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So sorry for your loss. The death of a family member and especially your mother is never easy. My deepest sympathies and condolences to you and your family.

Love this combination. Cappuccino colour much better looking in person with nice simple, elegant alignment. So now the selection process is complete. We have a red, orange, black, green, cappuccino and two blues and a wide variety of alignment aids. 5 standard and 2 counterbalanced builds. On a separate note, the folks at L.A.B. have been simply outstanding to deal with. From Calvin and the other fitters, to their straight forward online fitting process and overall help and input have been greatly appreciated by us all. So thank you L.A.B.

A good morning to all on an overcast rainy day. Hopefully, I can get some range/practice time in, but enjoying my morning espresso in the meantime. For those who are interested in the L.A.B. DF3, we are trying something new and featuring a weekly recap and highlights for testing of the DF3. If you're interested in a quick recap of the weeks results see the link below. Please let us know your thoughts if you find this helpful or how we could improve the experience for you. Have a great day, everyone.

You mean you can't use this for "medicinal" purposes or as birdie juice? Welcome to the forum and the good morning thread. You will find there are a great group of passionate people here. Welcome to the forum and the good morning thread to a fellow Canadian. You will find there are a great group of passionate people here. @GolfSpy_KFT happy birthday to your son. May you and the family enjoy the day.

Chris, stroke of genius recording your fitting call with Calvin and addressing many of the fitting questions with the LAB that many of us have. Well done and thoroughly enjoyed this.

Thanks Josh. Appreciate that coming from you.

Great question. Originally, I was going to upgrade to the Accra, but then we got word that all shaft options were open. So for me the dilemma was do I go for the tried and true Stability shaft which I have been using for 5+ years or the TPT. The game changer was when I had the opportunity to pre test a L.A.B. DF3 with the TPT shaft and pistol group. I was impressed with the responsive feel, and how smooth and balanced the putter felt. I then consulted with L.A.B. and upon their testing they found the TPT to be an ultra stiff, very low torque high premium putter shaft that provides instant and clear feedback. The Stability was also an ultra stiff, very low torque shaft, but with a slightly softer feel. Hmmm, more thought. So based on this and pre test, I chose the TPT. It also then provided me the ability to test the L.A.B./TPT combination against my comparator/Stability combination on putter fitting with Quintic. I’m particularly interested on the impact on the face angle results using Quintic. Either way, I can’t really go wrong, as both are excellent putter shafts, but we will see what testing shows.

And the best pictures and funnies of the week

DF3 Weekley review - Highlights of week 1 Trying something new. Welcome to the Weekly DF3 review and recap highlighting the best posts, pictures and findings for the week. If this is helpful and you like this content, please let me know your thoughts. What Is L.A.B.? @GolfSpy_APH L.A.B. stands for Lie Angle Balance. These putters, unlike other putters, are not toe-hang or face balanced. They are balanced to point at the target, meaning no twisting, no struggling to keep the face directed at the target—the putter does this naturally. As each golfer is unique in their putting stance and stroke, the fitting process for L.A.B. is crucial. L.A.B. has made this easy by way of their online submission. A simple step-by-step process is sent to L.A.B. and they use this video to dial in your specifications. L.A.B. is best known for their big and unique-looking DF 2.1, a putter that has many nicknames and certainly does not appeal to all golfers. This is where the DF3 comes in. Please welcome and congratulate our testers! @GolfSpy_BEN This is a fantastic group of testers! I, and the entire forum, will be following along. Without further ado… Now the fun begins @sirchunksalot To me, this is the most intriguing test of the year and I'm looking forward to seeing what y'all think. @ShimmyCocoBop It would be interesting to know what the percentage of brooms vs. regular length putters are sold by LAB? Superb and excellent introductions by all the testers. Testers: 4 standard putters, 2 counterbalanced and the @GolfSpy SAM special Overall impressions – a great deal of interest in the L.AB. putters, and the technology behind it, Some scepticism regarding looks and price. @GolfSpy_APH - be happy you are not in the PM channel - Its Cobra challenge bad. Especially after the surprise I dropped them today. @Cfhandyman If we don't knock it out of the park, there will be hell to pay. But seriously, we want to make this fun, informative and answer all questions people have. This is a very intriguing putter and test. Be prepared to see some great putter combinations. @jbern We have all submitted online fitting videos, which is the most common way for LAB to fit putters. It was also SUPER easy to make a 3-5 second video of your putting stroke with a door pane behind you. One of the testers, @MattWillGolf, has received the fitting results back from LAB's fitter via email. I have so many color/alignment options that I'm thinking through that I don't think I want to inundate the thread with all the screenshots! @steve2526 Does anyone else see a goldfish cracker when looking at the DF 3 in orange? I'm a huge Df 2.1 fan. Best putter ever... @TJ Hall Anyone feeling overwhelmed by the shear number of possibilities here??? @GolfSpy SAM Two years in, my 2.1 is still kicking ass - THRILLED to see what this group experiences with the 3.0 (and yes, I'm a little jealous, but that's normal when a new kid is born into the family - the big bro gets a little jealous @Jim Shaw "can you open a stubby with one" @Cfhandyman Send in your video to L.A.B. and they will use their video fitting software to analyze your stroke and calculate your ideal length and lie angle. They will then send you an email confirming your specifications. https://labgolf.com/pages/remote-fitting @CFreddie Since I've never been officially fit for a putter, I focused first on determining eye dominance, and concluded that I'm left eye dominant (as a righty). Here is a simple test if you need to determine eye dominance - https://www.diyphotography.net/a-neat-trick-to-determine-your-dominant-eye/. @CFreddie What's most important to you with respect to putting? What matters to you and what do you look for? @Cfhandyman When, I look at my data for putting, the first thing I look at it the total number of putts and then how many were: a) One putt, b) Two putt, c) Three putts or worse Below is Arccos data looking at total putts broken down by 1, 2 or 3 or more putts by handicap. The higher handicaps 3 putt or worse far more than a scratch or low handicap golfer. Correspondingly, the low handicap golfer makes far more one putts. So one of the key metrics for me is reducing the number of 3 putts and increase the number of one putts. So according to Arccos, the 0 handicap makes on average 32.1 putts per round of which 5.2 holes were one putt, 11.5 holes are 2 putts and 1.3 holes were 3 putt. See below. Another way of looking it is for the 0 Hcp: One putts - 16.2%, Two putts - 71.6%, and three putts - 12.2% @jbern For me, stats wise, the most important stat is # of 3 putts. If I'm 3 putting the rest of the stats fall apart also. When it comes to the act of putting, the most important thing to me is speed. If my speed is on, confidence goes up, green reading seems to be better and it leads to more tap-ins and made putts. @jbern If I want to lower my handicap, I'll need to improve my putting. This data is a good baseline and it's pretty nice to see it visually on a graph and compare to a statistical giant like Arccos. @Steve F Markers set at 3', 5', 7' and 10'. I didn't do 10' last time, but figure I should add that especially since the 1 putt on 12 was from 19'. You certainly wouldn't know it by the practice session beyond 7'!! @CFreddie I'd agree with your ranking @Cfhandyman, (TPT>Stability>Accra>Steel) although I've never hit a Stability in a LAB. Having hit the others though, there is definitely a distinctive "feel" characteristic across the shaft options. For the stock steel, you get a muted but firm feel, which is the opposite of the Accra, which has a distinctive soft / almost "whip-like" feel to it (I could see how some people love the Accra, while others don't). The TPT was the best in my eyes (hence the high $) - you get very direct feedback on the hit, while feeling incredibly stabile in your hands. On a standard length putter, these aren't as pronounced, but I'd imagine in a Broomstick (with a much longer shaft), these are much more obvious. @downlowkey there’s an Easter Egg on L.A.B. Golf’s Meet DF3 page, that explains how you can even _combine_ multiple alignment aid options. @Steve F Thanks. And here, I was thinking simple black the entire way.... We potentially can mix them? If so, you're onto something there @jbern, I'm digging the EE and Z combo! @MattWillGolf My mockup for today. I am also leaning towards the heavier version as my ER11v is on the heavier side. But that will be part of the discussion with the fitter. @GolfSpy MPR Interesting timing for us testers on this MGS blog article: https://mygolfspy.com/news-opinion/first-look/should-you-switch-to-a-counterbalanced-putter/ I know that, unless the fitter at L.A.B. actively disuades me, my intention right now is to go counterbalanced. The Edel I'm using is, I suspect, at the extreme of weighting. I do not have (unfortunately) have a swing weight scale, but just compare these numbers of two of my putters, both 34": Put in some practice this morning in what might be the best-equipped putter studio in Michigan's Upper Peninsula: my basement. @TSauer I've watch a couple of videos on L.A.B.'s build process and I'm pretty sure every single putter goes through the revealer and the grip is a big part of the balancing act that the revealer... reveals. So I think if you wanted to use a grip that isn't from L.A.B. you would have to send it to them so they can install it during their club construction and balancing process. @Rob Person For me, the amount of time you take to learn The putters characteristics , the more benefit you will gain on the green. This goes not just in golf, but with anything. @cnosil Just remember, the ball pretty much goes where the face points at impact. You don't need to force putter rotation or a putter arc...You stand pretty close to the ball so there won't be a lot. With the DF3, they will tell you very light grip pressure and basically just move the putter back and forward. Line of the Week @ole gray This is going to be more fun watching than Uncle Rufus hunting for his upper plate after the state finals apple bobbing contest at the county fair! @GolfSpy MPR If we actually meet this expectation, we should all get special forum badges with an apple and a set of dentures. @Steve F ... and the hits just keep coming! Have been messing with my Golf Pad tracking app, finally figured out how to mark the pin.... so now I should be getting some better data! Apparently a trick that I wasn't aware of that now I am! Will be able to test it tomorrow night during League Play! This is panning out AWESOME!!! @Steve F VERY psyched! Got the email from L.A.B. golf last night, and I definitely have questions! Hopefully hear back from them today so I can discuss the options and their recommendations! And last but not least: @GolfSpy SAM A very happy birthday present to me - I've already told the testers, but figured I'd share here, too. Due to some VERY unforeseen (and happy) circumstances, I'll be joining in on the fun (not as an official tester by any means, but more as a happy co-participant). This was ordered yesterday (white Accra shaft, white pistol grip). To say I'm excited is a VAST understatement.

Good morning to all on a sunny but still cool Friday morning. A little more yard work and range time is the plan for today. L.A.B. DF3 putter ordered and in the production queue. Can’t wait to get it and start testing it. Have a wonderful day and weekend.

This is sweet and well done. From a self described can you measure it and data junkie

I also received the confirmation email of my order that its in the production queue. Yipee. Now its hurry up and wait Me "patiently" waiting

Speaking of putter head covers and having some fun here, What would you prefer L.A.B. Pimento and cheese The L.A.B. Rat The lab monkey or Taz

A good morning to all on a lovely sunny morning. Enjoying my morning espresso catching up on the pages of threads. @GolfSpy_APH wasn’t kidding when he said a big testing opportunity was coming up. Will they set a record for sign ups? Will the servers keep up? Moving a little slowly this morning. Where’s that tin man oil when you need it.

I’m absolutely loving this choice and alignment mark. Very nice build. Great choices. Now enjoy your vacation.

Great suggestion, but you mean my love/hate relationship with the Leafs? They have to beat Boston first in the playoffs. I’m more partial to

Date 04/25/2024 Course Name Lowville Gross Score 76 Course Handicap 5 Gross Strokes over/under par 5 Net Score to Par 0 Net Score 71 Net Birdies or better Longest Drive Course handicap, 68.6, slope 121, par 71. Longest drive 246 yards with 1 birdie. My current Golf Canada handicap index is 6.8 A scrambling round. Driver not very good, but short game and putter saved my bacon numerous times. 32 putts with 5 one putts and 12 two putts.

I’m loving the Beast, beauty and the beast and to give you added resolve. Shaken, not stirred.

I’m loving the idea of naming our putters. So far we have orange, red, black, blue and green. I have this blue beauty So I need help and input on what we should name this bad boy. So far, I’ve come up with the following: Blue Devil, big blue, blue thunder, Excalibur and gimme the blues. What do people think or what would you suggest? I’m open to suggestion.

Enjoy your trip and the sunshine.

A good morning to all on a coolish overcast morning. Waiting for the morning coffee to kick in as I catch up on the various threads. Looking forward to playing a round later this morning. Hopefully, some parts of the game show up. @CSiders12 so sorry for your loss. Deepest sympathies to you and your family.

1. With the forward press grips what is the average loft of the lab putter at impact 2. If he can share, how does L.A.B. go about the process of balancing their putters. I.e What’s involved in the balancing of L.A.B. Putters 3. If you need or want to switch or replace a grip, can it be done at a local pro golf shop or does it have to be taken to an authorized dealer to ensure balance is correct?

Nice little review on putter alignment aids from Ping. Basically, they found that their research indicates when a player perceives they can line up their putter easily, they usually have better performance. https://ping.com/en-us/blogs/proving-grounds/putter-alignment

Great head cover. Team DF3 putter covers? That’s great news. I asked the fitters about using other (non L.A.B) grips. I was told it was possible, but you would need to send the putter grip to them so they could install and balance properly. They wouldn't recommend switching the grip on your own after you get a putter from them because that could definitely throw off the balance. Also, I’m 6’2” and most of my putters have been 35”

Once we found it we could combine alignment marks, the design firm of @jbern Inc. went into overdrive and started creating mock-ups for us to view prior to ordering. I've always like the T line (simple, elegant and functional) but I kept getting drawn back to the uniqueness of the arrow/ pointer. When you combine the two, your eyes do really focus on one spot. Hat's off to L.A.B. for allowing you to be creative. + =