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    Grand Stranded got a reaction from sirchunksalot in L.A.B. DF2.1 Putter   
    I’ve played two rounds the past two days and right now I’m torn with what to say about the DF2.1. I don’t want to come off as critical, but on the other hand I’ve yet to feel there’s anything magical about it, and there’s the rub.
    If I’m going to buy a new putter, I’ve got to feel that magic right away. I’m so appreciative of the opportunity that Lab and MGS have given me, I want to keep plugging away with this and I really want it to work out. I have to be honest though and repeat what I said after my first few practice sessions. If this were a normal situation, and I was testing this against other models in a store, I would’ve put it back on the shelf, and tried something else.
    The size is awkward,  there’s no getting around that. Another thing is I’m not sold on the results of my fitting. I feel like I have to manipulate it to sit flat. When I take my normal setup the heel is above the ground slightly and to correct that I’m moving my arms out more from my body than I feel I should.
    In fairness the results have been pretty good, not great. I’m not fully dialed in with it, nor do I feel as confident with it as I want to, and I think that should have happened by now? I want to keep this review focused on the DF2.1, and don’t want to get into comparisons with my own putter, so I’ll leave it here for today.
     
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    Grand Stranded got a reaction from DriverBreaker in L.A.B. DF2.1 Putter   
    I’ve played two rounds the past two days and right now I’m torn with what to say about the DF2.1. I don’t want to come off as critical, but on the other hand I’ve yet to feel there’s anything magical about it, and there’s the rub.
    If I’m going to buy a new putter, I’ve got to feel that magic right away. I’m so appreciative of the opportunity that Lab and MGS have given me, I want to keep plugging away with this and I really want it to work out. I have to be honest though and repeat what I said after my first few practice sessions. If this were a normal situation, and I was testing this against other models in a store, I would’ve put it back on the shelf, and tried something else.
    The size is awkward,  there’s no getting around that. Another thing is I’m not sold on the results of my fitting. I feel like I have to manipulate it to sit flat. When I take my normal setup the heel is above the ground slightly and to correct that I’m moving my arms out more from my body than I feel I should.
    In fairness the results have been pretty good, not great. I’m not fully dialed in with it, nor do I feel as confident with it as I want to, and I think that should have happened by now? I want to keep this review focused on the DF2.1, and don’t want to get into comparisons with my own putter, so I’ll leave it here for today.
     
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    Grand Stranded got a reaction from ejgaudette in L.A.B. DF2.1 Putter   
    I’ve played two rounds the past two days and right now I’m torn with what to say about the DF2.1. I don’t want to come off as critical, but on the other hand I’ve yet to feel there’s anything magical about it, and there’s the rub.
    If I’m going to buy a new putter, I’ve got to feel that magic right away. I’m so appreciative of the opportunity that Lab and MGS have given me, I want to keep plugging away with this and I really want it to work out. I have to be honest though and repeat what I said after my first few practice sessions. If this were a normal situation, and I was testing this against other models in a store, I would’ve put it back on the shelf, and tried something else.
    The size is awkward,  there’s no getting around that. Another thing is I’m not sold on the results of my fitting. I feel like I have to manipulate it to sit flat. When I take my normal setup the heel is above the ground slightly and to correct that I’m moving my arms out more from my body than I feel I should.
    In fairness the results have been pretty good, not great. I’m not fully dialed in with it, nor do I feel as confident with it as I want to, and I think that should have happened by now? I want to keep this review focused on the DF2.1, and don’t want to get into comparisons with my own putter, so I’ll leave it here for today.
     
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    Grand Stranded got a reaction from sirchunksalot in L.A.B. DF2.1 Putter   
    Not only would I consider it, but a few years ago I bought a Square Stryke chipper. Here’s the problem though… I’ve seen guys who are lights out with a chipper, but I screwed up as many shots with mine as I did with my other clubs. They claim it’s chunk proof, but I debunked that theory very quickly, not to mention I bladed more than my share across the green. That said, look at my sig, I’ve become a big believer in playing the most forgiving club I can. If a chipper works for you, why wouldn’t you play it, or at least give one a try?
    I’ve watched the same Crossfield chipper video you talked about. Check out the ones he has done with the Cleveland hybrid style irons the last few years. The combination of his recommendations and a guy (7 hcap) winning the net portion of our club championship last year with an older version convinced me to give them a try. Crossfield also talks about how great they are around the greens, and that’s what sold me. I’ve been using the 8 iron or DW around the greens and I couldn’t agree more, they’ve been a godsend for my short game.
    I sold my PXGs and can’t imagine ever going back to a traditional iron set. When I bought them I had gone up from a 12 to a 16. I’m now back down to 11.8 after posting my score from today.
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    Grand Stranded got a reaction from GolfSpy SAM in L.A.B. DF2.1 Putter   
    Happy Fourth of July everyone!
    Two rounds in with the DF2.1 and so far so good. If I’m going to quibble about anything, it would be the sound/feel off the face compared to my White Hot OG DW. While the OG has that soft feel the white hot insert is known for, the DF2.1 has a bit of a tinny sound imo.
    Am I holing more putts though? Honestly, I felt like I made about the same as I normally would, but the big thing for me is I have ingrained in my head their mantra of setting up, aligning properly and trusting the tech to do the rest. That seems to have relieved any paralysis by analysis over anything from 10’ and in, and I’ve been happy with the outcomes. I give this putter a big, big plus for that.
    One issue I’ve noticed so far is it doesn’t seem to work as well for me off the green as my old putter. It’s early days, but this could become a big concern on the courses I play, as the fairways and areas around the green are almost always very tightly shaven. If your short game technique isn’t perfect you pay a price so it’s not uncommon to see even better players putt from much further off than you normally would on most courses.
    To be fair, I think this might be an issue with any change of putters, especially one to this extreme. It is something that needs to improve quickly however. Like most every player I know, I can’t afford to have a strength in my game become a weakness when the remedy is sitting in my backup bag.
    We’ll see what happens today. I have another tee time this morning, and I’m going to make a point of trying to work on this issue beforehand.
    To be continued…
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    Grand Stranded got a reaction from sirchunksalot in L.A.B. DF2.1 Putter   
    Every once in a while you have one of those days when the game feels easy. That was me today.
    My club held a Fourth of July event today and I was 3 over after 12 holes. Then in a Caddyshack like moment, the skies opened up, and rain came down in buckets. Unlike the Pastor in that movie, I got while the getting was good, and headed back to the clubhouse for a couple of drinks with the guys.
    The DF2.1 was great today, but in what is a very rare occurrence, my approach shots were spot on all day, so I never really put a lot of pressure on it. Two birdies, one triple on a par 5 when I drove OB by two feet, (and I killed the sucker too)🙄 and a few bogeys I won’t complain about.
    Back out there again tomorrow with our Tuesday Members league. We’ll be playing a net Stableford, where net bogeys are zero points, par is 2 birdies 4 and eagles 8, so I’m going to be aggressive on the greens. Big test for this putter coming up!
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    Grand Stranded got a reaction from sirchunksalot in L.A.B. DF2.1 Putter   
    What does it say on the box your LAB came in? “You’re a better putter than you think you are!”
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    Grand Stranded got a reaction from B_R_A_D_Y in L.A.B. DF2.1 Putter   
    Every once in a while you have one of those days when the game feels easy. That was me today.
    My club held a Fourth of July event today and I was 3 over after 12 holes. Then in a Caddyshack like moment, the skies opened up, and rain came down in buckets. Unlike the Pastor in that movie, I got while the getting was good, and headed back to the clubhouse for a couple of drinks with the guys.
    The DF2.1 was great today, but in what is a very rare occurrence, my approach shots were spot on all day, so I never really put a lot of pressure on it. Two birdies, one triple on a par 5 when I drove OB by two feet, (and I killed the sucker too)🙄 and a few bogeys I won’t complain about.
    Back out there again tomorrow with our Tuesday Members league. We’ll be playing a net Stableford, where net bogeys are zero points, par is 2 birdies 4 and eagles 8, so I’m going to be aggressive on the greens. Big test for this putter coming up!
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    Grand Stranded reacted to cnosil in L.A.B. DF2.1 Putter   
    Golf is interesting.   I was conducting my forum test for the Shot Scope and had the DF2.1 in the bag.   I thought it was an up and down kind of putting day but nothing really special and continued to feel like I wasn't getting the ball to the hole.   After my round I reviewed the strokes gained numbers from my putting and based on the data I gained half a stroke on a scratch handcap golfer.   I guess it may be more in my head than actual performance;  definitely something to keep an eye on. 

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    Grand Stranded got a reaction from sirchunksalot in L.A.B. DF2.1 Putter   
    Happy Fourth of July everyone!
    Two rounds in with the DF2.1 and so far so good. If I’m going to quibble about anything, it would be the sound/feel off the face compared to my White Hot OG DW. While the OG has that soft feel the white hot insert is known for, the DF2.1 has a bit of a tinny sound imo.
    Am I holing more putts though? Honestly, I felt like I made about the same as I normally would, but the big thing for me is I have ingrained in my head their mantra of setting up, aligning properly and trusting the tech to do the rest. That seems to have relieved any paralysis by analysis over anything from 10’ and in, and I’ve been happy with the outcomes. I give this putter a big, big plus for that.
    One issue I’ve noticed so far is it doesn’t seem to work as well for me off the green as my old putter. It’s early days, but this could become a big concern on the courses I play, as the fairways and areas around the green are almost always very tightly shaven. If your short game technique isn’t perfect you pay a price so it’s not uncommon to see even better players putt from much further off than you normally would on most courses.
    To be fair, I think this might be an issue with any change of putters, especially one to this extreme. It is something that needs to improve quickly however. Like most every player I know, I can’t afford to have a strength in my game become a weakness when the remedy is sitting in my backup bag.
    We’ll see what happens today. I have another tee time this morning, and I’m going to make a point of trying to work on this issue beforehand.
    To be continued…
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    Grand Stranded got a reaction from cnosil in L.A.B. DF2.1 Putter   
    Happy Fourth of July everyone!
    Two rounds in with the DF2.1 and so far so good. If I’m going to quibble about anything, it would be the sound/feel off the face compared to my White Hot OG DW. While the OG has that soft feel the white hot insert is known for, the DF2.1 has a bit of a tinny sound imo.
    Am I holing more putts though? Honestly, I felt like I made about the same as I normally would, but the big thing for me is I have ingrained in my head their mantra of setting up, aligning properly and trusting the tech to do the rest. That seems to have relieved any paralysis by analysis over anything from 10’ and in, and I’ve been happy with the outcomes. I give this putter a big, big plus for that.
    One issue I’ve noticed so far is it doesn’t seem to work as well for me off the green as my old putter. It’s early days, but this could become a big concern on the courses I play, as the fairways and areas around the green are almost always very tightly shaven. If your short game technique isn’t perfect you pay a price so it’s not uncommon to see even better players putt from much further off than you normally would on most courses.
    To be fair, I think this might be an issue with any change of putters, especially one to this extreme. It is something that needs to improve quickly however. Like most every player I know, I can’t afford to have a strength in my game become a weakness when the remedy is sitting in my backup bag.
    We’ll see what happens today. I have another tee time this morning, and I’m going to make a point of trying to work on this issue beforehand.
    To be continued…
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    Grand Stranded got a reaction from bens197 in L.A.B. DF2.1 Putter   
    I got out for a practice session this morning in between last night and now this afternoon’s rain. I hate to sound like a broken record, but as much as I like this putter, that’s how much I hate the Press 3 grip. It’s not a normal situation where I would’ve been able to switch it out either. The grip is designed so the shaft goes into it on an angle, which is unlike any other I’ve seen.
    It’s not like I’m Monday Morning Quarterbacking here either. When I placed my order I asked in the comment box if they felt another grip might be better for me.
     
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    Grand Stranded got a reaction from bens197 in L.A.B. DF2.1 Putter   
    I’ve got a tee time for Wednesday. It will be my first round of golf in 6 weeks, and my 3rd in about 10. My leg is feeling pretty close to 100% though, and I think a couple of Aleeve should get me through the day.
    I’m going to hit balls for the first time since then tomorrow, and give the DF2.1 a workout before taking it on it’s maiden voyage. This grip is still annoying the hell outta me though… 🙄
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    Grand Stranded got a reaction from sirchunksalot in L.A.B. DF2.1 Putter   
    So I finally got back on a golf course Wednesday after 6 weeks and got to play a round with the DF2.1
    First things first. I’ve been making a lot of comments about the Press 3.0 grip during practice sessions. I apparently get into a different zone while putting in a round of golf as opposed to just testing, because it wasn’t an issue at all while playing.
    I expected some wtf moments on the greens after not playing for such a long time but that never happened. My distance control was really good, and I can’t think of any time the ball wasn’t going where I didn’t want. I was so successful with it that it’s hard for me to give the type review I wanted to, simply because I had only longish to very short putts today. 
    I’m not a guy who will hit a lot of irons and even wedges within 10 feet of the hole. I’m happy hitting a green. I did that pretty well today, and because the DF2.1 was so good with long putts, I had very few within a 5-12 foot range, which I think is a critical one for determining how well a putter performs for a golfer. We know we’re not going to make them all, but we should make some, and come close enough on the rest to be a bit ticked for missing them.
    I hole putt out on every hole whether I’m in a money or friendly game, so I can say is not only was the DF money on long putts, but the shorties from 4’ and in were point and shoot.
    Saturday I’ll be playing in my money game. We play a different format every week, but usually have a few hundred available in a skin pool. You can make some nice coin if you win a hole (or two), but as most of you know, in a skins game your putter needs to perform. You need to make birdies, pars and bogeys won’t get it done. The best thing I can say about the DF2.1 is if i didn’t think I could make money with it, I wouldn’t put it in play on Saturday, the MGS testing review would be put off for another day.
    It’s going in the bag.
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    Grand Stranded got a reaction from sirchunksalot in L.A.B. DF2.1 Putter   
    You’ve given me a lot of good advice here the last couple of years, I’m going to try to return the favor now…
     What you’re describing reminds me of when I bought an Evenroll putter a few years back. They had glowing reviews, and I bought one, only because I was bored playing a Yes! Tracy for 10+ years. 🙄
    Right away it felt off to me. I was making my normal stroke, yet almost every time my putt would come up short. Naturally I tried to hit them harder. That started a downward spiral of blowing them by the hole or pulling them. Then I got caught in between and started decelling.I was overthinking or trying to over correct something with every putt I looked at, and losing any sense of confidence I had of holing out. Once you lose that confidence with a putter, and the gremlins get in your head, you’re done. 
    It wasn’t very long before I realized it didn’t matter if it was me or the putter. It was a bad marriage, and there was no sense trying to make it work. Sometimes you’ve just got to know when it’s time to let go, my friend. There are plenty of other fish in the sea.
     
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    Grand Stranded got a reaction from sirchunksalot in L.A.B. DF2.1 Putter   
    I got out for a practice session this morning in between last night and now this afternoon’s rain. I hate to sound like a broken record, but as much as I like this putter, that’s how much I hate the Press 3 grip. It’s not a normal situation where I would’ve been able to switch it out either. The grip is designed so the shaft goes into it on an angle, which is unlike any other I’ve seen.
    It’s not like I’m Monday Morning Quarterbacking here either. When I placed my order I asked in the comment box if they felt another grip might be better for me.
     
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    Grand Stranded got a reaction from sirchunksalot in L.A.B. DF2.1 Putter   
    I’ve got a tee time for Wednesday. It will be my first round of golf in 6 weeks, and my 3rd in about 10. My leg is feeling pretty close to 100% though, and I think a couple of Aleeve should get me through the day.
    I’m going to hit balls for the first time since then tomorrow, and give the DF2.1 a workout before taking it on it’s maiden voyage. This grip is still annoying the hell outta me though… 🙄
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    Grand Stranded reacted to GolfSpy SAM in L.A.B. DF2.1 Putter   
    Before you give up, definitely reach out. If only to know you've exhausted all avenues 😉
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    Grand Stranded reacted to cnosil in L.A.B. DF2.1 Putter   
    I have not had the opportunity to reach out; been busy with work, most wanted testing at MGS HQ, and actually playing golf.  Unfortunately, the one thing not working s probably the most important.
    no, I haven’t tried heads up putting with the LAB but I do step off putt distances to help calibrate stroke length.  Probably more if a mental focus and having to overcome the prebuilt feelings.  
     
    it could be time to give up, but I am stubborn 😂
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    Grand Stranded got a reaction from TheProfessor02 in L.A.B. DF2.1 Putter   
    You’ve given me a lot of good advice here the last couple of years, I’m going to try to return the favor now…
     What you’re describing reminds me of when I bought an Evenroll putter a few years back. They had glowing reviews, and I bought one, only because I was bored playing a Yes! Tracy for 10+ years. 🙄
    Right away it felt off to me. I was making my normal stroke, yet almost every time my putt would come up short. Naturally I tried to hit them harder. That started a downward spiral of blowing them by the hole or pulling them. Then I got caught in between and started decelling.I was overthinking or trying to over correct something with every putt I looked at, and losing any sense of confidence I had of holing out. Once you lose that confidence with a putter, and the gremlins get in your head, you’re done. 
    It wasn’t very long before I realized it didn’t matter if it was me or the putter. It was a bad marriage, and there was no sense trying to make it work. Sometimes you’ve just got to know when it’s time to let go, my friend. There are plenty of other fish in the sea.
     
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    Grand Stranded got a reaction from GolfSpy SAM in L.A.B. DF2.1 Putter   
    So I finally got back on a golf course Wednesday after 6 weeks and got to play a round with the DF2.1
    First things first. I’ve been making a lot of comments about the Press 3.0 grip during practice sessions. I apparently get into a different zone while putting in a round of golf as opposed to just testing, because it wasn’t an issue at all while playing.
    I expected some wtf moments on the greens after not playing for such a long time but that never happened. My distance control was really good, and I can’t think of any time the ball wasn’t going where I didn’t want. I was so successful with it that it’s hard for me to give the type review I wanted to, simply because I had only longish to very short putts today. 
    I’m not a guy who will hit a lot of irons and even wedges within 10 feet of the hole. I’m happy hitting a green. I did that pretty well today, and because the DF2.1 was so good with long putts, I had very few within a 5-12 foot range, which I think is a critical one for determining how well a putter performs for a golfer. We know we’re not going to make them all, but we should make some, and come close enough on the rest to be a bit ticked for missing them.
    I hole putt out on every hole whether I’m in a money or friendly game, so I can say is not only was the DF money on long putts, but the shorties from 4’ and in were point and shoot.
    Saturday I’ll be playing in my money game. We play a different format every week, but usually have a few hundred available in a skin pool. You can make some nice coin if you win a hole (or two), but as most of you know, in a skins game your putter needs to perform. You need to make birdies, pars and bogeys won’t get it done. The best thing I can say about the DF2.1 is if i didn’t think I could make money with it, I wouldn’t put it in play on Saturday, the MGS testing review would be put off for another day.
    It’s going in the bag.
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    Grand Stranded got a reaction from GolfSpy SAM in L.A.B. DF2.1 Putter   
    You’ve given me a lot of good advice here the last couple of years, I’m going to try to return the favor now…
     What you’re describing reminds me of when I bought an Evenroll putter a few years back. They had glowing reviews, and I bought one, only because I was bored playing a Yes! Tracy for 10+ years. 🙄
    Right away it felt off to me. I was making my normal stroke, yet almost every time my putt would come up short. Naturally I tried to hit them harder. That started a downward spiral of blowing them by the hole or pulling them. Then I got caught in between and started decelling.I was overthinking or trying to over correct something with every putt I looked at, and losing any sense of confidence I had of holing out. Once you lose that confidence with a putter, and the gremlins get in your head, you’re done. 
    It wasn’t very long before I realized it didn’t matter if it was me or the putter. It was a bad marriage, and there was no sense trying to make it work. Sometimes you’ve just got to know when it’s time to let go, my friend. There are plenty of other fish in the sea.
     
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    Grand Stranded got a reaction from ejgaudette in L.A.B. DF2.1 Putter   
    So I finally got back on a golf course Wednesday after 6 weeks and got to play a round with the DF2.1
    First things first. I’ve been making a lot of comments about the Press 3.0 grip during practice sessions. I apparently get into a different zone while putting in a round of golf as opposed to just testing, because it wasn’t an issue at all while playing.
    I expected some wtf moments on the greens after not playing for such a long time but that never happened. My distance control was really good, and I can’t think of any time the ball wasn’t going where I didn’t want. I was so successful with it that it’s hard for me to give the type review I wanted to, simply because I had only longish to very short putts today. 
    I’m not a guy who will hit a lot of irons and even wedges within 10 feet of the hole. I’m happy hitting a green. I did that pretty well today, and because the DF2.1 was so good with long putts, I had very few within a 5-12 foot range, which I think is a critical one for determining how well a putter performs for a golfer. We know we’re not going to make them all, but we should make some, and come close enough on the rest to be a bit ticked for missing them.
    I hole putt out on every hole whether I’m in a money or friendly game, so I can say is not only was the DF money on long putts, but the shorties from 4’ and in were point and shoot.
    Saturday I’ll be playing in my money game. We play a different format every week, but usually have a few hundred available in a skin pool. You can make some nice coin if you win a hole (or two), but as most of you know, in a skins game your putter needs to perform. You need to make birdies, pars and bogeys won’t get it done. The best thing I can say about the DF2.1 is if i didn’t think I could make money with it, I wouldn’t put it in play on Saturday, the MGS testing review would be put off for another day.
    It’s going in the bag.
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    Grand Stranded got a reaction from edingc in L.A.B. DF2.1 Putter   
    So I finally got back on a golf course Wednesday after 6 weeks and got to play a round with the DF2.1
    First things first. I’ve been making a lot of comments about the Press 3.0 grip during practice sessions. I apparently get into a different zone while putting in a round of golf as opposed to just testing, because it wasn’t an issue at all while playing.
    I expected some wtf moments on the greens after not playing for such a long time but that never happened. My distance control was really good, and I can’t think of any time the ball wasn’t going where I didn’t want. I was so successful with it that it’s hard for me to give the type review I wanted to, simply because I had only longish to very short putts today. 
    I’m not a guy who will hit a lot of irons and even wedges within 10 feet of the hole. I’m happy hitting a green. I did that pretty well today, and because the DF2.1 was so good with long putts, I had very few within a 5-12 foot range, which I think is a critical one for determining how well a putter performs for a golfer. We know we’re not going to make them all, but we should make some, and come close enough on the rest to be a bit ticked for missing them.
    I hole putt out on every hole whether I’m in a money or friendly game, so I can say is not only was the DF money on long putts, but the shorties from 4’ and in were point and shoot.
    Saturday I’ll be playing in my money game. We play a different format every week, but usually have a few hundred available in a skin pool. You can make some nice coin if you win a hole (or two), but as most of you know, in a skins game your putter needs to perform. You need to make birdies, pars and bogeys won’t get it done. The best thing I can say about the DF2.1 is if i didn’t think I could make money with it, I wouldn’t put it in play on Saturday, the MGS testing review would be put off for another day.
    It’s going in the bag.
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    Grand Stranded got a reaction from DriverBreaker in L.A.B. DF2.1 Putter   
    So I finally got back on a golf course Wednesday after 6 weeks and got to play a round with the DF2.1
    First things first. I’ve been making a lot of comments about the Press 3.0 grip during practice sessions. I apparently get into a different zone while putting in a round of golf as opposed to just testing, because it wasn’t an issue at all while playing.
    I expected some wtf moments on the greens after not playing for such a long time but that never happened. My distance control was really good, and I can’t think of any time the ball wasn’t going where I didn’t want. I was so successful with it that it’s hard for me to give the type review I wanted to, simply because I had only longish to very short putts today. 
    I’m not a guy who will hit a lot of irons and even wedges within 10 feet of the hole. I’m happy hitting a green. I did that pretty well today, and because the DF2.1 was so good with long putts, I had very few within a 5-12 foot range, which I think is a critical one for determining how well a putter performs for a golfer. We know we’re not going to make them all, but we should make some, and come close enough on the rest to be a bit ticked for missing them.
    I hole putt out on every hole whether I’m in a money or friendly game, so I can say is not only was the DF money on long putts, but the shorties from 4’ and in were point and shoot.
    Saturday I’ll be playing in my money game. We play a different format every week, but usually have a few hundred available in a skin pool. You can make some nice coin if you win a hole (or two), but as most of you know, in a skins game your putter needs to perform. You need to make birdies, pars and bogeys won’t get it done. The best thing I can say about the DF2.1 is if i didn’t think I could make money with it, I wouldn’t put it in play on Saturday, the MGS testing review would be put off for another day.
    It’s going in the bag.
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