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I'm been working on (tweaking...adjusting...messing up....whatever) my swing all summer. I've started taking it back much more to the inside as it seems to enable me to strike the ball more consistently and solidly.

 

My shots go medium-high & straight......but......usually left. No hook or slice, just a pull to the left. Sometimes way left, sometimes just a wee bit. (The DTL video is an example of WAY left as I was aiming out over the big square target you see out in the yard).

 

This is with every club from driver to wedge. I use basically the same swing for every club.

 

It looks like I'm casting the club somewhat....anyway...I posted a video including both DTL and Front-On hoping to get some insight/advice.

 

Thanks!

 

BK

 

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I'll start with the easy stuff:

 

A pull means the face is pointed left of the target and the path is left of the target also. If it's an absolute straight pull, the face and path are square to each other. If it curves left or right, the face is somewhat closed/open to the path.

 

As for swing advice (and all of this is tentative, since it's based on one swing on video with a bad camera angle [not trying to be an a**hole about that, but the camera angle can skew the look of the path]):

 

The more "inside" your hands go at the start, the more they will be inclined to come "over the top" in the downswing. On this shot, your club path looks decidedly "outside-in" or left of the target. No question you can hit it solid this way, but you need to have the clubface more open relative to the path so that it cuts back to the target instead of just pulling left.

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On this shot, your club path looks decidedly "outside-in" or left of the target.
Makes sense....thanks.

 

I'll start with the easy stuff:
What's the not-so-easy stuff? :(

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I had, have this issue. I come in to far to the inside and pull it 40 yards left. Great shot but it is a miss by 40 yards. My first move was to get really good at getting up and down from 40 yards left.:P

 

The second thing I did was focus on keeping my club head outside my hands until after waste high. I do not "feel" like I am taking it back as far but I probably am. I still get the same distance but the ball flies straight at the target.

 

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Not a teacher or a pro, so take this FWIW. It looks like you are WAY too laid off on the takeaway with what appears to be a very closed stance (little closed is ok, I like my feet a little closed an shoulders a little open). Lay some alignment sticks down, square up your feet down the line and as you take that club back, at 9:00 it should be pointing directly at the camera behind you parallel to the line. Some teach the wrists broken there with the clubface at 12:00 from your perspective, I don't like my wrists broken there at all and want my clubface at 11:00. Feel like you're lifting it straight up after that, up over your shoulder, you wont' be but that is what it will feel like to you. You're swing the club around your chest almost on a very flat plane, because of the way your feet appear to be lined up, you are pulling the ball a ton just to hit it straight down the line. You actually look pretty good at the top but I think that the manipulations you've had to make to get there combined with your close stance are keeping you from being able to fire straight back down the line on plane.

 

Watch your little loop at the top right before you set your club, it is going from laid off to more vertical to get into position. I am seeking the opposite of that, from a bit too vertical to dropping inside on the way down. This momentum is what is taking you outside to in instead of inside to out. With your feet closed, you cant really come inside to out and get down the line I dont think.

 

Take it for what its worth! Just what I think I'm seeing!

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I'm seeing what others are seeing - it looks to me as if you are very closed which is forcing you to come very inside and then over the top. Because you're a stronger player you hit a pull rather than a weak slice.

 

It all starts with the closed stance though reign that in and things might fall into place.

 

Good luck!

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OK...all those comments make perfect sense. I actually didn't realize how closed my stance had gotten from "adjusting" to the pull. I'll start taking a square stance and getting the club back more vertical.

 

THANKS!!!

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BK, no disrespect to anyone on this page, because there's a lot of knowledge here & Matt's, Tyk's, RR's & Rk's comments are all accurate, well articulated posts, though as Matt stated, the camera angle can be deceiving regarding what we are seeing versus what you are actually doing....

 

 

The best advice that I would give is to find a pro to work with, someone to who you are comfortable with and who does not teach by the cook book/recipe style...It's easier said than done....

 

 

The Best....

 

 

Fairwasy & Greens 4ever.....

 

Yup, this.

 

Generally I don't even comment on swing videos because I agree with what Richard said so much, but after I got through with the ball flight explanation I couldn't stop myself from typing more. I know in real life that's called verbal diarrhea...what's the internet forum equivalent? :huh:

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Generally I don't even comment on swing videos because I agree with what Richard said so much,

 

Well, I appreciate all the comments and advice. Finding a good pro around here is impossible. Besides, if I wasn't sure I could get good advice on here, I wouldn't even have asked ;)

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Definitely casting. You might want to work on creating more lag and holding the angle more. Id also suggestling learning to hit from the inside more (you look to me coming over the top a bit). The way that I learned to hit from the inside was to imagine that I was a batter in baseball and I was trying to hit the ball to 1st base.

Those 2 things should fix your pulls and have you hitting a nice little draw in no time.

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Well I am sort of late to the party so my fault, Matt covered it well...

 

The camera needs to be perfectly down a target line on DTL view you have to make sure your body is aimed at the target line to be 100% sure you are not casting. On the Face on View back the camera up just a touch so that it is a little easier to see all the body parts.

 

I wanted to make a note that you have a one plane swing, this is not a bad thing you just need to know it to be able to improve and not take advice that fits a hybrid or two plane swing. The lead arm pretty much matches the shoulder rotation plane. Just because I see what is going on in analysis that doesn't always leed to the best answer to fix it, I am not an instructor, I don't know what you feel in your body to produce a swing etc.

 

 

Too many golfers attempt to create a swing plane when it just needs to naturally happen. By that I mean a lot of golfers toss there left arm across the body to create a "plane" it normally causes an inside takeaway and at the top the hands get very deep behind the body. This almost always leads to someone feeling like they have to cast with the upper body to get the club into the correct position on the down swing.

 

1) The hands at the top of the backswing are really deep behind your body.

--> Matt mentioned that this could be from an inside takeaway that is only part of it I feel because I had a lot of the same issue i see in your swing at one point.

--> I think that your left side is breaking down allowing you to over rotate into the top of the backswing. You don't have to rotate a ton to get a lot of SS and power I'll post a few videos on this later.

--> You might consider just making what FEELS like a 3/4 length backswing in terms of rotation keeping the left heel on the ground.

 

 

2) Once you are in a 3/4 rotation / swing FEEL, then you need to just slightly s*** weight and rotate your hips leaving the shoulders and hands passive in the first part of the down swing.

--> a lot of people like to feel that there lower body does nothing in the backswing and the upper body doesn't do a lot of work in the downswing.

 

 

3) find an instructor that will work with you on your one-plane swing. You might consider the RotarySwing.com guys using the RS1 model, it is a one-plane model for people that don't want to completely rework their swing into a hybrid type of swing in the RST model. I don't recommend a 100% rebuild, just fine tune what you have.

 

 

Here is a great one plane swing Jonathan Byrd

--> stable left leg backswing

--> less rotation in backswing

--> slight weight shift / hip rotation to start down swing

--> shoulders and arms look passive in downswing

--> pulls with the left side into impact

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RP's advice is the best of all - honestly this is the first time that I've ever commented on a video of someone's swing but it was just so obvious.

 

It's not that bad really - your swing reminds me of a good friend of mine - It's fine except when he gets too closed.

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OK...all those comments make perfect sense. I actually didn't realize how closed my stance had gotten from "adjusting" to the pull. I'll start taking a square stance and getting the club back more vertical.

 

THANKS!!!

 

 

That's a common mistake a lot of people make. They start pulling the ball so they close the stance more and more, causing it to get worse rather than better because the stance changes at the bottom while the shoulders get more and more at a differing angle in relation to the feet. I've been guilty of it before myself.

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yes, of course you will get the best advice from a qualified pro. I assumed that if you didn't want the peanut gallery analysis you wouldn't have asked for it!

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The peanut gallery has been extremely helpful!

 

I'm more the peanut gallery type of guy anyways ;)

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Speaking of the peanut gallery...

 

Several in the gallery have mentioned they rarely post on swing videos. I get it...it's easy to do as much harm as good.....understandable. But.....many guys on MGS have an immense amount of knowledge about this crazy game. The selfless sharing of that knowledge is one of the things that makes this site great. Just sayin'.

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And that's generally how it is with golf - do the opposite of what you'd expect and things work out just fine. :)

 

I think I'm going to patent that and call it the George Costanza golfing method!

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I try to give a disclaimer when I am about to say something that might effect someone's golf game in terms of advice and normally encourage then to find a local instructor.

 

I will however give some advice if I can relate or think it might help someone, they can always double check that advice with someone that is paid to do this for a living if the person wants a 2nd or 3rd opinion. That is the great thing about a forum, you'll get the two extremes in information... The complete bulls*** and the actual real stuff, sometimes it is just as hard to sift through the BS and figure out what is the good real info.

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I try to give a disclaimer when I am about to say something that might effect someone's golf game in terms of advice and normally encourage then to find a local instructor.

 

I will however give some advice if I can relate or think it might help someone, they can always double check that advice with someone that is paid to do this for a living if the person wants a 2nd or 3rd opinion. That is the great thing about a forum, you'll get the two extremes in information... The complete bulls*** and the actual real stuff, sometimes it is just as hard to sift through the BS and figure out what is the good real info.

The same goes really for going to a PGA Professional to get a lesson. Different instructors have different theories on the golf swing and on the laws of ball flight and some dont even stay up to date on the latest theories and teaching methods, so in the end you have to take everything with a grain of salt.

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