revkev 22,017 Posted March 8, 2013 Share Posted March 8, 2013 Enjoy that fitting - tell us how it goes! Quote Ping G410 - set at 12 degrees, fade setting - Fujikura Motore X R flex Ping G410 5-9 wood G30 6-PW - Aerotech FT 500 shafts SCOR 48,52,56,60 EVNRoll ER 5 Titleist Pro VIx optic yellow with revkev stamped on them Link to post Share on other sites
MattF 9,482 Posted March 8, 2013 Author Share Posted March 8, 2013 Enjoy that fitting - tell us how it goes! Will do! Quote In the bag: Driver: M5 Project X Even Flow Blue 6.0 Fairway: Sub 70 939X 15° Project X Even Flow Blue 6.0 Hybrid: CBX 119 19° hybrid Project X Even Flow Blue 6.0 Irons: D7 Forged 4-GW Project X Catalyst 80 6.0 Wedge: Smartsole S Putter Tracy Bag: Alpha Convoy 514 Balls: MTB-X or Black Cart: CaddyLite ONE Ver. 8 God Bless America, God save the Queen, God defend New Zealand and thank Christ for Australia! Link to post Share on other sites
Super Tuna 0 Posted March 8, 2013 Share Posted March 8, 2013 10.75 with a face that 2* closed at 44" length and D2.5 along with -1/64th grip has been proven to be my sweet spot. Down to 10 or up to 11 can be dealt with, it just alters the numbers a bit. Of course having those numbers means I very precisely don't use them yet . In the mean time, the R11 seems to deputize well. Getting the parts in to finally make it happen though. Quote I laught at your claims to fight a zombie apocalypse when most of you can't stand up to a Spider Link to post Share on other sites
Kor.A.Door 5,838 Posted March 8, 2013 Share Posted March 8, 2013 I play the R 11 set at 8.5 degrees on the R9 tip. Reason being, I try to keep the ball down a little, since I am a high ball hitter. I play around with the settings from time to time, just to see if I can get a little better flight on the ball. I haven't been fitted for a driver and don't plan on it, I figure I hit the ball as well as guys half my age, and just as far, so I will take it. Quote Lefties are always in their Right Mind Link to post Share on other sites
RookieBlue7 1,677 Posted March 8, 2013 Share Posted March 8, 2013 My TxxxL Superface 2.0 v2 LCG has a marked loft of 8.5 degrees, is actually 9.1 degrees (at most recent measure) and site 3.7 degrees open (again, at last measure). It's shafted currently with a ProjectX PXv 6.0 tipped 1/2" and at 44.5" playing length. Quote In The BagDriver: TaylorMade M2 (2017) w/ Project X T1100 HZRDUS Handcrafted 65x Strong 3 wood: Taylormade M1 15* w/ ProjectX T1100 HZRDUS handcrafted 75x3 Hybrid: Adams PRO 18* w/ KBS Tour Hybrid S flex tipped 1/2"4 Hybrid: Adams PRO 20* (bent to 21*) w/ KBS Tour Hybrid S flex tipped 1/2"4-AW: TaylorMade P770 w/ Dynamic Gold Tour Issue Black Onyx S400 SW: 56* Scratch Tour Dept(CC grooves) w/ Dynamic Gold SpinnerLW: 60* Scratch Tour Department (CC grooves) w/ Dynamic Gold SpinnerXW: 64* Cally XForged Vintage w/ DG X100 8 iron tiger steppedPutter: Nike Method Prototype 006 at 34"Have a ton of back-ups in all categories, but there are always 14 clubs in the bag that differ depending on the course and set-up. Bomb and gouge. Yes, I'm a club gigolo. Link to post Share on other sites
SPY VIP GolfSpy MBP 2,279 Posted March 8, 2013 SPY VIP Share Posted March 8, 2013 Well currently 10.5, but my Covert fitting last week puts me @ 9.5. Man the best driver I ever hit was in the early 90's with a little Mizuno metal head @ 11 degrees. Quote Yo #JustPlayBetter Follow @GolfSpyMBP Link to post Share on other sites
Blade 313 Posted March 8, 2013 Share Posted March 8, 2013 Based on these numbers, supposedly 80% of all amateurs play a driver whose loft is too low for them. Yet, I'm sure if you asked most amateurs, they would tell you that the have the appropriate loft. Hell, look at me, lol Fairways & Greens 4ever I don't know. Those are launch angles, not driver lofts. Two guys with the same ball speed could end up with very different lofts and kick points in the shafts to get into the optimum window for launch angle. That chart doesn't mention the loft it takes to get there. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Kor.A.Door 5,838 Posted March 9, 2013 Share Posted March 9, 2013 Do all of these numbers matter really? If I tee the ball low it will come off at a lower launch angle Have less back spin. If I tee it hgh it will come off at a higher launch angle, and have more back spin. So is the loft on the club the issue or something else. I understand why someone who slices or hooks a golf ball regularly would want more loft, but have they tried playing around with ball position, or teeing height. Someone told me a long time ago that has stuck with me, back spin negates side spin. That's why is easier to play the 3 wood, and hybrids. Quote Lefties are always in their Right Mind Link to post Share on other sites
JSHIBONE 0 Posted March 9, 2013 Share Posted March 9, 2013 I used to play 10.5 with regular off the rack shafts for a while, which gave me a ballooning flight. Then I changed my shafts around to bring the backspin #s down. Still, I was hitting it a bit higher than I wanted to. So I traded my 10.5 head to 9.5 head (RAZR FIT). Backspin #s linger around low 2000s (2100 - 2300) and I love the low penetrating flight. I recently tried Ping I20 which I loved but in that driver, I would get myself 10.5 loft. Tried all three lofts and (with Black Tie Stiff) 9.5 was a bit lower than my likings. Back spin #s are around 2200 - 2500 rpm and it was the most "gripping" impact that I've felt in a very long time. But I wasn't ready to change my driver since I am very very confident and comfortable with what I can do with my current driver. However, I was extremely impressed with PING driver's performance. I will definitely consider putting PING on my list for next shopping spree....... in 3-4 years. I believe each driver gives off a bit different flight but for what I have (RAZR FIT, 44.75", 12g Toe, 2g hill, Square Setting, with Fujikura Motore Speeder VC 6.1 Stiff), I am very satisfied with 9.5 loft. Quote Driver: Callaway RAZR FIT 9.5 with Fujikura Motore Speeder VC 6.1 Stiff Wood: Titleist 910FD 13.5 with Aldila RIP Reg Hybrids: Ping G10 15 with TFC stiff; Titleist 910H 24 with MR Ahina Stiff Iron: Nike VR II Pro Combo 5-PW Wedges: Ping G15 54 degree, Scratch 8620 56 degree, Cleveland Tour Action 900 60 degree low bounce Putter: Odyssey ProType PT10 Ball: Bridgestone B330 or/and Titleist V1 Glove: Callaway Diablo Shoes: Adidas Powerband 3.0 Link to post Share on other sites
RoverRick 1,545 Posted March 9, 2013 Share Posted March 9, 2013 I played today with a group of guys that I have not seen in a while so everyone was checking out the other guys sticks. When one guy saw that I had a 10.5 driver he sort of laughed, like he just found out he was more manly than I was, and he proudly displayed his 8.5* driver. We get to our balls in the fairway on the first hole and he comments about how his 8.5* driver went a good 20 yards past my ball. I said yes it did, but I hit a 15.5* 3 wood. I out drove him all day because mine fits my swing, and his does not fit his swing. Quote Driver: ST190G on Fujikura ATMOS Black Fairway: ST190TS 15° on Fujikura ATMOS Black Hybrids CLK 22 & 25 (set to 20° & 23°) on Fujikura SPEEDER Irons: MP5 5-P on True Temper Dynamic Gold Wedges: MP-T5 52*, 56* & 60* on True Temper Dynamic Gold Wedge Putter: 2018 Select Newport 2 Balls: Pro V1X Shoes: Range Finder: Precision Pro NX7 Pro All grips are BestGrips Micro-Perforated Link to post Share on other sites
wbealsd 1,063 Posted March 9, 2013 Share Posted March 9, 2013 I played today with a group of guys that I have not seen in a while so everyone was checking out the other guys sticks. When one guy saw that I had a 10.5 driver he sort of laughed, like he just found out he was more manly than I was, and he proudly displayed his 8.5* driver. We get to our balls in the fairway on the first hole and he comments about how his 8.5* driver went a good 20 yards past my ball. I said yes it did, but I hit a 15.5* 3 wood. I out drove him all day because mine fits my swing, and his does not fit his swing. ROFLMAO! Quote What's In The Bag Driver Titleist 913 D2 10.5* (set to 9.75* / Neutral) 46" Paderson KINETIXX Kevlar Green - R Fairway Wood Tom Wishon 949 MC 16.5* Fujikura Speeder 569-A Hybrid Hibore 22* Aldila VS Proto Blue Irons G series 5-P Wedges Glide 54* SS / 60* TS - SCOR 53* Putter Nike Method 001 / P2 Reflex grip 35" Ball Master Grip Tour C4 Bag Datrek DG Lite Link to post Share on other sites
MattF 9,482 Posted March 9, 2013 Author Share Posted March 9, 2013 I played today with a group of guys that I have not seen in a while so everyone was checking out the other guys sticks. When one guy saw that I had a 10.5 driver he sort of laughed, like he just found out he was more manly than I was, and he proudly displayed his 8.5* driver. We get to our balls in the fairway on the first hole and he comments about how his 8.5* driver went a good 20 yards past my ball. I said yes it did, but I hit a 15.5* 3 wood. I out drove him all day because mine fits my swing, and his does not fit his swing. ROFLMAO! +1 That's great!! Quote In the bag: Driver: M5 Project X Even Flow Blue 6.0 Fairway: Sub 70 939X 15° Project X Even Flow Blue 6.0 Hybrid: CBX 119 19° hybrid Project X Even Flow Blue 6.0 Irons: D7 Forged 4-GW Project X Catalyst 80 6.0 Wedge: Smartsole S Putter Tracy Bag: Alpha Convoy 514 Balls: MTB-X or Black Cart: CaddyLite ONE Ver. 8 God Bless America, God save the Queen, God defend New Zealand and thank Christ for Australia! Link to post Share on other sites
apprenti23 604 Posted March 9, 2013 Share Posted March 9, 2013 If I tee the ball low it will come off at a lower launch angle Have less back spin. If I tee it hgh it will come off at a higher launch angle, and have more back spin. Launch angle is correct on these but I think you have the amount of spin reversed. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Kor.A.Door 5,838 Posted March 9, 2013 Share Posted March 9, 2013 Basically I just don't pay attention to the numbers. I am not saying I don't pay attention to what shaft or loft I have. What i am trying to say is that if you play a 10.5 loft and you feel like you are not getting the height you are looking for, try teeing the ball up a little higher, you don't have to change your entire setup to change your launch angle. Think of it like baseball, if you hit the bottom half of the ball, you will create more back spin, a higher launch angle and higher ball flight. If you hit the middle or top of the ball, you will create less back spin, a lower launch angle, and a lower more penetrating ball flight, I think what we all are looking for is the balance of both. You need a back spin, but you don't want it to balloon, you want to launch it lower for the penetrating ball flight. Just like a home run hitter we need the balance of both, a home run hitter must have back spin on the ball or it won't go out, but too much back spin will balloon the ball, and it becomes a lazy pop fly. It is the same in Quote Lefties are always in their Right Mind Link to post Share on other sites
JMiller 18 Posted March 9, 2013 Share Posted March 9, 2013 Based on these numbers, supposedly 80% of all amateurs play a driver whose loft is too low for them.Yet, I'm sure if you asked most amateurs, they would tell you that the have the appropriate loft.Hell, look at me, lol Fairways & Greens 4ever These are launch angles not driver lofts. The loft on the face measure at physical center will be different then 1" high or center (more loft) or 1" low of center (less loft). The face has roll to it and the amount of roll changes depending on the model / manufacture. I don't know. Those are launch angles, not driver lofts. Two guys with the same ball speed could end up with very different lofts and kick points in the shafts to get into the optimum window for launch angle. That chart doesn't mention the loft it takes to get there. Bingo, well said. Do all of these numbers matter really? Yes they actually matter a lot, someone in the 170 ball speed range at over 3000rpm of spin will balloon the ball causing them a lot of total distance. If someone with a 150 ball speed has too little spin it will knuckle ball out of the sky robbing distance. If I tee the ball low it will come off at a lower launch angle Have less back spin. If I tee it hgh it will come off at a higher launch angle, and have more back spin. So is the loft on the club the issue or something else. It goes into the vertical gear effect on a ball. Anything struck lower the then true sweet spot lunches lower with MORE spin. Anything above the true sweet spot will launch higher with LESS spin. If you are going to miss hit a shot you are probably better off being higher on the face then the true sweet spot then lower for drivers. I understand why someone who slices or hooks a golf ball regularly would want more loft, but have they tried playing around with ball position, or teeing height. Someone told me a long time ago that has stuck with me, back spin negates side spin. That's why is easier to play the 3 wood, and hybrids. Whomever told you "backspin negates spidespin" doesn't understand the physics of a golf ball. It's absolutely incorrect, there is only ONE spin on a golf ball and that is backspin. A ball curves when the spin axis is tilted left or right. Only LM list sidespin as a way to relay the spin axis tilt to the machine. Someone that slices or hooks the ball probably doesn't want more loft given that naturally more loft on the same swing speed creates more spin. I play PW, GW, SW, LW all to the same length so the swing speed should be pretty close on every club full but I get different carry and spin rates due to loft. Quote KZG VC-420 ML (10.5* Loft & 0.2* Open Face Angle) @ 44.50" (2" Bore Depth) w/ Graphite Design Tour AD DI-7 Stiff Tour Edge Exotics CB3 Tour 16.5* @ 42.50" w/ RT Technologies Zeus (85g) Stiff (Tipped 1/2") Srixon Z U45 19.0* @ 39.75" w/ KBS Tour-V X-Stiff (Soft Stepped 1x) Cleveland 588 MB 3-P @ 38.75" - 35.25" (0.25" under), 60.5* - 64.0* (0.5* upright), 22* - 48* (1* weak) w/ KBS Tour-V X-Stiff (Soft Stepped 1x) Cleveland 588 RTX 2.0 Black Satin (Blade) 54-12 @ 35.25", 64.00* w/ True Temper Dynamic Gold s400 Cleveland 588 RTX 2.0 Black Satin (Blade) 60-10 @ 35.25", 64.00* w/ True Temper Dynamic Gold s400 Lamkin UTX Wrap, Including Grip Core: 1/32 over (top hand), 1/16 over (bottom hand) Srixon Z-Star Golf Swing & Putting -- Bruce Rearick (Burnt Edges Consulting) Link to post Share on other sites
The Artful Duffer 2 Posted March 9, 2013 Share Posted March 9, 2013 Currently playing a 9.5 RBZ with Aldila Rip'd NV. Arrived at this combo through a bunch of trial and error. Not sure what the head's actual loft is but it works for my swing. I used to have(and regret selling) a Callaway Big Bertha "The Deuce" which was a solid off the tee even if it did give up a few yards but as my swing speed crept up it started to balloon on me. Quote In Nick's Ogio Edge Stand BagDriver: Taylormade Rocketballz 9.5* Aldila Rip'd NV StiffFairway: Tour Edge CB4 15* Rip Gamma StiffHybrid: Adams Idea Pro A12 18* KBS Tour XIrons: Mizuno MP-53 3-PW DG X100Wedges: Mizuno MP R-12 52* & 56* DG SpinnerPutter: Taylormade Ghost Spider Si 38" Link to post Share on other sites
Kor.A.Door 5,838 Posted March 9, 2013 Share Posted March 9, 2013 Whomever told you "backspin negates spidespin" doesn't understand the physics of a golf ball. It's absolutely incorrect, there is only ONE spin on a golf ball and that is backspin. A ball curves when the spin axis is tilted left or right. Only LM list sidespin as a way to relay the spin axis tilt to it. I believe I heard that on the Golf Channel, it was on playing lessons with the pros a few years back. I would think that a touring pro would know a little bit about the stuff. Referring to the "back spin negates spin." Quote Lefties are always in their Right Mind Link to post Share on other sites
GolfSpy Tim 55 Posted March 10, 2013 Share Posted March 10, 2013 I've been fitted for 9.5, 10.5, 11.5 and 12.5 degree drivers. I currently game both a 9.5 and a 12.5 degree driver depending upon the day and the track. I was custom fit for both of these drivers, and I hit them both within about 5 to 10 yards of each other. I game the one I'm most comfortable with that day (or I'll carry both and game the one I'm most comfortable with on the specific hole) One has a shorter shaft and I feel like I have more control and can more likely put that one in play more consistently and if the track or hole is tighter. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
silver & black 5,556 Posted March 10, 2013 Share Posted March 10, 2013 I played the first round of the year, today. I had my 913 set at 10* and used the RIP Phenom shaft. I averaged around 255 yds. I kept 11 of 12 driving holes in the fairway. Next time out I'm going to set it for 9.25 *. I also have the original RIP 60 shaft, which I love. I will try that in the next few rounds to see if I like the Phenom over it. So far, I'm really liking the Phenom. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Maverickping 186 Posted March 11, 2013 Share Posted March 11, 2013 I use a 10.5 that was fit for me via TrackMan with an R flex shaft. It gives me the best opportunity for success. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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