Mizuno MP-4 and MP-54

[Hula Rock]

Buddy just sent me a couple of pics of the new irons. MP-4's looking SWEEEEEEEET !!!!

 

MP-4

 

MP-54

[Mr_Theoo]

I saw these this morning and my jaw pretty much hit the ground. I can't wait to see these in person

[Tony Covey MGS]

I've been working the phones (and the email) trying to get some additional info from Mizuno on these. It's always tricky this time of year...the US division is trying to keep things under-wraps while Mizuno Europe is showing off everything they possibly can.

 

Even if I don't get a timely call back, I'll post something on the site today or tomorrow.

[Hula Rock]

MP4 = Pure Muscle

 

MP-54 = Step Muscle

 

At least from what I am reading so far. Spec sheets coming out in the Morning...

[Rickles]

Wow, beautiful. I really like the blades.

[furu]

I've been working the phones (and the email) trying to get some additional info from Mizuno on these. It's always tricky this time of year...the US division is trying to keep things under-wraps while Mizuno Europe is showing off everything they possibly can.

 

Even if I don't get a timely call back, I'll post something on the site today or tomorrow.

 

It's the other way around with all other brands US keeps filling up twitter, forums and FB with info while euros stay quiet.

[Super Tuna]

MP4 = Pure Muscle

 

MP-54 = Step Muscle

 

At least from what I am reading so far. Spec sheets coming out in the Morning...

 

Step muscle? There's a giant cavity the MP54's in the non scoring irons. I know that's the tech Mizzie is saying they're using, but that slot is MX300esque

[ZenGolfer]

Im in love with the MP-4s. If I could marry them and have them bear my children, I would.

[Tony Covey MGS]

Maybe I've become jaded, but sitting around waiting for additional info seems a little bit silly (and that's coming from a guy who is basically sitting around waiting for more info).

 

Here's what common sense tells us: The MP-4 is the replacement for the MP-69 (we assumed that was coming anyway). The MP-54 is the replacement for the MP-53, which we thought was coming last year when Mizuno up and surprised us with the MP-H4s instead. Cosmetic changes with a performance story built around them.

 

The real surprise (which probably shouldn't be too much of surprise given what Mizuno did last year) is that there is absolutely no indication of a replacement for the MP-59s.

 

This might be back to back anomalies, or it could single a shift to a 3 year product cycle for everything in the 50-series. Quite frankly, the 59s are beautiful and outstanding performers, so there's no pressing need to replace them. The same was true of the 53s last year.

 

The 53s are on their 3rd season now, so an update is reasonable...if only to fight the perception of an old iron on the shelves. New is better...even when it's mostly the same.

 

The MP-4...it never hurts to have a new blade on the shelf (and the 69s, while gorgeous, have some design elements I don't love). Hopefully Mizuno backs off the progressive design just a bit. The short irons are simply too bulky for where the design fits in the lineup.

 

I'm sure Mizuno will have a performance/feel story to tell, but the likelihood is there's probably nothing ground-breaking here (not much really truly is these days). Just business as usual from Mizuno, which has never proved to be a bad thing either.

[sai-jin]

From what I know, the MP68 is the last model that has classic specs, while the 69s have slightly stronger lofts and longer shaft... correct?

 

If so, would the MP4 be like the 68 or 69?

[Tony Covey MGS]

From what I know, the MP68 is the last model that has classic specs, while the 69s have slightly stronger lofts and longer shaft... correct?

 

If so, would the MP4 be like the 68 or 69?

 

That's the biggest question for me (conceding that like most, I have no business playing blades). With the 69s Mizuno went less traditional both in terms of loft and length, but also with respect to the design of the heads. I'm hoping the 4s are a little bit more old school.

[Mr_Theoo]

The m4 would look very nice in a satin finish IMO

[TWShoot67]

Those MP-4's look so damn sweet. I use to play the 14's and the 29's before I switched to Callaway Proto's and now Cobra Pro mb's. I'd sure like to give these a real run through. These MP-4's look great from the one pic.

[whiskey golf]

Both of those are great looking, especially the 4's. It looks better than the 69's, more classic.

[The Dansome]

These were literally the first photos I woke up to on Facebook this morning and I fell in love instantly.

[sai-jin]

That's the biggest question for me (conceding that like most, I have no business playing blades). With the 69s Mizuno went less traditional both in terms of loft and length, but also with respect to the design of the heads. I'm hoping the 4s are a little bit more old school.

 

I hope so too, either way, I won't be buying them until next year or 2.

Will be getting them just because they look sexy.

 

 

The m4 would look very nice in a satin finish IMO

 

 

you should see my Miura baby blades in satin, you'd love it

I think the chrome on Mizuno would look better.

[Mr_Theoo]

I've got no problem with the 1* strengthening in loft cuz my 68s are bent 2* strong. However, the only reason for a longer shaft is for distance, and the day will never, ever come where Mizuno designs an MP iron and uses the word distance in the same sentence or even in the marketing story. Distance control, yes, however distance?

 

Just out of curiosity why did you bend your 68s 2 degrees strong?

[bcgolf]

Sooooooooo pretty. I've been awaiting the arrival of the MP54 for such a long time. Last year I strayed from the Mizuno path when I changed my worn out MX25 for Ping i20's as the MP53 wasn't available anymore at that time. I wonder if the mp54 can kick the i20's out of the bag (as I'm not a club ho and I don't change for the sake of changing). I hope I fall in love with them. I'm longing for the soft feel of a forged mizuno head without inserts coupled with a nice soft feeling KBS shaft again :-)

[revkev]

These are just beautiful irons -

 

I'm having a bit of a problem keeping my Mizzies down right now and will be strenthening the lofts on them for that reason also - they bend like butter anyway - Rickles told me he had some of the lofts weakened.

 

I don't even think they market the plain 825's for distance and even though the lofts are stronger the shaft lengths aren't - there's a cool you tube video where the guy lengthens the shaft and then hits them head to head against the regular rocket bladz and the 825's are longer.

 

Just give me an iron that hits the ball the same distance every time I put a good swing on it and doesn't kill me when I'm a bit off and I'm very happy - there are several options in the Mizuno line that work in that regard.

[Mr_Theoo]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4TasMVFpL8Q

[whiskey golf]

I just realized I have one issue but it's not the iron's fault, I wish I could afford the MP-54 and possibly switch. The MP-54's look like such a nice mix between the looks of an MP but with the JPX Pro technology with the cavity back.

[bcgolf]

I know this thread is old and buried, but I'm so stoked I can't help myself.  Pulled the trigger yesterday.  Out with the never loved i20's, back to trusted Mizuno.  MP54 looks similar to my previous MX-25, so I guess I'm stepping up.  Opted for KBS Tour Regular shafts and M31 grips.  My game will probably get worse as my golfing time will be limited to 3 days a week max.  But I'm focussing on enjoyment (trying the odd shotshape here and there) rather than scoring this year.  So at least now I have a gorgeous iron to look at again every time I pull one out of the bag :-)

 

I've always hated the "unreliability" of the i20's distance wise.  I always loved the "honesty" of my MX25's, they produced what I put in, nothing more, nothing less.  So back to where it all started for me, Mizuno.  Now the wait begins until they get delivered ...

 

 

Sooooooooo pretty. I've been awaiting the arrival of the MP54 for such a long time. Last year I strayed from the Mizuno path when I changed my worn out MX25 for Ping i20's as the MP53 wasn't available anymore at that time. I wonder if the mp54 can kick the i20's out of the bag (as I'm not a club ho and I don't change for the sake of changing). I hope I fall in love with them. I'm longing for the soft feel of a forged mizuno head without inserts coupled with a nice soft feeling KBS shaft again :-)

[MarcKilgore]

You're going to love them. 

[snoopy]

I know this thread is old and buried, but I'm so stoked I can't help myself.  Pulled the trigger yesterday.  Out with the never loved i20's, back to trusted Mizuno.  MP54 looks similar to my previous MX-25, so I guess I'm stepping up.  Opted for KBS Tour Regular shafts and M31 grips.  My game will probably get worse as my golfing time will be limited to 3 days a week max.  But I'm focussing on enjoyment (trying the odd shotshape here and there) rather than scoring this year.  So at least now I have a gorgeous iron to look at again every time I pull one out of the bag :-)

 

I've always hated the "unreliability" of the i20's distance wise.  I always loved the "honesty" of my MX25's, they produced what I put in, nothing more, nothing less.  So back to where it all started for me, Mizuno.  Now the wait begins until they get delivered ...

 

congrats on the purchase!! nothing feels like a mizzy!! im still playing a set of callaway x18s from about 6 years ago and the 54's are definitely on my radar.... enjoy them!!

[bcgolf]

Thanks RPJ .. What you write goes right to the essence of it ... I have fond memories of certain shots with my MX-25, with a certain feel and joy still engrained in my brain, to which I think back regularly with a smile on my face ... I have none of those with the i20's, allthough my hcp went down with them, they are just tools ... whereas the Mizuno's seem to be something more than that to me, more than the sum or their parts, I can't explain it rationally ...

 

It's the same with my cars for me.  My previouw car I knew with my mind was probably a better car for less money than my current ride.  But still there was no love in the rationally bought car, and I had to let it go with zero regrets.  Now I love my bought with the heart car to death !

[Kor.A.Door]

its a very good thing i absolutely love the 68's, this is my second full season with them, and they seem to have better/softer feel with every round, with my back finally feeling better, i am finally able to get the distance back with them. those MP-4's look amazing, that might be my next set, nooooo, at some point you just have to say no, but i want them. as long as i dont see them in the store I should be okay

[bcgolf]

Oh I'm royally screwed.  After 4 weeks allotted time for the custom build I heard nothing from the supplier about my new MP54's.  So I started emailing.  A few days and three emails later still no reaction from them.  So l look up their phone number on their website and start calling them.  No one picks up the phone.  In the mean time contact details including phone numbers have been removed from their website.

 

I think I am screwed.  Allready put in a claim with Mastercard.  Fingers crossed I at least get my money back.

 

So no MP54's for me at the moment  :-(

 

Luckily the damned i20's aren't sold yet ...

 

 

I know this thread is old and buried, but I'm so stoked I can't help myself.  Pulled the trigger yesterday.  Out with the never loved i20's, back to trusted Mizuno.  MP54 looks similar to my previous MX-25, so I guess I'm stepping up.  Opted for KBS Tour Regular shafts and M31 grips.  My game will probably get worse as my golfing time will be limited to 3 days a week max.  But I'm focussing on enjoyment (trying the odd shotshape here and there) rather than scoring this year.  So at least now I have a gorgeous iron to look at again every time I pull one out of the bag :-)

 

I've always hated the "unreliability" of the i20's distance wise.  I always loved the "honesty" of my MX25's, they produced what I put in, nothing more, nothing less.  So back to where it all started for me, Mizuno.  Now the wait begins until they get delivered ...

[MarcKilgore]

Yikes - what a horrible story. I hope can get your money back!