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Good Luck Harry! Seems to be a legit good opportunity. The challenge, though, is pretty steep to reset the value of Wilson in the general consumers eyes. Especially when your Woods segment is so lacking. But maybe that's the focal point. Never-the-less, most consumers are just stubbornly locked in desiring the Taylormades, Callaways, Pings, and Titleists product offerings.

Update to the Bag ending 2022 and headed into 2023: Driver - Flips back and forth between Ping 425 LST 9* Driver and my Titleist TSI3 Depends on the swing and how it's going. 3 Wood - TSI2 Old reliable 3 Hybrid - TSI2 Just love the height and stopping power of the thing. Versatility as well. 4-GW - T-100s Irons - Late season addition that HAD to go in the bag. These things are amazing. 54 and 58 - Jaws Raw wedges. They honestly are just so playable out of all the wedges I've tried and tested. Putter - Flips back and forth between my Cameron Special Select Squareback and my Betty QB8 303S. Betty got more play time this because my distance control and feel with that thing are just amazing. Bag - Titleist Hybrid 14 Grey and White stand bag. Long time Ping Hoofer guy, but this thing is just so sweet. Balls - Pro V1x Added spin, fighting ability and overall feel are just amazing.

I've a bad taste for PGASS.... I bought a Mizuno STZ driver this summer (August) in Myrtle. It was the special edition Blue model. Hit it about 10 rounds. Couldn't stand it it because of how inconsistent the flights, distance and feel were. Took it back to the PGASS. First the guy said this must be an old driver because they don't make a blue one. I sat there dumbfounded and told him to look online on his OWN site and see how old it was. "Oh, yea... there it is... That's a new one alright." He then tried to tell me the trade-in value of the club. I quickly reminded him that was well within the "play and return" policy they advertise. So then he argued that I didn't have my receipt, but it was on my account I created with PGASS showing the record of sale. He still tried to argue with me. I actually had to have them call their district GM because no one in that store could satisfy my request. All that to say, it's nice that they carry ALL of the equipment, but they aren't the only ones that do so. I probably wont go back in there again unless I absolutely have too.

I do remember the softee grips. When they came out I was working in a shop and had to put them on a million clubs. Found out quick though, they were NOT very durable and people were replacing them too frequently.... So many just moved on to another grip. But I do remember them. Felt good to the touch and grip.

I actually enjoy the SuperStroke grips as well on my putter. The midsized one, not that huge one. Just feel that they give you a much better feel in the hands when putting.

I had a similar experience with the Dri-Tac grips. They do feel amazing when they are new... But, when they start to wear it goes quickly. Playing as frequently as I do, I just couldn't keep replacing them so back to the GP MCC +4 midsize I went. Really wish though that they would improve the compounds in those Dri-Tac because they do feel great!

Good clarification! I think I still stand behind the statement though. I mean, I like so many here, have the same sickness and will spend on clubs regardless of the prices. But when the USGA, PGA, and Golf Manufacturers in general speak of growing the game I find it a hard pill to swallow when we see the ever increasing prices. Now, I know many are going to say inflation, costs are surely more on their end and they have to profit, etc... But when I think of someone knew coming in the game and getting caught by the bug.. They're in most cases unless they have a lot of expendable cash going to resort to the second hand used market more than they are going to go to the new market because of the price points growing like they are. Regardless, they're beautiful clubs that I can't take away from them nor would I. I just see the price increases by all these different OEMs and think wow that's salty.

Many are going to spend regardless of the selling price. However, that doesn't mean that it justifies it. $1499 is just a bridge too far. Is that 5-PW or 4-PW? I mean, I'm as guilty as anyone for spending on clubs regardless... but there is a breaking point for everyone where they just say it's far too much money to spend on a set of irons when you still have to buy woods, wedges and putters. Just my opinion.

I know a few who have gotten some of them that this was the case. The August (not official but its the one with the flowers and green) is fairly thing and it actually is quite soft leather. But I have seen some of the other ones that friends got that were a bit on the thicker side. So I totally get it.

I use two different brands. Rose and Fire and Robert Mark Golf. Both are amazing and have positive points about their products. I'm a huge fan of the fine leather headcover in various styles. Some may say it's excessive but I say..."I paid enough for those clubs that I'm gonna protect them and their gonna look good while I'm at it!" The August print ones from Rose and Fire are absolutely in my opinion too btw. I have that on my three wood and driver. The hybrids and putter are split amongst both brands. Check them out.

My opinion, and how I will operate in anything I'm selling, is that the number of financial transactions will increase. You're going to see, and I know I'm not in the minority here, people are going to sell those $800 clubs and request that the purchasee makes 2 or 3 transactions to the total. Just another case of the government trying to take more money from everyone so they can use it for nothing productive. But that's my opinion only.

sssshhhh we can't talk about that company critically and or why they would bring out older product again.. Might cause a ruckus. Just kidding. I did see it, and I can only assume that it was a popular line that did well with them so they offered them again to satisfy the demand. That's the only reason I could think of.

As one of the admins posted yesterday, and I think it really cuts to the teeth of the discussion, everyone is okay to spend money on what they want. If they have the means to do so and it makes them feel good, god bless. For me, my opinion in particular on the TM and Callaway's of the world, pretty clear by my previous posts. Guess I'm just one of the few people on the inner webs as someone else pointed out that likes to not use facts to have an opinion.

Great point and I guess it's like everything... People have differing opinions. Where I see the problem, mostly, is there are a few BIG companies that do pump out new clubs or improvements on a 2 year cycle. Think Ping, Titleist, Mizuno, etc... Putting a new club out with a new paint job on it every year doesn't win me over. Now that's not to say my opinion is ANY better than anyone elses. Nor is it to say I'm right. BUT, for me I look at TM and Callaway in particular and can't help but think.... You do not have to push out new stuff EVERY year guys... The market would fully illustrate that my opinion is bunk in the numbers of people that buy new gear every year from them. The market bares that there is still an appetite for it out there. And that's absolutely fine. I just view it as a "money grab" in a sense because they're REALLY not making wholesale improvements year on year. Some they do, other years they don't really outside they go from green to brownish or white to red. That all said, I don't mean to offend in any way. I'm just giving my take on it.

I did, and I can understand like everything you have to keep moving the technology forward... I guess you can chalk me up as one that hears the words Taylor Made and start to roll my eyes more often than not. That said, I had the same type of thoughts when they came out with SIM2. All those pieces of the head latched together with a couple bolts and carbon all over. I had told a few friends I wouldn't be surprised if it doesnt fail or break a heck of a lot easier. Ended up being right. I'm all for moving tech forward in the clubs. It helps a lot of people. BUT, where my ire gets up is the whole Marketing nonsense they force feed the public. That's always just a bridge too far for me.. In my humble opinion, of course.