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  1. thomapa1

    Snell MTB-X

    Played Reds last year, have a few rounds under my belt with MTB-X As others have said, MTB-X is a better all around ball than the Red was. Best parts of the MTB-X = Long off driver, noticeably for me (on a great hit, any premium ball will get out there...but I am finding great distances more often with MTB-X) I find the MTB-X is still very spinny off of scoring clubs, which I like. I compared vs Bridgestone Tour BX and XS - no comparison, MTB-X checks up much better. I feel I can carry more to my intended target - a good feeling of confidence. As spinny as Red? maybe not, but it is not far off. Putting - oddest thing for me, at first it felt to firm and clicky off the putter...but after using it for awhile this does not bother me. In fact I find that I am getting the ball to or past the hole more often. Past soft balls seemed to routinely come up short for me.
  2. Aliens...must be Aliens.
  3. Just played a round with Bridgestone Tour B X. Prior, I played Snell Red last season (lots of spin, suspect in wind or off driver at times) and was testing MTB-x and Black. Prior to that, Chrome Soft. During 'off' season time, I admit that I play a wide variety of found balls, but usually all in the premium category. I am a 6-9 handicapper, 95mph driver SS, solid all around game. I don't care so much about ball costs. First, I would echo the previous posters comment about the firm feeling of the Snell MTB-X, not as noticeable on woods, irons, but yes on the putter. After a round or two with it - I actually preferred that feel (had preferred a softer ball in the past) off the putter...it felt 'brighter', found that I had less 'dead' putts. I was ready to make MTB-X my ball for this season. Anyhow - the Bridgestone Tour B X. Wow. It did everything very well, found no weaknesses. The most noticeable thing for me was how incredibly well the ball held its line. Slight push/pull is on me, but the ball still (noticeably better than past balls I have played) held its line very well. I hit more dead straight ropes than I had in a long time, more frequent 'as long as I hit drives' in a long time. Overall distance off driver or other clubs was what I would expect (not getting everyone's +10 yards). VS my past balls, I felt that I got slightly more height off of good drivers and longer iron shots. Balls checked up predictably as my good approaches normally hit and go forward 3"-12". Felt fine off the putter. When I putted the MTB-X vs the Tour BX back to back - I did prefer the MTB-X feel, the Bridgestone felt heavier. But playing a normal round, not doing a back to back test - the Tour BX felt fine. Your mileage may vary, but the straightness of the Tour BX really impressed me and it does everything else very very well. May try the Tour BXS for kicks - but I am converting to Bridgestone. Would have never tried them if not for the MGS test results. And I am done playing found balls (except in the winter)
  4. The end result is that we now have another excuse for hitting a ball into the woods....or being 8 yards offline on a 7 iron shot. "My ball has to be irregular"
  5. Great...I was pretty well sold on stocking up on Snell MTB-X...now I should really test Bridgestone Tour BX. ProV1 as a solid catch all if I get frustrated. It figures that the longest is also the most offline - can't have everything I guess! Not so concerned about a driver being 4 yards offline when most of the competition may be about 2 yards off....more concerning that a 7 iron is a similar offline distance to driver...that's getting a bit more significant for me. Nice stats!
  6. Loaded question. Some people can hit a 45"+ driver consistently in the center. Most would benefit by getting to 44.5" or so. My last few fitters said consistently that 44.5" is about the max people should play for consistency. With that said, I got an F8+ at 44.5" and absolutely loved it. Hit the F9 vs my F8+ on a launch monitor, same exact shaft and got increased ball speeds (just a few mph which was equating to about +5 ish yards) but the more surprising was the consistency of strike and dispersion vs the F8+....and the F8+ was really really good during my 6 months with it. Just had a few range sessions with the F9 but I would say that it is incrementally better than the F8+ (for me) and was worth the cost to upgrade. I felt that feeling the head during the swing was more vague in the F8+ vs the F9, even though actual head weight totals were identical. My son hits the F8+ and has much higher swing/ball speeds (in the 160+ ball speed area) - 44.5" for him as well. He nuts it.
  7. thomapa1


    Got fitted for an F8+ late last year. After a number of rounds, it is a tremendous driver. Last time out I hit a few shots either low or high-toe - they should not have gone anywhere...but ended up with better than expected distance. Like for like perfect hits, prolly not much difference among most of the tier1 drivers...but the forgiveness factor really really impressed me. I ordered my F8+ at 44.5" then replaced the 2g weight with an 8g weight to get swingweight back up. I have an F9 on the way as well, more curious than anything else as to how it performs vs the F8+. For my relatively low swing speed, I likely won't see much benefit - but we'll see.
  8. Congrats! sounds like a positive experience. I cannot believe more people do not do some kind of fitting to see evidence vs buying something they 'think' may fit them off the rack. Of course people will now say 'I know my swing - I don't need to get fit'. I tried hitting what I thought were similar profile shafts in my existing driver, that I as fit for last year. Was not convinced it was perfect. Differences were significant (like 10-15-20 yards difference due to shaft, flex, head weight configuration...but also to dispersion and feel). Ended up reversing the head weights to get a little more spin and adding more head weight. Why leave distance and accuracy on the table?
  9. Went to PGA Superstore and did a driver fitting to tweak my F8+. Was fit mid last year but was not 100% sold on my setup. After trying a few different lofts and different shafts, turns out that I needed more headweight in my F8+ as I ordered my club at 44.5" and did not have heavier weight in the head. My complaint would be that I did not feel the head much, shaft felt boardy. They did not have any heavier weights for the F8 so I tried an F9 head which had additional weight chips to try (same exact shaft as in my F8+). The combo felt awesome, it was what I was missing, more clubhead weight/feel. The F9 shots I took were all great ballflight, distance, dispersion (for me) whereas other combos needed a few throwaway shots or had poor dispersion, worse numbers. Probably not worth $400 just to get an F9 head so I'll just order more weight for my F8+ head and that should get me as good or close enough to the F9 combo. Shaft is an Aldila Rogue Silver 70 stiff at 44.5" long Numbers below The best combo in my current F8+ driver (9.5 degree, 12g back+2g front) SwingSpeed = 93.9 Ball Speed = 132.3 Backspin = 2033 Carry = 227 Total = 253 The F9 head with my shaft (9 degree, I believe 18g back and 6g front) SwingSpeed = 94.8 Ball Speed = 136.5 Backspin = 2253 Carry = 236 Total = 259
  10. Ugggh...I got an F8+ at the end of last season...Probably not worth the cost, but posts like this make me want to buy/try the F9.
  11. Paul / GA, USA Nike Rain Pants + FJ short sleeve 1/4 zip top Jekyll Island 2016, annual golf week with family members...Waited all year for the event, first day the skies opened and wind cranked up. We still played and it became one of the more memorable days.
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