DanieldR

You are not reading my posts, nor the one you are referencing, that well . 1. I never said anything about a draw or a fade HAVING to be hit with either a ascending or descending blow. I use terms like often and generally A LOT, because I am talking about what happens most often, not about "rules" in this case. I also used terms like LESS descending and even mention "or more ascending". I even, in my post before that, literally say that a fade can be hit with an upward angle of attack. 2. The post you are referencing talks to in-to-out vs out-to-in, not about angle of attack, which are very very different things. 3. The post you are referencing doesn't talk about a reference point: body or target line. A fade (which starts left of TARGET and ends on it) with an inside out swing compared to your body line is possible (if you just aim left with your body, which is actually what I do myself). A fade with an inside out swing compared to the target like is physically impossible, unless you have found a way around laws of physics

Those draws often, but not always, roll out more because they often have less total spin as the extent of backspin (or the absolute vertical component of total spin if you want to nitpick) is smaller. This is because the strike for a draw is generally, but again not always, less descending or more ascending than for a comparable fade (swing). https://mygolfspy.com/labs/mygolfspy-labs-draws-vs-fades/ This doesnt mean that for any individual it can't be the case that a fade rolls out the same amount or even more (which is why I keep using words as often and not always). My fades and draws have similar roll-outs as, for me, their (back)spin numbers are similar. But this is not what happens most often. Hitting a fade with an in-to-out swing (when looking at the target line at least) is physically impossible. A (push) slice on the other hand...

I use 46,50,54 and 58 degree Taylormade SM3 wedges with standard bounce for all. I use all of them for all shots depending on what makes sense to me at the moment (what bounce do I want for the lie, what height do I want to hit it with how much roll-out). While I hit bunker shots with all of these (and even a 9-iron on larger distances), mostly use the 54 and 58 there. For flop shots I mostly use the 58 degree. I try and avoid making swings as full as I will with my irons (with the occasional exception)

I think so many players can improve really quickly by ensuring strong set-up fundamentals and through good course management. Everyone can ensure they are aimed at their target with a good grip and posture. In terms of course management, use (your) shot dispersion to pick smart targets, don't use a 3 wood for a second shot if you can't reach the green anyway, etc. I have had my struggles with both, but if you work on these when they're off, results follow quickly! These two alone will not get you to single figures, but they can have a massive impact!

From what I've been able to understand: All golf shots (maybe with the exception of putts) have backspin, with more backspin resulting in less roll-out. Draws and fades are generated through sidespin. "All other things equal" therefore results in the same roll-out for a draw and a fade. In reality however, fades often have less roll-out due to the fact that fade spin is often accompanied by (more) backspin, which is in turn due to fade swings often having a more descending blow compared to draw swings. But this doesn't have to be the case, a drive with a 2 yard fade that was hit upward will have more roll-out than a drive with a 2 yard draw hit downward (all other things equal )

Current swings: Recently been in love with Jake Knapp's swing. His tempo and rhythm are beautiful and the speeds he generates, ooph! Ludvig Aberg, Jason Day, Adam Scott, Louis Oosthuizen and Tommy Fleetwood have brilliant swings. Underrated swing: Harris English! Older swings: Rory's swing from a few years ago was spectacular (don't really care for his recent swing). Have to mention the Tiger slam swing and of course Ernie Els en Freddie are up there. First post of this thread mentioned Robert Rock, great call! And do we all remember Charl Schwartzel, another SA beauty? Absolute favourite, if I have to: Louis, technically near perfection and that rhythm, hot damn!

I know them from their blades, never knew about the driver, will have to Google that! And didn't the founder (pun intended) go on to start TaylorMade?

Anyone remember founders clubs? Don't think I've seen them mentioned. Had some tour presence as well!

Just picked up four new wedges, was able to get a good deal on a couple of TM SM3's. Picked up the 46, 50, 54, 58 set, with the first two in the chrome and the second two in the black satin finish. They look and feel awesome and generate a ton of spin compared to my oldies. Now all that is missing is the technique around the greens !

Hi everyone, I'm Daniel, a passionate 33-year-old golfer from the Netherlands and new to the forum. Golf has been a major part of my life for as long as I can remember, starting with watching my dad hit shots out in front of my childhood home. At the age of 10, my dad first took me to the course, and upon hitting my first shot (a worm-burner that finished within two feet) I was obviously hooked. After playing on various courses throughout the country and in the US as part of an NCAA third division college team for a year, I can now call myself a scratch golfer (hcp 0.0 at the time of writing, hoping it never changes) and a member of the Royal Hague, one of the most beautiful courses in the Netherlands. Golf around here is great as there is a strong community of excellent players, even if the weather doesn't always allow us to enjoy the game fully. The golf course is where I have made some of and spend time with my best friends, satisfies my love of the outdoors and competition, and allows me to fully let loose the researcher within me, being a scientist by background (now working as a consultant). Over the past few years, I have turned to MyGolfSpy for everything golf equipment-related and figured it was time to join the community. I'm excited to be a part of this forum, sharing stories, tips, and experiences with fellow golf enthusiasts from around the world. Looking forward to engaging with you all and learning from your experiences on and off the course! With kind regards, Daniel