Two of us can play our favorite course in Phoenix in under 3 1/2 hours when the course isn't busy. When busy (spring), it sometimes takes 5 to 5 1/2 hours. This is unacceptable! it's no fun, and you lose your rhythm and concentration. Cause -- poor course management/scheduling, and golfers playing from the wrong tees. Too many golfers walk, dragging their knuckles, to the back tee box and hit their drive off the fairway into the desert. After a couple of holes, they're minimally a hole behind the group in front of them.