W.J Bosley

The ProVison-a1 ball in Gel White had the Blue markings,,,,, I forgot I had included you in on my trial,,, here is the Super Yellow v1.01 ,,,, What about these new Forktee's....really handy with the International SpeedGolf group,,,

It would be good to hear from more MG Golf C4 users ,,,,, that would be an interesting comparison I would like to see.

Why isn't there more players testing the C4 version balls,,,I think they feel a bit softer than the Costco balls,,,,and do the same thing? Wouldn't it make sense to test Costco vs these seeing these are supplied by a golf company that did break the mould in regards to pricing for premium spin balls and could do with some support intead of a really large corporation that has received an obscene amount of free media when the only real story was they were " US$4.95 cheaper than MG per dozen!" Costco being 4 piece is not an advantage ,,,, Titleist for 16 years have said they can do everything they want in ball design within the rules of the game with a twin thin cover - 3 piece design ,,,,, 4/5/6 pieces are there to pump up your tyres and the price ,,, in general terms plus it is always harder to make consistent 4/5/6 piece designs where the layers are thin versions ,,, the cross linking / lamination process of each layer is challenging,,,,

This is how the 2017 "ProVision-a1 " - FlexiGel U (TPU) Cover White and PInky should look ,,,, Ball markings? not sure yet.

Hi PM,,, no not yet that was to dial in the whitness I am wanting to achieve,,, the urethane version that glows will only be arriving for my testing next week,, I hope! What i have liked to understand this past week was that Costco will probably just run the one painted white ball,,,,, and as you know that doesn't really excite me in any case,,,, once you go really bright its hard to go back.

2016 Pinky + UVEE Prototypes,,,,

Hi Foz,,, I'm working with my team on a UVEE PINKY version for mid 2017,,,,, like this but playable in daylight and with feel,,,,,,let me look for the prototype images,,

This is one of the reasons the Costco was cheaper to make as the normal cast process is slower and as such more expensive ,,,like this Titleist cover being poured here ,,, Costco is a TPU injected approach and they feel and sound different,,,, what is the difference worth to a retail amateur player ,,,, not as much as it used to.

Talking to Nassau they have gone quickly from having spare production capacity to being maxed out but they are going to also increase their production ability in 2017 ,,, approx 100,000 dozen a month is going to Costco (info from a Korean market source)

Do you think they will drop the Callaway and Titleist (HVC or HP model I thought?) lines they have been selling?

I would think this new Costco ball and the others to follow will absolutely flatten the used/lake and more importantly refinished golf ball companies ,,,,, Costco will probably add a good quality 2 piece or 3 piece Surlyn model for 2 dozen at $19.95 next,,,,,,, Why play used ,,,,, they wont even be worth fishing out of the dams,,,, in Australia we have described this type of cheap retail pricing over the past 8 years by many ball companies as supplying balls at a cost that the recreational players dont care about losing them any more,,, they buy balls to lose which used to be used ones now its new ones and you will find more balls today in the rough around a course than ever,,,, players don't even bother to look too hard for a ProV1 if it's 9 or 18 holes old,,, they just reload and get going.

Last year when I took my father to visit some of the ball companies in Korea during the Presidents Cup the Grand Hyatt at Incheon was using the Genesis for their hotel limo service ,,,, I was impressed and yes youare right some people just want to buy the prestige and believe the marketing without any questions ,,,, They support certain brands like they support their favorite football team, with a heart felt passion ,,,

Probably but for more + shipping or on Ebay ,,, here's the thing Costco knew there would be a potential large take up of this product BUT you would have to join their membership group and pay for it to get the best deals,,,, they make as much money from memberships as they do from sales so their reason for smashing the price is a bit clearer when they have two possible income streams from this exercise ,,,,, Smart marketing plus $100,000's of free media attention to drive it. Will they ever advertise within the golf industry media ,,, I doubt it they will probably just do the token social media stuff that everyone shares for free,,,,,

Hi OH, I see a group of the boys have now moved over ,,, thanks for the kind words 2016 has been exciting and now interesting. Great question ,,,,, Dick's / Golf Galaxy did a smart thing a while ago they bought the Maxfli brand for in house use and then added the Top-Flite / Strata brand ,,,,, they had seen what you could do by having legitimate golf brands with long term heritage ( both had gone broke mind you) so players would TRUST these products without much advertising or promotion that they sold under these brand names as being consistent with their well known heritage and as such perhaps for more money than if they were in fact a house brand. It must have stopped working a few years ago as we all know Dick's has been reducing their golf foot print in the past 18 months with the exception of buying GolfSmith who went bankrupt this year,,,, I believe we are finally in the position that the illusions of game improving product technology whilst being limited by the USGA and R&A rules of design is finally being somewhat understood by many more players than ever before,,,,, so when there is no real gains to be bought or stories to be told price starts to become the main way to market and US$15.00 may not be the end of it,,, Where I'm at today is different ,,, I have seen this coming especially since Dean Snell left TM and was able to start up in balls straight away and at a price ,,, I am working on very different styles and presentations of balls that do help but in general may play like something you already know or like as that is very likely seeing there are in fact too many good balls in the market today. Titleist ,,,, like Coca Cola may be in for a tough time when people start to stop and think more about why they pay a higher price for a particular ball / soft drink and perhaps move past the Tour Validated Promotion of golf products approach and stop drinking the cool aid because as we all know the price you pay for the big brands is higher mainly in order to pay for all that extra promotion so you will feel better about your brand association on course at your club and the TRUST level that it gives you as a player. Costco have shown that there could be many changes coming soon and its not just limited to golf balls,,,,, The internet and sites like MGS will give players enough info to make an educated choice,,,,

Hi PJ,,, the latest MGC4 ball is probably very close but not from the same plant,,, do you mind posting where they are made ,, it should be some where on the latest MG ball packs as the 332 dimple may be a US factory? but I would not have thought so. The MG balls were the beginning of all this as they got to buy a premium performance ball without having to do the expense of developing one,,,,, I still don't know for sure why they did not have the same free media as the Kirkland,,, they were less the half the price and played fine. Cheers, Boz