Our very diverse foursome plays all over southern Ontario (from Pickering to Barrie, Hamilton and Niagara Falls). All courses are either public or semi private and we don't mind it if the tee is a bit chewed up. However if the tees are sloping too much we have our fastest player step in and "move" the tee area to a flat spot!! I know blah, blah whatever but we are recreational golfers with 12 to 15 handicaps and don't need to add those kind of challenges to our fun time.