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Asking for advice on what to get is going to lead to a bunch of different clubs, shafts, etc and they would be no better than you guessing what to get her yourself. Go get her a fitting with a good fitter. Let the fitter choose what’s best so that she doesn’t develop bad habits trying to make a club work.

Unfortunately you don’t know if those were the actual loft you were hitting or if what you received were the exact same loft as the demo heads. Manufacturer tolerances are upwards of 1.5° +/- of the stated lifts. Ignore the flex on the shafts because there are no standards for flex in the industry so in reality they could have been similar flex. Weight and the profile of the shaft are more important to pay attention to. When looking at distance you need to look at carry distance rather than total. Monitors tend to over estimate total for certain numbers, but it’s all a guess by the monitor and it could even be tweaked to play firm and allow for more roll out. Some people don’t swing the same in a fitting as they do on the course and end up with a bad fit because their golf course swing is different than how they were swinging at the fitting. Some swing harder or faster, some don’t like being watched and so on As mentioned above if you liked the setup on the course you will more than likely end up with a driver loft different than what you are demoing.

No line. I like a clean look on the ball when I putt. I aim the putter to my intermediate target

I would never get fit at golftec, I would avoid indoor fittings unless it was a with a reputable fitter such as the guys at txg, TruSpec or someone I’ve worked with in the past. I prefer to see ball flight so it will always be outdoor default for any fittings I do. I don’t mind doing them off a mat or with a rubber tee(some of my best fittings have been this way).

If you getting holes in gloves especially the palm it’s your grip and not the gloves

And that’s probably why they changed the policy. Abuse of the system and the cost to the company catches the eye of the higher ups. Companies are going to protect the bottom line.

The first guy did he tell you why he went with 1” short and 2° upright? did he change shafts, heads and or adjust length at all? Btw lie board is a terrible way to determine lie angle. What was the reason the second guy said you needed longer and “standard”? Did he change heads, shafts and/or length? What was the reasoning the third guy said you needed longer. Did he make any shaft or length changes?

These posts are conflicting. Sounds like you have had e fittings, and all 3 used some kind of actually data for the fitting and not just 2 fitters doing static measurements and no swinging or collecting data. So if the there were 3 fittings which of the 2 refer to the statements in the OP about the different recommendations? And if 2 of these are those it gets back to was it purely just measurement to choose length and lie then you hit balls with those specs or was it something else?

Have a stock shot and use it all the time. The number of pros on your who move the ball both ways is 5. But I agree with the tip @cnosil got. Get a good instructor and build your game and don’t chase this tip and that tip. It leads to rabbit holes, frustration and longer time to undo the bad

That’s not a fitting. It’s a starting point for where to start with length, then thru swinging a club the fitter makes adjustments. Most fitters don’t use any measurements and let ball flight and swing determine what to adjust. I like to use @Golfspy_CG2 as a good example why static measurements aren’t that great. He’s 6’7” and during a titleist fitting was fit to titleists standard length and the fitter considered going 1/4” short. If you asked anyone what length he should be in you would get anywhere from 1-2” longer. Long story short you got two bad fittings. If you actually want to get fit find a reputable fitter that has you hit balls and uses things like the sharpie lie angle test

Without handicaps any type mod match play or for the most part stroke play will be hard to effectively divide up teams and the better players not getting help. Modified stableford is usually a good one but you can’t figure out to figure out how many points one needs to be even.

But why did they think that. That’s the key in knowing if the first was bad fit or not. But also the results from each. If in the first fitting you got the results you wanted it wasn’t a bad fit. Some will complain that the on course performance doesn’t match what happened in the fitting, that typically not all the time comes from golfer not swinging the way they do in the course, whether that’s not comfortable hitting in front of people, not comfortable hitting inside or they swing harder than they do in the course. Lots of things to consider before saying anything is good or bad or one is better. but as cnosil points out with his solution you could just go with that

Yes you have some data, but as I talked about in my recent replies which were to address a specific comment about using ballnomic, they numbers aren’t accurate enough to put in the tool to get a ball recommendation and could result in a bad choice of ball. Using the irons as an example 2° difference in launch and 2000 or more extra spin could be bad for you on the course where the numbers on the monitor look good. And the testing on the course based on what you see is important but because the numbers have the significant difference you could be eliminating balls that will work for balls that won’t based on these skewed numbers

First there is no standard lie and 2° is only relevant to the club being hit, another club it could be 1° up as an example. So when talking about lie between two different clubs you need to compare the actual lie angles. So the first fitter, why did he put you in 1” shorter and 2° up? This had to be done to address something in contact point or your swing to help make better contact. why did the new fitter feel that was wrong and have you in a club 1” longer (which btw there is also no standard for in the industry to include how clubs are actually measured). There has to be something he saw in your swing or again with contact that made him go with a different setup. what clubs were you fit into by the each fitter? Keep in mind each fitter has their own philosophy for how to optimize ball flight. I know fitters who won’t change lie angle and use length to improve contact and others who default to lie angle. So it’s possible both are correct in what they fit you to

Its an approach imo for those who aren’t trying to play theIr best and ensure that the one thing that is used on every shot is the best for them. It’s what can be referred to as mediocre mentality. This is where most amateurs go wrong. They play different balls, not only different manufactures but different designs. They don’t pick a ball and stick with it then fit the top end of the bag to it. Once you have that dialed in then testing other balls is a nice change of pace to see what else is out there. It’s how I test balls. I have my bag setup that’s fits from green to tee. Testing will then tell me if something new on the market is better than what I have. But if it causes me to have to change a club to make It work better then it’s not worth switching balls. some tour level balls perform equally across the board for me spefically tp5 and 5x compared to the prov1 and 1x. I can swap those balls with no issues with any club. Other balls work great with irons and not wedges or driver and some great off the tee but not great with irons and wedges. but all anything that gets tested is done on the course in regular playing conditions. I can visually see what’s going on as well as where the ball ends up off the tee compared to my gamer as well has how they react with shots into the green and around the green While I haven’t seen what he does or what he uses, I wouldn’t be surprised if due to the availability of clubs he has a driver setup for each different ball design. Also going to guess that his skill level allows him to adjust pretty quickly to different balls and clubs like most good golfers which isn’t something that’s common among mid and high handicaps edit: Another thing to point out is trackman indoors reads low as well and rct balls will give more accurate results, so even the driver numbers are going to be inaccurate from this session. Not to mention as I pointed out in a previous post the last calibration of the device is unknown. Too many negative variables for it to be an accurate fitting and to have those numbers plugged into any tool for ball or club recommendation

While the driver numbers will be more accurate the best way to approach things is for the driver to the ball and not the ball to the driver. So while he could get a ball that fits his driver it clubs be a disaster for the rest of his game.

They will be lower and could be significantly lower, the type of mat plays a role too in the difference between mar vs grass. The numbers could provide a bad recommendation because spin is going to be lower off mats for iron and wedges and launch is going to be higher. Both won’t be just a little, there will be 2-3° higher launch and could be up to 2000 or more lower spin off mats.

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Don’t want to always sound negative I’m this thread but that would be a yes and no. What appears to work in that environment may not on the course and what doesn’t work in the test may work on the course. Again it’s great to do that test in a controlled environment to compare numbers because you are getting the same lie over and over, but imo that’s all it does.

Keep in mind that spin rates off a mat are going to be less than it will be from grass. This is why for me testing balls on a range or at a store isnt my preferred choice. Its good for comparing numbers side by side but true performance is best tested on grass

Strokes gained shows closer to the hole even in the rough is better then be further back in the fairway. DJ has said in some YouTube interviews he’s looking for 3 yards from new driver. just saying

Forgot to mention with the thought of slowing down the transition think of getting the left hip back or at least not firing the right one as early. I’ve seen Monte recommend keeping the right foot planted.

I have some similar tendencies in my swing that end up with similar compensations you are making. I don’t get the hips rotated or I max out rotation early and end up firing the hip and getting steep similar to you. Our compensations are typical of the better player whereas higher handicaps will have the tendency to get ott. Like you when everything is working it’s great and when it’s not then we are in for a long day of trying to figure out where the ball is going off the tee.

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