little but it is obvious the instructor is doing it. I used the hybrid for off the green and specially if I have a long way to go to the flag. and have choke down on my wedges when chipping. I found that I was more consistent with the stroke, and was using the bounce more. I don't even think about it, its automatic.. tony@CIC, BKordon, chisag and 4 others 7 Quote Driver: TaylorMade Qi10 MAX - 8.5 with Fujikura Speeder NX TCS 50 (secondary shaft HRDZ Black 6.0 Stiff) 3 -Wood: Sub70 949x 3 Wood 15 with Hrdz RDX Black Stiff 5-Wood: Sub70 949x 5 Wood with Hrdz RDX Black stiff 4-Hybrid: Sub70 949x 4 Hybrid with Project X 5.5 Hybrid Stiff Irons: Mizuno Pro 225 - 6-PW , w/Nippon Modus 105 Stiff Wedges: Sub70 TAIII w/Nippon Modus 105 Stiff - 50 ,56, 60 Putter: L.A.B Mezz1, 34 in Balls: MaxFli Tour X, TaylorMade Tour Response, TaylorMade TPx GPS: Shot Scope X5 with Tracking TESTED: SUB70 949X 5 Wood TESTED: NIPPO N.S. Regio Formula MB+ 65 Stiff. TESTED: SkyCaddie LX5 GPS Watch TESTED: Bag Boy ZFT Bag Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post chisag Posted May 10, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted May 10, 2021 3 hours ago, bens197 said: We've all heard that a majority of our strokes occur around the green...and while that's 100% accurate, I never gave that the attention it deserved. This season I started putting in the reps with the putter and wedges and really gave my effort to those swings. It's amazing as you guys have said, the dividends paid by putting reps into those shots. Not only do they repair any issues with a larger swing, the confidence that I myself gained make me feel so much better when I play a round where I need to grind. I don't like that round grind me, I grind it back! ... One of the best things I ever did for my game was compete around the green with a short hitting friend of mine. We would play 18 holes, then play #10 again and end at #11. After playing twilite the green was always open and we usually had about 1/2 hour before sunset. He had a really good short game and we would take turns starting from normal to impossible positions and whoever had the fewest strokes won $1 which as most know handing over $1 is about pride. #11 was perfect as a par 5 with a relatively flat green but a lot of slope and surrounded by several bunkers, thick rough, trees and bushes. ... We would hit over bushes or trees, under them, step on our ball in the bunker, set it right on the lip and of course just put it in traditional spots too. It added some imagination for both of us and we learned new techniques as well as what worked well and what didn't. Most importantly it made practice fun. If you don't have a friend to do this with, make up games for yourself to keep short game practice interesting and fun. Of course nothing at all wrong with just good old fashion hard work and practice either! cksurfdude, MaxEntropy, tony@CIC and 9 others 12 Quote Driver: Qi10 10.5* ... Ventus Red Velocore 5R Fairway: Aerojet 3/5 ... Kai'li Blue 60R Hybrids: 430 Hybrid 22*... Steelfiber 780Hy DHy #4 ... Diamana LTD 65r Irons: '23 T200 5-Pw ... Steelfiber i95r Wedges: Vokey 50*/54*/58* ... Steelfiber i95r Putter: Sport-60 33" Ball: Maxfli Maxfli Tour Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post cksurfdude Posted May 10, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted May 10, 2021 Played 14 holes .. until the rains came .. yesterday; played ok-ish but was happy to start hitting some of my tee shots. Most were not pretty, but at least most of those headed in the right direction. Also started connecting with more second shots, though .. similarly .. most were not pretty with some tops/thins, fats, lefts/rights .. but again at least most of those headed in the generally right direction. Wedges were the disappointment of the day .. had several 2-Chips after chunking the first one. A few from the close around the green were ok. Putting was the seeming bright spot - had 14 putts over the first 9 holes but this was more a function of missing the green and then either.. (a) chipping it close or (b) putting from the fringe, or a close-cut surrounding area, and not counting it as an "official" putt (fyi I normally would but in my on-going putting contest with my wife we called off the green is not a "putt"). So overall ... ok-ish Oh, PS: One of the many things I've been working on in my lessons is a more pronounced, "stronger" lateral shift target-ward at the start of the downswing (or, transition ideally .. maybe in the future!). Tried to emphasize that and found more of my misses going left, vs my typical weak fade right miss. So we'll label that as partial improvement? tony@CIC, GolfSpy_SHARK, bens197 and 8 others 11 Quote WITB of an "aspiring" play-ah ... Driver...Callaway Paradym (Aldila Ascent PL Blue 40/A) 5W...Callaway Great Big Bertha (MCA Kai'Li Red 50/R) 7W...Tour Edge Exotics EXS (Tensei CK Blue 50/R) 4H...Callaway Epic Super Hybrid (Recoil ZT9 F3) 5H...Callaway Big Bertha ('19) (Recoil 460 ESX F3) 6i-GW...Sub 70 699 V2 (Recoil 660 F3) 54°, 60°...Cleveland CBX2, CBX 60 (Rotex graphite) Putter...EvnRoll ER5 or MLA Tour XDream (P2 Reflex grip on both) ...all in a Datrek bag on an MGI Zip Navigator electric cart. Ball often, not always, MaxFli Tour. Forum Member tester for the Paradym X driver (2023) Forum Member tester for the ExPutt Putting Simulator (2020) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post sirchunksalot Posted May 10, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted May 10, 2021 I got a chance to get out and play 9 today, I took a long weekend to celebrate my wife's birthday. I somehow managed to scrape or a 51 with 5 fairways, 0 greens, and 16 putts. The fairways hit is a bit misleading, most of my drives lacked any real distance leaving me at a disadvantage. Had 3 penalties for lost balls, one of the tee, one in a pond, and one on an approach. My approach game was horrible, lots of thins and chunks. I had to laugh on the par 4 fifth hole when I topped a 5 wood then proceeded to top a wedge that rolled, somehow, on the green. I can't say I scored well on that hole as I lost a drive right. My short game saved my bacon until the last hole. I had 4 one putts and 4 two putts up until that point. On 9 I hit a lousy drive, a pretty good 5 wood, then thinned a wedge 30 feet over the green. My next chip was cuffed and then I thinned another one that stayed on the green, but left me with a 40+ footer. I three putted from there to score a quad. I can't complain, it was a beautiful, overcast day and the course was playing decently well considering the rain we got last night. It was CPO, so that helped me get some exercise in. GolfSpy_SHARK, CarlH, MrBandit and 13 others 16 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post CarlH Posted May 10, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted May 10, 2021 On the standing closer to the ball subject, I was specifically talking about full shots that my instructor had me get closer to the ball. I was too far away and my posture suffered. My moving closer, I was able to get more vertical and up and around rather than around my body. With chipping (bump/run), I always stood closer to the ball with the heel of the club elevated a tad and choked up on the grip as needed to obtain the best posture. Short pitches (10-75 yrds)and lob shots, I also choke up, varying as needed for both posture and distance control. Rickp, Tom the Golf Nut, chisag and 12 others 15 Quote Driver: Rogue ST Max (10.5* set at -1 and neutral) -- Mitsubishi Tensai Blue 55g R shaft Fairway: Rogue ST Max 3 wood (16.5*) and Heaven Wood (20*)-- Tensai Blue 55g R shaft Hybrids: Rogue ST Max 5H (23*)--Tensai Blue 55g R shaft Irons: Apex CF19 6-9, PW, AW -- KBS Tour Graphite TGI 70 shafts R +1/2 inch 3* upright Wedges: Edison 53* and 57* KBS PGI 80 Graphite +1/2 inch 2* upright Putter: L.A.B. DF 2.1 -- BGT Stability shaft Ball: Maxfli TourX...Golf Bag: Pioneer...Shoes: Hyperflex... Glove: Red Rooster Feather My Photography can be seen at Smugmug Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post bens197 Posted May 10, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted May 10, 2021 2 hours ago, chisag said: ... One of the best things I ever did for my game was compete around the green with a short hitting friend of mine. We would play 18 holes, then play #10 again and end at #11. After playing twilite the green was always open and we usually had about 1/2 hour before sunset. He had a really good short game and we would take turns starting from normal to impossible positions and whoever had the fewest strokes won $1 which as most know handing over $1 is about pride. #11 was perfect as a par 5 with a relatively flat green but a lot of slope and surrounded by several bunkers, thick rough, trees and bushes. ... We would hit over bushes or trees, under them, step on our ball in the bunker, set it right on the lip and of course just put it in traditional spots too. It added some imagination for both of us and we learned new techniques as well as what worked well and what didn't. Most importantly it made practice fun. If you don't have a friend to do this with, make up games for yourself to keep short game practice interesting and fun. Of course nothing at all wrong with just good old fashion hard work and practice either! I need more friends like this...and to the point...this right here is how you get that handicap down and confidence up! MattF, Tom the Golf Nut, MrBandit and 10 others 13 Quote Titleist TSi3 Fujikura Speeder NX Blue 60X TaylorMade SIM2 3 wood Fujilkura Ventus Blue 7-X Titleist U505 2 Tensei 1K Black 85 X Titleist T100 4-P Nippon Modus 3 120X PING S159 50-S 55-H 59-T DG X100 Vokey SM8 50, SM9 54 & 60 Nippon Modus 3 120s L.A.B. MEZZ Max Broom Accra 47" 79.5* Srixon Z-Star XV Currently testing the 2024 PING S159 wedges… https://forum.mygolfspy.com/topic/63483-testers-announced-ping-s159-wedges/ Was testing, still loving the 2023 Titleist T100 Irons 4-P https://forum.mygolfspy.com/topic/60456-titleist-t-series-irons-2023-forum-review/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Tom the Golf Nut Posted May 10, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted May 10, 2021 The short game was where I spent and still spend most of my practice time. I still practice to a flag in the yard with different clubs and do the following challenges: Under and over a lawn chair Over a 4 foot ladder Over an 8 foot ladder Chipping into an open umbrella stuck in the ground from various distances. Then I would practice my sand game. Wouldn't stop until I holed one. I had a sand trap and green on another area of the property. Putts were a game too. Had to hole x amout in a row before I would quit. The x was determined on distance. I also do some things I probably shouldn't. Hit from the back yard over the garage to a green on the side yard. About 100 yards away. The standard 100 yard tee box got boring. CarlH, MrBandit, MattF and 12 others 14 1 Quote Driver, TSi 1 S Flex 3 wood, Aerojet Max UST Helium Nanocore R Flex 5 wood, Aerojet Max UST Helium Nanocore R Flex 7 Wood, Aerojet Max UST Helium Nanocore R Flex 5 Hybrid King Tec MMT R Flex Irons, Tour UST Recoil 95 R Flex (6 - Gap) Wedges, Snakebite KBS Hi- Rev2.0 54* & 60* Agera 35" Ultralight 14-way Cart Bag Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rickp Posted May 10, 2021 Share Posted May 10, 2021 Local Golf Course was 1/2 mile from our house. I was there many evenings in the practice green, chipping area or walking a few holes before dark. Rarely beat balls in the range, I loved working on short game. sirchunksalot, cksurfdude, Kenny B and 5 others 8 Quote Rick Left Hand, Driver; PXG 0311XF Cypher 50 gr Senior 5 wood; Ping 425, Senior Shaft 55 gr 7 wood; Ping 425, Senior Shaft 55 gr 5 hybrid; Cally Steelhead, Hazardous R2 Irons; Mizuno JPX 923HM 7-GW Recoil 460 F2 Wedges; Titleist S9 54*, Mizuno SW 56* Putter; Waaay too many to list Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Sluggo42 Posted May 11, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted May 11, 2021 Shot a decent 78, but what was really cool was my driving range session afterwards. Yum yum so I’ve been hitting a bit of a cut lately for no apparent reason so I watched a few videos on hitting a soft draw like I used to do. so I went thru the procedure, of an exaggerated turning the wrists over , then placing a small bucket at each side of the ball, creating an in / out swing path. Then some easy swings, in to out with an exaggerated turn over. then started to hit some balls at about 50%, and slowly worked it up to say 80%. And there it was... I started hitting some of the nicest balls ever. So, I moved the rake and hit some more... can’t wait to hit tomorrow, hoping it sticks... GolfSpy_SHARK, chisag, Rickp and 11 others 14 Quote TSr2 on tensi blue stiff Speedzone 3-wood on Tensi blue S Epic Max 5 and 7 woods on HZRDUS Reg flex Paradym 9 wood on HZRDUS reg flex P770 / P790 combo set on Ventus R-6 shafts 6-AW T22 Denim Copper 54°, 58° on Kinetic X Trajectory ER3 or, E.A.S. #4 (“Fang” or “Adele”) ProV1x, or, Maxfli Tour X .Org 14 cart bag Adidas Tour 360 , or Sketcher shoes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Sluggo42 Posted May 11, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted May 11, 2021 Shot a real nice 40/37 this morning which could have been lower had just a few of my putts dropped. Missed many putts by just a hair. could have been my best iron striking day in years. So much fun when you’re on top of iron play... cksurfdude, cnosil, sirchunksalot and 11 others 14 Quote TSr2 on tensi blue stiff Speedzone 3-wood on Tensi blue S Epic Max 5 and 7 woods on HZRDUS Reg flex Paradym 9 wood on HZRDUS reg flex P770 / P790 combo set on Ventus R-6 shafts 6-AW T22 Denim Copper 54°, 58° on Kinetic X Trajectory ER3 or, E.A.S. #4 (“Fang” or “Adele”) ProV1x, or, Maxfli Tour X .Org 14 cart bag Adidas Tour 360 , or Sketcher shoes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GolfSpy AFG Posted May 11, 2021 Share Posted May 11, 2021 On 5/10/2021 at 1:06 PM, chisag said: ... This is why we are all here, to share and discuss golf so thanks for your reply as well as others that chimmed in. My post was a little too broad and I do not normally choke down for standard pitches. As I said when standing closer to the ball I do, and this is always a short pitch around the green where I need to use the bounce or open the face for a controlled short shot. I do choke down for all of my chipping by about 3/4", not much but it makes a big difference in my posture. The Captain Obvious was conventional wisdom and again doesn't apply to everyone. Raymond Floyd is regarded by many as one of the best chippers ever and his technique was not conventional. There is also a difference of opinion on having the ball back in your stance and using the leading edge or more forward and using the bounce. There just is no one way that works best for all. ... There are quite a few reasons other than when standing closer you need to choke down, like counter balancing the shaft and of course just more control. But golf is a very unique and personal endeavor and there are basics that usually work for the majority but certainly not for all. If you have learned to chip without choking down and consider it a strength of your game there is no reason to change, although I have always been a fan of experimenting ng because you never know when something will cause an improvement. My post was in response to quite a few chipping problems people were listing especially fat, thin and bladed. I would add I was surprised how many students thought of pitching and chipping as the same thing so sorry for generalizing. You stated you don't choke down from 20 yds out which is truly a pitch and not a long chip. ... I am never too old to learn, these fast hard fairways and areas around the greens in Phoenix combined with Bermuda grain has dictated I learn a new short game. 10yds off the green with a front pin I would hit an aggressive pitch that would hit and take a mini hop and stop back dead in the midwest. That was my go to shot and rarely hit any kind of running shot even to a back pin. The lies are so tight here and if the grain is growing away that shot is impossible and I have had to learn to hit longer running chips both through the fairway or on the green. ... There are plenty of videos out there and here is a classic technique from Brad Faxon with several options around the green. Notice he chokes down about 3/4" for his standard chips but does not mention it. In fact many chipping video's don't mention choking down a little but it is obvious the instructor is doing it. Great post...like you I appreciate the back and forth. Just circling back since I mentioned Dave Stockton's "Unconscious Scoring," and while I won't quote him at length he basically says that in his experience choking down leads to too much speed in the chipping motion...that it creates fast hands instead of the longer stroke/swing he prefers. Ironically, he follows up by saying there are many ways to do it; mentions Hubert Green as having the second best short game he's ever seen (behind Raymond Floyd) and then says he didn't agree with any of the mechanics Green employed to get it done! cksurfdude, sirchunksalot, BKordon and 4 others 7 Quote Driver: TSR2, Ventus Blue 6 S, 65g Stiff FW: TSR2 3w, 15, Ventus Blue 7 S, 70g Stiff Hybrids: Apex Pro 3H, Ventus Blue 8 S, 80g Stiff Stealth DHY 4H, Ventus Blue 8 S, 80g Stiff Irons: SMS 5-6, SMS Pro 7-PW, Aerotech Steelfiber i95 Stiff Wedges: SM9 48 F Grind, 52 F Grind, 56 M Grind, Aerotech Steelfiber i95 Stiff Putter: Sri-Hot 5K Triple Wide, Stroke Lab shaft Ball: Pro V1 Click here for my HONMA TR20 Official Review! Click here for my Arccos Caddie Bundle Official Review! Click here for my Edel SMS & SMS Pro Irons Official Review! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post edingc Posted May 11, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted May 11, 2021 - 44/48 = 92 / 90 ESC (+21) - 4/13 FIR - 3/18 GIR (1 birdie) - 31 Putts (1 3-putt, 11 2-putts, 6 1-putts) - Had three lip out on me... blah. Had a free greens fee that expired this week at the condo course I play occasionally, so I took the afternoon off to take advantage of that. Decided to challenge myself from the back tees, which in retrospect with a 15 MPH sustained wind was really a poor choice. The course rates out as a 72.9/142, but they shortened a few holes to accommodate more condos over the past five years, so it's only 6,300-ish yards now. I would assume they'll re-rate sometime, but that's besides the point of this post... My golf game is feast or famine so far this season. Today I couldn't hit anything from the tee and it cost me dearly. I think I lost five balls in total to hazards or out of bounds, and I carded a nine on the first par 5 after most likely visiting someone's yard with my tee shot (couldn't tell, ball was right, going right) and then getting a bad luck bounce on the cart path in front of the green out of bounds on my approach shot. Six pars and a birdie tells you how poorly the other 11 holes went. At least I putted really well! Something about these greens really suit me - I putted extremely well last time I played here, too. They're very quick but they roll true and I enjoy that a lot. cnosil, ncwoz, sirchunksalot and 10 others 13 Quote Unofficial WHS Handicap: 7.5 / Anti-Cap: 13.0 (Last Updated Feb. 19, 2024) Driver: Callaway Paradym TD (10.5°, -1/N), 45.75", Fujikura Motore X F1 6X | Fitting Post 3 Wood: Cobra RadSpeed Big Tour (14.5°), 43", Fujikura Motore X F1 7X 20° Hybrid: PXG 0211 (2020 Model), 40.25", Mitsubishi Tensei AV RAW White 90X 4 Utility: Cobra KING Utility (2020 Model), 38.5", Aerotech SteelFiber i110cw Stiff 5-PW: Ben Hogan PTx Pro, 37" 7 Iron, Aerotech SteelFiber i125cw Stiff | Club Champion Fitting 50°, 54°, 58°: Edel SMS, V Grind, Nippon Modus 125 Wedge| Official Review Thread Putter: L.A.B. Golf DF 2.1, 36", 68°, Black with Custom Sightlines, BGT Stability Tour, L.A.B. Press II 3° | Unofficial Review Grips: Star Sidewinder, Undersized with Custom Tape Build-Up Ball: Snell MTB-X Optic Yellow Tracked By: Shot Scope H4 Bag: Personalized 2020 Sun Mountain Sync Riding On: Bag Boy Nitron | Official Review Thread WITB? | 2022 Reviewer Edel SMS Wedges | 2021 Reviewer Maxfli Tour and Tour X Balls | 2020 Participant #CobraConnect Challenge | 2019 Reviewer Callaway Epic Flash Driver Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GolfSpy AFG Posted May 11, 2021 Share Posted May 11, 2021 2 minutes ago, edingc said: - 44/48 = 92 / 90 ESC (+19) - 4/13 FIR - 3/18 GIR (1 birdie) - 31 Putts (1 3-putts, 11 2-putts, 6 1-putts) - Had three lip out on me... blah. Had a free greens fee that expired this week at the condo course I play occasionally, so I took the afternoon off to take advantage of that. Decided to challenge myself from the back tees, which in retrospect with a 15 MPH sustained wind was really a poor choice. The course rates out as a 72.9/142, but they shortened a few holes to accommodate more condos over the past five years, so it's only 6,300-ish yards now. I would assume they'll re-rate sometime, but that's besides the point of this post... My golf game is feast or famine so far this season. Today I couldn't hit anything from the tee and it cost me dearly. I think I lost five balls in total to hazards or out of bounds, and I carded a nine on the first par 5 after most likely visiting someone's yard with my tee shot (couldn't tell, ball was right, going right) and then getting a bad luck bounce on the cart path in front of the green out of bounds on my approach shot. Six pars and a birdie tells you how poorly the other 11 holes went. At least I putted really well! Something about these greens really suit me - I putted extremely well last time I played here, too. They're very quick but they roll true and I enjoy that a lot. MIssing all over the place from the tee, or the same kind of right and more right miss over and over? sirchunksalot, CarlH, tony@CIC and 2 others 5 Quote Driver: TSR2, Ventus Blue 6 S, 65g Stiff FW: TSR2 3w, 15, Ventus Blue 7 S, 70g Stiff Hybrids: Apex Pro 3H, Ventus Blue 8 S, 80g Stiff Stealth DHY 4H, Ventus Blue 8 S, 80g Stiff Irons: SMS 5-6, SMS Pro 7-PW, Aerotech Steelfiber i95 Stiff Wedges: SM9 48 F Grind, 52 F Grind, 56 M Grind, Aerotech Steelfiber i95 Stiff Putter: Sri-Hot 5K Triple Wide, Stroke Lab shaft Ball: Pro V1 Click here for my HONMA TR20 Official Review! Click here for my Arccos Caddie Bundle Official Review! Click here for my Edel SMS & SMS Pro Irons Official Review! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rickp Posted May 11, 2021 Share Posted May 11, 2021 Early 9 holes on a tough Exec with 1 par 4. Par 3 holes were long for us Ole Farts, 150-185yds. The Mizzie irons were great they are not going anywhere anytime soon. Putting well another issue, sunk 1 decent putt, lip out after lip out I’ll be using a stouter tomorrow, Anser goes in time out. Didn't keep score but 1 double, 3 bogies rest pars. MattF, cksurfdude, PMookie and 6 others 9 Quote Rick Left Hand, Driver; PXG 0311XF Cypher 50 gr Senior 5 wood; Ping 425, Senior Shaft 55 gr 7 wood; Ping 425, Senior Shaft 55 gr 5 hybrid; Cally Steelhead, Hazardous R2 Irons; Mizuno JPX 923HM 7-GW Recoil 460 F2 Wedges; Titleist S9 54*, Mizuno SW 56* Putter; Waaay too many to list Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GolfSpy BOS Posted May 11, 2021 Share Posted May 11, 2021 11 minutes ago, edingc said: - 44/48 = 92 / 90 ESC (+19) - 4/13 FIR - 3/18 GIR (1 birdie) - 31 Putts (1 3-putts, 11 2-putts, 6 1-putts) - Had three lip out on me... blah. Had a free greens fee that expired this week at the condo course I play occasionally, so I took the afternoon off to take advantage of that. Decided to challenge myself from the back tees, which in retrospect with a 15 MPH sustained wind was really a poor choice. The course rates out as a 72.9/142, but they shortened a few holes to accommodate more condos over the past five years, so it's only 6,300-ish yards now. I would assume they'll re-rate sometime, but that's besides the point of this post... My golf game is feast or famine so far this season. Today I couldn't hit anything from the tee and it cost me dearly. I think I lost five balls in total to hazards or out of bounds, and I carded a nine on the first par 5 after most likely visiting someone's yard with my tee shot (couldn't tell, ball was right, going right) and then getting a bad luck bounce on the cart path in front of the green out of bounds on my approach shot. Six pars and a birdie tells you how poorly the other 11 holes went. At least I putted really well! Something about these greens really suit me - I putted extremely well last time I played here, too. They're very quick but they roll true and I enjoy that a lot. Sounds like my round off the tee last time out! Something about the early season and wanting to crush them all is a bad mix for me. 6 1-putts with 3 lip-outs sounds like you are getting dangerous with the LAB putter man! I also seem to do better on quicker greens. Keep it up! cksurfdude, edingc, MaxEntropy and 4 others 7 Quote Epic Max LS 10.5 - Motore X F3 6X | Speedzone 5-wood - Ventus Blue 8S | TSi3 20* Hybrid - KBS Proto 85S SMS Pro 4-PW - Steelfiber i110S | MG3 Raw Black 50.09, 54.11, 58.11 - DG TI S200 ER2B | Pro V1x | NX9 Slope | Jones Trouper R | CaddyLite EZ v8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edingc Posted May 11, 2021 Share Posted May 11, 2021 13 minutes ago, Getoffmylawn said: MIssing all over the place from the tee, or the same kind of right and more right miss over and over? Missing both ways, unfortunately. I tend miss more to the left than the right. I wish I could just drop down to the Super Hybrid and solve the problem, but I was left going left most of the day with it. Been working with my coach on it - I like to drop my rear shoulder to start the downswing which gets me coming way underneath and inside. If I hang back I go right (or drop kick it with irons/hybrids), if I get to my front side more I go left. Throw in some toe hooks when I don't do either of the above but don't rotate very well. Frustrating game! Although, to be fair, I've never played this course from the back before and on a few holes I just flat out took the wrong line which put me in bad positions for my second shot. Score tends to go as my driver goes, although it seems like during rounds where my driver is good my putting is poor. Round and round it goes... cksurfdude, MaxEntropy, GolfSpy_SHARK and 6 others 9 Quote Unofficial WHS Handicap: 7.5 / Anti-Cap: 13.0 (Last Updated Feb. 19, 2024) Driver: Callaway Paradym TD (10.5°, -1/N), 45.75", Fujikura Motore X F1 6X | Fitting Post 3 Wood: Cobra RadSpeed Big Tour (14.5°), 43", Fujikura Motore X F1 7X 20° Hybrid: PXG 0211 (2020 Model), 40.25", Mitsubishi Tensei AV RAW White 90X 4 Utility: Cobra KING Utility (2020 Model), 38.5", Aerotech SteelFiber i110cw Stiff 5-PW: Ben Hogan PTx Pro, 37" 7 Iron, Aerotech SteelFiber i125cw Stiff | Club Champion Fitting 50°, 54°, 58°: Edel SMS, V Grind, Nippon Modus 125 Wedge| Official Review Thread Putter: L.A.B. Golf DF 2.1, 36", 68°, Black with Custom Sightlines, BGT Stability Tour, L.A.B. Press II 3° | Unofficial Review Grips: Star Sidewinder, Undersized with Custom Tape Build-Up Ball: Snell MTB-X Optic Yellow Tracked By: Shot Scope H4 Bag: Personalized 2020 Sun Mountain Sync Riding On: Bag Boy Nitron | Official Review Thread WITB? | 2022 Reviewer Edel SMS Wedges | 2021 Reviewer Maxfli Tour and Tour X Balls | 2020 Participant #CobraConnect Challenge | 2019 Reviewer Callaway Epic Flash Driver Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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