FightingScot82

The Get Sum is a 2-piece ball. 2 piece balls are essentially just a price point ball. I think why so many golfers of certain generations became bump & run short game players was because so many played 2 piece balls that have low spin. Its a myth that skill determines ball type. Its really budget and needs. If you want to increase distance, you usually need to go harder. If you want to be able to stop the ball with spin or work the ball flight, you'll need a 3 piece ball. A 3 piece ball will get you the performance you want but 3 piece balls cost more. If you're a low spin driver looking for the lowest possible cost, its Kirkland. If you're not a Costco member or need lower spin, you're better off with TaylorMade Tour Response or Maxfli Tour S. Both are about $40/dozen but the Maxfli you can regularly buy in bulk around $120 for 4 dozen.

I think you may need a detailed evaluation using a launch monitor that compares the two. I recently did a $25 PXG fitting to compare my TM irons and see what I need. Obviously their recommendations were based on PXG models but it helped me see where my swing fits in the traditional irons model lineup. FWIW, I subscribe to the camp that believes 90% of golfers should be playing Game Improvement irons or very forgiving polymer-filled irons.

I'm not aware of a DTC brand that manufactures their own balls - and the only OEMs I know of producing their own balls is TaylorMade and Titleist. The only balls I know of made in the USA are *most* Titleist. Nearly all golf balls are made in two separate plants in Taiwan. @Tony Covey MGS may be able to provide more accurate info.

I was able to get some fitting specs from a PXG fitting I did - the guys at Sub 70 said to share with them and they'd give me a personalized recommendation. That's great customer service.

My fitting was great. I was worried about judgment from the fitter because I don't play or practice nearly enough to get consistent ball striking, but was quickly eradicated. I was fit for the 0311 XP but was told with practice the 0311 P would suit me long term. The sticker price is more than I want to spend so I may hold out for a sale or see if I can take these measurements to a well-versed fitter for something more in line with my budget. I did enjoy the PXG clubs - if I had the money I would have pulled the trigger on the spot. Take advantage of the $25 fitting deal if you can.

When Dicks Sporting Goods first went national, Knight was their bottom rung clubs. There was a driving range near my house that had lots of clubs called Bird or Byrd.

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As suggested, customer service is first class. Can't wait to try these!

For $120, they send you the 6 and 9 irons of the model of your choice. You send back to them (with prepaid label) within 10 days and they refund $100. So I got the 6 and 9 irons of the 699 with a stiff steel shaft. It doesn't say which shaft.

Thanks. My preference is to go with Sub 70 and sharing with them what I got from the PXG fitting to build an ideal set. If I do like PXG enough, I'd consider them. Its just that most of their models are beyond my current skill and budget.

Sub 70 699 demos get delivered tomorrow. I'm excited to try these.

Most of their balls have a matte finish, which doesn't fly in Pennsylvania. Too wet most of the year either from morning dew or rain. IIRC, their tour level ball available in white S4 had almost as much spin as a K Sig. I have to suspect that's why Bubba dropped them so quickly.

Just like other clubs, there's a lot of brand prestige and posturing involved with a Scotty - just like Odyssey was decades ago or what Vokeys have in the wedge world. Too many golfers buy a Scotty to project an image that they're a better golfer, that they're a serious golfer, or that they have money to blow on something like a putter. I think the greatest value added by My Golf Spy to the golf consumer is breaking down the myths of certain balls and putters. Are Scottys great putters? Yeah. They're well-made with quality components. They're also generally accessible at the local golf shop. But as testing on MGS can attest - they don't make you putt any different. In fact, there are routinely better performers at half the price by Cleveland, Tommy Armour, and Wilson Staff. Its not that they're overpriced - but the price doesn't get the average golfer anything better. I think you'd also see more tour players crossing over equipment contracts to use them if that were true. Get fit for a putter to make sure you have the correct head shape and shaft for your putting stroke and go from there. If you think a $450 Scotty is better for you than a $200 Cleveland HB, then go for it.

I took advantage of the PXG $25 fitting deal and have one scheduled with a local shop next week. Does anyone know if they'll "give" me anything to take away in case I choose to buy elsewhere? I've never been fitted before so I'm not sure how universal their fitting process will be like length, lie, shaft model, etc. recommendations.