ctg44 Posted May 29 Share Posted May 29 https://www.espn.com/golf/story/_/id/40240096/charges-dropped-scottie-scheffler-louisville-arrest I expected this from the start, having done a lot of traffic control in bad weather myself. It was just a dumb decision to make this arrest under these circumstances and was a black eye that Louisville PD didn't need after the past few years of bad publicity. BallsLeon, Michael.Sandoval33, GolfSpy_KFT and 3 others 6 Quote Titleist GT2 8° (with 11 gram weight en route) Set to C1 with Graphite Design Tour AD-VF 6S Stiff (-1/2)" Shaft Callaway AiSmoke Triple Diamond - 15° 3-wood - Project X Denali 6.5 flex shaft - Set to N/S Taylormade P-UDI 2 iron (2023) with Recoil Dart F5 shaft (+1/2") TaylorMade P7MC (2020) with DG TI X100 Shafts (+1/2") 4-PW Edison 51° (bent to 50°) / 55° / 59° (bent to 60°) wedges with DG TI Onyx Black X100 Shafts at +5/8" Golf Pride ZGRIP Plus2 on all clubs Sik DW (2.0) C Series Putter in black finish (35") with Ping PP58 Cord Balls: Mostly Maxfli Tour Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BallsLeon Posted May 30 Share Posted May 30 Glad to see this distraction is behind Scottie now. Bummer to think this might have spoiled his chances at a Grand Slam. ZJeb67 and William P 2 Quote Driver : GBB Epic, 10.5° loft, autoFlex Dream7, SF405x flex (44.75") 3-Wood: Rogue ST LS, 15° loft, MCA TENSEI AV Blue 65g, Reg flex (42.25", tipped 0.5") 3-Hybrid: Z H85, 19° loft, HZRDUS Black 85g, 5.5 flex Irons: T350 5i & T200 6i-GW, 23°-48° lofts, Nippon Modus3 120g, Stiff flex (+0.5”, 1° upright) Wedges: JB Forged Raw 54° & 58° lofts, Nippon Modus3 120g, Reg flex (+0.5/0.25", 0.5° upright) Putter: DS72 C, 35”, PP60 grip Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vertical Posted May 31 Share Posted May 31 Arrested for making a right turn without permission? Bryan Gillis is yet another cop on a power trip. But criminalizing traffic behaviour as a felony?! Give me a break. Scheffler is no criminal. Send Gillis into a high crime neighborhood to stop violent criminals…not traffic offenders. William P, GolfSpy_KFT, ZJeb67 and 1 other 2 2 Quote Driver: Titleist TSR2 10 degree Tensei AV Blue 55 shaft Fairway woods: TaylorMade Burner 15 degree and Titleist TS2 18 degree Irons: Ping G425 irons 5-PW w/ Alta CB graphite shafts Wedges: Mizuno JPX 921 gap 51. Ping Glide sand wedge 56. Titleist Vokey SM-07 lob wedge 60 Grips: Golf Pride MCC midsize plus 4 Putter: Scotty Cameron Phantom (right and left handed) Balls: Titleist Pro V1 and Titleist Velocity Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MissionMan Posted May 31 Share Posted May 31 As a person who lives outside the USA, the way some of the police react to situations is hard for us to understand because we don't deal with it regularly. There seems to be a shoot first, ask questions later policy. In Australia, as an example, you can't just shoot a suspect running away. They would need to pose a danger to the officer or other people. If you shot a suspect running, there would be an enquiry. In the situation, as we saw with Scotty, cops wouldn't hang onto the car. They would take his registration number down, and he would be tracked down and fined later. There wasn't any reason to go for a big arrest for something like that. The officer put himself at risk for no reason. If they caught scotty later, a traffic fine for failing to stop when directed would have covered it without all the drama. Loses points on his license, fine to pay (if guilty). BallsLeon, Vertical, fixyurdivot and 3 others 6 Quote GT2 10° Project X HZRDUS 6.0 Black 5G 60 GT2 16.5° Project X HZRDUS 6.0 Black 5G 70 TSR2 18° HZRDUS Black 6.0 4G 2 Iron T200 Utility HZRDUS Black 6.0 4 Iron T200 Utility HZRDUS Black 6.0 T150 5- PW (44) Nippon Modus 3 Tour 105 Stiff Vokey SM9 48.10 F Grind, Vokey SM9 54.10 S Grind, Vokey SM9 60.08 M Grind, L.A.B DF3 Armlock Grip Master Tour Wrap Grips Garmin Z30 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ctg44 Posted May 31 Author Share Posted May 31 9 hours ago, MissionMan said: As a person who lives outside the USA, the way some of the police react to situations is hard for us to understand because we don't deal with it regularly. There seems to be a shoot first, ask questions later policy. In Australia, as an example, you can't just shoot a suspect running away. They would need to pose a danger to the officer or other people. If you shot a suspect running, there would be an enquiry. In the situation, as we saw with Scotty, cops wouldn't hang onto the car. They would take his registration number down, and he would be tracked down and fined later. There wasn't any reason to go for a big arrest for something like that. The officer put himself at risk for no reason. If they caught scotty later, a traffic fine for failing to stop when directed would have covered it without all the drama. Loses points on his license, fine to pay (if guilty). Trust me, at both departments I worked at as an officer myself, plus the one I work with most closely here in my current role, shooting at a fleeing felon or jumping on a car in an unnecessary escalation of a situation and then wanting to compound that by making a felony arrest would have resulted in a lot of problems. Northern Monkey, BobBC78, ZJeb67 and 5 others 8 Quote Titleist GT2 8° (with 11 gram weight en route) Set to C1 with Graphite Design Tour AD-VF 6S Stiff (-1/2)" Shaft Callaway AiSmoke Triple Diamond - 15° 3-wood - Project X Denali 6.5 flex shaft - Set to N/S Taylormade P-UDI 2 iron (2023) with Recoil Dart F5 shaft (+1/2") TaylorMade P7MC (2020) with DG TI X100 Shafts (+1/2") 4-PW Edison 51° (bent to 50°) / 55° / 59° (bent to 60°) wedges with DG TI Onyx Black X100 Shafts at +5/8" Golf Pride ZGRIP Plus2 on all clubs Sik DW (2.0) C Series Putter in black finish (35") with Ping PP58 Cord Balls: Mostly Maxfli Tour Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post mpatrickriley Posted May 31 Popular Post Share Posted May 31 10 hours ago, MissionMan said: In the situation, as we saw with Scotty, cops wouldn't hang onto the car. They would take his registration number down, and he would be tracked down and fined later. There wasn't any reason to go for a big arrest for something like that. The officer put himself at risk for no reason. If they caught scotty later, a traffic fine for failing to stop when directed would have covered it without all the drama. Loses points on his license, fine to pay (if guilty). I'm most certainly on the side of Scottie here, that the charges were grossly inflated given what appears to have happened. And yet, if we might put in any word in defense of Officer Gillis: a man had just been killed by a tour bus in front of the course. Traffic was being redirected because it was the scene of an investigation of a death. This wasn't a garden-variety situation of directing cars at an event. Again, I don't think the charges were remotely justified, and as best I can tell, the officer's reaction (and the conversation with the other officer in the patrol car) were both gross abuses of power. But keeping a car, whoever is driving, from entering an investigation scene of a death—that's not an utterly trivial matter. Northern Monkey, SliceBoss, Stuka44 and 7 others 10 Quote TS3 9.5°, Tensei Blue CBX E722 16.5°, Tensei AV RAW Blue 65 S Epic Super Hybrid 19°, Aerotech Steel Fiber FC HYB S C722 22°, Ventus Blue 8S CBX Iron-Wood 25°, Project X HZRDUS Black 6.0 Epic Forged 7 27° 639 CB, Aldila NV 95 Graphite, 7–PW Diamond Tour Inazone 3.0 50°, 54°, 58°, Aldila NV 95 Graphite DF3, Counterbalanced 37", TPT shaft, Garsen Quad Tour 17" Full WITB with pictures Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zgrabby11 Posted May 31 Share Posted May 31 Totally agree. Bad timing to make an arrest during a tragic event. Communication between the cops should’ve been better in my opinion with the way it sounds. Prayers and RIP to the family of the tragic morning! MissionMan, Stuka44, Mike10487 and 1 other 4 Quote Driver: Tour Edge C721 9 degree w/ Hzrdus RDX Smoke 3 wood: Tour edge C721 13.5 degree w/ Fujikura Ventus 6S Hybrid: Tour Edge C721 19 degree w/ Aldila Rogue Black TX Irons: 4-AW Titleist AP2 Forged 714 w/ Dynamic Gold S300 Wedges: Vokey SM8 54 degree w/ Dynamic Gold Spinner Shaft, Cleveland CBX Full Face 60 degree with Dynamic Gold Spinner Shaft Putter: Cleveland HB Soft #11 mallet putter w/ Super Stroke Claw 1.0 grip Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stuka44 Posted May 31 Share Posted May 31 (edited) I immediately got into an argument with someone at work. I could have written this outcome 5 minutes after it occurred. Before anyone questions my perspective, I retired after 30 years serving as a Road Patrol Sergeant for an agency who served a population of 52,000 people, and I was our, firearms, use of force , and deadly force instructor. Unfortunately things like this are going to occur more and more, as the number of applicants for police jobs go from 350 for one opening when I took a test in(1989), to 12 applicants for 4 openings(2018). Don't know his name but this is what I would tell him if I was his supervisor. "If your ego, and personality, results in you coming unhinged, because someone gets confused, on a dark, rainy, early morning, where flashing lights really only add to the confusion, and your first response is to try and grab the car, and then you try to compound this by blaming the operator of the vehicle, and then when he stops, you are so unglued you can't control your emotions/fear(even if its a fatal crash), you snatch the person out of their vehicle over something like this..... Then I am not apologetic in the least when I indicate You have very likely chosen(to take a crack at) the wrong profession, please resign ASAP, before you can do anymore harm to the profession, which is having a hard enough time lately. There is no shame, its just a fact that not everyone is cut out for, or has the mental make up, to be successful as a policeman." Edited May 31 by Stuka44 fixyurdivot, Siamese Moose, William P and 6 others 7 1 1 Quote Driver: Cobra King Speedzone Irons: Mavrik 4-GW Wedges: CG-14 56 & RTX 52 Hybrid: Callaway Apex Pro 2H Woods: Gigagolf 3W, Putter: Ping Scottsdale Wolverine Ball: Srixon Z-Star XV Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fixyurdivot Posted May 31 Share Posted May 31 Glad to hear that news. Quote G410 Plus, 9 Degree Driver G400 SFT, 16 Degree 3w G400 SFT, 19 Degree 5w ZX5 Irons 4-AW Glide 2.0 56 Degree SW (removed from double secret probation ) ER5v Putter (Official Review) AI-One Milled Seven T CH (Official Review) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MissionMan Posted May 31 Share Posted May 31 6 hours ago, GolfSpy MPR said: I'm most certainly on the side of Scottie here, that the charges were grossly inflated given what appears to have happened. And yet, if we might put in any word in defense of Officer Gillis: a man had just been killed by a tour bus in front of the course. Traffic was being redirected because it was the scene of an investigation of a death. This wasn't a garden-variety situation of directing cars at an event. Again, I don't think the charges were remotely justified, and as best I can tell, the officer's reaction (and the conversation with the other officer in the patrol car) were both gross abuses of power. But keeping a car, whoever is driving, from entering an investigation scene of a death—that's not an utterly trivial matter. 100% not questioning whether Scottie was at fault. Just indicating that even IF he was at fault, it wouldn't have been handled like this. From the other responses, it seems like it's only a small portion of the police who act this way. ctg44 1 Quote GT2 10° Project X HZRDUS 6.0 Black 5G 60 GT2 16.5° Project X HZRDUS 6.0 Black 5G 70 TSR2 18° HZRDUS Black 6.0 4G 2 Iron T200 Utility HZRDUS Black 6.0 4 Iron T200 Utility HZRDUS Black 6.0 T150 5- PW (44) Nippon Modus 3 Tour 105 Stiff Vokey SM9 48.10 F Grind, Vokey SM9 54.10 S Grind, Vokey SM9 60.08 M Grind, L.A.B DF3 Armlock Grip Master Tour Wrap Grips Garmin Z30 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike10487 Posted June 1 Share Posted June 1 16 hours ago, Stuka44 said: I immediately got into an argument with someone at work. I could have written this outcome 5 minutes after it occurred. Before anyone questions my perspective, I retired after 30 years serving as a Road Patrol Sergeant for an agency who served a population of 52,000 people, and I was our, firearms, use of force , and deadly force instructor. Unfortunately things like this are going to occur more and more, as the number of applicants for police jobs go from 350 for one opening when I took a test in(1989), to 12 applicants for 4 openings(2018). Don't know his name but this is what I would tell him if I was his supervisor. "If your ego, and personality, results in you coming unhinged, because someone gets confused, on a dark, rainy, early morning, where flashing lights really only add to the confusion, and your first response is to try and grab the car, and then you try to compound this by blaming the operator of the vehicle, and then when he stops, you are so unglued you can't control your emotions/fear(even if its a fatal crash), you snatch the person out of their vehicle over something like this..... Then I am not apologetic in the least when I indicate You have very likely chosen(to take a crack at) the wrong profession, please resign ASAP, before you can do anymore harm to the profession, which is having a hard enough time lately. There is no shame, its just a fact that not everyone is cut out for, or has the mental make up, to be successful as a policeman." NAILED IT! Quote Incredible recovery shots are set up by an equally incredible miss. D- Cobra Aerojet 8.0 Hzrdus Blue S. FW- Callaway Mavrik 3&5 wood Srixon ZX MkII 2 iron Callaway Epic forged E19 4-GW Taylormade MG 3 56 degree 10 bounce (personal grind to 6 degrees or so) Cameron Furtura F5r / Odessey Ai One Three T Maxfli Tour and Tour X Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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