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Larger diameter = less spin. At least that was the selling point of the old Top Flite Magna.

When the Stimp meter was first invented in the 60's, the USGA sent a team to measure the green speeds at a number of top courses such as Augusta National, Winged Foot, Oakmont, etc. IIRC, the fastest greens were at Oakmont and they measured at 9 or 10. Augusta measured at a 7. If you have a good stroke, putts are easier to make on fast greens -- although that rule has limits. For instance, I'm guessing a Stimp reading of 20 would truly be impossible. On the subject of putting a premium on accuracy, growing long rough is not going to do it at the highest levels. When I'm in long rough, I am lucky to hit the ball 10 yards back into the fairway. That is not an issue for tour players. I'm beginning to think the only way to award accuracy on tour is to plant a whole lot of trees very close to the fairways.

Watching B.A.D. win the Open by bombing it reminded me of this thread. Some thoughts: Long hitters have always had an advantage (Snead, Nicklaus, Woods, etc), but I wonder if it is now impossible to grow rough that is thick and tall enough to punish the long hitters without causing the average hitters to shoot a gazillion over par. The players are so strong and the difference in spin of the modern ball from the rough and fairway being less than with wound balls, rough seems to have much less effect on the outcome of a shot. I am one of those who would like to see pros hitting mid irons into par 4s but those days are gone for good, unless someone has enough land for 600 yard par 4s and 700 yard par 5s. Of course, par is an artificial construct but the rules of golf define par as the score an expert player would be expected to make on a hole allowing for 2 putts. On one of the par 5s today, Bryson and Wolff both hit wedge for their second shots. How is that a par 5? Are we on the way path to the USGA labeling Oakmount as a par 67 for the Open? All of this applies only to the pro game. But if the pro game becomes strictly bomb and gouge, then for some of us, it would be only a little more interesting than long drive contests.

Thanks! Did you find them to be true to the mid launch, mid spin description?

Thanks cnosil. Anyone out there who has played them?

Looking for info on the Mitsubishi MMT iron shafts. Launch, spin, etc. Thanks

If the bounce is causing problems, you might try strengthening the lofts of the wedges a degree or 2. That will also lower the bounce. Given the 5 degree gaps in the 9-W-GW, this might work. Of course, it may mess up your gapping with your sand wedge. I've had a couple of sets of irons (not pxg) that went 39, 43 and 48 in the 9 through the gap and haven't had any problems with the gapping between the GW and my 54 degree sand wedge.

I'm pretty sure that hitting an iron 270 yards is illegal.

Looks great

Good point on the ball. I tend to hit my irons with low spin and play the spinniest balls I can find.

I'll take the Project x even flow. Sending PM.

Well done giving them to your buddy

Not familiar with them. No reason you can't be the first the write a review!

I’m pretty sure Brandt Snedeker plays Steelfibers in his irons. Like everyone has said, lots of good options out there.