Adams stuff - General discussion

[Super Tuna]

Anyone else notice that the lie angle on the LS driver is only 55? That has to be the flatest driver lie angle I've seen from a OEM in quite awhile. Aside from the graphics, that right there is enough to try it out since I cannot stand how upright clubs are these days.

 

Equally interesting, looks like MRC is pushing the Kuro kage big time. REal deal KK's in the Cobra Amp Cell Pro, the Adams LS and the Nike Coverts.

[Matt Saternus]

Anyone else notice that the lie angle on the LS driver is only 55? That has to be the flatest driver lie angle I've seen from a OEM in quite awhile. Aside from the graphics, that right there is enough to try it out since I cannot stand how upright clubs are these days.

 

Equally interesting, looks like MRC is pushing the Kuro kage big time. REal deal KK's in the Cobra Amp Cell Pro, the Adams LS and the Nike Coverts.

 

The big Kuro Kage push is interesting...a friend told me that MRC is done with "Made For", which leaves me to wonder what is being made in China vs. Japan now.

[Ice]

The big Kuro Kage push is interesting...a friend told me that MRC is done with "Made For", which leaves me to wonder what is being made in China vs. Japan now.

 

I assume all their made fors will come from Aldila now?

[CTEagle]

The one you linked is the retail model that doesn't have VST. The one I linked is the same headshape with the VST and its tour only. They never released the one I linked retail.

 

They're both A12's, in the Proto G (formerly Peanut) headshape.

 

The new one I've seen will be slightly larger. Not quite Super Hybrid size but not quite as small as the Proto G.

 

Is the Super LS the new one you're referring to in the above post?

[Matt Saternus]

I assume all their made fors will come from Aldila now?

 

No idea. The comment I relayed came before the Aldila acquisition.

[Super Tuna]

The big Kuro Kage push is interesting...a friend told me that MRC is done with "Made For", which leaves me to wonder what is being made in China vs. Japan now.

 

Probably a better plan. The made for's didn't seem to go down all that well with some segments of the buying public. I also know a bunch of MRC shops just about dropped them entirely due to customers getting confused, buying the cheaper Titleist ones on Ebay and such instead of the one they were fitted for and then blasting the fitter for doing a bad job. Same thing that Matrix ran into with a couple of shops after they made those horrible Xcon's for Titleist/Cobra. Funny how when they moved the made for's to TM, they complaints stopped...

 

Anyways, killing that practice is good. If they want to keep their high end rep, they need to do this. Plus, maybe they can get another dollar per shaft or something out of the OEM's when they mass sell. Look at all the comments about "how do they put a $375 shaft into a $400 driver??? If it's real I must buy it" and bamf, more people pick up last year's rehashed unit.

 

Going back to the Adams LS, I also just noticed that the lie is adjustable as well (and I really hope they mean lie and not face angle there). That would get me down to 54 stock with the ability to drop it further by cutting it shorter. Possibilities there.

[RookieBlue7]

Is the Super LS the new one you're referring to in the above post?

 

 

Not sure, as I haven't seen the LS hybrid yet. I was told by the Adams rep I deal with that the one that was on tour last year late would be introduced this year in some form (the smaller head with the VST in it). Course they're putting the VST in everything now it seems.

[Matt Saternus]

Probably a better plan. The made for's didn't seem to go down all that well with some segments of the buying public. I also know a bunch of MRC shops just about dropped them entirely due to customers getting confused, buying the cheaper Titleist ones on Ebay and such instead of the one they were fitted for and then blasting the fitter for doing a bad job. Same thing that Matrix ran into with a couple of shops after they made those horrible Xcon's for Titleist/Cobra. Funny how when they moved the made for's to TM, they complaints stopped...

 

Anyways, killing that practice is good. If they want to keep their high end rep, they need to do this. Plus, maybe they can get another dollar per shaft or something out of the OEM's when they mass sell. Look at all the comments about "how do they put a $375 shaft into a $400 driver??? If it's real I must buy it" and bamf, more people pick up last year's rehashed unit.

 

Going back to the Adams LS, I also just noticed that the lie is adjustable as well (and I really hope they mean lie and not face angle there). That would get me down to 54 stock with the ability to drop it further by cutting it shorter. Possibilities there.

 

I agree that no more "Made For" is a good thing, but what will MRC do with their Chinese facility? Are they going to make "the same" shaft there, but just to lower standards than the aftermarket? Or are they going to raise the quality of everything, including OEM stock stuff, to the level of the aftermarket stock stuff?

 

Call me jaded, but my money is not on the latter.

 

Also, not trying to single out MRC, it's just that I know a little more about them from some friends. I suspect every shaft company is in the same boat.

[CTEagle]

Not sure, as I haven't seen the LS hybrid yet. I was told by the Adams rep I deal with that the one that was on tour last year late would be introduced this year in some form (the smaller head with the VST in it). Course they're putting the VST in everything now it seems.

 

Ok, so there's supposed to be a third hybrid with a smaller head. That's what I was looking for, thanks.

[Super Tuna]

I agree that no more "Made For" is a good thing, but what will MRC do with their Chinese facility? Are they going to make "the same" shaft there, but just to lower standards than the aftermarket? Or are they going to raise the quality of everything, including OEM stock stuff, to the level of the aftermarket stock stuff?

 

Call me jaded, but my money is not on the latter.

 

Also, not trying to single out MRC, it's just that I know a little more about them from some friends. I suspect every shaft company is in the same boat.

 

Suspcion: Aldila shaft production gets moved to China. Higher end stuff stays in Japan. US Aldila site makes made for's and items for defense and tech contracts to give easier access for the companies there that deal with them.

[Matt Saternus]

Suspcion: Aldila shaft production gets moved to China. Higher end stuff stays in Japan. US Aldila site makes made for's and items for defense and tech contracts to give easier access for the companies there that deal with them.

 

That would certainly suit me just fine. I've never cared for Aldila shafts anyway, so I don't much care about the tolerances on them. On the other hand, I'd hate to see MRC take a turn for the worse, I enjoy their product a lot.