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I almost had a seizure looking at these.

I hope that was not Tmag's intention....

Driver - :taylormade-small:   SIM2 Max 9° Tour MT 6-S   or   :srixon-small: ZX 7 9.5° Ventus VeloCore Blue S
Fairway - :srixon-small: ZX  3 wd. Ventus VeloCore Blue S

Hybrid - :srixon-small: ZX 18° GD Tour IZ S

2 Iron - :srixon-small: ZU65 18° AeroTech SteelFiber 110icw S

Irons -  :srixon-small: ZX7  Aerotech SteelFiber 110icw  4-Pw 1° flat
Wedges - :cleveland-small: RTX Zipcore Raw 50° 54° 58°  TTGDTI S400 1° flat

Putters -   Cameron Phantom 5x/Odyssey Toulon Stroke Lab Austin/Odyssey 2 Ball DFX/ TaylorMade Spider
Tour Black/Ping Anser F/Scotty Cameron TeI3 Sole Stamp Newport 2. All with different grips, weights, and lengths.
 

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I can't say that i like the looks, but at the same time I think its something I could get used to. Ultimately I pick a driver if it meets two criteria-

Can I afford it?

If so, do I hit it well?

honestly, if it meets those two requirements then I am going to get it. The only affect the looks would have is maybe a distraction when at address, but that would also affect the way I hit it.

 

Bottom line, performance is everything. Now I'm not saying you have to like a driver like this, but I have to say that if you had two drivers, hit one better than another, but picked the one you didn't hit as consistently or as good, I would say you are an idiot.

 

Golf is about playing better, at least for me. I guess if you play golf to look good doing it, then by all means pick your clubs for looks.

 

Obviously looks can effect performance and confidence, and cause distraction, but when looks get more important that performance....


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    In my Adams Hercules cart bag...
    DriverPing I15 9.5* TFC stiff
    Hook MachineTaylormade Burner Superfast Rescue 18*
    3 HybridAdams ProA12 20* stiff matrix Ozik Altus
    IronsCleveland CG16 Tour Black Pearl 4-PW True Temper Dynamic Gold S300
    Birdie-MakerMizuno JPX 50*-10*
    Piece of CrapOrlimar 56*
    On the wayCleveland 588 forged 62*-10*
    Mid-Round FuelSnickers bars
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I can't say that i like the looks, but at the same time I think its something I could get used to. Ultimately I pick a driver if it meets two criteria-

Can I afford it?

If so, do I hit it well?

honestly, if it meets those two requirements then I am going to get it. The only affect the looks would have is maybe a distraction when at address, but that would also affect the way I hit it.

 

Bottom line, performance is everything. Now I'm not saying you have to like a driver like this, but I have to say that if you had two drivers, hit one better than another, but picked the one you didn't hit as consistently or as good, I would say you are an idiot.

 

Golf is about playing better, at least for me. I guess if you play golf to look good doing it, then by all means pick your clubs for looks.

 

Obviously looks can effect performance and confidence, and cause distraction, but when looks get more important that performance....

 

I'm sure there are a lot of drivers you can afford and a lot you can hit well. Now I know you well enough to know that you don't care about shafts or fitting, so getting fit for a driver on a launch monitor isn't something you'd do. So how do you choose between three drivers you can afford and you hit well if you don't care about looks?

 

The vast majority of golfers would hit a K15 driver or RocketBladez irons waaaaaaaay "better" than say a J40 430 driver or 712MBs Does that make everyone who buys the latter idiots?

What's In The Bag:

 

Adams 9064LS

Ben Hogan Edge CFT Ti

Ben Hogan Apex Edge 4-PW

TaylorMade ATV 50* 54*

Mizuno Bettinardi BC3 Tour Issue

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I'm sure there are a lot of drivers you can afford and a lot you can hit well. Now I know you well enough to know that you don't care about shafts or fitting, so getting fit for a driver on a launch monitor isn't something you'd do. So how do you choose between three drivers you can afford and you hit well if you don't care about looks?

 

The vast majority of golfers would hit a K15 driver or RocketBladez irons waaaaaaaay "better" than say a J40 430 driver or 712MBs Does that make everyone who buys the latter idiots?

Better has many forms for different people. If they pass up the driver that they hit better in the way they wish to hit a driver for another then yes, that is the move of an idiot.

Can't say there is a case in which I would hit 3 drivers identically, and if I ever did I would certainly choose the one that costs the least. No point in paying more for the same exact performance in my eyes.

I also have no issue with getting fit on a launch monitor, just not now. I'm not getting something completely custom fit for me right now as my swing is always changing slightly which would make a custom fitting useless once my swing continues to change.


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    In my Adams Hercules cart bag...
    DriverPing I15 9.5* TFC stiff
    Hook MachineTaylormade Burner Superfast Rescue 18*
    3 HybridAdams ProA12 20* stiff matrix Ozik Altus
    IronsCleveland CG16 Tour Black Pearl 4-PW True Temper Dynamic Gold S300
    Birdie-MakerMizuno JPX 50*-10*
    Piece of CrapOrlimar 56*
    On the wayCleveland 588 forged 62*-10*
    Mid-Round FuelSnickers bars
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HULK JUST WONDER WHY TMAG NOT YET GET INTO COLOR CUSTOMIZATION LIKE CALLAWAY. HULK WOULD LIKE TO HAVE CHOICE OF GRIP COLOR, HEAD COLOR, DECALS ETC. TMAG GIVE HULK WHAT HE WANT OR HULK SMASH

Twitter @angrygolfhulk

Instagram angrygolfhulkDriver-Callaway Razr Fit 9.5* Stiff3 Wood-Taylormade R9 15* StiffHybrids 3,4,5 Rocketballz RegIrons 6-Gap Rocketballz RegSW-Cobra Trusty Rusty 55*LW-Taylormade Rac Black 60*Putter-Odyssey Sabertooth 33"Back up irons-Taylormade Rac Muscleback Forged 5-GW Rifle Shafts 6.0

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OK so here we go again.. The slanted lines is for alignment to show you how not to hit a slice and to bring the club to the inside.. The white to reduce the glare and the compass on the bottom to always hit the fairway.. Also you will always hit the ball 17 yards more..

Whats in the bag:

 

Titleist 910D2 10.5 Graphite Design Y7-S

Adams 1600 proto 14.5 Graphite Design AD DJ

Titleist 910F 17 Ust Tour Black

Titleist 910H 22 Diamana Kali

Adams Idea Pro A12 4-9 KBS C Taper

Titleist Vokey SM4 46 degree w/ DG Spinner

Mizuno MP R12 50-54-58 DG spinner

Ping Redwood ZB

Ball Nike 20XI-X

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Hate it or love it, but it's probably going to be a success again. From a marketing point of view TM is very slick. You can't argue with that… Well, you can, but you know what I mean ;)

Driver: Cleveland Classic 290 9.0 - Miyazaki C. Kua 43 (S)

Fw Wood: Maruman F3 Shuttle 15* - Roddio Pentacross W-5 BA (S)

Fw Wood: Tourstage 2008 ViQ 19* - Ns Pro GT700 (X)

Hybrid: Nakashima NX1 22* - Pured Fujikura TOUR SPEC Speeder 904HB (X)

Irons: Mizuno MP63 - Ns-Pro GH950 (S)

Wedge: Mizuno MP T-11 50* - Ns-Pro GH950 (S)

Wedges: Epon 210KGX 54*, 58* - Shimada Wedge shaft

Putter: Seemore DB4

Grips: Iomic & Lamkin

Bag: OnOff OB0010 Shingo Katayama limited Tour Bag

Bag: Adidas Japan Tour Bag

Ball: Nike Vapor

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If you've actually held and seen them in person, the graphics aren't nearly as bad as they look in pictures. And no, there's no possible way to adjust loft independent of face angle. Not unless the face and hosel both articulate, which they do not.

In The Bag
Driver: TaylorMade M2 (2017) w/ Project X T1100 HZRDUS Handcrafted 65x 
Strong 3 wood: Taylormade M1 15* w/ ProjectX T1100 HZRDUS handcrafted 75x
3 Hybrid: Adams PRO 18* w/ KBS Tour Hybrid S flex tipped 1/2"
4 Hybrid: Adams PRO 20* (bent to 21*) w/ KBS Tour Hybrid S flex tipped 1/2"
4-AW: TaylorMade P770 w/ Dynamic Gold Tour Issue Black Onyx S400

SW: 56* Scratch Tour Dept(CC grooves) w/ Dynamic Gold Spinner
LW: 60* Scratch Tour Department (CC grooves) w/ Dynamic Gold Spinner
XW: 64* Cally XForged Vintage w/ DG X100 8 iron tiger stepped
Putter: Nike Method Prototype 006 at 34"

Have a ton of back-ups in all categories, but there are always 14 clubs in the bag that differ depending on the course and set-up. Bomb and gouge. Yes, I'm a club gigolo.

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If you've actually held and seen them in person, the graphics aren't nearly as bad as they look in pictures. And no, there's no possible way to adjust loft independent of face angle. Not unless the face and hosel both articulate, which they do not.

 

Interesting. I've found both to be worse in hand actually and don't really like the sound of either. It's something I could get use to if I had to, but not really by choice. They'll certainly sell like hotcakes though.

I laught at your claims to fight a zombie apocalypse when most of you can't stand up to a Spider

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I also have no issue with getting fit on a launch monitor, just not now. I'm not getting something completely custom fit for me right now as my swing is always changing slightly which would make a custom fitting useless once my swing continues to change.

 

News Flash - I'm sorry but if youre a human being your swing will always be changing. For the rest of your golfing life i predict! On your theory you'll never get fit as long as you play the game. Or do you have a certain level of consitencey / performance bookmarked for your swing before you deem it to be ready for fitting clubs to? Even the best players in the world who's swings may look the same from one year to the next are constantly making changes, however small. Their specs will alter. slightly. Jayhawker, I'm only offering my advice here but in my opinion waiting until our swing settles down or until you've finished making changes isn't the right thing to do.

 

Get fitted for the swing you have today. Start hitting better shots today! Unless you're on some kind of full time coaching program where you're changing tons of things in your swing and beating thousands of balls a day to make the alterations stick, it's just not going to change your specifications that much, that quickly.

 

It's one of the biggest excuses I used to hear from students. "Oh I'll get custom fit once I've fixed my swing, I don't want equipment fitted to this swing, it'll be different soon." I'm sorry but much like the fat chick who has a special dress she's slimming down to fit into. Guess what, most of those dresses never see the light of day.

 

The game's difficult enough as it is. Why use equipment that might not suit you whilst you're trying to make changes to get better. I have no idea what equipment you currently use. I have no idea whether its close to suiting your game or absolutely hurting you every time you make a swing. The point is you may as well have the correct tools in your hand today. Why save them for this mystical time in the future where your swing will be better and more consistent and easier to fit!?

 

In my experience, if you get fitted today it'll help. If you wait, you'll never know if it could have helped.

 

Good luck with the swing changes. I'm not beating on you personally, it's just a bug bear of mine when I hear that line about waiting until your swings 'fixed'. It's never fixed. It's always a work in progress.

 

For the record, I'm a TaylorMade staff player too. My opinion on the new R1 / RBZ stage II...?

 

If they out perform the driver you are currently using, buy one. If they don't, don't. I really struggle to understand the all the fuss and commotion about how a new club looks. Who cares how it looks if it hits more fairways / leaves you one less club to the green? Remember all the doubters when the R11 came out with a white head!? Nobody forsaw what would follow. Imagine if there were golf forums around like this when Ping first released their irons.

 

I am yet to get either club in my hand. I'll try them and see which one I hit best and if its better than what is currently in the bag I'll game it. But a lot of that will be down to me getting the spec right and getting fitted properly by one of our excellent technicians. The shaft is a huge part of that so I'll have to try it with several different shaft options on a variety of different settings.

 

Oh and guess what. My swing is changing too. But I can't afford to wait until its finished, I need to play as good as I can as soon as I can!

 

Nick :-)

"The more I practice the luckier I get" - Gary Player


R1, Matrix Black Tie 7M3 S flex
RBZ, 14.5, Matrix Black Tie 7M3 S flex
R11 17 & 22 Rescues, Motore F3 S flex
Rocketbladez Tour irons, 5 - PW,
ATV 50,54,Tour preferred 58 wedges
Daddy Long Legs 33-35"
Tour Preferred X
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Sorry, +50? :mellow:

"The more I practice the luckier I get" - Gary Player


R1, Matrix Black Tie 7M3 S flex
RBZ, 14.5, Matrix Black Tie 7M3 S flex
R11 17 & 22 Rescues, Motore F3 S flex
Rocketbladez Tour irons, 5 - PW,
ATV 50,54,Tour preferred 58 wedges
Daddy Long Legs 33-35"
Tour Preferred X
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News Flash - I'm sorry but if youre a human being your swing will always be changing. For the rest of your golfing life i predict! On your theory you'll never get fit as long as you play the game. Or do you have a certain level of consitencey / performance bookmarked for your swing before you deem it to be ready for fitting clubs to? Even the best players in the world who's swings may look the same from one year to the next are constantly making changes, however small. Their specs will alter. slightly. Jayhawker, I'm only offering my advice here but in my opinion waiting until our swing settles down or until you've finished making changes isn't the right thing to do.

 

Get fitted for the swing you have today. Start hitting better shots today! Unless you're on some kind of full time coaching program where you're changing tons of things in your swing and beating thousands of balls a day to make the alterations stick, it's just not going to change your specifications that much, that quickly.

 

It's one of the biggest excuses I used to hear from students. "Oh I'll get custom fit once I've fixed my swing, I don't want equipment fitted to this swing, it'll be different soon." I'm sorry but much like the fat chick who has a special dress she's slimming down to fit into. Guess what, most of those dresses never see the light of day.

 

The game's difficult enough as it is. Why use equipment that might not suit you whilst you're trying to make changes to get better. I have no idea what equipment you currently use. I have no idea whether its close to suiting your game or absolutely hurting you every time you make a swing. The point is you may as well have the correct tools in your hand today. Why save them for this mystical time in the future where your swing will be better and more consistent and easier to fit!?

 

In my experience, if you get fitted today it'll help. If you wait, you'll never know if it could have helped.

 

Good luck with the swing changes. I'm not beating on you personally, it's just a bug bear of mine when I hear that line about waiting until your swings 'fixed'. It's never fixed. It's always a work in progress.

 

For the record, I'm a TaylorMade staff player too. My opinion on the new R1 / RBZ stage II...?

 

If they out perform the driver you are currently using, buy one. If they don't, don't. I really struggle to understand the all the fuss and commotion about how a new club looks. Who cares how it looks if it hits more fairways / leaves you one less club to the green? Remember all the doubters when the R11 came out with a white head!? Nobody forsaw what would follow. Imagine if there were golf forums around like this when Ping first released their irons.

 

I am yet to get either club in my hand. I'll try them and see which one I hit best and if its better than what is currently in the bag I'll game it. But a lot of that will be down to me getting the spec right and getting fitted properly by one of our excellent technicians. The shaft is a huge part of that so I'll have to try it with several different shaft options on a variety of different settings.

 

Oh and guess what. My swing is changing too. But I can't afford to wait until its finished, I need to play as good as I can as soon as I can!

 

Nick :-)

I agree with what you said, I guess there is some missed information. Being a junior golfer, I am still growing, and my swing changes at a much more rapid pace than your average golfer. I also do not have the money to drop on a fitting multiple times and pay for the items suggested by these fittings. In other words, when I am done growing is the time that I will be getting a swing fitting, as I do not want to go and get a swing fitting then buy new clubs every month.


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    In my Adams Hercules cart bag...
    DriverPing I15 9.5* TFC stiff
    Hook MachineTaylormade Burner Superfast Rescue 18*
    3 HybridAdams ProA12 20* stiff matrix Ozik Altus
    IronsCleveland CG16 Tour Black Pearl 4-PW True Temper Dynamic Gold S300
    Birdie-MakerMizuno JPX 50*-10*
    Piece of CrapOrlimar 56*
    On the wayCleveland 588 forged 62*-10*
    Mid-Round FuelSnickers bars
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I agree with what you said, I guess there is some missed information. Being a junior golfer, I am still growing, and my swing changes at a much more rapid pace than your average golfer. I also do not have the money to drop on a fitting multiple times and pay for the items suggested by these fittings. In other words, when I am done growing is the time that I will be getting a swing fitting, as I do not want to go and get a swing fitting then buy new clubs every month.

 

:D A junior? Ahhhh, now in that case.....

 

I understand.

 

As you say. Your body will still be changing and until you stop growing a fitting will only match your swing at this moment. However...

 

As soon as you can afford to, I'd still get fit. Shafts can be changed. Lie angles can be altered etc etc. you don't necessarily have to replace everything in your bag if you wake up a couple of mm taller one morning.

 

Years ago, most kids used to grow up playing with completely the wrong equipment and at an early age it can have a real effect on technique. Think John Daly and his massive over swing which he put down to using adults clubs that were too heavy.. Think Dads stiff shafted driver chopped down 6 inches so it was the "right" length etc. Equipment is much more available now for juniors, lighter, more flexible and it makes the game a damn sight more enjoyable for them.

 

I'm guessing you're not quite that young though to be using rainbow coloured junior kit. I understand the investment issue and your desire to 'get it right'. Good for you! Just don't leave it too long hey. Maybe get entering all these fabulous competitions that hold on here and win yourself some customized clubs instead!

 

Good luck with your golf.

 

Nick

"The more I practice the luckier I get" - Gary Player


R1, Matrix Black Tie 7M3 S flex
RBZ, 14.5, Matrix Black Tie 7M3 S flex
R11 17 & 22 Rescues, Motore F3 S flex
Rocketbladez Tour irons, 5 - PW,
ATV 50,54,Tour preferred 58 wedges
Daddy Long Legs 33-35"
Tour Preferred X
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Normally people put +1 if they agree with a post. I agree with what you wrote a lot. :)

 

;) Thanks Matt.

"The more I practice the luckier I get" - Gary Player


R1, Matrix Black Tie 7M3 S flex
RBZ, 14.5, Matrix Black Tie 7M3 S flex
R11 17 & 22 Rescues, Motore F3 S flex
Rocketbladez Tour irons, 5 - PW,
ATV 50,54,Tour preferred 58 wedges
Daddy Long Legs 33-35"
Tour Preferred X
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