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I certainly understand wanting an iron that looks good to your eye. Maybe train yourself to look at the ball instead of the clubhead? Your post seems to indicate that you think the HMBs have jacked lofts, but the lofts are the same as those in the MMCs, with a 46 degree pw and a 32 degree 7 iron. By modern standards those aren't that strong. I just picked up my new HMBs yesterday and am very pleased. I've only hit one bucket of balls with them, but the only thing I would change is to make the profile slightly smaller in the mid irons, BUT that would probably have a negative impact on forgiveness and they seem very forgiving so far. And I really like the feel and sound. Good luck in your hunt!

I suggest having Golfworks put together a couple of 7 irons for you in the heads you are considering. I bought a set of TS-2's based on finding the TT Elevate shafts to be a great fit for me in the Callaway Apex 19's. Thought I could get the performance of the Elevates without paying OEM rates. Sadly, I was wrong. I don't find the TS-2's to be very forgiving despite their high MPF rating. And, I really don't care for the look of the short irons. And, the sole wants to bounce on the turf. So, spend the money to try before you buy is my advice.

Feel free to send offers if my price is too high.

I just ordered Mizuno MP20 HMBs. I hit all the new MPs, the JPX919 Forged, and the Hot Metals. I also hit the Ping G410s and the Titleist T100, T200 and T300. The 4 forged Mizunos felt the best to me. The MP 20 muscle back wasn't forgiving enough for my skill level. The MMC, HMB and 919 Forged were pretty much the same on good swings with the MMC sounding and feeling worse on bad swings. I like the look of the HMBs more than the 919s, so I went with them.

Sorry, kind of hidden between pics -- $560 shipped and paypal'd in the CONUS

I have been using this one: https://www.amazon.com/Liner-Drawing-Marking-Alignment-Putting/dp/B072JJRQV6/ref=sr_1_2_sspa?crid=1Z24C94FASEZ3&keywords=golf+ball+line+marker+tool&qid=1568670021&s=gateway&sprefix=golf+ball+li%2Caps%2C190&sr=8-2-spons&psc=1&smid=A3E71SM1EF78RB&spLa=ZW5jcnlwdGVkUXVhbGlmaWVyPUEyMkpIOEVGQUJFM0o4JmVuY3J5cHRlZElkPUEwMTcxNDA5Mk1JRzVLTUZWWkVCQyZlbmNyeXB0ZWRBZElkPUEwNzcxOTI4MjVPODgzODhKSzNVQiZ3aWRnZXROYW1lPXNwX2F0ZiZhY3Rpb249Y2xpY2tSZWRpcmVjdCZkb05vdExvZ0NsaWNrPXRydWU= It's made a huge, positive difference in my putting. I also use the lines to line up tee shots.

Set of 718 AP1s 6 thru 53 degree wedge with Tensei regular flex graphite. I ordered these from Titleist one inch longer than standard with standard loft and lie. Heads are in good shape with normal wear from a year of use. Mid-size New Decade grips in excellent condition. The 9 iron has a discoloration in the cavity. Either a very thin piece of black plastic came off or the finish is discolored-- can't tell which. You can see it in the pic. $560/ offers $560 shipped and paypal'd in the CONUS.

Yes, but they are one to two degrees weak compared to most current GI and SGI sets on the market. For instance, my Titleist 718 AP1s have a 30 degree 7 iron. The new Titleist T300s have a 29 degree 7 iron, which is 2 clubs stronger than my Ping Eye 2s.

I hit all 3 of the MP 20 models yesterday. They all felt and sounded wonderful. I was surprised that the HMB sounded so good given its hollow design. The MMC and HMB were giving me my regular distances even though they are 2 degrees weaker than my current irons. The MP 20s gave me the numbers I would expect from a traditionally lofted blade.

Odd that the web site has no specs for the irons.

I'd take the 145 every time. What I would really like is the ability to hit irons much higher than I do now, but that is a swing issue.

Clay/Mississippi Hcp: 11 Titleist 718 AP1 and Maltby TS-2 7 iron carry: 140-145 yds

I signed up, but based on the above, it seems like something I want nothing to do with.

The one that worked best for me was a Ping i15 u wedge. I ordered the iron set bent 2 degrees strong so the U wedge was 48 degrees. I think the lower bounce from bending it strong was part of the reason I liked it so much. I could hit it high or low, draw it or fade it. It worked well from different lies. The real mystery is why I got rid of it. Just the usual club hoing stupidity, I guess.