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And coming are they. It appears that settling up with James Patrick was more costly than anyone knew and he's trying to recoup it all back on the sale of iron sets.

 

Price points:

3-GW $3150

3-PW $2800

4-GW $2800

4-PW $2450

5-GW $2450

5-PW $2100

 

That's $350 per club for those doing the math.

 

And they're not that impressive in looks. The bounce is jacked waaaaaay up on all of the irons (example 7 iron has 12* of bounce). I was always of the school of thought of ball first contact with the club contacting turf after the ball to create compression and launch. It seems Mr. Edel has developed the first ever set of Tour Striker irons, so watch out Martin Chuck. Evidently, creating that much bounce is expensive to do.

 

Regardless, I'm sure they're a fine forged iron, but that price point won't sell well, IMO.


In The Bag
Driver: TaylorMade M2 (2017) w/ Project X T1100 HZRDUS Handcrafted 65x 
Strong 3 wood: Taylormade M1 15* w/ ProjectX T1100 HZRDUS handcrafted 75x
3 Hybrid: Adams PRO 18* w/ KBS Tour Hybrid S flex tipped 1/2"
4 Hybrid: Adams PRO 20* (bent to 21*) w/ KBS Tour Hybrid S flex tipped 1/2"
4-AW: TaylorMade P770 w/ Dynamic Gold Tour Issue Black Onyx S400

SW: 56* Scratch Tour Dept(CC grooves) w/ Dynamic Gold Spinner
LW: 60* Scratch Tour Department (CC grooves) w/ Dynamic Gold Spinner
XW: 64* Cally XForged Vintage w/ DG X100 8 iron tiger stepped
Putter: Nike Method Prototype 006 at 34"

Have a ton of back-ups in all categories, but there are always 14 clubs in the bag that differ depending on the course and set-up. Bomb and gouge. Yes, I'm a club gigolo.

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Here is the email from Edel:

 

Edel Irons

Pre-Order now

 

David Edel, founder of Edel Golf, has done it again! He has designed and produced the best custom putters and wedges on the market, and now is venturing into an amazing line of irons. He took what Mike Adams taught him about bounce in the wedges with how it helps the player's turf interaction and consistency. This same methodology was used to develop what we believe to be the best set of irons on the market to date.

 

We researched other companies' amount of bounce in their irons. The most we could find was 5* bounce on a 7 iron (avg 3*) and it went down from there with an average of 1* on a 3 iron.

 

David's first prototype was a 7 iron with 12* of bounce. The results were absolutely amazing. We found cleaner turf interaction as well as using higher lofts drives the ball further. Reason being is the club is not getting stuck in the ground and has more force. This turns into better strikes and faster club head speed for the golfer.

Orders for Edel Irons

Be one of the first to purchase a limited run of 150 cavity back and 50 muscle back irons for 2012.

 

Each head starts with raw forging, then CNC machining.

The next step is hand grinding by either Neil Oster (Director of Iron and Wedge Development) or David Edel for the proper grind and bounce. Only the loft and club number will be stamped on the club (no personalization). It will then be sent to PVD plating. Read more about PVD

Choose your paintfill, shaft type, length and lie

 

Club Loft Bounce Length Lie

GW 50* 15* 35.5" 64*

PW 46* 15* 35.5" 63.5*

9 42* 14* 36" 63*

8 38* 13* 36.5" 62.5*

7 34* 12* 37" 62*

6 31* 11* 37.5" 61.5*

5 28* 10* 38" 61*

4 25* 9* 38.5" 60.5*

3 22* 8* 39" 60*

 

Std swing weight D2

 

Shafts Available

KBS C Taper (S)

KBS Tour 90 (R and S)

KBS Custom Series Black Tour (R and S)

UST MP6 Graphite (A - 67 g)

Nippon 950 GH ®

DG Tour Issue (S-400) +$20 per club

 

We are taking pre-orders now.

 

As mentioned, we are only manufacturing 50 muscle back sets and 150 cavity back sets for 2012.

 

Contact your fitter if you are interested in purchasing.

Orders will be filled on a first response basis.

Set Makeup available

3-GW - $3150

3-PW - $2800

4-GW - $2800

4-PW - $2450

5-GW - $2450

5-PW - $2100

 

Edel Irons will begin shipping the 1st week of October.

Muscle Backs will not be available until November.

 

Don't delay! These sets will not last long.


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I didn't know that they were 'settling up' with JP. And for what reason they would have to settle up for JP is beyond me.

 

I don't see how that would have anything to do with the irons. They are only making 200 sets of irons for this year. The price point on the forged wedges is about the same as the price point on each iron.

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Author of Pro Golf Synopsis. The Moneyball approach to golf strategy and analysis.Driver: Wishon 919THI, 10° loft, UST Mamiya VTS Red 7x, 44-3/8” long, 2,825 kg/cm^2 MOIGONZO WOOD: confidential2-Hybrid: Mizuno Fli-HiCLK, 17° loft, 40-7/8" KBS Tour Hybrid shaft (stiff)3-Hybrid: Mizuno Fli-HiCLK, 20° loft, 40" KBS Tour Hybrid shaft (stiff)4-6 iron: Wishon 575MMC (CB)7-PW: Wishon 575MMC (MB)SW: Edel Golf driver grind, 52° loft, 16° bounce, Nippon WV 125 shaft.LW: Edel Golf Digger Grind, 60° loft, 27° bounce, Nippon WV 125 ShaftPutter: Edel Golf Columbia Custom Made, 35" long, 72° lie angle, 3° loft. Ball: Titleist Pro V1xGrips: PURE Grips P2 Wrap (red)Shoes: FootJoy Dry-Joy (black, size 14)3Jack's Golf Blog - http://3jack.blogspot.com

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I didn't know that they were 'settling up' with JP. And for what reason they would have to settle up for JP is beyond me.

 

I don't see how that would have anything to do with the irons. They are only making 200 sets of irons for this year. The price point on the forged wedges is about the same as the price point on each iron.

 

 

 

 

 

 

3JACK

 

They got JP to source their wedge heads, do all the grinding for the PGA show, etc and then made him a bad offer. It broke down from there and the contractual offer wasn't in the best interests of JP Golf (according to JP). Their wedges that they now sell, however, bear the exact same grind JP produced and is known for, the exact same stamping style, same thinner hosel, same heel and toe relief, same CG, etc. everything about Edel wedges has JP's ideas and design characteristics all over them. They're JP wedges with a different face pattern. The settling with JP was tongue in cheek, but everyone knows where the aesthetics and ideas for their wedges came from.


In The Bag
Driver: TaylorMade M2 (2017) w/ Project X T1100 HZRDUS Handcrafted 65x 
Strong 3 wood: Taylormade M1 15* w/ ProjectX T1100 HZRDUS handcrafted 75x
3 Hybrid: Adams PRO 18* w/ KBS Tour Hybrid S flex tipped 1/2"
4 Hybrid: Adams PRO 20* (bent to 21*) w/ KBS Tour Hybrid S flex tipped 1/2"
4-AW: TaylorMade P770 w/ Dynamic Gold Tour Issue Black Onyx S400

SW: 56* Scratch Tour Dept(CC grooves) w/ Dynamic Gold Spinner
LW: 60* Scratch Tour Department (CC grooves) w/ Dynamic Gold Spinner
XW: 64* Cally XForged Vintage w/ DG X100 8 iron tiger stepped
Putter: Nike Method Prototype 006 at 34"

Have a ton of back-ups in all categories, but there are always 14 clubs in the bag that differ depending on the course and set-up. Bomb and gouge. Yes, I'm a club gigolo.

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I dont see how anyone would buy those at those prices. What do these irons have that mizuno's dont? unless these are guaranteed to hit it perfect everytime, i wouldnt even consider them, well actually i would rather have 2 sets of any other irons than one of these. If anyone would like to attempt to prove me wrong, i would love to hear your arguments.

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They got JP to source their wedge heads, do all the grinding for the PGA show, etc and then made him a bad offer. It broke down from there and the contractual offer wasn't in the best interests of JP Golf (according to JP). Their wedges that they now sell, however, bear the exact same grind JP produced and is known for, the exact same stamping style, same thinner hosel, same heel and toe relief, same CG, etc. everything about Edel wedges has JP's ideas and design characteristics all over them. They're JP wedges with a different face pattern. The settling with JP was tongue in cheek, but everyone knows where the aesthetics and ideas for their wedges came from.

 

That's not exactly true. I should know since I was at the 2011 PGA Show at the AimPoint/Edel booth when they first introduced the wedges in a glass casing, with just the head. In fact, one of the grinds was a blatant rip off of Miura's K-Grind

 

Anyway, when I asked about the wedges I was told that the head design and fitting system was the brainchild of Mike Adams. That the wedges were featuring more bounce and moving hte CoG away from the hosel along with a fitting system that would find the right bounce for the golfer. At that time, I thought that could really mean anything.

 

But guess who told me this?

 

James Patrick.

 

I think what people don't realize is that Mike Adams has been an experienced grinder who ground wedges for his students for years. The actual high bounce design was something that Adams thought of due to his admiration for the old PING Eye 2 wedge.

 

From my feeling after the 2011 PGA Show was that JP was there to add his cosmetic touch to it, set them up with a source for blank heads and more or less be the 'face' behind the wedge line, much like Don White is at Scratch Golf or Bob Vokey at Titleist.

 

I would play JP's wedges if I thought they were better than Edel's, but the amount of bounce and the scoreline design is completely different. I personally prefer the Edel design, but others may prefer what JP is offering. The point is, they are very different in key spots and after that PGA Show, I could only go on what JP told me and that was the design and fitting system was Mike Adams' creation.

 

Anyway, last year I got to hit Edel's 9-iron with the punch dot face and I really liked it. I like the higher bounce angle concept, which decreases the size of the divot and can help with distance control.

 

 

 

 

 

3JACK


Author of Pro Golf Synopsis. The Moneyball approach to golf strategy and analysis.Driver: Wishon 919THI, 10° loft, UST Mamiya VTS Red 7x, 44-3/8” long, 2,825 kg/cm^2 MOIGONZO WOOD: confidential2-Hybrid: Mizuno Fli-HiCLK, 17° loft, 40-7/8" KBS Tour Hybrid shaft (stiff)3-Hybrid: Mizuno Fli-HiCLK, 20° loft, 40" KBS Tour Hybrid shaft (stiff)4-6 iron: Wishon 575MMC (CB)7-PW: Wishon 575MMC (MB)SW: Edel Golf driver grind, 52° loft, 16° bounce, Nippon WV 125 shaft.LW: Edel Golf Digger Grind, 60° loft, 27° bounce, Nippon WV 125 ShaftPutter: Edel Golf Columbia Custom Made, 35" long, 72° lie angle, 3° loft. Ball: Titleist Pro V1xGrips: PURE Grips P2 Wrap (red)Shoes: FootJoy Dry-Joy (black, size 14)3Jack's Golf Blog - http://3jack.blogspot.com

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I dont see how anyone would buy those at those prices. What do these irons have that mizuno's dont? unless these are guaranteed to hit it perfect everytime, i wouldnt even consider them, well actually i would rather have 2 sets of any other irons than one of these. If anyone would like to attempt to prove me wrong, i would love to hear your arguments.

 

I won't argue being leery of the price.

 

The Edel irons have a much higher bounce angle than any other iron on the market. The idea is that the higher bounce angle will help with the clubhead colliding with the turf. With their wedges, Mike Adams noticed that his students, be it the 30 handicapper or PGA Tour player, where 'backing up out of the shot' because their wedges didn't have enough bounce. Because if they didn't 'back up out of the shot', they would likely stick the head into the ground. The same idea is behind the irons. I do find that with the wedges that it's easier to control the yardage because you don't have to worry about catching a lot of turf in your divots. Again, I think the same idea is behind the irons.

 

I'm not sure if they are doing the dot punch face option on this run of iron sets they are making. But they have found that the spin rate numbers are better and more consistent with the dot punch design, which is legal for play. I also know that the irons are being designed to get the yardage gaps correct, instead of hitting say a 6-iron 7 yards further than your 5-iron while the rest of the yardage gaps are at 12-yards. I'm not exactly sure how they are doing that. But that's what I was told was going on. Whether or not it's worth the price is up to the golfer.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

3JACK


Author of Pro Golf Synopsis. The Moneyball approach to golf strategy and analysis.Driver: Wishon 919THI, 10° loft, UST Mamiya VTS Red 7x, 44-3/8” long, 2,825 kg/cm^2 MOIGONZO WOOD: confidential2-Hybrid: Mizuno Fli-HiCLK, 17° loft, 40-7/8" KBS Tour Hybrid shaft (stiff)3-Hybrid: Mizuno Fli-HiCLK, 20° loft, 40" KBS Tour Hybrid shaft (stiff)4-6 iron: Wishon 575MMC (CB)7-PW: Wishon 575MMC (MB)SW: Edel Golf driver grind, 52° loft, 16° bounce, Nippon WV 125 shaft.LW: Edel Golf Digger Grind, 60° loft, 27° bounce, Nippon WV 125 ShaftPutter: Edel Golf Columbia Custom Made, 35" long, 72° lie angle, 3° loft. Ball: Titleist Pro V1xGrips: PURE Grips P2 Wrap (red)Shoes: FootJoy Dry-Joy (black, size 14)3Jack's Golf Blog - http://3jack.blogspot.com

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i would rather have 2 sets of any other irons than one of these. If anyone would like to attempt to prove me wrong, i would love to hear your arguments.

It's closer to 3 sets of brand spanking new irons, or 6-7 one year old sets off flea bay.


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According to every interview I've read with JP, that have direct audio recorded quotes he's said the same thing:

 

Mike Adams didn't teach him a thing about grinding clubs nor design. He's always maintained the only thing Mike Adams has taught him was about swing mechanics. His wedges and grind jobs were around before Edel's wedges, his loft stampings, etc, from back when he worked at Hot Stix then Cool Clubs well before Edel was a company offering clubs.

 

He's also maintained that Edel "blatantly copied" his wedges. And he still has the wedges that were designed for the PGA Show.

 

There's a big write up on another site that has quotes from both companies. It's he said she said. But if my money is on either party, I'm rolling with JP after talking to both (well, attempting to, the folks at Edel have been rude every time I've tried to converse with them, and it was about their product not this subject).


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Driver: TaylorMade M2 (2017) w/ Project X T1100 HZRDUS Handcrafted 65x 
Strong 3 wood: Taylormade M1 15* w/ ProjectX T1100 HZRDUS handcrafted 75x
3 Hybrid: Adams PRO 18* w/ KBS Tour Hybrid S flex tipped 1/2"
4 Hybrid: Adams PRO 20* (bent to 21*) w/ KBS Tour Hybrid S flex tipped 1/2"
4-AW: TaylorMade P770 w/ Dynamic Gold Tour Issue Black Onyx S400

SW: 56* Scratch Tour Dept(CC grooves) w/ Dynamic Gold Spinner
LW: 60* Scratch Tour Department (CC grooves) w/ Dynamic Gold Spinner
XW: 64* Cally XForged Vintage w/ DG X100 8 iron tiger stepped
Putter: Nike Method Prototype 006 at 34"

Have a ton of back-ups in all categories, but there are always 14 clubs in the bag that differ depending on the course and set-up. Bomb and gouge. Yes, I'm a club gigolo.

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According to every interview I've read with JP, that have direct audio recorded quotes he's said the same thing:

 

Mike Adams didn't teach him a thing about grinding clubs nor design. He's always maintained the only thing Mike Adams has taught him was about swing mechanics. His wedges and grind jobs were around before Edel's wedges, his loft stampings, etc, from back when he worked at Hot Stix then Cool Clubs well before Edel was a company offering clubs.

 

He's also maintained that Edel "blatantly copied" his wedges. And he still has the wedges that were designed for the PGA Show.

 

There's a big write up on another site that has quotes from both companies. It's he said she said. But if my money is on either party, I'm rolling with JP after talking to both (well, attempting to, the folks at Edel have been rude every time I've tried to converse with them, and it was about their product not this subject).

 

I have read the write up. I'm just telling you what JP told me personally at the 2011 PGA Merchandise Show before their deal fell apart. He also has on his Web site "Studied with Golf Magazine Top 100 Instructor Mike Adams in regards to the concepts of the wedge swing and wedge fitting."

 

And he still has the wedges designes for the PGA Show, one of which included a blatant copy of the Miura K-Grind (so much for innovation and stealing ideas), because he had to pay Edel to keep those heads.

 

One of the questions my readers have asked me about the Edel wedges are what the differences are from the high bounce PING Eye 2 design. That's where the real idea of the Edel wedges came from and even Mike Adams would admit that himself. Not to mention that JP's wedges still have the scorelines in a traditional design whereas the Edel wedges have the scorelines extending out towards the toe.

 

I also have been told what JP's monetary demands were. I would have to know more of what other grinders like Don White and Bob Vokey are making with their companies to get a real comparison. But from what I was told, my initial reaction was that he was asking for entirely too much. Again, I could be wrong.

 

 

 

 

 

3JACK


Author of Pro Golf Synopsis. The Moneyball approach to golf strategy and analysis.Driver: Wishon 919THI, 10° loft, UST Mamiya VTS Red 7x, 44-3/8” long, 2,825 kg/cm^2 MOIGONZO WOOD: confidential2-Hybrid: Mizuno Fli-HiCLK, 17° loft, 40-7/8" KBS Tour Hybrid shaft (stiff)3-Hybrid: Mizuno Fli-HiCLK, 20° loft, 40" KBS Tour Hybrid shaft (stiff)4-6 iron: Wishon 575MMC (CB)7-PW: Wishon 575MMC (MB)SW: Edel Golf driver grind, 52° loft, 16° bounce, Nippon WV 125 shaft.LW: Edel Golf Digger Grind, 60° loft, 27° bounce, Nippon WV 125 ShaftPutter: Edel Golf Columbia Custom Made, 35" long, 72° lie angle, 3° loft. Ball: Titleist Pro V1xGrips: PURE Grips P2 Wrap (red)Shoes: FootJoy Dry-Joy (black, size 14)3Jack's Golf Blog - http://3jack.blogspot.com

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I have read the write up. I'm just telling you what JP told me personally at the 2011 PGA Merchandise Show before their deal fell apart. He also has on his Web site "Studied with Golf Magazine Top 100 Instructor Mike Adams in regards to the concepts of the wedge swing and wedge fitting."

 

And he still has the wedges designes for the PGA Show, one of which included a blatant copy of the Miura K-Grind (so much for innovation and stealing ideas), because he had to pay Edel to keep those heads.

 

One of the questions my readers have asked me about the Edel wedges are what the differences are from the high bounce PING Eye 2 design. That's where the real idea of the Edel wedges came from and even Mike Adams would admit that himself. Not to mention that JP's wedges still have the scorelines in a traditional design whereas the Edel wedges have the scorelines extending out towards the toe.

 

I also have been told what JP's monetary demands were. I would have to know more of what other grinders like Don White and Bob Vokey are making with their companies to get a real comparison. But from what I was told, my initial reaction was that he was asking for entirely too much. Again, I could be wrong.

 

 

 

 

 

3JACK

 

Wedge swing and fitting aren't grinding. Grinding is changing the way the wedge aesthetically looks and the way it interacts with the turf. You don't change the swing to fit the club, you change the grind on the club to fit the swing mechanics so it marries with the turf interaction.

 

Miura wasn't the first to do their K grind either. The notched grind dates back to the 50's and 60's at least, heck, there were a few notched specialty clubs back ar the turn of the 20th century. Miura's K-Grind was released in 2k10. The modern iteration that started the heel relief on the non-leading edge is the Trusty Rusty.


In The Bag
Driver: TaylorMade M2 (2017) w/ Project X T1100 HZRDUS Handcrafted 65x 
Strong 3 wood: Taylormade M1 15* w/ ProjectX T1100 HZRDUS handcrafted 75x
3 Hybrid: Adams PRO 18* w/ KBS Tour Hybrid S flex tipped 1/2"
4 Hybrid: Adams PRO 20* (bent to 21*) w/ KBS Tour Hybrid S flex tipped 1/2"
4-AW: TaylorMade P770 w/ Dynamic Gold Tour Issue Black Onyx S400

SW: 56* Scratch Tour Dept(CC grooves) w/ Dynamic Gold Spinner
LW: 60* Scratch Tour Department (CC grooves) w/ Dynamic Gold Spinner
XW: 64* Cally XForged Vintage w/ DG X100 8 iron tiger stepped
Putter: Nike Method Prototype 006 at 34"

Have a ton of back-ups in all categories, but there are always 14 clubs in the bag that differ depending on the course and set-up. Bomb and gouge. Yes, I'm a club gigolo.

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Wedge swing and fitting aren't grinding. Grinding is changing the way the wedge aesthetically looks and the way it interacts with the turf. You don't change the swing to fit the club, you change the grind on the club to fit the swing mechanics so it marries with the turf interaction.

 

I think that's a bit of '6 in 1 half dozen in the other.' If JP learned swing mechanics and wedge fitting from Mike Adams, then he can use that knowledge to better grind clubs for his customer.

 

Miura wasn't the first to do their K grind either. The notched grind dates back to the 50's and 60's at least, heck, there were a few notched specialty clubs back ar the turn of the 20th century. Miura's K-Grind was released in 2k10. The modern iteration that started the heel relief on the non-leading edge is the Trusty Rusty.

 

By the same token, much of what JP is doing has been around for a while as well. Like spelling out lofts. I had a Hogan wedge that spelled out FIFTY FIVE and I believe Scratch Golf had been doing things of that sort for a while as well. I do think that the K-Grind was popularized by Miura and it's obviously not a coincidence that JP starting grinding and designing heads in the same way.

 

Even still, I find the designs noticeably different and again...I can only go by what JP told me at the PGA Merchandise Show. He changed his tune about what ideas were whose once they didn't reach a deal.

 

And that's not to take away from JP. Cosmetically, I think his wedges are different now from what Edel is doing. Different finishes and all sorts of different little cosmetics going on and personally, I prefer JP's cosmetic work over Edel's. I just think some things about their situation are being misrepresented. That's unless JP lied to me and others at the PGA Show. Perhaps he was trying to 'tow the company line' at the time, but I'm not sure where the benefit in that would be, particularly if they had not even signed a contract.

 

 

 

 

 

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Author of Pro Golf Synopsis. The Moneyball approach to golf strategy and analysis.Driver: Wishon 919THI, 10° loft, UST Mamiya VTS Red 7x, 44-3/8” long, 2,825 kg/cm^2 MOIGONZO WOOD: confidential2-Hybrid: Mizuno Fli-HiCLK, 17° loft, 40-7/8" KBS Tour Hybrid shaft (stiff)3-Hybrid: Mizuno Fli-HiCLK, 20° loft, 40" KBS Tour Hybrid shaft (stiff)4-6 iron: Wishon 575MMC (CB)7-PW: Wishon 575MMC (MB)SW: Edel Golf driver grind, 52° loft, 16° bounce, Nippon WV 125 shaft.LW: Edel Golf Digger Grind, 60° loft, 27° bounce, Nippon WV 125 ShaftPutter: Edel Golf Columbia Custom Made, 35" long, 72° lie angle, 3° loft. Ball: Titleist Pro V1xGrips: PURE Grips P2 Wrap (red)Shoes: FootJoy Dry-Joy (black, size 14)3Jack's Golf Blog - http://3jack.blogspot.com

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We agree that Miura introduced his K-Grind in 2010 right?

 

This is from 2009, a contest in which people were naming JP's new grind(it was decided on as the Santoku grind). And yes, he was working on raw Miura overweight blanks at the time.

 

http://www.golfwrx.com/forums/topic/305227-james-patrick-wedge-giveaway-name-that-grind/

 

X, I'm sorry for linking a different site here, but it proves my point in this case.


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Driver: TaylorMade M2 (2017) w/ Project X T1100 HZRDUS Handcrafted 65x 
Strong 3 wood: Taylormade M1 15* w/ ProjectX T1100 HZRDUS handcrafted 75x
3 Hybrid: Adams PRO 18* w/ KBS Tour Hybrid S flex tipped 1/2"
4 Hybrid: Adams PRO 20* (bent to 21*) w/ KBS Tour Hybrid S flex tipped 1/2"
4-AW: TaylorMade P770 w/ Dynamic Gold Tour Issue Black Onyx S400

SW: 56* Scratch Tour Dept(CC grooves) w/ Dynamic Gold Spinner
LW: 60* Scratch Tour Department (CC grooves) w/ Dynamic Gold Spinner
XW: 64* Cally XForged Vintage w/ DG X100 8 iron tiger stepped
Putter: Nike Method Prototype 006 at 34"

Have a ton of back-ups in all categories, but there are always 14 clubs in the bag that differ depending on the course and set-up. Bomb and gouge. Yes, I'm a club gigolo.

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Interesting. I stand corrected (although he did ape the grind from somebody else :) )

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Author of Pro Golf Synopsis. The Moneyball approach to golf strategy and analysis.Driver: Wishon 919THI, 10° loft, UST Mamiya VTS Red 7x, 44-3/8” long, 2,825 kg/cm^2 MOIGONZO WOOD: confidential2-Hybrid: Mizuno Fli-HiCLK, 17° loft, 40-7/8" KBS Tour Hybrid shaft (stiff)3-Hybrid: Mizuno Fli-HiCLK, 20° loft, 40" KBS Tour Hybrid shaft (stiff)4-6 iron: Wishon 575MMC (CB)7-PW: Wishon 575MMC (MB)SW: Edel Golf driver grind, 52° loft, 16° bounce, Nippon WV 125 shaft.LW: Edel Golf Digger Grind, 60° loft, 27° bounce, Nippon WV 125 ShaftPutter: Edel Golf Columbia Custom Made, 35" long, 72° lie angle, 3° loft. Ball: Titleist Pro V1xGrips: PURE Grips P2 Wrap (red)Shoes: FootJoy Dry-Joy (black, size 14)3Jack's Golf Blog - http://3jack.blogspot.com

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Here is the email from Edel:

 

We researched other companies' amount of bounce in their irons. The most we could find was 5* bounce on a 7 iron (avg 3*) and it went down from there with an average of 1* on a 3 iron.

 

David's first prototype was a 7 iron with 12* of bounce. The results were absolutely amazing. We found cleaner turf interaction as well as using higher lofts drives the ball further. Reason being is the club is not getting stuck in the ground and has more force. This turns into better strikes and faster club head speed for the golfer.

 

 

I sure would love to put this idea to the test, though with production being super limited, I'm sure I won't get the chance.


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I sure would love to put this idea to the test, though with production being super limited, I'm sure I won't get the chance.

 

Matt,

I'd love to put the theory to the test as well. Hell, even if I couldn't, I'd love to at least read about someone that did. With that said, unless the clubs were forged by God himself, there's no way I'm paying $350 per iron for any club. Miura's aren't that much unless you select really expensive shafts that are rare and exotic. And even then, they'd be double K stamps. DW Customs from Scratch don't touch that either unless you're going really exotic and they're handmade one offs.


In The Bag
Driver: TaylorMade M2 (2017) w/ Project X T1100 HZRDUS Handcrafted 65x 
Strong 3 wood: Taylormade M1 15* w/ ProjectX T1100 HZRDUS handcrafted 75x
3 Hybrid: Adams PRO 18* w/ KBS Tour Hybrid S flex tipped 1/2"
4 Hybrid: Adams PRO 20* (bent to 21*) w/ KBS Tour Hybrid S flex tipped 1/2"
4-AW: TaylorMade P770 w/ Dynamic Gold Tour Issue Black Onyx S400

SW: 56* Scratch Tour Dept(CC grooves) w/ Dynamic Gold Spinner
LW: 60* Scratch Tour Department (CC grooves) w/ Dynamic Gold Spinner
XW: 64* Cally XForged Vintage w/ DG X100 8 iron tiger stepped
Putter: Nike Method Prototype 006 at 34"

Have a ton of back-ups in all categories, but there are always 14 clubs in the bag that differ depending on the course and set-up. Bomb and gouge. Yes, I'm a club gigolo.

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any company that says this one design is the best for all is nuts. Greg Norman barely took a divot... why would he want tons of bounce?


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any company that says this one design is the best for all is nuts. Greg Norman barely took a divot... why would he want tons of bounce?

 

Agreed. One size doesn't fit all. But I'd like to know how it might fit me...:D

 

Regardless, they ain't gonna sell, though if he's only gotta sell 200 sets, maybe.

 

 

 

Fairways & Greens 4ever...

 

Edel has been around a while. I would guess that he's got half of these pre-sold and he knows where the other half are going. Plenty of people out there with more money than sense.


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Agreed. One size doesn't fit all. But I'd like to know how it might fit me...:D

 

 

 

Edel has been around a while. I would guess that he's got half of these pre-sold and he knows where the other half are going. Plenty of people out there with more money than sense.

 

Very true. I'd be bouncing the long irons off the baked hard pan turf in my area, but it would be fun to demo them!

 

With that said I think too much bounce is better than not enough bounce.


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