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Does anyone have any tips on why I am hooking all of my irons lately? I don't know if i am in my own head or if it is my grip or any other causes. I managed to pull out a 41 yesterday on nine holes with only 1 par. 2 birdies but other than that par 3 scoring was horrendous with double bogeys on both. I was striking the ball well just overdrawing waaaaayyyyyy off my intended line.

Face is closed to the path. That is the only way to hook a ball.

The answer to why is something that is impossible to diagnose without seeing your swing.
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I am in the same place as you. Swing will work its way out and you will be back to normal scoring. I am only a couple of rounds into a bad play streak but I hit enough decent shots to know it will get better. Got the week off from my golf league so I am going to head out for a long range session sometime this week.

I had planned on playing in Houston all 3 days after work, but after yesterday’s round, I’ll be at the range and putting green today!


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I feel ya!
I was there for probably the last 12-24 months, took 3 long game tweaking lessons with the pro and 1 wedge lesson and things feel 'right' again.
At your h/cap index it's normally a small tweak to nudge you back into the groove.

Amazing how difficult it has been to just get my right elbow back in front on the downswing, and get my stinking knuckles down at impact! Jeez!!!!


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A couple days after the fact, but I shot an 81 Sunday afternoon practically playing speed golf.

Rain was expected for the day so the golf course was basically empty when I got out there. A fivesome ahead caused me to skip holes 5&6 then go back to them later. Played really solid golf for the most part, but easily missed out on a new PR. Missed an easy 3-footer for birdie on #4, duffed a tee shot on #14 then proceeded to blast hybrid OB 😞 , went long on #15 and failed to get up and down, good opportunity for birdie on #18 that turned into a bogie, another flub when I returned to #6...

If I could just take back that missed birdie putt and penalty for going OB, I'd have tied my career round for the third time. Oh well, that's golf. I'm still getting better every time I go out so I expect to break that barrier again soon. 🙂 

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1 hour ago, bmaru99 said:

Does anyone have any tips on why I am hooking all of my irons lately? I don't know if i am in my own head or if it is my grip or any other causes. I managed to pull out a 41 yesterday on nine holes with only 1 par. 2 birdies but other than that par 3 scoring was horrendous with double bogeys on both. I was striking the ball well just overdrawing waaaaayyyyyy off my intended line.

One of my buddies was doing that and the final cure for him was simply going to a more neutral grip. Are you seeing 2 or 3 knuckles of your left hand at address?

Make sure you have a neutral right angle of stance to target line and soften your grip by one knuckle and have a few rips, and adjust your grip after a few good hits, until you dial it in.

youve got to be careful at how you go after this, as you don’t want to compound a problem with additional incorrect “cures”. If this doesn’t smooth the hook out, you’d better get an assessment from a pro to make sure your natural swing doesn’t have a little glitch that’s causing your problem...

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How did I play today? So far I’m off to a good start. I slept in with the wife until 7. Then got up and made her a tea, and then sang her “Happy Birthday “ as I presented her her gift of a lovely diamond necklace. Then I made her her favorite breakfast of maple baked bacon, eggs, taters, and a fresh baked cinnamon bun.

Happy 50th hunni!

now go shopping so I can sneak off to the driving range for a few hours!!!

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2 hours ago, cnosil said:

Is the average first putt distance for missed greens or all? If for all, then you are probably not painting the right picture. Need to understand that metric from various distances to truly understand the weakness. Chips/pitches from around the green will be closer than 30+ yards. This is the strength of the strokes gained model and the various shot tracking apps. You can do it manually but have to track lots of distances and clubs used.

That said keep up the good work, it is important to understand weaknesses to be able to get better.

 

It's for all. I should break it out more, I keep it on my card as an additional stat. It's my approaches that are the killer, GAME Golf shows that. 

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When I score well, my driving and putting are the reason for that. My approach and short game haven't really improved at all this season so far. 

Short game struggles today:

1) After leaving myself 50-something yards to the pin with my opening drive, I hit a lob wedge too short and had to chip onto the green.

2) On the second hole it took me two attempts with my pitching wedge from 40 yards or so to get on the green. Thankfully, my second attempt nearly went in the hole and I one-putted for bogey.

3) Left myself 90 yards to the pin on the par 5 No. 3 (my favorite distance), but caught too much of my 54 degree and was on the back fringe instead of the green.

So there's three strokes right there before I was even on the green... 

You're correct. Thinking about it now I really wasn't awful when I hit the green. Stats above show that, too. Thanks for the insight.

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1 hour ago, edingc said:

It's for all. I should break it out more, I keep it on my card as an additional stat. It's my approaches that are the killer, GAME Golf shows that. 

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When I score well, my driving and putting are the reason for that. My approach and short game haven't really improved at all this season so far. 

Short game struggles today:

1) After leaving myself 50-something yards to the pin with my opening drive, I hit a lob wedge too short and had to chip onto the green.

2) On the second hole it took me two attempts with my pitching wedge from 40 yards or so to get on the green. Thankfully, my second attempt nearly went in the hole and I one-putted for bogey.

3) Left myself 90 yards to the pin on the par 5 No. 3 (my favorite distance), but caught too much of my 54 degree and was on the back fringe instead of the green.

So there's three strokes right there before I was even on the green... 

You're correct. Thinking about it now I really wasn't awful when I hit the green. Stats above show that, too. Thanks for the insight.

If you are familiar with Harvey Penick, he had a very good player come to him for a putting lesson. Penick agreed and the player (at a loss as to his name right now) grabbed his putter and starting walking to the putting green. He turned looking for Penick, who was on his way to the range. The player caught up to him and said "I asked for a putting lesson" Penick replied "you putt fine, but you don't hit it close enough to the hole."

This is the case for probably every golfer. If on the tour a 50/50 putt is 8 feet, ours is obviously longer. Yes putting can really make or break a score but that happens too randomly for most people to rely on. In order to consistently improve you have to hit the ball closer. I used to average about 28 putts per round. Now I am just above 30. The difference I hit more GIR than before. But if I just focused on the putting stats I would think that I have gotten worse. 

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2 hours ago, Sluggo42 said:

One of my buddies was doing that and the final cure for him was simply going to a more neutral grip. Are you seeing 2 or 3 knuckles of your left hand at address?

Make sure you have a neutral right angle of stance to target line and soften your grip by one knuckle and have a few rips, and adjust your grip after a few good hits, until you dial it in.

youve got to be careful at how you go after this, as you don’t want to compound a problem with additional incorrect “cures”. If this doesn’t smooth the hook out, you’d better get an assessment from a pro to make sure your natural swing doesn’t have a little glitch that’s causing your problem...

Yes, I think it might be a grip issue as well. I will try that today and see how it helps me. Thank you for the analysis, I appreciate it. Keep you guys updated!

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Played in a tournament yesterday on Long Island at a course I had never played.  Fairly tight and fairly short with greens that were top dressed but not punched.  Hit driver twice all day and almost wore out the grooves on my four iron with tee balls.  My partner and I posted a respectable -9 to lose by 8 shots.   Even worse was that it was a six hour round......six hours to play 18 holes.  Never again at this event.

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1 hour ago, Jmikecpa said:

six hours to play 18 holes

Hooooly smokes. That's absolutely poking.

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85 today. Was experimenting with only hitting fades. Much better golf than yesterday. I bogeyed all four of the par 5’s and 3 of four the par 3’s. A double on a par 4 because of a lost ball in the fairway... caught a tree root in a side hill for a bogey.

Good game plan going forward. Only hitting fades unless a draw is called for.

Also, I need to get fit for a driver. I was hitting my 2 Hybrid 250, and my mini driver 230...?

Used the hybrid for all but 1 tee shot on the longer holes. If the fairways were cut a bit tighter I wouldn’t need anything more than that thing.

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4 hours ago, Jmikecpa said:

Played in a tournament yesterday on Long Island at a course I had never played.  Fairly tight and fairly short with greens that were top dressed but not punched.  Hit driver twice all day and almost wore out the grooves on my four iron with tee balls.  My partner and I posted a respectable -9 to lose by 8 shots.   Even worse was that it was a six hour round......six hours to play 18 holes.  Never again at this event.

That happened to me two weeks ago in my four-person scramble. No clue how we managed a six-hour round. Absolutely maddening.

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Started playing again after taking a lengthy for me break. Played 1 round in the last couple of weeks until a couple night ago. 
2 weeks ago I hit all but one fairway and stillshot 87. My game has been real good at times, but so has a steady diet of penalties, doubles, triples and even a quad or 2.
Ive played 9 each of the last 3 nigts and shot 37,41, and 38. One double in 27 holes and 3 birdies. One of a putt and 2 chip ins. 
A few suttle changes plus FINALLY pain free after carpal tunel surgery has helped find a bit of a game.See ifit holds and drops a stroe or two more as I have tournies coming up.
Focused on ball placement in my stance off the tee, holding clubs a bit farther down, and tempo have been the subtle keys. Hopingto be back in single digits next update then backin the 6/7 range mud July. 

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Played in a tournament yesterday on Long Island at a course I had never played.  Fairly tight and fairly short with greens that were top dressed but not punched.  Hit driver twice all day and almost wore out the grooves on my four iron with tee balls.  My partner and I posted a respectable -9 to lose by 8 shots.   Even worse was that it was a six hour round......six hours to play 18 holes.  Never again at this event.

6 hours, I would lose my mind. We have played 5+ in “hit & giggle” charity events years ago but 6 is ridiculous.


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11 hours ago, edingc said:

That happened to me two weeks ago in my four-person scramble. No clue how we managed a six-hour round. Absolutely maddening.

The scramble I played in last week was almost 6 hours and we later learned it was due to some guy a few groups in front of us who absolutely insisted on playing his own ball the entire 18. Refused to play by scramble rules. It was brutal. 

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48 minutes ago, russtopherb said:

The scramble I played in last week was almost 6 hours and we later learned it was due to some guy a few groups in front of us who absolutely insisted on playing his own ball the entire 18. Refused to play by scramble rules. It was brutal. 

Wow. That's unbelievable.

I think the group about three carts ahead of us just was playing very slowly. Didn't help that we shotgun started on a par 3 followed by a difficult par 4 where you must lay up before carrying a hazard to the green. This outing is on a pretty unforgiving course and also tends to field once-per-year golfers, which doesn't help pace of play any.

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