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The durability will be in for the long haul, my old Odyssey is like new and is 17 or 18yrs old. 

I've been following on twitter for quite a while, I have Instagram but I don't spend much time there. I will look to add MGS to my Instagram.

In a nutshell, basically helps you square the clubface for straighter shots.

GolfSpy_APH,
I don't mind an offset, doesn't really bother me, I prefer a very minimal offset compared to some irons that when you look down at setup you see a huge gap between ball, hosel and clubface. Kind of like a kids toy set.
My Mizuno's irons have an average offset of 3.5mm. 

Great information, Thank you!

The durability will be in for the long haul, my old Odyssey is like new and is 17 or 18yrs old. 

I wonder if the milled titanium face would have been a better choice for me vs the urethane?  I may have to look into trying that one out 🤔

Great information, Thank you!

The durability will be in for the long haul, my old Odyssey is like new and is 17 or 18yrs old. 

Looking into the inserts themselves,  it appears they are the same perimeter shape, except for a little tab on the back of the milled insert.  There are differences in the backside contours of each as well. This leads me to believe that like the white-hot inserts, these will be able to be swapped. Another difference is the milled is a 1 piece insert, whereas the other is a 2 piece bonded laminated face. 

 
As for the weights . Odyssey promised availability in December,  however the site only lists them for certain lines of putters. These weights appear to be compatible with a few of the AI models, however without contacting them directly,  I don't truly know.  The weights range from 5g to 20g, sold in pairs, with a torx tool included from $40-80

I've been following on twitter for quite a while, I have Instagram but I don't spend much time there. I will look to add MGS to my Instagram.

Following on both IG and twitter, though admittedly I don’t spend much time on either platform. 

Here is an article I found related to non-conforming irons/grooves going back to 2010 that is informative.
This link is to locate information for your specific club from the USGA -  https://www.usga.org/InfoClubsDB/Search.aspx
The article-
Check your gear! These clubs will be nonconforming on January 1 
BY: RYAN BARATH  DECEMBER 27, 2023
Many wedges featuring pre-2010 grooves will become non-conforming in 2024.
RYAN BARATH
With so much discussion around the proposed rule change to the golf ball, many golfers have forgotten about another rule announcement made over a decade ago that is finally coming to fruition as of January 1, 2024, involving groove conformity for clubs that predate 2010 — meaning you could be carrying some illegal clubs.
As a refresher, the 2010 groove rule, which it is informally referred to, initially went into effect on January 1, 2010, and was adopted as a Condition of Competition — now called the Model Local Rule G-2, for the PGA Tour and LPGA Tour, along with the men’s, women’s, and seniors’ U.S. Opens, and all qualifying stages for these events. 
Then on January 1, 2014, model local rule G-2 became effective at all USGA championship events, but left all recreational golfers alone for another decade. This rule dictates the radius and volume of golf club groves and applies to any irons, wedges, hybrids, and even fairway woods with lofts of 25 degrees or more. 
Under the new rules any wedges that predate 2010 are nonconforming for handicap purposes. RYAN BARATH
Now as the calendar turns over to January 1, 2024, the 2010 groove rule will go into effect for all golfers wishing to keep a proper handicap and potentially play in club competitions that use USGA/R&A guidelines.
For every shot, every lie, every course, there’s a grind fit for your swing. Finding the right grind to match your swing and playing conditions will give you the best turf interaction, contact and shot performance. Master Craftsman Bob Vokey has spent decades crafting, developing and improving his tour proven grinds to fit players of all levels. Anyone can manufacture a wedge, but it takes a master to turn a piece of high-performance technology into an instrument of creative control. Bob’s six tour-proven grinds are designed to offer maximum creativity, versatility and consistency, all meticulously developed through years of working with the best players in the world. PROGRESSIVE CENTER OF GRAVITY SM9 features a progressive center of gravity (CG) throughout the lofts, which optimizes ball flight, accuracy and forgiveness. Using tapered top lines and varied hosel lengths, the Vokey R&D team has raised the height of the CG in the higher lofts, which promotes a lower, more controlled flight. The CG is also forward of the face, resulting in increased MOI, exceptional feel and a club face that simply wants to square up at impact. SPIN MILLED GROOVES SM9’s patented Spin Milled grooves are meticulously engineered through a new cutting process to maximize spin and durability. The process starts by cutting the face perfectly flat with a high-speed saw. Then every groove is individually cut based on loft and finish; low lofts (46°-54°) are designed with narrower, deeper grooves, while higher lofts (56°-62°) have wider, shallower grooves. Micro-grooves are individually cut in between grooves, which maximize spin on partial shots. A proprietary heat treatment is applied to the impact area which doubles the durability of the groove without impacting feel, making it the most durable groove in golf. The process is only complete when every Vokey wedge is 100% inspected for utmost quality and performance.
What does this mean?
If we are being blunt, for most golfers who don’t keep a handicap and only play recreationally, this is more water under the proverbial bridge of silly golf rules that don’t apply to them, like stroke and distance for out-of-bounds, a one-ball rule, and gimmes inside of 2 feet. 
6 ways your golf gear could be illegal (without you even knowing it!)
As for golfers who take the game a bit more seriously and hope that their playing partners do too: If you are using any clubs that predate 2010 — especially wedges — there is a really good chance you’ve already lost a lot of performance, and it’s probably worth an upgrade anyway. But even if that is the case, there is a chance that a competitor could have you disqualified for using a non-conforming club.
So, if you happen to have some rules sticklers at your club or in your regular foursome when playing for a few bucks, you can check your grooves here with the help of the USGA golf club database to make sure that when you tee it up in 2024, you’re playing by the rules fair and square.

Odyssey AI#1 Heel putting test.
Rolled plenty of putts over the past 2 days testing off center HEEL putts from the Odyssey AI#1 putter, Odyssey Divine Line and Scotty Cameron.
The test conducted from 18ft on the patio carpet, rolls similar to the greens at the country club. The patio is mostly level, some small right to left break and smooth where testing took place.
·         Odyssey AI#1 – I have to say this putter continues to amaze me and make me a believer. Heel putts were effortless coming off the face, sound was soft and the distance control was very reliable compared to the other putters, no worries about hitting it harder to get it to the hole. The AI#1 kept the ball online, how a gear affect would bring the ball online with off center hits. The roll off the heel did not skid as much compared to the other putters from what I could tell, the ball started rolling end over end quicker and definitely rolled out further. Ball speed was consistent on all putts. Dispersion and accuracy were better, compared to the other putters in this test. My feeling of the counter balance of the AI#1 putter helped stabilize my hands allowing my stroke to release of the putter and assist keeping the putt online.
·         Odyssey Divine Line, believe it or not this OLD putter I concluded that it out-performed the Scotty, the heel putts felt not as jagged and the sound was louder but felt almost as soft as the AI#1. Distance control was a little shorter than the AI#1.
·         Scotty Cameron Select Squareback 1.5, heel putts felt almost like hitting a rock with a stick, the sound and feel were off, sounded clunky and felt I really needed to help get the ball rolling, feeling was I needed more effort/force to get the ball to the hole. Distance control was erratic and offline.
Below you will find statistics, Photos and of the test. The photos and videos are the best of the testing.
Odyssey AI#1 – Median average 6.5% past the hole during my Heel Test.
Odyssey Divine Line – Median 4% short of the hole during my Heel Test.
Scotty Cameron—Median 13% short of the hole during my Heel Test.
Adding that several types of ball’s were used during this test, Titleist ProV1, Callaway super soft, Kirkland, Taylormade Tp 5 and Tour response.

DivineLine Heel test.mp4










AI#!Heel test 1.0.mp4

I did all the window shopping when I got the putter... It's all business now! 

I did all the window shopping when I got the putter... It's all business now! 

I did all the window shopping when I got the putter... It's all business now! 

You and @buckpillarhave taken all of the suspense from your "play it or trade" decision of your final review 🫢....😆.
Okay, question for the Ai-One testers.  Have any of you found yourselves staring into the window while waiting for others to putt? 

Nice, sounds like the dispersion was tight and distance control spot on. So far I found the heel and toe putts are very consistent and feel the same off the face, I'm currently working on the  center strike putting test, Got some snow today but I'm rolling out my new putting green in the front room so I can continue my tests. 

No Luck on my end, but compared to my Scotty, to me its like night and day. The AI#1, I've already decided its going in the bag, that's how good it feels in my hands.
 

Yep…hole number 17.  It had been a few years since I last played there and they have made a number of changes.

Nice, sounds like the dispersion was tight and distance control spot on. So far I found the heel and toe putts are very consistent and feel the same off the face, I'm currently working on the  center strike putting test, Got some snow today but I'm rolling out my new putting green in the front room so I can continue my tests. 

Nice, sounds like the dispersion was tight and distance control spot on. So far I found the heel and toe putts are very consistent and feel the same off the face, I'm currently working on the  center strike putting test, Got some snow today but I'm rolling out my new putting green in the front room so I can continue my tests. 

I’ve putted both, the milled has a firmer feel. But I wouldn’t call it clicky. I think the non-milled is actually really solid feeling for an insert too. I don’t usually like them, but I did like that one. 

No Luck on my end, but compared to my Scotty, to me its like night and day. The AI#1, I've already decided its going in the bag, that's how good it feels in my hands.