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Sometimes I wonder about this. Is this the little secret that creates distance and draw? I think that many don't roll their wrists into ball contact, and that it's more of a tennis stroke, as opposed to perhaps a baseball swing.

To me, it seems that is the power source...

 

I dunno, maybe I think too much...

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Yes I do and always have That is where I get my power from and also that is how I get so much spin on short iron shots.This is according to one of my instructor friends. Some say it is "proper" and some say it aint. I don't know I really have not gave it much thought. It came up one day by someone asking how I got the distance I get at my age when I don't make a big shoulder turn and a big weight shift. my friend whome I have played golf with since 12 years old said I had always done it like that.I did not know or care I just always just hit it. I have not been a student of the golf swing until 5 years or so ago and I got to thinking too much and got too mechanical and got where I could not play a lick. I went back to just hitting it with one swing thought hit the ball.I know that when I was younger I had really fast hands and hit some really big rope hooks. I compensated by holding the club face a little open at impact and hit down on it that is where I got my trap cut from. My friends here at the beach call it the "North Charlotte Saulte'" You would have to be from the Carolinas or Charlotte area to understand that one

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Descending blow into the ball with the hands leading - do not think of rolling wrists but driving left knuckles (rh golfers) into the ground and then getting to the left thumb hitchhiker position after impact.

 

A draw has nothing to do with yor wrists- club face and path

 

Wristy swings tend to be flippers which are HUGE power drains

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It seems like you would already have a solid swing that's repeatable with a single digit handicap. Kinda surprised you're wondering about that.

 

Trying to roll the wrists through impact has to be one of the most inconsistent moves you could make. Actually timing it just right would be more of an accident than the majority of times the club gets left open or gets shut too soon.

 

This summer I've simplified my swing. It has given me more consistent center contact. My problem which is getting me to try different shafts is too much spin with my irons. My miss hits have been more draw than I wanted or sometimes a push. But I am squaring the club better than ever with a draw and LESS hand action.

 

I barely have any roll in my wrists up to the top, just what folding my right arm creates. I feel like I'm dropping the club straight down behind me and as it drops, my body swings it and squares it. The tiny bit of roll with my forearms is taken back out automatically as my right arm straightens if that makes sense. The simpler the better. The more moving parts introduced, the harder to repeat.

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I mess with my swing all the time, but I think when I'm not at the range, I go into auto pilot.

But I'm open to any concept, and not so in love with my swing that I'll never change it.

Very time I go to the range, I fiddle with different things. Most last a few minute, other get into the mix forever.

 

I think I have a little bit of wrist turn over in my normal shot, I'm just playing with it a bit more right now as I hit some balls really well the other day at the range

 

Maybe a bit of a furyk swing, close to ball, blow hips open, and snap the ball out..

I dunno, it was an easy motion, and good ball explosion.

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If it works- do it!

 

Can you imagine if Jim furyks father brought him to a pro for lessons while he was in school? Most pros would have changed his swing and we probably never would've heard of Jimmy boy unless he was your ups delivery guy!

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I mess with my swing all the time, but I think when I'm not at the range, I go into auto pilot.

But I'm open to any concept, and not so in love with my swing that I'll never change it.

Very time I go to the range, I fiddle with different things. Most last a few minute, other get into the mix forever.

 

I think I have a little bit of wrist turn over in my normal shot, I'm just playing with it a bit more right now as I hit some balls really well the other day at the range

 

Maybe a bit of a furyk swing, close to ball, blow hips open, and snap the ball out..

I dunno, it was an easy motion, and good ball explosion.

Yea, I'm firing my hips harder than ever. But it's not until the bottom half of the swing. If I get lazy about that, I get more miss hits, not to mention weaker shots. I feel like I'm not trying to control the club and it gives me control. If I were thinking about doing something with my hands or wrists, forget it.

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#1, no, it is not the power source

 

#2, a tennis stroke? A baseball swing? A power source?

 

WTF?

 

#3, not only are ya thinkin too much, you're thinkin about the wrong stuff

 

#4, you're a 5 hdcp. At this level, you shouldn't be thinkin, and especially about flippin/cockin the wists

 

#5, please reread Apprenti's first post above, especially the first paragraph and burn that image/visualization into your subconscious mind.

 

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C'mon mate, I'm not talking about flipping or cocking the wrists, I'm talking about the subtle little wrist turnover at impact...

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I think that the feeling of releasing the club head through the ball gets confused with the thought of rolling or turning the wrists over. The first is correct the second is not, just my view.

 

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I think that the feeling of releasing the club head through the ball gets confused with the thought of rolling or turning the wrists over. The first is correct the second is not, just my view.

 

AJ

 

Hmmm, maybe that's what I'm TRYING to say...

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Listen to RP. I've been working with him offline on the mental part of the game; over the last couple months he has been pounding visualization into my brain. I used to think about crap like this ALL the time and I didn't realize how much it was hurting my game. Now I clear all thoughts and just visualize each shot landing where I want it to, then just swing. RPs teachings finally sunk in a couple weeks ago and I'm at a total of -5 in my last 54 holes and that's not counting the scramble I played in where I probably shot -3 on my own ball.

 

Moral of the story, get mental, not physical.

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Thanx a lot Bro, however, what Sluggo & a lot of others reading this probably don't know is that you've got an incredibly tight, simple, grooved swing and great touch & feel when you let yourself go, not to mention a swing speed north of 116-118mph on an average swing, LMAO :)

 

Ya can't teach/coach that, haha

 

 

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Ss of 118? Now that's just not fair!

 

My problem is that I've always been a very natural at games like baseball , golf, bowling, whatever... But never got dedicated to really give a anything 100%. So every time I go to the range, some weird new thought enters the brain and off I go with that. But when I an on the course, none of those things happen, and I go back to auto-pilot. It has taken me 4 months to slightly alter my swing after lessons.

 

So, maybe I'll quit posting all these weird things that enter my head and just read more, speak less...

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But, nah, I'm off to the range to work on my new wrist cocking/flipping swing :P

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But, nah, I'm off to the range to work on my new wrist cocking/flipping swing :P

 

Practice makes perfect lol

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Well, what silly thing that worked the other day took the midnite train to Georgia.

Thank goodness autopilot stayed home...

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Ive experimented with it and IMO, its difficult to be consistent that way because everything happens in a split second and you are trying to rely on precise timing every time, which most of us dont have the ability to do on a regular basis.

Ive always struggled with hitting a push and Ive found that staying connected and firing my hips does much more to fix than problem that turning over the wrists ever did.

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We sound very similar, Sluggo. I actually stopped going to the range, because I would try different things with my swing, even when I was playing well. If I can't play, I'll just go and chip/putt.

 

I think it's a disease...

Being just coordinated enough to make something work for a day. Then the next day, it's gone...

But if it was easy....

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"Turn them over" isn't really the best use of words, but that is how it was described to me by my teacher when I first started taking lessons and for me at that time it was an effective way for me to visualize what I was doing wrong, which was not releasing the club, which as you know can have all kinds of bad effects!

 

As far as a source of power. . .I don't think of the wrists as such. Power is generated in the legs and the core, then transmitted through the shoulders, arms and wrists. For me now, the only real thoughts I have about my wrists are proper position at 9:00 on the takeaway (I have a tendency to want to lay them off too much and get too flat at the top) and most importantly being relaxed in the forearms and hands, so I'm moreso wanting to keep forearm/wrist/hand tension out of my swing than really trying to get them to do anything.

 

To fully deliver the power generated by the legs/core, the wrists have to be relaxed and "turning over" or as I more prefer to think about it "rolling through" the swing, but really, if you are relaxed and on plane through the swing and not allowing arm and hand tension to interfere, the wrists will do what they are supposed to do.

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