Popular Post GolfSpy_APH Posted August 5 Popular Post Share Posted August 5 Are you ready to take your golf game to the next level? We're annoucing a unique opportunity for four passionate golfers to test and review the new HackMotion 2.0! About HackMotion HackMotion is working hard to revolutionize golf training through advanced technology and innovative design. Founded with a passion for helping golfers of all levels improve their skills, HackMotion provides cutting-edge solutions that deliver precise, real-time feedback on swing mechanics. Straight From HackMotion: “Our mission is to empower golfers with the tools they need to achieve their full potential, combining the latest in wearable technology with user-friendly software. Whether you're a beginner or a seasoned pro, Hackmotion is here to help you master your swing and elevate your game.” Product Overview HackMotion 2.0 is their latest innovation in golf swing analysis technology. This wearable device provides detailed insights into your swing mechanics, helping you identify areas for improvement and track your progress over time. With enhanced accuracy and user-friendly features, Hackmotion 2.0 is designed to cater to golfers of all skill levels. Key Features: Real-time feedback on wrist angles and swing positions Detailed analytics and performance tracking Intuitive app interface for easy data review Personalized training recommendations Suitable for all levels of golfers Please welcome and congratulate our testers @vandyland @NotScratchYet @Glenmore5 @Will A TSauer, TAGolf13, Fiveslow and 20 others 11 8 4 Quote as of Nov 6, 2023 (Past WITB) Driver: Paradym TD w/ GD ADDI 6X Driver Shootout! Wood: F7 3 wood 14.5* w/ Motore F1 Shaft Irons: T Series - T200 5 Iron T150 6-9 Iron T100 PW/GW Wedge: Toura Golf - A Spec 53,37,61 degree Putter: Mezz Max! Balls: Vice Pro Plus Drip (Blue/Orange) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vandyland Posted August 5 Share Posted August 5 (edited) About Me: I live in Tennessee and I have been playing golf for 6 years (also turned 40 this year). With multiple children and a job, this is about my only hobby so I take it fairly seriously from a practice/technique standpoint. I am of the opinion that if I am going to take 4-5 hrs per week away from hanging with my kids, I should at least be the very best I can be at this sport. I spend a lot of time analyzing my swing with and without an instructor and one of my issues is wrist angles and movement in the swing. My handicap swings from 1.5 - 5.5 and seems to be heavily dependent on my full swing. Typical ball flight is a pull draw which I presume comes from clubface that is closed to the path too much (have confirmed this on Trackman) so I typically need to have a more open clubface (relative to path). Onto the HackMotion, I believe this training device will be good for both the "dojo" (more on that below) and the range. I plan on getting baseline results (for wrist angles) that I will insert into this post and see how much improvement I can obtain in a few months. As a side note, I am a disciple of Monte Scheinblum who teaches a wrist "cast" from the top but also is a big proponent of the HackMotion device so it should be congruent with his instruction. I have some fairly good surface level knowledge of this product as I have watched a number of Scott Cowx and HackMotion videos on the unit's functionality. I can also use Trackman to note changes in my path/face angle etc. I am very excited to finally have data on the correct wrist angle "feels" as I have had to try to undo the initial teachings I had that taught a "toe up" position in the back swing which is, ultimately, a club face that is quite open. I have a fairly long and detailed practice thread on this forum so I am not stranger to working on my swing and to have this kind of technological guidance is truly a tremendous blessing. My expectations: I anticipate that this device will (a) train my wrists on being set correctly in the backswing and through impact (b) I believe this will help my ball start more on the target line or slightly right of it rather than left of target and (c) lead to more consistent contact through impact. While I don't expect it, I will be curious to see what happens to my path/face to path/spin/carry through this process. The Dojo (aka my practice setup in the courtyard of my house): The range were I practice 2-3x per week: First Impressions (9.25 out of 10): Pictures will do more than my words mostly but the HackMotion comes in a compact carrying case that could easily fit into a bag. There are not a ton of pieces which is helpful if you have a habit of losing things. All in all there is the sensor which can be attached to either a golf clip or a palm strap depending on how you want to affix the HackMotion sensor to track your movements and the sensor is connected to a wrist strap. Also a charging cord (USB) and all are in a fairly neutral black finish with some light blue mixed in. Carrying case has some structure to it which would protect your sensor somewhat from getting crushed if you bag rolled in the back of your car but won't survive you sitting on it (not that it should). The securing system is adjustable and velcro based and feels like it will somewhat hold up over time. The sensor connects VERY easily to your app once it is downloaded and paired and glows BLUE when it is on. I have used the sensor in about 6 sessions so far and have had ZERO disconnects. My only detracting points are the wrist strap feels a tad bit flimsy but I have had no issues getting it secured and fitting snugly so I may be judging harshly here. The overall method with the sensor is to track the movement/angles of your wrist throughout your swing in 3 Dimensions. Flexion/Extension, Ulnar/Radial Deviation and rotation which are explained thusly: The crux of the HackMotion is that their standard ranges are based off your position at setup and from there you have a certain range you can/should deviate from that setup at position. The range is not incredibly restrictive and will work if you have a strong grip (you will be more in "extension" at setup), neutral grip or weak grip (close to zero extension and possible slightly in "flexion"). The app is fairly easy to navigate so far and has a clean appearance. The HackMotion has a few different "modes" which I am showing below and will also have links to detailed posts on each (see appendix at the bottom of post): Aesthetics (8.5 out of 10): The device itself and the app are clean and straightforward in design and look. Not a lot of superfluous branding on the device itself and very easy to tell if it is on or off and connected via the large diode on the wrist sensor. The strap allows it to fit a variety of wrist sizes so multiple users can use this device (which is especially helpful for a coach). The storage case is fairly sturdy with a zipper closure that so far has held up well to being moved in and out of golf bags, cars, desks, etc. I have deducted several points due to the issue I encountered with the strap. It has small velcro ovals glued to it in order to accommodate different wrist sizes. I had a strap where those ovals came off within about a month of having the device. I requested a new strap which was provided promptly and free of charge by HackMotion but I am a bit concerned about the long term life of these straps. It does not appear as though you could easily glue back on the velcro nor could you use a watch band strap (as far as I could tell) so you will, seemingly, have to get another strap from HackMotion. Again, they provided it promptly but the short amount of time that the last strap lasted gives me pause on its durability. The Numbers (18.5 out of 20): Off the top, the numbers are reliable as far as I can tell. The HackMotion is measuring your starting position, top of the backswing and then impact and helping you interpret what types of differences are acceptable and which are not. On the "Flexion/Extension" there is a nice training setup for issues if you are out of range and this comes with the core package. I think this is the heart of the wrist sensor and monitoring these angles is its key focus. There are also numbers for ulnar/radial deviation and rotation which has less "guidance" associated with them. There is not a training regime for you if you struggle to consistently match these off at impact vs setup. Also, chasing ulnar/radial and rotation numbers without really being a qualified coach can be a frustrating exercise. I will talk about that more in "play it or trade it." Specifically on the "Flexion/Extension" numbers, I have found that I struggled to be within their ranges. I have a fairly bowed wrist at the top which is generally on the edge of acceptable and many times out of the range. Trying to fix that has been a series of fits and starts. The challenging thing is I am actually hitting the ball fairly well at the moment so it is hard to really want to put more extension in my position at the top because that has lead to some flares to the right that I don't normally see. There are drills that help you find that sweet spot, slowly, and then build into the full swing but I just haven't really married good ballflight with those wrist positions as yet. The numbers on putting really surprised me. I thought putting was going to be an afterthought but the numbers from the HackMotion led me to change my ball position (slightly) and my grip (completely) in search of a more stable rotational number. Even without any real coaching, I think the putting is the easiest to interpret and change because the actual stroke is fairly simple. I implemented a grip change basically overnight after testing it against my standard grip. That was quite amazing. On Course (18 out of 20): This device is simple to setup and use. Starting a session, calibrating and starting to hit balls probably takes 30 seconds, tops. I discussed trying to play an actual round with the HackMotion device but ultimately decided against since that is fairly far outside of the bounds of what this device was used for...so the "on-course" here refers to practice on the range, simulator or putting mat/green. I enjoyed using it however, at times, I was unsure if I had it setup exactly the same each time. For example, at times my setup numbers (extension, primarily) would be dramatically different than the previous session. I chalk that up to just getting used to setting it at the same place on my wrist at all times. There is a wrist clip for a glove but I preferred the strap across my bare hand for accuracy's sake. I definitely prefer this as a wrist monitoring device instead of those wrist angle devices that stop you at a certain point. If you want that kind of feedback, you can get that via the sound/vibration feature which is nice. Biggest change I have seen in my swing/ballflight is that I determined through the "Free Practice Mode" is that I was rotating way too much coming into impact and after impact. My rotation number post impact was almost double that of my rotation 1/2 down in the backswing so I was kind of "saving it" at the bottom which led to some big hooks when I over did it. I have since reduced the forearm roll through the ball and my ball flight has straightened out, most notably with my driver. Now I have almost a slight fade with the ball (mostly straight) vs my previous life as a hooker (sorry mom). This also carries over into my pitching and chipping which was also improved as you don't probably want a lot of forearm roll in that pitching and chip motion. Another significant change that has carried over from the HackMotion to the course is my putting grip! I used the HackMotion putting analyzer (see appendix below for links detailed posts on putting tests) and determined that my standard putting grip was making it hard to return to square at impact. After testing out several grips, I found that the "claw/saw" grip was the most stable for me...by a clear margin. I moved on from the standard grip right away and started putting with the claw/saw and while it is early days the putts stay on line much longer and feel more solid. As someone who hates putting practice, this actually makes it a bit of a game to try and stay really stable and consistent. Who knows, HackMotion might make me a decent putter yet! The Good, the Bad, the Inbetween (17 out of 20): The good is you cannot "trick" this device with a crazy swing. One thing I tried was to see if I could do a really really flat swing where I got all my wrist angles right, but the HackMotion wouldn't register it as a backswing. Same with an EXTREMELY upright golf swing. It can measure your wrist in space and knows when you are not making a reasonable effort at a golf swing, I think that is actually a fairly sophisticated feature. It logs all your prior data sessions which you can name and put notes on and has dates and time stamps. Also, you can bookmark good (or bad) swings for later that you can name and put notes on also. This is helpful for measuring progress and "feels" I think. The Bad is the aforementioned durability of the strap in my experience but also the price of this device. I think almost $1000 for the full device is quite steep and hard to imagine many amateurs buying the "Pro" version. For a coach that fully understands that, it probably makes all the sense in the world. But having just the core model for $300 is still fairly expensive AND you are just teased by knowing all the other information that is behind the paywall. I understand this is nothing new in the software world and a tiered pricing structure allows the individual buyers to decide what they want to pay for but I will say this is on the expensive side of the training aid market for sure. The Pro mode does give you access to all the putting information which turned out to be way more valuable to me than I originally thought but even so, spending that kind of money to find that out when I could potentially discover that in a session with a pro and a putting analyzer like HackMotion or a competitor would possibly have yielded the same result. The inbetween is hard for me to describe but I will put it like this "What do you do when you are hitting the ball well but outside the ranges on flexion/extension?" And then making moves back to be within the ranges yields a bad ballflight or impact sensation? Do you chase that or do you just keep what you have? I am in that boat right now. I am playing (for me) good golf but I am a bit outside the range at the top (I am too flexed or "bowed" for the devices' liking) on about 30% of my swings. When I make an effort to be more extended I start losing the ball right (fades/slices). So do I chase that or stick where I am? I feel like a coach almost has to make that call. There are a number of coaches that use and understand HackMotion and I believe HackMotion can refer you to coaches as well. So again, I think trying to fly completely solo with the "Pro" version is probably going to be quite overwhelming for most amateurs. Play it or Trade It (16 out of 20): I believe I will continue to use the HackMotion, particularly with my putting stroke, but there is a limit to how much I will rely on it vs actual ballflight and impact feel. Being within all the ranges and hitting a terrible shot is going to be less impactful to me than being slightly outside of the ranges and flushing it. It is still good to use for position checks and I think the "biofeedback" feature (it vibrates or makes a sound or both when you are "in range") is great because it keeps you from checking behind you or in a mirror which can lead to the nasty habit of moving your eyes during your ACTUAL swing. So why the lower rating? Well, simply put it is a very expensive piece of kit and I hope/expect them to build out some additional training modules. There is is something to be said that the HackMotion admits not all tour swings fit in their ranges so I think I want to stay in the general vicinity without being wholly committed to ALWAYS being in range on it. Again, I had some positive changes and takeaways from the device and my overall experience has been positive. This is an amazing amount of information...but it must also be interpreted and I wasn't always up to that task. Conclusion With great power comes great responsibility. This device does EXACTLY what it claims to do which is it measures wrist positions throughout the swing in a repeatable and comparable manner. What it does not always do is tell you "Ok now is this good or bad and how do you fix it" for those numbers other than Flexion/Extension. Some items you can infer what to do, like I did with putting, and that proved to be very impactful to how I putt now AND made putting practice more enjoyable (I hate putting practice). I still maintain this is probably more useful for a coach (namely the "Pro" version) to use with students than for an amateur to just turn loose on by themselves but I think there is a ton of potential in this device. I was impressed by it and I think if they can pair it with more customized interpretation and guidance for the other metrics it could be a homerun. Final Score: 87.25 APPENDIX -- APPENDIX -- APENDIX -- APPENDIX -- APPENDIX -- APPENDIX -- APPENDIX -- APENDIX -- APPENDIX -- APPENDIX These are links to more detailed posts within this thread.... Guided Practice (is available on all versions of the HackMotion - core, plus and pro) - Runs a diagnostic on your swing and then recommends drills from there. Only focuses on "Flexion/Extension" which HackMotion prioritizes over the other metrics listed above - full swing analysis -- LINK TO DETAILED POST ON GUIDED PRACTICE!!! --> https://forum.mygolfspy.com/topic/65910-hackmotion-20-2024-forum-review/?do=findComment&comment=1116268 Also you can do specific drills as well if you already have done the diagnostic a lot and need to train one specific pattern or range: Putting Experience (only available on plus and pro, only pro has "rotation" which is think is most important honestly) - Shows you data on your putting stroke. Will give you flexion/extension, ulnar/radial, rotation, tempo and there are benchmark tour player graphs for different length putts. For me, if you are using this for putting you must have rotation data for face opening and closure through impact. That is the single most important metric (to me) and it is not even close. There is not really any diagnostic or training to help you if you have a crazy looking stroke but you can glean some things from the data. I also experimented with ball position and had some interesting results in terms of wrist movement -- LINK TO DETAILED POST ON PUTTING EXPERIENCE --> https://forum.mygolfspy.com/topic/65910-hackmotion-20-2024-forum-review/?do=findComment&comment=1116987 Putting Grip post -- https://forum.mygolfspy.com/topic/65910-hackmotion-20-2024-forum-review/?do=findComment&comment=1131624 -- this builds off of the Putting experience post where I experimented with different grips to see if standard vs saw grip vs left hand low yielded less wrist movement. Free Practice/Full Data Mode - (this is radial/ulnar data on full swing along with the flexion/extension which is only available on Pro, you can still do free practice on the other modes you just won't get this data) - this is where you can get lost in the weeds (and I did). This is ALL the data but you really only get coaching on the flexion/extension at the moment. Edited 6 hours ago by vandyland Josh Parker, Michael.Sandoval33, NotScratchYet and 2 others 2 3 Quote STZ 230 9.5* / Pro Fli-Hi 21* MALTBY TS1-IM 5-GW Equalizer II 54* / Carnoustie 60* L.A.B. Directed Force 2.1 HackMotion Official Review -- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NotScratchYet Posted August 5 Share Posted August 5 (edited) HackMotion 2.0 - Official MGS Forum Review by NotScratchYet Introduction About Me Hello spies! Congrats testers. I am a rapidly aging 47-year-old with an 8-ish handicap with continuing dreams and aspirations to reach scratch golf. Married with three busy kids, golf is my passion. Started the game in my late teens and took a step back from the game when my kids were babies. I now practice daily thanks to my garage setup (amazing wife) which allows me to practice in between …well, life. I have been exercising regularly and just completed my first round with the stack speed system failing just short of my clubhead speed goal of 115mph at 114.6mph. My game in order from best to worst is driving, ball striking, short game, and putting. Maybe HackMotion 2.0 is the missing piece to scratch golf, and finally shoot a round in the 60s. Location I play golf in the SW portion of the Virginia mountains on most occasions. Hilly terrain, tight tree-lined holes, with some courses in the area being long (7k +). This past week we played at the Norman course in Barefoot Landing at Myrtle Beach. Our goal is to get better over the next few years and bring home the championship golf bags from the Father-Son golf tournament in Myrtle but mostly have fun. My son this week @ Barefoot Norman Golf Course. I was looking into this device during the first iteration when it was released and was curious to see if the claims of improving ball striking were accurate. I also wanted to test the differences between the Core, Plus, and Pro versions. Most of my testing scenarios consisted of me hitting into my net into the garage. This is where I record my swing and test adjustments using the Flight Scope Mevo +. What does HackMotion2.0 measure? Well, here it is.... These are the key ingredients of the device and what it is checking. For the first few times working with this tool, I had to check these images often to make sure I understood what was being displayed. First Impressions : (10 out of 10) I love the look of this device and the included carrying case. The blue interior offers a great contrast to the dark exterior and contents making it easy to locate the few contents inside. The first thing I noticed was there was no power block included. This is to be expected as very few companies include the actual power block anymore. Aesthetics: (10 out of 10) Device and App: Setting up this device and getting it ready for use is one of the fastest and easiest times I have had with technology. The application and connectivity to the device just works...period. I cannot state this enough. I was extremely impressed with the connection to the app and the lack of issues when connecting the device to it. Device fitment: The portion of the strap with the blue border goes around the forearm and is easily adjustable. With my meaty hands, the strap that goes around the palm is also adjustable and fits fine. I found over time I preferred to have the strap on the tighter side to prevent excess movement when training with HackMotion 2.0. This did not deter or hinder my swing in any manner which I was surprised by. I originally thought I would prefer the clip that goes on the velcro of the glove but mostly kept the included palm strap on for most sessions. Changing from the strap to the clip is easy and just takes a couple of minutes. No issues with hairy arms either!! The Numbers: (19 out of 20) HackMotion2.0 divides the golfer into 3 different patterns (A, B, and C). When learning it is important to understand which release pattern you fall into as the instruction type follows that pattern. Being a type A pattern, HackMotion quickly diagnosed me with the issue of too much flexion at impact. HackMotion will show an example of what you are doing and then offer a guided practice session to correct this issue. I found that I did not utilize the guided practice often but would use HackMotion to check my positions when I strayed too much. For me, the setup, use, and processes to understand your swing pattern helped me greatly in the translation between feel and real. I initially focused on rotation as that was far off from the Pro swing graphs available to compare your numbers to. This ultimately was not my main issue as reducing the amount of radial and flexion difference from address through my swing resulted in improved ball striking. Oddly enough, my rotation numbers increased without focusing on that aspect. Battery life and charging: Battery life is surprisingly long. Out of the box, the battery had enough charge available for me and my son to go through a discovery and practice session. Once plugged into a power brick (not included) it was fully charged in less than an hour. Other facts: I did not seek outside advice on how to utilize the device. I think this is a long-term plan. Although I found something in my swing very quickly that I felt improved my contact I believe it will be a great tool to use when things feel off. You can review prior training sessions to see when you were hitting it well to what you may be doing wrong now. One reviewer made an important note that you can log notes during practice sessions to review later. 1 week into utilizing HackMotion my mid-long irons were vastly improved, but my driver and short irons had a setback. On-Course: (17 out of 20) Has the HackMotion translated to better performance on the course? I think so, I feel I have a better understanding of my swing and tendencies when I am not swinging well. I have not utilized the HackMotion while playing a round of golf. My utilization of this tool is during practice sessions mostly in the comfort of my garage. *A key feature I enjoy with this device is using it at a public range. You can change the feedback from audible to haptic (vibrations). This allows you to use the device without disturbing others on the range. Que the discussion of music on the course, The Good, the bad, the inbetween: (16 out of 20) My goal this year was to produce a round in the 60s for a PB. I have not achieved this but have not given up hope. I feel the HackMotion has put a focus on my wrist positions which has translated into better ball striking. My driver and short irons are starting to dial in a bit more but currently, I am going long on most of my wedge shots from 70-120 yards. Is that a good thing that I need to dial in more? I am not sure. Overall I have seen great improvements in striking but mainly consistency. I tried to get it to help with my putting, I've watched videos provided by HackMotion, compared graphs, and practiced a lot. I do not think I have seen much improvement in this area. What I have learned from the research and using HackMotion, is every putting stroke is not the same. Consistency is key. I'm just not there yet. Play it or Trade it? (18 out of 20) I mentioned it prior, but I believe this to be a long-term tool. Also, I believe I will utilize it as a checkup intermittently on my golf swing. I think HackMotion provides immediate feedback on understanding "Your Swing". The ability to help translate feel and real is another viable option in addition to videoing your swing. HackMotion fits in well in this regard. Although, after saying that does the Pro version fit most golfers? No! I do not see the need to spend $1000 for most golfers on the pro version. While the pro version offers some interesting data and Graphs to compare against Pro players. I do not see that fitting into my budget. I have a similar feeling towards to Pro version. The core would be the sweet spot for most, even though for me, that is on the pricey side as well. Suggested improvements: Tempo training. There is a tempo reading that is displayed during certain practice sessions but it seems underutilized in the application. I think the Pro or Plus version is better suited for teaching professionals. While the feedback, training videos, and information provided are excellent, I think it takes some greater understanding of the golf swing to fully unlock and understand the potential of this tool. Conclusion (TLDR): Core version - possibly Pro version - Probably not Pro version - No, although pretty cool information The device is great in translating feels and reals. I "think" I have improved my swing and ball striking. The claim of lowering handicaps quickly...kind of. If I were to average my scores pre and post HackMotion I have shaved some strokes off my game. Is this due to more practice, swing speed training, and increased concentration on the course or HackMotion2.0? I think all of it has contributed to me shaving 3-4 shots off every round I play. There is so much to the golf swing, pivot, concentration, alignment, weight transfer, wrist conditions, and tempo. HackMotion does a great job in one of these areas. Final Score: (90 out of 100) Edited 5 hours ago by NotScratchYet fourwaymiss, Michael.Sandoval33, SANDBGGR and 3 others 3 3 Quote Driver: Callaway Epic Irons: 4-PW Callaway Apex Wedges: 1 Vokey in 52, 1 Callaway in 60, and a Callaway in 56 Putter: All over the place, Titleist SC Circa 62 model 3 mostly in the bag. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glenmore5 Posted August 5 Share Posted August 5 (edited) Placeholder Ok...here goes with my initial intro of myself and expectations... I am a septuagenarian and live in the Lower Blue Mountains of Sydney Australia..After hanging up my soccer boots,my wife suggested that I take up golf...my response....you are kidding....that game ?.....that was some 40 years ago...I was hooked and now play 3 times a week...vets/open/weekend comps...I play at a links course @Mulgoa...we have 27 holes and play '2' of those...a white course rated 137 and a blue one rated 148... Have repped in various match play's for the club..vets (over 55's)...Masters (over 50's) and Super Seniors (over 65's).. Enough about me....I am very excited about "Hack Motion"....entering this with my eyes open...until I read up on the offer...I had never heard of this training aid... Am working on my swing plane...so this seems and ideal opportunity.. Will advise further once when the aid arrivesPlace... Edited August 11 by Glenmore5 Placeholder intro.. Phil33T, Michael.Sandoval33, SANDBGGR and 2 others 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Will A Posted August 5 Share Posted August 5 (edited) Introduction Hello, fellow golf enthusiasts! I'm Will (very original handle) and I'm excited and honored to bring you my insights on the latest golf equipment. As a golfer approaching forty, I've spent many hours on the greens and fairways of some of Bluegrass State's finest courses. With a very honest handicap of 27, I approach the game with a blend of passion and humility, always eager to improve and enjoy every round. Golf hasn’t always been a significant part of my life. I played daily in my youth but gave up on the game for over a decade before picking it back up about five years ago. This adult reuptake has offered both challenges and moments of pure joy. As a former collegiate distance swimmer (DIII – I’m no Katie Ledecky!), I am competitive and athletic, but lack a certain amount of hand-eye coordination and, increasingly, range of motion. In this product test, I'm pumped to be evaluating the HackMotion 2.0 to see how it performs in real-world conditions. With a young family, consistency has been a struggle, and I hope the HackMotion will aid in improving the immediacy of feedback and efficiency of my practice sessions. I currently use the Golfshot app paired to my Apple Watch and iPhone, which has some swing statistics and feedback, so it will be particularly interesting to see how the two compare. One of the things I’m most looking forward to is the drills built around the sensors’ capabilities. I think there is some real potential here to help with some of my common misses. Whether you're a fellow high-handicapper or just interested in the latest gear, I hope my insights will help you make informed decisions for your own game. Let's dive in and see what this equipment has to offer! First Impressions - 9 out of 10 The box was smaller and lighter than I’d expected. That’s largely because there’s practically nothing in there but the essentials consisting of a case (about the size and weight of a sunglasses case), the sensor with your choice of attachment (hand strap or glove clip), a charging cord, and a folded slip of paper with basic instructions. I may technically be a millennial, but I still love the tactile sensations of well-designed promotional literature. In full recognition that it saves on design, printing, and shipping costs (and the obsolescence that comes with updates), I deducted a point for the spartan contents. If I’d dropped a grand on this gadget, I’d expect more. With that negative out of the way, everything else is fantastic! If you can’t manage to download an app and press the one button the sensor, you shouldn’t be buying this device. A few quick questions about your game and goals, and you are on your way. Next, you calibrate the device, which simply involves holding your forearm and wrist horizontal, then raising to 30-45 degrees and hitting a button in the app. Then the magic happens! RPReplay_Final1723827376.mov I have experienced seen some augmented reality art installations that were pretty cool, but watching a robotic arm appear on the screen like a cyborg mirror of your own arm is wild! Guffaw and grin-inducing, for sure. First real test was some putting practice on the mat in my basement. The HM gives instant feed back on whether your wrist angles stayed in the desired range, and gives you lots of metrics to review. This year, I’ve averaged 39.4 putts per round, which is about average according to published stats for my handicap. If my home course didn’t have notoriously challenging greens that routinely stimp in the 11-13 range, I’m sure that number would be lower. I have confidence in my putting stroke, just not my green-reading or distance control. Initial tests with the HM confirm that I have a pretty solid putting stroke. I haven’t yet figured out if, or how, it will give analysis or recommendations for putting drills. But just having something to remind me if my movement is jerky or out of range will be helpful. I’ve just barely dipped into the swing analysis so far, but initial results are encouraging for the possibilities. The sensor needs the vibration of a ball strike to recognize and analyze a swing. Unfortunately, I haven’t had time to make it to the course/range yet. However, through trial I found that it will (sometimes) pick up the vibrations from a whiffle-type practice ball that the neighbor’s kid routinely leaves in my backyard. After 10 measured swings with a spare wedge (aimed at the back wall of my house, since I don’t have a net), the app was ready to make some recommendations. Unsurprisingly, this high-handicapper’s swing could use some work. I can’t wait to start trying the drills and developing better swing habits. My expectations are high, and I will be disappointed if this device doesn’t lead to several strokes off my handicap in short order! Edited August 16 by Will A Unboxing jlofgren22, Josh Parker, Michael.Sandoval33 and 1 other 3 1 Quote Driver: G410 10.5 - Fujikura Vista Pro 55 R Woods: RocketBallz 3W, G425 Max 5W - Alta CB R Irons: Ben Hogan PTx Pro 4-Pw, UST Recoil 780 ES SW F4 Wedges: Ben Hogan Equalizer II - 50* (Tx Grind), 56*, 60* Putter: Mizzuno M Craft OMOI 02 Blue Ion Ball: Pro V1x Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GolfSpy_APH Posted August 6 Author Share Posted August 6 Will be following closely to decide if it is right to upgrade or not. I hear they have a lot of cool things coming with HackMotion. TJ Hall, sirchunksalot, NotScratchYet and 2 others 5 Quote as of Nov 6, 2023 (Past WITB) Driver: Paradym TD w/ GD ADDI 6X Driver Shootout! Wood: F7 3 wood 14.5* w/ Motore F1 Shaft Irons: T Series - T200 5 Iron T150 6-9 Iron T100 PW/GW Wedge: Toura Golf - A Spec 53,37,61 degree Putter: Mezz Max! Balls: Vice Pro Plus Drip (Blue/Orange) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TJ Hall Posted August 6 Share Posted August 6 Congratulations testers! Really interested to hearing your thoughts on this! William P, sirchunksalot, Josh Parker and 1 other 4 Quote TaylorMade SIM 2 Max Driver TaylorMade Sim Ti 3 wood Titleist U505 Hybrid (3H) TaylorMade Tour Preferred CB Irons (4-PW) Vokey SM8 Wedges (52/56/60) Odyssey Ai-ONE 7S Putter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rearviewmirror Posted August 6 Share Posted August 6 Congrats to the testers! I'll be very interested to hear how this goes. Particularly of interest to me is whether you feel like it helps with consistent takeaway in terms of path/face angle. William P, Josh Parker, NotScratchYet and 1 other 4 Quote Ping G430 Max 10K (10.5º) Review Post - Ping G425 Max 3W (14.5º) - Ping G425 Max 5W (18.5º) - Ping G425 Max 4 Hybrid - Ping G430 Max 9W - Ping i230 6-UW - s159 54º (S-grind) and 58º (B-grind) - LAB Golf DF3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rkj427 Posted August 6 Share Posted August 6 Congratulations to this group of testers. Looking forward to seeing the improvements/enhancements of this version. Josh Parker, sirchunksalot, NotScratchYet and 1 other 4 Quote Driver & Fairway: Titleist GT2 8 degree - Ventus TR Red & TSR3 15 - Hzrdus Black Gen 4 Hybrid: TSR2 21 degree - Hzrdus Black Gen 4 Irons: Titleist T200 3G (4) & T150 - (5-G) - Modus 105 Wedges: Vokey SM9 54, and 58 Putter: Cameron Phantom X 5 Ball: Pro V1 & Maxfli Tour Link to Motocaddy M7 w/Remote Trolley & Bag Review Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TSauer Posted August 6 Share Posted August 6 Congrats, testers! I'm curious on this one. I used something similar called Zepp many, many years ago so this stuff intrigues me. sirchunksalot, Josh Parker, William P and 1 other 4 Quote Driver: Aerojet 9* | Hzrdus Black Gen 4 Fairway: G410 3W 13* | Alta CB 65 Hybrid: TS2 18* | Tensei AV Blue 70 S Hybrid: iCrossover 20* | Kai'li White 80 Irons: P790 5-PW | DG S300 Wedges: Vokey SM9 | 52, 56, 60 | DG S200 Putter: Link.1 | Accra x LAB --- LAB Golf Link.1 Review --- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ejgaudette Posted August 6 Share Posted August 6 Congrats testers should be an interesting and fun test. NotScratchYet, Josh Parker, sirchunksalot and 1 other 4 Quote Epic Max LS 9° Ventus Blue 6X (2021 Official Review) | Epic Speed 18° Evenflow Riptide 70g 6.0 816 H1 21° Diamana S+ Blue 70 S | SMS 4-5/SMS Pro 6-PW Steelfiber i95 S (2023 Official Review) Glide 4.0 50°.12°S/54°.14°W/58°.6°T PING Z-Z115 Wedge Flex | SOFT 11S Super Stroke Mid-Slim 2.0 Hoofer Bag | Pro V1 | Right Handed | Tracked by V3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shrek74 Posted August 6 Share Posted August 6 18 hours ago, GolfSpy_APH said: Please welcome and congratulate our testers @vandyland @NotScratchYet @Glenmore5 @Will A Congrats to the testers!! I have the gen 1 version and am very interested in hearing your opinion about the gen 2 and if it's worth me upgrading. Good luck!! sirchunksalot, Josh Parker, William P and 1 other 4 Quote Driver: STMax 230 10.5*, Stiff HZRDUS Smoke Blue RDX, 60g Fairways: 949x 3w / 5w, 15* / 18*, Stiff HZRDUS Smoke Red RDX, 70g Hybrids: 939x 4h, 21*, Stiff HZRDUS Smoke Red RDX, 80g Hybrid Irons: JPX923 Hot Metal Pro, 5-GW, UST Mamiya Recoil 95 F4 Wedges: S23, 54* & 60*, UST Mamiya Recoil 95 F4 Putter: Moment X Tour @ 35" & 71*, Super Stroke Pistol GT 2.0, White/Red Ball: Tour CG Technology: Anarch Rangefinder, V5 w/ Tags Shot Tracking. https://forum.mygolfspy.com/topic/65161-vortex-optics-rangefinders-2024-member-test/?do=findComment&comment=1089247 https://forum.mygolfspy.com/classifieds/ - DON'T FORGET ABOUT THE CLASSIFIEDS!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xOldBenKenobiX Posted August 6 Share Posted August 6 Congrats testers @vandyland, @NotScratchYet, @Glenmore5 and @Will A vandyland, NotScratchYet, Glenmore5 and 5 others 8 Quote My Reviews: 2023 Official review - Rapsodo MLM2Pro! 2022 Official Review - Edel SMS Wedges 2021 Official Review - Tommy Armour Impact 3 Putter 2020 Official Member Review - BagBoy Chiller Cart Bag Cobra SpeedZone Xtreme - Unofficial Review by xOldBenKenobiX Honma TR21 4 Wood - Unofficial Review by xOldBenKenobiX Driver - Cobra SpeedZone Xtreme 10.5, UST helium 5 Wood - . TR21 4 Wood, Vizard 20-60 and TW GS 5 Wood Vixard FD 55 301 Combo 301CB and 301MB . SMS 48*, 56*, 60* Putter: Lucky golf putter. Ball: : ProV1, :: Smart Sensors. Shoes: a couple :: A couple of A couple of Adidas , Yeah I have a shoe addiction.:: Started at 79mph, finished 1st stage at 91mph Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkie07 Posted August 6 Share Posted August 6 Congratulations. Excited to hear the feedback on the 2.0 William P and vandyland 2 Quote Driver - Titleist GT3 10 - Ventus Black 6s 3W - TSR2 - Tensei Blue 5W TSR3 - Tensei 1K Black Irons - Mizuno 245 Wedges - Mizuno T22 Putter - Odyssey 990 (L.A.B DF3 on the Way) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkie07 Posted August 6 Share Posted August 6 Congratulations. Excited to hear the feedback on the 2.0 William P 1 Quote Driver - Titleist GT3 10 - Ventus Black 6s 3W - TSR2 - Tensei Blue 5W TSR3 - Tensei 1K Black Irons - Mizuno 245 Wedges - Mizuno T22 Putter - Odyssey 990 (L.A.B DF3 on the Way) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkie07 Posted August 6 Share Posted August 6 Congratulations. Excited to hear the feedback on the 2.0 William P 1 Quote Driver - Titleist GT3 10 - Ventus Black 6s 3W - TSR2 - Tensei Blue 5W TSR3 - Tensei 1K Black Irons - Mizuno 245 Wedges - Mizuno T22 Putter - Odyssey 990 (L.A.B DF3 on the Way) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkie07 Posted August 6 Share Posted August 6 Congratulations. Excited to hear the feedback on the 2.0 Quote Driver - Titleist GT3 10 - Ventus Black 6s 3W - TSR2 - Tensei Blue 5W TSR3 - Tensei 1K Black Irons - Mizuno 245 Wedges - Mizuno T22 Putter - Odyssey 990 (L.A.B DF3 on the Way) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
golfinnut Posted August 6 Share Posted August 6 Congrats everyone! I've wondered if this actually works or not NotScratchYet, William P and vandyland 3 Quote WITB: Do I like Titleist or what? Driver: TSR3 9* UST Mamiya Proto LIN-Q Blue Fairways: TSi2 UST Mamiya LIN-Q Blue 13.5* Driving Iron: U500 17* Blue Ventus HB Velocore Irons: T350 4 & 5, T200 6 - PW UST Mamiya Recoil Dart F4 105g Wedges: SM9 48*, SM9 52*, SM8 56* Modus Tour Wedge Putter: Newport 2 w/ Garsen Ultimate grip Ball: *ProV1 Left Dot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vandyland Posted August 6 Share Posted August 6 Very honored and excited to test out the product! Been re-reading the previous Hack Motion review thread and looking to see how the developers have improved upon the previous product and trying to learn from the OG testers. Seems like there is a fairly steep learning curve on the charts but I am diving into the Scott Cowx and Hackmotion YouTube channels to try to get a headstart on interpreting the charts. As someone who has owned a smart-ball, swing setter, dwnundr board, Bender stick and Blast motion putting sensor.....I like swing/training aids as a way of learning the correct motion feels/patterns. Pumped! William P, sirchunksalot, Shrek74 and 2 others 4 1 Quote STZ 230 9.5* / Pro Fli-Hi 21* MALTBY TS1-IM 5-GW Equalizer II 54* / Carnoustie 60* L.A.B. Directed Force 2.1 HackMotion Official Review -- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SVCRATES Posted August 6 Share Posted August 6 Looking forward to reading what the testers report on this system. William P 1 Quote JaKe the 3 Putt God Putter: Scotty Cameron Golo 5 Wedges: Cleveland Zipcore RTX6 54,60; KBS Custom X Shafts Irons: Titleist 714 AP1 AW-5 Hybrid: Titleist 714 4 Woods: Titleist 915F 3 Wood; Diamana x5ct 80g S Driver: PXG Gen 4 0811X 9; Ventus Black 6x Ball: Titleist AVX Yellow Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bohnson Posted August 6 Share Posted August 6 Congrats, seems like great tech! William P 1 Quote Brandon Johnson, MBA COO / Co-founder North American Golf Tour www.northamericangolftour.com e: bjohnson@northamericangolftour.com WITB: D - Taylormade M1 w/ tensie pro orange 3w- Taylormade M1 w/ tensie pro orange 2i - Srixon 4- 5 Srixon 785 6- 9 Srixon z blades PW, GW, SW, LW Cleveland rtx true temper shafts in all of my irons putter - Odyssey #9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Josh Parker Posted August 6 Share Posted August 6 Congrats testers! Can't wait to follow along and see how this device helps your game. sirchunksalot and William P 2 Quote Titleist GT3 11* Tensei 1k blue Titleist TSR2 4w 16* Titleist TSR2 5w 18.75* MKII ZX 5's (4-6) w/ KBS Tour V MKII ZX 7's (7-PW) w/ KBS Tour V Vokey SM9 Wedges 50* 54* 58* DF2.1 Putter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BradM Posted August 6 Share Posted August 6 Can’t wait to hear the feedback in this device. William P 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3Putt4Double Posted August 6 Share Posted August 6 Congrats testers!! sirchunksalot and William P 2 Quote Bubba Ivy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GolferXY Posted August 6 Share Posted August 6 Congrats to the testers! Very cool opportunity for the inside scoop on what I think is awesome, even ground breaking tech. Looking forward to your findings, Spies! This looks like something that would help my game. William P and sirchunksalot 2 Quote -XY Sussex and Rain Rooster ProV1X QI10 LS Epic Flash 3-wood 4H Stealth 2, stiff i525, 6 - W, 1 degree flat, ProjectX 5.5 110 g shafts SM10 52, 56, 60 DF3 Broomstick Ping Pioneer Cart Bag MGI electric cart Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patrick Dawes Posted August 6 Share Posted August 6 Congrats would like to hear how well this works. Been trying to work on my wrists to get the face closed and this looks like it could help. William P 1 Quote Patrick Dawes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ejgorka Posted August 6 Share Posted August 6 Really curious about this one. Enjoy testers! William P 1 Quote Mezz 1 putter, qi10 driver and woods, titleist t200 irons Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarthTakko Posted August 6 Share Posted August 6 Congrats! Looking forward to the results, held off on 1st gen because I wanted to see the product mature William P 1 Quote Send it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coulter Posted August 6 Share Posted August 6 Congratulations!! William P 1 Quote I have a cobra rad speed driver, cobra fly z 3 and 5 wood, taylormade m1 irons (5-PW), Top Flite Gamer wedges (52,56,60), and odyssey white ice putter. When I’m playing to keep score I typically play the Maxfli Tour X. When just getting a round in with friends or scrambling I play whatever I might find on the course or might find at the bottom of my bag. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MGSMGSMGSMGS Posted August 6 Share Posted August 6 One thing I've struggled with is the whole concept of feel vs real. I'll try to make swing changes and record myself and just can't seem to nail certain positions. The idea of real time feedback with the hackmotion seems like such a huge game changer for folks like myself. Super interested to read the feedback from the testers! William P, Shrek74 and NotScratchYet 3 Quote ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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