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Some of the fellas had a chance to try these the other day. (I missed it. Christmas Tree hunting) So here are the pics.

RBZ Stage 2 vs R1

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R1 Crown

 

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RBZ Stage 2 Crown

 

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Stage 2 sole

 

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Stage 2 face

 

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R1 Sole

 

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Thoughts??

Driver -   Ping G400 9° Project X HRZDUS Yellow Handcrafted 65 S
Fairway -  Tour Edge Exotics CB2 15° Grafalloy Prolite 35  S

Fairway - Tour Edge Exotics CB2 18° Grafalloy Prolite 35  S

2 Iron - :srixon-small: ZU65 18° AeroTech SteelFiber 110icw S

3 Iron - :srixon-small: Z585  TTDG TI S400 1° flat

Irons -  :srixon-small: Z785  TTDG TI S400 5-Pw 1° flat
Wedges - :cleveland-small: RTX Zipcore Raw 50° 54° 58°  TTGDTI S400 1° flat

Putters -   Cameron Phantom 5x/Odyssey Toulon Stroke Lab Austin/Odyssey 2 Ball DFX/ TaylorMade Spider
Tour Black/Ping Anser F/Scotty Cameron TeI3 Sole Stamp Newport 2. All with different grips, weights, and lengths.
 

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Yuck! Not a fan, maybe it grows on you, like a fungus, which is what the top looks like.

 

Driver:      :mizuno-small:  ST190G on Fujikura ATMOS Black

Fairway:   :mizuno-small:  ST190TS 15° on Fujikura ATMOS Black

Hybrids     :mizuno-small:  CLK 22 & 25 (set to 20° & 23°) on Fujikura SPEEDER

Irons:     :mizuno-small:  MP5 5-P on True Temper Dynamic Gold

Wedges: :mizuno-small: MP-T5 52*, 56* & 60* on True Temper Dynamic Gold Wedge

Putter:    :cameron-small: 2018 Select Newport 2

Balls:      :titelist-small: Pro V1X

Shoes:     :footjoy-small:

Range Finder: Precision Pro  NX7 Pro

All grips are BestGrips Micro-Perforated

 

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Interesting. That R1 has a built in compass in the sole! :lol:

 

I thought it was a joke at first that some one glued a compass on the bottom, but it is not a compass, just looks like one.

 

Driver:      :mizuno-small:  ST190G on Fujikura ATMOS Black

Fairway:   :mizuno-small:  ST190TS 15° on Fujikura ATMOS Black

Hybrids     :mizuno-small:  CLK 22 & 25 (set to 20° & 23°) on Fujikura SPEEDER

Irons:     :mizuno-small:  MP5 5-P on True Temper Dynamic Gold

Wedges: :mizuno-small: MP-T5 52*, 56* & 60* on True Temper Dynamic Gold Wedge

Putter:    :cameron-small: 2018 Select Newport 2

Balls:      :titelist-small: Pro V1X

Shoes:     :footjoy-small:

Range Finder: Precision Pro  NX7 Pro

All grips are BestGrips Micro-Perforated

 

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Those crowns are begging for a paint job.

 

I'm actually interested in hearing about all the new features, they need something good to recover from the paint scheme.

Driver: :callaway-logo-1: Epic SZ w/ VA Composites Raijin 65 04

3w: :taylormade-small:'16 M2 hl w/ Diamana D+ 82

5w: :cleveland-small: Launcher HB w/ HZRDUS Yellow

Hybrid: :cleveland-small: 22 deg. Launcher HB w/ HZRDUS Black

Irons: :ping-small: 5i-UW G700 w/ X100 soft stepped once

Wedges: :cleveland-small: 54 & 58 CBX w/ Nippon Modus 3 125

Putter: :odyssey-small: Red 7s

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I can't wait to hear the story on the crown graphics.

 

TV recognition?

 

There's a well known/respected poster elsewhere who has commented that this and a number of other designs were given to the Tour players as options. The choice on the R1 was supposidly the overwhelming favorite of them including some more plainer designs.

I laught at your claims to fight a zombie apocalypse when most of you can't stand up to a Spider

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And so it begins. Samsung is releasing a flexible LCD screen in 2013, how long before TaylorMade incorporates that into the driver crown so we can watch TM commercials while we're setting up to hit the ball? They'll charge extra for the non-Commercial version, but cheapskates will have to watch!

Ping I20 8.5* - Aldila NV 65g S
Adams XTD Super Hybrid 15* - Stock Fubuki S
Adams DHY 21* - Stock Matrix Ozik White Tie S
Mizuno MP58 4-8 Irons - Fujikura MCI 100 S
SCOR 42,46,50,54,58* - SCOR/KBS Genius S
STX Robert Ingman Envision TR 35", Iomic grip

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Welp the crown paint scheme is looking like the open door that Nike needed to start their run towards #1

Driver--Taylormade RBZ Tour 9* Aldila RIP Phenom 65s

Fairway Metal--Taylormade R11s 14* Aldila RIP Phenom 70s

Hybrid--Taylormade RBZ Tour 18.5* RE-AX 85 gram S

Irons--Nike Vr Pro-Combo 4-PW True Temper Dynamic Gold S300

Wedges--Nike SV Tour Forged 50*, 56*, 60* True Temper Dynamic Gold

Putter--Scotty Cameron California Del Mar

Ball--Taylormade Lethal

Grips--Lamkin R.E.L 3Gen (Woods-green, Irons-red, Wedges-white)

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In regards to the new awful looking graphics...

I would guess if it was white again, to many people watching golf at home on the weekends wouldn't realize TM had a new driver out. This way they can recognize it's different...and boy it sure is.

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TV recognition?

 

There's a well known/respected poster elsewhere who has commented that this and a number of other designs were given to the Tour players as options. The choice on the R1 was supposidly the overwhelming favorite of them including some more plainer designs.

 

That was me, and yes, this is the most radical, and CLEARLY the favorite of the touring pros. I think once you hold it in your hands you'll see some of the actual usefulness. It's almost like having TrueAim already installed. The crux of the design is exactly at the sweet spot, which MOST people feel is toward the heel. I'm torn on it. I play an R11s right now, and love it. This thing and the Covert are really great, just not sure how I feel about the crown. (Full disclosure--I have TrueAim on my driver right now, so I am used to busy graphics--and this is definitely busy.)

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The graphics are just dumb. I heard that they had Rose and Johnson testing and both wanted the graphics gone and back to all white as it was a giant distraction.....I see a lot of ppl on these forums buying and having them refinished in all white or matte black.....And obviously we are starting to see the TM push onto Adams as the new sppedline has graphics all over the crown as well, kinda sad....I am interested in the adapter situation with all the new independent loft and face angle control designs (TM, Nike Covert, Cobra Cell).....Still think the big movers this yr will be Nike with the Covert and Cally with their Rxr Fit extreme.....

 

 

Aside from the loft and asp compass what is the real difference between the R11s and RBZ and the new R1 and RBZ Stage 2?

R11s 9 Open ASP w/Aerotech Powercoil 65X tipped 1"

Cally XHot 15 w/ Powercoil 65S

Mizuno MP Fli-Hi 18 w/Player Spec Stiff HS 1X

Miura 501s 3-P w/Player Spec Stiff HS 1x

TM XFT 54/60 w/Steelfiber i125s

PING Nome TR SS Ultra Thin Red

ALL Irons/Woods PURE Isle of Capri Pure Pro std w/2 wraps

Srixon XV Yellow

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Thanks for posting these!

Just reinforced the idea of going Cobra/Nike next year!

:cobra-small: SpeedZone 9* w/ Aldila Rogue Silver 60 S
:callaway-small: X2 Hot 3 Deep 14.5* w/ Aldila Tour Green 75 S
:taylormade-small: JetSpeed 5W 19* w/ Matrix Velox T 69 S OR :adams-small: Super LS 3H 19* w/ Kuro Kage Black 80 S
:mizuno-small: JPX919 Forged 4-PW w/ Modus3 105 S
:titelist-small: Vokey SM7 50/08F, 54/14F & 58/08M w/ Modus3 115 Wedge
:EVNROLL: ER1 34" w/ SuperStroke Fatso 2.0
MfleKCg.jpg Pro / 9dZCgaF.jpgH2NO Lite Cart Bag / :Clicgear: 3.0 / :918457628_PrecisionPro: NX7 Pro LRF

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Sure thing. The fellas that hit these thought that they were better than last years woods. Aside from the crown graphics...

Driver -   Ping G400 9° Project X HRZDUS Yellow Handcrafted 65 S
Fairway -  Tour Edge Exotics CB2 15° Grafalloy Prolite 35  S

Fairway - Tour Edge Exotics CB2 18° Grafalloy Prolite 35  S

2 Iron - :srixon-small: ZU65 18° AeroTech SteelFiber 110icw S

3 Iron - :srixon-small: Z585  TTDG TI S400 1° flat

Irons -  :srixon-small: Z785  TTDG TI S400 5-Pw 1° flat
Wedges - :cleveland-small: RTX Zipcore Raw 50° 54° 58°  TTGDTI S400 1° flat

Putters -   Cameron Phantom 5x/Odyssey Toulon Stroke Lab Austin/Odyssey 2 Ball DFX/ TaylorMade Spider
Tour Black/Ping Anser F/Scotty Cameron TeI3 Sole Stamp Newport 2. All with different grips, weights, and lengths.
 

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The graphics are just dumb. I heard that they had Rose and Johnson testing and both wanted the graphics gone and back to all white as it was a giant distraction.....I see a lot of ppl on these forums buying and having them refinished in all white or matte black.....And obviously we are starting to see the TM push onto Adams as the new sppedline has graphics all over the crown as well, kinda sad....I am interested in the adapter situation with all the new independent loft and face angle control designs (TM, Nike Covert, Cobra Cell).....Still think the big movers this yr will be Nike with the Covert and Cally with their Rxr Fit extreme.....

 

 

Aside from the loft and asp compass what is the real difference between the R11s and RBZ and the new R1 and RBZ Stage 2?

 

Everyone needs to understand something---there is no possible way to decouple loft from face angle. It is not possible. It is semantics and engineering trickery to make you think that is what is happening. They cannot be adjusted independently. You'll see when you actually get the drivers in your hands.

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Everyone needs to understand something---there is no possible way to decouple loft from face angle. It is not possible. It is semantics and engineering trickery to make you think that is what is happening. They cannot be adjusted independently. You'll see when you actually get the drivers in your hands.

I suppose you could argue it is possible, but then it would be changing the lie angle with it instead. If you hover the club at address instead of soling it to take your grip, you're correcting for the face angle change already the way I see it. I could be wrong about this. But that's how I'm picturing it anyway. Feel free to correct me if I am wrong.

Nike claims to have done it. So I'm really wondering what they actually did. It seems like changing the angle the shaft enters the head will change more than one setting no matter how you do it.

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Changing loft without face angle can be done, but it isn't feasible to actually do on a mass produced driver. It would be like bending loft on an iron. You'd need a hinge like adapter. But, the one piece once used now are much simpler.

What's In The Bag:

 

Adams 9064LS

Ben Hogan Edge CFT Ti

Ben Hogan Apex Edge 4-PW

TaylorMade ATV 50* 54*

Mizuno Bettinardi BC3 Tour Issue

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That was me, and yes, this is the most radical, and CLEARLY the favorite of the touring pros. I think once you hold it in your hands you'll see some of the actual usefulness. It's almost like having TrueAim already installed. The crux of the design is exactly at the sweet spot, which MOST people feel is toward the heel. I'm torn on it. I play an R11s right now, and love it. This thing and the Covert are really great, just not sure how I feel about the crown. (Full disclosure--I have TrueAim on my driver right now, so I am used to busy graphics--and this is definitely busy.)

It may help with alignment and sweet spot, but how does the logo and varied colors aid in that?


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