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The one thing I would caution of getting it off Ebay is that you won't have full access to all of the training videos that show you how to properly use the planemate.

It definitely looks like they stepped up their game from the prior generation! Really good to see!

Same! Honestly I kept checking the "Official Forum Member Reviews" section, but wasn't seeing a new thread for any of the testing. I figured there were just shipping/back-order issues to where none of the testing has started yet.

If your initial feedback on the iron heads is good, what about just doing a shaft swamp on your current iron shafts? That way you can get a better feel for things.

Thanks for throwing this link in! I was just about to do that! Interesting watching they've already had a Chrome Soft X go way left. Also, Tony mentioned something that during the wedge test, they had issues with Trackman not picking up the TM balls unless they turned the logo around. Curious how that affects other simulators.

I work the ball both ways...not saying it's intentional but it goes OB left and OB right

I think the thing that's most important to me is balancing out the muscles you're not using in the swing. That doesn't mean do not dominate swings, but maybe doing workouts that focuses on the muscles not being used. For example, if I do a lot of bicep lifts, I want to ensure that I have triceps in there as well to balance out my arm. For me personally, balancing has been huge. My trainer does Muscle Activation Techniques to tell the body not to compensate for inactive muscles. It has done wonders for me! I would agree with the articles saying that pros don't need to do non-dominate swings to offset their 5 million dominate swings they make per day. If you look though, every pro now has a personal trainer, and I would bet that trainer is hitting the same muscles used in the non-dominate swing in the gym.

I'm seriously over here drooling over these copper irons! (I don't need new irons....I don't need new irons!)

I agree! My trainer does Muscle Activation Techniques and her main thing is trying to get the body back in balance. I hear chiropractors and other professionals always talk about countering what we do the most throughout the day. The best example of that is "Tech Neck." We stare down at our phones all day, so the chiropractor has us doing adjustments and exercises focusing on correcting our spine that's now curved downwards.

I've stayed away from the red band just because my fear is that I'll focus too much on 1 side of my body. Does the protocols talk about swinging the other way (left handed for right handed ppl and vice versa) to balance everything out since this is basically a workout?

The buddy I was testing for has hit the T20s quite a bit before that's why I didn't include them, but for myself I definitely want to include them! I've also heard really good things about the Cobra Snake Bites. Unfortunately the PGA SS didn't have any demos yet.

I completely agree! I would be very hard pressed to buy a wedge off of just an indoor session. The main things for me with indoor sessions, when I'm actually looking at wedges, is how does the club feel, what do 3/4 - full shots do, and leading edge. Some examples would be if I catch it a bit heavy, how much grab does it have, or if I open the face, what does that look like on a flat lie. A lot of the courses I play have very tight areas around the greens and our bunkers are like concrete, so that is why I feel in love with my XLOW. I like to think of this as round 1 to narrow down wedges to try outside. Round 2 would be an outdoor demo day with the company, or something to try in a short game area of a range. Final round would be a par 3 course that I go to a lot. Their front 9 really allows me to hit all different shots to small greens.

Sure thing! The side spin and offline for my 80 yard shots are: TM: 418L - 3.0L Ping Glide: 326L - 2.3L Ping Forged: 222L - 0.2L Mizuno: 104R - 1.6R I definitely didn't mind the Glide Forged at all! I definitely wouldn't do it as my lob wedge but as a gap or sand wedge, it would be a very strong contender. If I did the SW, I'd like to see if I could get some grind work on it to help with opening up the face just a bit. I know Ping is AMAZING when it comes to customizations. They just don't advertise it for some reason.

Ping Glides have always been super solid! I love the extra coating on them for wet conditions! I had some before I did the RTX 4 testing in 2019. Now you can't rip the XLOW out of my bag. It's gonna be a very sad day when those grooves go out.

The peak height is in yards. Those are actually very standard numbers for me and a 56 degree wedge. Below is some data from Trackman regarding PGA Tour averages from 2019. My driver club head speed is actually above the tour average at 117 mph. I just went through a driver fitting last week, so you can use those numbers as a gage for my numbers. I also put in the LPGA averages as well.

There's definitely a market for this type of club! Cleveland has an extremely similar one with their "Smart Sole." Basically just make a standard putting stroke and away you go! Everything would be square face shot.

Hey fellow Spies!! Yesterday a buddy wanted some initial thoughts on some wedges, other than Vokey and Callaway, while I at the PGA SS, so I thought I'd share my findings! I did a 50 yard pitch shot and an 80 yard shot. All of the wedges were 56 degrees. I tested the following wedges using my TP5 golf balls: Mizuno ES21 Taylormade Milled Grind 2 Ping Forged Ping Glide 3.0 Here's each of the averages! Thoughts: 50 Yard Test All of the spin rates and everything were very close Mizuno ES won't win any beauty contest by any means looking at the back of the club Mizuno was actually my favorite to hit The feel was great The turf interactions was amazing Ping Glide had a very noticeable click Taylormade felt the softest in this test 80 Yard Test Taylormade was EXTREMELY inconsistent I would hit what I thought would be the same swing and would get very different spin rates and distances Took FOREVER to get a good sample size around 80 yards Ping Forged has a very shape leading edge I noticed that if I hit just a tiny bit behind the ball, it would dig very easily Mizuno was amazing again Favorite wedge to hit by far Ping Glide was solid Felt good, but the click was still there Final: If you are looking for a new wedge, definitely look at Mizuno! It was extremely easy to hit, great spin numbers, and once you set up, you can't see how big the back really is on it. I did go mess around with the 60 degree wedge because I loved the 56 so much, but this is where I noticed the one major downside. This wedge for me would definitely need some grind work done on it. You do not have the ability to open the face due to a wider sole. As soon as you do, the leading edge comes up even on the 6 degree bounce wedge. The wedge is also priced at $200, so be prepared to pay. I was very shocked about Taylormade. I asked a few of the fitters there and they said they have been experiencing the same thing with that wedge. On longer shots, the distance control just isn't there. I'm not sure if it has something to do with the raw face or not, but that is very concerning to me. If I were to rank the wedges it would be: Mizuno Ping Glide Ping Forged Taylormade (Would NOT buy) Let me know if you guys agree/disagree!

I know a few of you mentioned it in your final review, but how is all of your paint jobs holding up? I remember the first gen of these, that was a major concern.

I just went through a driver fitting with a good friend, who's a tour van fitter, Wednesday and had him evaluate the 3 wood while I was warming up. His only negative comment was the amount of offset on the club. When I asked him who he thought would be a perfect fit for this club and he mentioned exactly what you just said! "A person who has a slower swing speed, most likely plays a regular/senior flex, that needs help generating spin." I've got a few people I know that have this issue so I was going to have them give it a rip! I have a feeling it will have the exact same outcome as yours!

If you want to do it mid-season, I would take a week or 2 off of playing to complete the protocols. It's going to feel completely different for a good while. I absolutely love it though! This being my 2nd session with it, I've seen immediate improvement!

Had just enough internet to get my picks in while I'm on vacation!! Best of luck everyone!!

You're definitely not alone! I've been using mine for about a year and still struggle doing full swings at normal speed. Like @B.Boston mentioned, I typically stick to 3/4 swings.

Hey everyone! I apologize for being MIA for the past few months! I was dealing with a lot of personal things. I was finally able to start getting things in order and updated the on-course analysis for the 3 wood. The on-course performance matched the launch monitors perfectly. I did have my playing partners give it a rip as well. They kept seeing the same type of performance as me.

The advanced protocols are where everything really started to click for me! I did well in the 7-day, but light bulbs in the advanced. After the protocols, I used it on the range before every round. It just allowed me to get that feel early, so my body knew what to do on the course. I didn't have to feel like I was "searching" for my swing on the range. I just followed the warm-up in the "Protocol Series."

I still have my 3 wood, but it's sitting on the sideline right now. I'm trying to get my swing back after not swing at all over the off-season. I'm going to bring it with me once I'm on the course to finish up the review for the on-course portion and will update my scores. I keep having some others hit it and I haven't found anyone that uses current clubs (any 3 wood within the past 3 years) that has said they would game it.