COBRA DS-Adapt and Wilson DYNAPWR Max on USGA List

[GolfSpy_APH]

 

https://mygolfspy.com/news-opinion/cobra-ds-adapt-and-wilson-dynapwr-max-on-usga-list/ 

 

Tony noted the hosel has a QR code and based of other leaks we have seen on IG (remember please only post official photos, but all discussion is allowed). It would seem there is a new hosel for Cobra? I am sure we will learn more soon enough!

 

[Josh Parker]

I'm not a super big fan when they change hosels but it will be interesting to see what it allows you to do with the positions. 

[Rob Person]

It could mean that they are having a opportunity to help promote club face path. Or it could mean that they may be having their own exclusive tip to prevent swapping shafts easily

[William P]

Interesting, guess we will have to see what they announce in regard to the QR code.

[The TXBexar]

Found some better pictures from the 2024 Shriner Open where the DS-Adapt driver was apparently on display/out for hands on looksy by visitors(no pics posted because I couldn't find any official USGA pics from the event with the info) and they have completely changed the Hosel Adapter set-up. It looks like they went the way of Titleist and have an AlphaNumeric combo code for the adapter that utilizes A-H plus #1-#8 settings on the dial on the two piece adpater, so that you can more fine tune the Loft/Lie to what you would more prefer to see your shot shaped too/counter your swing affects. 

Based on that, I'd bet the QR code is a link to the Settings Matrix plus a tutorial online that shows you the different settings you could have to get the club to bets fit your needs/swing and how to set the adapter settings for your needs. If it's not, it'll be needed though because with the A-H plus #1-#8 options, you could technically have 64 different settings for the same driver. 

Also interesting enough, I found a really good pic of the QR code, and it's currently locked if you try to read it with your phone/computer! You can't even use it to access the site or app that it leads too right now, so they really want to keep whatever is on the other side of the QR link private until they are ready for everyone to know what it's for.

11 hours ago, GolfSpy_APH said:

 

https://mygolfspy.com/news-opinion/cobra-ds-adapt-and-wilson-dynapwr-max-on-usga-list/ 

 Tony noted the hosel has a QR code and based of other leaks we have seen on IG (remember please only post official photos, but all discussion is allowed). It would seem there is a new hosel for Cobra? I am sure we will learn more soon enough!

 

[Josh Parker]

6 minutes ago, The TXBexar said:

Found some better pictures from the 2024 Shriner Open where the DS-Adapt driver was apparently on display/out for hands on looksy by visitors(no pics posted because I couldn't find any official USGA pics from the event with the info) and they have completely changed the Hosel Adapter set-up. It looks like they went the way of Titleist and have an AlphaNumeric combo code for the adapter that utilizes A-H plus #1-#8 settings on the dial on the two piece adpater, so that you can more fine tune the Loft/Lie to what you would more prefer to see your shot shaped too/counter your swing affects. 

Based on that, I'd bet the QR code is a link to the Settings Matrix plus a tutorial online that shows you the different settings you could have to get the club to bets fit your needs/swing and how to set the adapter settings for your needs. If it's not, it'll be needed though because with the A-H plus #1-#8 options, you could technically have 64 different settings for the same driver. 

Also interesting enough, I found a really good pic of the QR code, and it's currently locked if you try to read it with your phone/computer! You can't even use it to access the site or app that it leads too right now, so they really want to keep whatever is on the other side of the QR link private until they are ready for everyone to know what it's for.

That's a ton of setting options 

[GolfSpy_KFT]

Didn't notice this until just now, but that rear weight on the Adapt X is 10 grams instead of 12 in the current Darkspeed X. I wonder if there's maybe any slight tech/weight change in the head itself? Because it largely looks like a rebranded Darkspeed X driver aside from the hosel change. 

[The TXBexar]

54 minutes ago, Josh Parker said:

That's a ton of setting options 

Yeah, honestly too many for most people to truly use properly. I'm betting thats what the QR code is for, to help people not freak out while trying to fiddle with it lol.

[Josh Parker]

15 minutes ago, The TXBexar said:

Yeah, honestly too many for most people to truly use properly. I'm betting thats what the QR code is for, to help people not freak out while trying to fiddle with it lol.

I found a photo of the adapter and the comments were they seemed to make the one adjustment attached so that means the shaft has to rotate as well unlike Titleist. 

[GolfSpy_KFT]

9 minutes ago, Josh Parker said:

I found a photo of the adapter and the comments were they seemed to make the one adjustment attached so that means the shaft has to rotate as well unlike Titleist. 

Titleist shaft still has to rotate, though. Unless I've somehow been doing it wrong this entire time lol.

[The TXBexar]

51 minutes ago, GolfSpy_KFT said:

Didn't notice this until just now, but that rear weight on the Adapt X is 10 grams instead of 12 in the current Darkspeed X. I wonder if there's maybe any slight tech/weight change in the head itself? Because it largely looks like a rebranded Darkspeed X driver aside from the hosel change. 

I did see in the pics that there is 2 versions, the DS-Adapt (black color print of the clubs name on bottom side of head) and the DS-Adapt-X (steel-blue color print of the clubs name on bottom side of head).

Both seem to have permanent Low-CG weighting imbedded in the bottom of the head, different then, but the the DS-Adapt actually has 3 replaceable weights in the bottom of the head (rear center, then toe-side & heel-side of the low-CG weighting, just behind the face by about 1/2") and the Adapt-X only has 2 weights in the bottom of the head (rear-center and Face-center behind the low-CG weighting, again just about 1/2" behind the face). Seems like they want some more versatility in trying to get the club to fit your swing better and help you perform better. 

[The TXBexar]

12 hours ago, GolfSpy_APH said:

 

https://mygolfspy.com/news-opinion/cobra-ds-adapt-and-wilson-dynapwr-max-on-usga-list/ 

 

Tony noted the hosel has a QR code and based of other leaks we have seen on IG (remember please only post official photos, but all discussion is allowed). It would seem there is a new hosel for Cobra? I am sure we will learn more soon enough!

 

Honestly, the more I look into this club, the more it seems that Cobra went the way Porsche did with their GT3 RS, by providing a high performance option of an already good model that has tons of small minute optimizations to try and get the gear to exactly fit & benefit your exact wants and game style.

I've always been a fan of Cobra and their gears performance, but I'm now more curious then ever just what their plan is with this club and who its intended for, and the price point for that matter too. It seems like it could be a game changer in the drivers world, or end up an over-engineered & under-utilized club that doesn't pan out well with the average golfer because of it's over-daunting potential. 

[Josh Parker]

25 minutes ago, GolfSpy_KFT said:

Titleist shaft still has to rotate, though. Unless I've somehow been doing it wrong this entire time lol.

You are correct.  I didn't catch that at all. Had to go look for myself just now. Haha. I did see on my Callaway shafts it does have the option to keep shaft from turning. 

[The TXBexar]

2 hours ago, William P said:

Interesting, guess we will have to see what they announce in regard to the QR code.

Honestly, now realizing just how much customization they have potentially offered being built into these clubs, I wouldn't be surprised one bit if the QR link takes you to a VR site/app that turns your phone into a custom club optimization fitting app. All you would need to do is scan the link, set your phone up where the camera can fully view your ball-flight from as close to where you are hitting the ball as possible, then take 6-12 swings, and the site/app calculates your existing ball flight data (launch angle, Apex, Hook/Slice-ing or Draw/Fade-ing of the ball) and then gives you the settings & weight-adjustments it recommends you need to get your ball to fly the path/trajectory you want it to actually go (higher launch angle, fade to counter draw/draw to counter fade, etc.).

I wouldn't put it past Cobra to come up with some crazy cool tool like that, that's custom made for this driver. 

Edited October 16 by The TXBexar
dumb spelling and phrasing

[GolfSpy_KFT]

22 minutes ago, Josh Parker said:

You are correct.  I didn't catch that at all. Had to go look for myself just now. Haha. I did see on my Callaway shafts it does have the option to keep shaft from turning. 

Yes, that is where I think Callaway is ahead of most everyone else. while shaft position doesn't matter THAT much to me, I think it does to quite a few folks. The Surefit with Titleist rocks, but Callaway for sure got it right with Optifit.

[GolfSpy_KFT]

18 minutes ago, The TXBexar said:

Honestly, now realizing just how much customization they have potentially offered being built into these clubs, I wouldn't be surprised one bit if the QR link takes you to a VR site/app that turns your phone into a custom club optimization fitting app. All you would need to do is scan the link, set your phone up where the camera can fully view your ball-flight from as close to where you are hitting the ball as possible, then take 6-12 swings, and the site/app calculates your existing ball flight data (launch angle, Apex, Hook/Slice-ing or Draw/Fade-ing of the ball) and then gives you the settings & weight-adjustments it recommends you need to get your ball to fly the path/trajectory you want it to actually go (higher launch angle, fade to counter draw/draw to counter fade, etc.).

I wouldn't put it past Cobra to come up with some crazy cool tool like that, that's custom made for this driver. 

While this would be super cool, I don't honestly know that the camera on a phone would have the capability to do this on an accurate enough level. It would be sweet, though lol

[Josh Parker]

26 minutes ago, GolfSpy_KFT said:

Yes, that is where I think Callaway is ahead of most everyone else. while shaft position doesn't matter THAT much to me, I think it does to quite a few folks. The Surefit with Titleist rocks, but Callaway for sure got it right with Optifit.

I mean the hope is always have a fit and stay on it but we know how well we all do that. Haha. 

But it does matter with certain grips on shaft direction. The align grips and jumbomax come with a seam on all but one grip. 

[The TXBexar]

36 minutes ago, GolfSpy_KFT said:

While this would be super cool, I don't honestly know that the camera on a phone would have the capability to do this on an accurate enough level. It would be sweet, though lol

Yeah, I don't think it would be too accurate for anything like speed & spin calculations, but take my Google Pixel phone (which is already 2 versions old now) for example; It can do motion tracking and object recognition all on its own with no input from myself besides just framing the camera for the shot & selecting the setting option for it to do it. And I know iPhones have the built in level with digital angle read out in them that's accurate enough to hang a shelf level for books.

Wouldn't need much more then that for an App to be able to tell the whether your ball flight seems low or high, and whether the ball trailed left or right instead of going straight. 

Edited October 16 by The TXBexar

[Rob Person]

17 hours ago, Josh Parker said:

You are correct.  I didn't catch that at all. Had to go look for myself just now. Haha. I did see on my Callaway shafts it does have the option to keep shaft from turning. 

On my titleist driver and woods adapters I can adjust the 2 cogs and not rotate the shaft. I line up the shaft mark and driver mark and adjust the cogs to line up to them.  Currently 16 setting combinations total.

 

[Josh Parker]

16 minutes ago, Rob Person said:

On my titleist driver and woods adapters I can adjust the 2 cogs and not rotate the shaft. I line up the shaft mark and driver mark and adjust the cogs to line up to them.  Currently 16 setting combinations total.

 

You letters turn?  They aren't attached to the fitting?

[GolfSpy_APH]

3 hours ago, Josh Parker said:

You letters turn?  They aren't attached to the fitting?

For Titleist one part is fixed and the other part moves around. Depending on your setting you do need to adjust or spin the shaft. I have both the older and newer versions of the adapters and they are the same. 

[hartrick11]

I think this adjustability will be awesome for the X driver especially. I historically gravitate to the LS type models where I can move weight out to the toe, but having more options to dial in the more forgiving option could lead to real gains in performance/consistency.

[GolfSpy_BOS]

On 10/16/2024 at 6:36 AM, Josh Parker said:

I'm not a super big fan when they change hosels but it will be interesting to see what it allows you to do with the positions. 

From some of the other photos I saw leaked on Instagram it almost looks like the driver end is identical to the prior set up, so maybe old tips will still work, but won't allow the extra level of adjustment that this new setup will?

Interested to see what the official story ends up being from Cobra on this release.

[Josh Parker]

5 hours ago, GolfSpy_BOS said:

From some of the other photos I saw leaked on Instagram it almost looks like the driver end is identical to the prior set up, so maybe old tips will still work, but won't allow the extra level of adjustment that this new setup will?

Interested to see what the official story ends up being from Cobra on this release.

That would be good for the consumer.

[Micah T]

New hosel means I won’t be upgrading to this model anytime soon, since I bought a custom shaft for my LTDx LS. Looks like I’ll just stick to my original plan of getting an Aerojet LS head for cheap this Christmas..

Edited October 22 by Micah T

[GolfSpy_APH]

10 minutes ago, Micah T said:

New hosel means I won’t be upgrading to this model anytime soon, since I bought a custom shaft for my LTDx LS. Looks like I’ll just my original plan of getting an Aerojet LS head for cheap this Christmas..

Adapters are stupid easy to change over and if you are not comfortable yourself it normally only costs a few bucks at a shop.

[GolfSpy_BNG]

The more I see of the Cobra the more and more I like it. Subtle changes to an already good driver isn’t a bad thing. Plus the addition of a new hosel makes sense to me.  My only real complaint on the Darkspeed LS was how unforgiving it was when not hit dead center. It was a ball speed and distance monster when struck well. 

[GolfSpy_APH]

6 minutes ago, GolfSpy_BNG said:

The more I see of the Cobra the more and more I like it. Subtle changes to an already good driver isn’t a bad thing. Plus the addition of a new hosel makes sense to me.  My only real complaint on the Darkspeed LS was how unforgiving it was when not hit dead center. It was a ball speed and distance monster when struck well. 

Pretty sure I can guarantee you'll be happy with the new model.

[Rob Person]

On 10/17/2024 at 7:56 AM, Josh Parker said:

You letters turn?  They aren't attached to the fitting?

I was mistaken, the upper cogs Is fixed to the shafts, only the middle ones rotate. Not sure why I thought they all rotated.

 

On 10/17/2024 at 10:58 AM, GolfSpy_APH said:

For Titleist one part is fixed and the other part moves around. Depending on your setting you do need to adjust or spin the shaft. I have both the older and newer versions of the adapters and they are the same. 

 

[GolfSpy_APH]

17 minutes ago, Rob Person said:

I was mistaken, the upper cogs Is fixed to the shafts, only the middle ones rotate. Not sure why I thought they all rotated.

 

 

Prior to owning the. I thought the same. Callaway has a dual cog.