NGage

I'm definitely a combination of The Craftsman and The Chess Player.

Manavs, that was a little mis-communication about the Carnation Inst Breakfast. I wasn't clear. When I said "they said it was good at wake-up and after workout" I was referring to the Nectar Whey Protein Isolate -- not the Inst Breakfast. No one suggested the Inst Breakfast mix....that's just something I already had, and I added the vanilla flavored Nectar to it (since the Inst Brkfst was also vanilla flavored). I'm not a big breakfast eater, and the Inst Brkfst is just something I can easily drink in the morning when I get up. I'm just using up what's already here. As for Vitamin Shoppe, that's where I got the stuff I got (they're the ones that talked me out of the Amino Vital Pro grape and into the Xtend.....and yes, it does taste terrible. I'm taking it back tomorrow and getting the Amino Vital. I was there Fri night, and the guy said they didn't carry the Chain'd Out but that he'd heard of it.

Manavs, On the Chain'd Out.....you linked the apple flavor and I saw they also had the berry/banana. Are they both good tasting? I think I'd normally lean more toward the berry/banana flavor over the apple if it's good. What's your opinion on the stuff I've gotten so far?

Yeah.....thanks for all the info -- good stuff. I'm gonna order some of the stuff you listed from a1supplements, but in the meantime I've picked up some of this: For now -- for breakfast -- I'm mixing it with some Carnation Instant Breakfast (vanilla flavor) and skim milk. I have 8oz of milk with it, and something like a bunch of blackberries. They say it's good for wake up time, and immediately after work out....so I figured I'd do that till I got the stuff you recommended. http://www.drugstore.com/qxp55622_333181_sespider_1_1/nestle_carnation/instant_breakfast_essentials_powder_classic_french_vanilla_classic_french_vanilla.htm I also bought some of this in the meantime, http://www.vitaminshoppe.com/store/en/browse/sku_detail.jsp?id=S2-1003 but I'm gonna take it back tomorrow and exchange it for some Amino Vital Pro (grape flavored). The AV tastes better than the Xtend.

So you mix it all with water, all in one big drink? Or, you mix it all with water individually? I would think you could get some funny tastes -- you know, mixing the various flavors. But on the other hand, that'd be a lot of water to drink if you mix them each individually. So which is it? Lots of smaller individual mixes? Or, one big mish-mash? And why two separate shaker cups?

Again....thanks a bunch for the info, I'm working on getting it all together. One other question: with all the pre- and post- workout stuff -- do you take them all separately or do you mix all the pre- stuff together in something and drink all at once, and mix all the post- stuff together and drink it all together? If you are mixing them....do you mix them in water, milk, or something else?

Ok....just now this makes three threads, IIRC, that you've bragged about this .......just hit them, and sell them as a used PUD set already. LOL

BTW, has anyone moved those two new Adams CB1's and CB2's to the list? They really need to be on the list, as well as maybe the Cleveland CG7 Tour Black Pearls. JMHO YMMV

That's just gonna vary from person to person based on personal preferences.....just no way to really answer that. However, there are forged offerings that run the gambit from true blades to even mid-size GI sets. You really just gotta decide what you want.

Those do look good...and would look so much better without the "TOUR BLADE" on it. JMHO YMMV

While a bit heavy-handed, the sentiments are dead on. Clones, unlike components, are practically like stealing from the OEM's. JMHO YMMV

None of that surprises me....basic human nature, and just how the world works.

Thanks....like an idiot, I'll take those pics to the store and look for those in person.

I make a "W" between the name and number with the letter kinda floating or balancing on the number.....kinda like it's resting on the number.

I'd be interested to see a real comparison between the two. At this point, all I got to say about clones is run....run far, far away from them.