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#1 Matt Saternus

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Posted 05 March 2013 - 03:43 AM

Though just thinking about it makes me want to dive off my roof, it is time to start planning the second High Tech Swing Trainer Shootout. So I ask you, readers:

What devices do you want to see included?
What questions do you want answered?
What features are important to you?
What did you like about last year's shootout? What did you not like? What can be improved?
Do you want to hear from the manufacturers?
Would you prefer that I threw all the devices in a box, picked one at random, and declared it the best?

So let's hear it. You know what they say, if you don't vote, you can't complain...or in this case, if you don't answer my questions, you can't b**** about my review.

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PS: Even if you do answer my questions, no one wants to hear your b****ing. ;)

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Posted 05 March 2013 - 03:51 AM

I would like to see the swing shirt for sure.
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Posted 05 March 2013 - 04:39 AM

I want to know what Richard keeps dropping hints about from Tour Tempo but won't tell us yet!

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Posted 05 March 2013 - 05:31 AM

Matt, for the first go around, how comparable were the numbers of the various devices compared to flightscope?

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Posted 05 March 2013 - 01:11 PM

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Matt, for the first go around, how comparable were the numbers of the various devices compared to flightscope?


Not sure I understand your question. All the info from the first test is in that review.

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Posted 05 March 2013 - 03:03 PM

I can't remember if I put this request in for the last round of testing, but I'm going to request the Ernest ES12 be reviewed. I'm also curious if any of the Zelocity products are any good.

My big question is if there are any small, portable devices that will give accurate distance on shots hit at the range. I'm really looking for an easy way to do a gap analysis in more realistic conditions (i.e. outdoors hitting off grass).

Other than that I'm just interested if anything has come out or been upgraded since the last review that is a significant improvement over what was on the market last year.

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Posted 05 March 2013 - 03:03 PM

The new device from Skygolf. Can't remember the name.......... Skypro?

I'd like to hear more about the extras they offer. Online community? Awards for achievements, almost like Playstation and Xbox? Pro feedback on uploaded swings?
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Posted 05 March 2013 - 05:56 PM

Not sure I understand your question. All the info from the first test is in that review.


It was, but as a graded value. I was curious how much off things like ball speed were between these devices and flight scope? I've noticed a pretty big difference at times and a huge difference at other times (saying I have a swing speed of 120mph).

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Posted 05 March 2013 - 06:27 PM

SwingTip & SkyPro are the two I'm most interested in, from what I've read about them, so far.

As to the earlier question about Zelocity, based on what I learned while I was researching golf simulators and launch monitors last year, I dont recommend them.

I'm not going to "tout" another golf blog here but I spent a lot of time reading about both simulators and launch monitors on a Candian golf blog that has a dedicated section devoted to them and Zelocity is not highly regarded there.

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Tom Wishon 949 MC 16.5* Fujikura Speeder 569-A

Hybrid  :cleveland-small: Hibore 22* Aldila VS Proto Blue

Irons  :ping-small: G series 5-P

Wedges :ping-small:Glide 54* SS / 60* TS - SCOR 53*

Putter     :nike-small: Nike Method 001 / P2 Reflex grip 35"

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Posted 05 March 2013 - 06:29 PM

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I can't remember if I put this request in for the last round of testing, but I'm going to request the Ernest ES12 be reviewed. I'm also curious if any of the Zelocity products are any good.

My big question is if there are any small, portable devices that will give accurate distance on shots hit at the range. I'm really looking for an easy way to do a gap analysis in more realistic conditions (i.e. outdoors hitting off grass).

Other than that I'm just interested if anything has come out or been upgraded since the last review that is a significant improvement over what was on the market last year.


We talked to Ernest at the show and a review is a no go for them, unfortunately. Some people can't handle the truth. :)


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It was, but as a graded value. I was curious how much off things like ball speed were between these devices and flight scope? I've noticed a pretty big difference at times and a huge difference at other times (saying I have a swing speed of 120mph).


Putting numbers to those things may be something we look to do this year.

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Posted 05 March 2013 - 09:52 PM

We talked to Ernest at the show and a review is a no go for them, unfortunately. Some people can't handle the truth. :)


I guess that sums it up pretty well then. ES12 is strictly in the "no buy" zone

Driver: :taylormade-small:  SLDR 430 10.5° set to 11° Diamana D+ 62 stiff
Hybrid: Adams Super LS 15°, 17°, 22°, 25° all Kuro Kage Black 80 HY stiff
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Posted 05 March 2013 - 10:21 PM

I guess that sums it up pretty well then. ES12 is strictly in the "no buy" zone


Agreed, off the wishlist for me. :angry:

What's In The Bag

Driver :titelist-small:

Titleist 913 D2 10.5* (set to 9.75* / Neutral) 46" Paderson KINETIXX Kevlar Green - R

Fairway Wood

Tom Wishon 949 MC 16.5* Fujikura Speeder 569-A

Hybrid  :cleveland-small: Hibore 22* Aldila VS Proto Blue

Irons  :ping-small: G series 5-P

Wedges :ping-small:Glide 54* SS / 60* TS - SCOR 53*

Putter     :nike-small: Nike Method 001 / P2 Reflex grip 35"

Ball

Master Grip Tour C4

Bag

Datrek DG Lite  


#13 Mr_Theoo

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Posted 05 March 2013 - 10:31 PM

I guess that sums it up pretty well then. ES12 is strictly in the "no buy" zone


I just ordered on yesterday, should be here by the end of the week. I'm gonna put it through the ringer and see how it stacks up

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Irons:   :taylormade-small: Tour Preferred MC 4-PW w/ Projecy X Flighted 6.0 Hard-stepped

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Posted 06 March 2013 - 12:34 AM

I just ordered on yesterday, should be here by the end of the week. I'm gonna put it through the ringer and see how it stacks up


Cool, I'd love to read a review of it once you get a chance to put it through the paces. Especially how accurate it is with giving distance.

Driver: :taylormade-small:  SLDR 430 10.5° set to 11° Diamana D+ 62 stiff
Hybrid: Adams Super LS 15°, 17°, 22°, 25° all Kuro Kage Black 80 HY stiff
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Posted 06 March 2013 - 05:17 PM

Here's my current list of invitees, please tell me who I'm missing:

Swing Smart
Swing Byte
Golf Sense
Swing TIP
Sky Pro (Sky Caddie product, I think that's the right name)
3Bays GSA

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