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1 hour ago, revkev said:
I have the unique ability to make anything from driver, to putter, golf bag, golf cart, golf tee, golf ball, shoes, socks, rain gear, golf gloves, range finders, gps devices, ball markers, golf bag and divot tools perform poorly at the most inopportune times.
I can relate!
1 hour ago, russtopherb said:Yup. Got rid of all of mine. What an annoyance.
A repeat offender, I'll steer well clear.
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7 hours ago, GolfSpy_APH said:
This one may sounds stupid or not as relevant, however important to me is good shoes. Cheaper shoes that don't have great comfort, fit and waterproofness are top of my list.
I have 3 different types of shoes for that reason. The ones I enjoy more often are the Nike Air Max 90G, they aren't too breathable because of the water resistant material, but they are great until you get north of 90 degrees out and they keep out the early morning dew if you are hitting the course early. I have a hot weather pair and a wet weather pair.
37 minutes ago, vandyland said:This is extremely niche but the umbrella holder on my push cart. I can't make it high enough so I can stand under the umbrella, it doesn't have enough grip for even the slightest wind and is overall just a waste of space. It is the standard umbrella holder that comes on the TGW pushcart (which is an awesome, inexpensive pushcart for all other aspects).
I'd always wondered about that seeing people with them, I would have the same issue.
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What's the worst performing and least functional gear in the game today? Golf carts? Socks? The legs on a carry bag? What's the thing that feels like stubbing your toe every time you use it? Surely there's a better way!
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1 hour ago, ChitownM2 said:
is Zero Friction the one size fits all brand though? I've tried those on before and the fit was not great. The stretchy fabric that allows it to be "one size" seems like a compromise
Definitely not the first mention of Zero Friction, I love their tees and they are here in Chicago.
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7 minutes ago, Rore said:
The frequency of play and weather conditions determine how long a golf glove will last, but I have found that Bionic gloves actually do last 2 to 3 times longer than other brands I have used over the years.
Another one I have checked out, cheers!
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55 minutes ago, hedgegolfer said:
I have sweaty palms, malformed thumbs, some arthritis, and carpal tunnel syndrome in my right (dominant) hand, so grip and wear are SUPER important to me. Have tried most of them and found that COPPERTECH gloves are superior in grip and wear... I can get at least a month if not 2 or more out of a pair (I have to wear L + R)... washable (they are synthetic). I have very wide hands and shorter fingers... the one-size-fits-all really does. I call them my SPIDERMAN gloves because they really are.
NOT CHEAP, but they have sales and 2 for 1 deals periodically.
Second place: BIONIC gloves. They aren't for everyone as they have padding on the knuckles, but THEY LAST. Leather, so not as long as COPPERTECH, but they are reinforced in the right places. Can wash them and restore them.
Hope this helps.
Brilliant stuff, I really appreciate the input!
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14 hours ago, bluesmandan76 said:
Cabretta gloves just don't last very long with me. Between the humidity, my sweat, and cords on my grips, they just tear up too fast. Probably not a month. Either the heelpad busts, or my thumb pops through the end. In 2019 I started using Finger Ten All Weather gloves. They're sort of a microfiber cloth. I've retired some from being dirty and stretched out, and I've had one that the seams came undone, but none of them have ripped holes in them like cabretta gloves ALWAYS do for me. I've tried other materials, but I don't like any kind of "pleather" glove. They just don't perform. The microfiber cloth performs great for me, especially in the humidity where I live (NC).
After some heavy digging, even the manufacturers/retailers are saying that a cabretta leather glove lasts about 10 rounds. There must be a better way for recreational and non professional, competitive golfers to use a glove for a reasonable period of time.
15 minutes ago, saz0418 said:I can strongly, strongly, STRONGLY recommend the Bionic Gloves. I buy mine on Amazon ($18 US). My last 3 orders have been the New Improved 2X Long Lasting Bionic RelaxGrip Golf Glove with Patented Double-Row Finger Grip System. I can't tell you how long they last because I can't seem to wear them out. I play 4 -5 times a week, and these gloves last in good condition for at least 3 - 4 months. I have ones older than that that I still use on my driving range (launch monitor) where I hit a LOT of balls. Those are easily 6 - 8 months old and maybe older. How about this feature: you can WASH them when they get especially soiled! Also, they have pads built in that help you grip the club without strangling it, so your grip pressure is better and the club swings and releases more freely. Looking at my order history, I ordered (2) gloves for all of 2021 (Feb and July). And, I have ordered (2) so far this year (June and Oct). So, what's that, 4 gloves in 2 years? Dozens of rounds each.
The feel is not synthetic (to me). You should at least give them a try.
Thank you, I will!
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2 minutes ago, Anderzac said:
Cuater Between the Lines - One Pair a season - 18 to 27 holes aweek in Michigan.
Very interesting, I do have Cuater belts, I'll have to look at their gloves. Cheers!
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3 minutes ago, ChuckZ said:
Happy Veterans Day to all those who have served. Appreciate each of you. USAF 1965-1971. Off to work, have a member/guest to work that was cancelled because of Hurricane Ian. S.A.L.U.T.E.
Absolutely, enjoy the day and thank you so much for your service!
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4 minutes ago, ChitownM2 said:
Glove use is entirely dependent on the weather for me. In the summer when they get really sweaty, I get maybe 10 rounds out of them. In the spring/fall and indoors in winter they seem to last forever. I usually go through 2-3 a season overall, but i'm only playing like 30 something outdoor rounds plus indoor simulators on a weekly basis.
I did start swapping gloves after 9 holes on the hot days to make them last longer as they seem to tear when they get really wet and it seems to be working. I also bought some anti-perspirant lotion stuff for your hands last year and that also seems to reduce the amount of sweat on hands which further helps. It's expensive, but you hardly need to use any so I'll probably get 4 years out of this one tube assuming I don't lose it or have it open up and leak out into my bag.
https://smile.amazon.com/gp/product/B085KKF2KY/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8&psc=1
I'd say I am on the low sweat side of things personally, so the impact during the year is mainly on hotter days in Chicagoland. It seems like I am right in the sweet spot for glove use, pretty average amount of wear.
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1 minute ago, ChuckZ said:
Have you tried FJ gloves? I am a big guy, 6'2" 265 lbs and have a good sized hand and wear a size large in FJ gloves. Have no issue with them stretching to the point where the wear out quicker and tear. The leather in the palm is quality leather and holds up. Are you griping you clubs in your fingers or your hands? I had to make the change and found out thru a swing coach a number of years ago. Am 76 and has helped the wear on my gloves and definitely me striking the golf ball.
I have tried FJ's, I have had the same issues with them. I am 6ft 3, 190lbs and I grip the club with my fingers mainly, with a fuller grip on driver and distance clubs.
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1 minute ago, NoRebound said:
I've been using Nike Tech Extreme for the last decade and I get about half a season out of them. I play at least once a week and hit the range about once a week.
For a time a couple of years ago it was almost impossible to find any Nike gloves so I switched to a Callaway Tour and found that they stretched badly after 4-5 rounds.
Also tried the Kirkland gloves and found the same issue with stretching. I am using the last of the four that I bought last year and after 4 rounds it has stretched so badly that I can't keep it closed any longer.
(See my previous comment about the stretching, it's a problem)
I hear you. I love some of the Nike products in general from back in the early 2000's, I still have my Nike CPR hybrid 3 & 5 which I can't bear to part with!
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1 hour ago, ChuckZ said:
There are a lot of factors to look at. Your grip, weather conditions and proper fit. Most people wear gloves that are too large which causes them to wear out more quickly. I do a lot of glove fittings at events and it really surprises me how many people are wearing the wrong sizes. They think because they have short fingers they need a cadet. Partially correct. The cadet glove is designed for those with a wide hand and in some cases they have shorter fingers. I can get a couple of months out my gloves, maybe longer and I play at least three times a week and I never take my glove off. I have enclosed a site that may help out with some proven suggestions to increase the longevity of your gloves. If you are playing the south where the heat index is over a hundred in the summer months, I would highly recommend the FJ StaCool which is designed for those conditions. They can be washed in cool water, but do not throw them in a dryer. Most buy the WeatherSof's because of the lower prices (two packs) but the StaCool glove are much softer and last longer. My personal favorite glove is the FJ HyperFlex for year round play. It is one of the premium gloves. Again, I must emphasis that a properly fitted glove will definite increase the wear of your glove.
You are a gentleman, thank you, this is so helpful! I have long fingers and a long hand, but very slim line it seems. My issues are with gloves being too wide if I have them long enough, so some of the glove will bunch in the palm, leading to slippage and friction. I usually size down rather than having this, and I fear that this stretching of the fabric leads to quicker wear and tear. I'm not expecting a fix and this isn't really a woe is me statement, just some interesting challenges in the space.
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2 hours ago, WaffleHouseTour said:
I like North Coast. I know, a brand you probably never heard of, but something I stumbled upon during the pandemic days. I like the fit (they actually had me measure my hand and showed where/how to do it. I’ve been pleased with the longevity. And I like the variety. Yes, I’m talking about colors here. I’m not some animal that is going to wear black pants with a navy striped glove…
Like Tom TGN said earlier, it’s about rotation. He’s spot on. In peak season here I have to rotate every six holes. But I found something better than just velcroing them to the strap of my bag. I got their little glove “stash” or caddie. Zip them up flat and they seam to stay fresher and last longer. They don’t come out as crinkled dry paper… The stash fits nicely inside my bag.
I think SheWhoMustBeObeyed gets me three every Father’s Day… they are around $20-24, buying more lowers the price.
And yes, due to my other circumstances I clearly have my bag inside and waaay too much time in my hands that I’m snapping photos of golf gloves…
So much gold in this post, I love this! The multi glove sleeve is the move and with the range and multiple gloves on the course to rotate, I love this option. I am a big fan of anyone who loves to organize and compartmentalize their gear, it's the move!
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1 minute ago, tony@CIC said:
One other bit of advice since you mentioned grips is washing all of your grips on a regular basis. While it may not make your gloves last longer, they'll certainly look better.
Another really good point. I pull all of my clubs twice a year or after a bad weather round and give them a good scrub. I probably don't do this as often as I should and it definitely helps the feel right after. Cheers!
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3 minutes ago, tony@CIC said:
@Matt Hutch welcome to the Forum. I do the same thing as @Golfspy_TCB- although mine get hung up on the velcro strip on top of my golf cart. On a hot humid day I'll probably go 5 or 6 holes before it's time to change to a dry glove. I've also used FJ rain gloves, as the mesh seems a bit better in evaporating the hand sweat. Another benefit of the rain glove (I buy the gray ones) is that they're washable ( just soak them over night in Oxi).
As to how long my gloves last - I probably bought 4 gloves this year ( I play about 150+ rounds a year). Alternating them during a round definitely makes them last longer. I just bought 2 pair of PGASS gloves at 10.99, last week. They seem as soft as my FJ's and are a bit longer in the wrist (I wear a XL glove). Time will tell if they're as good. One glove that didn't last anywhere near the others is one I bought from Snell. Seemed like the Snell glove lasted 5 rounds and then started wearing through in the palm. I definitely spend a lot less that $175 and that's playing the number of rounds I do. Hope this helps.
p.s. I'd pitch that glove on the left in your original post real fast - it looks a bit gamy.
Thanks haha! The glove on the left is actually someone else's, I couldn't bring myself to keep that in my bag!
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9 minutes ago, goaliedad30 said:
The glove / hands are the only piece of contact we have with the actual instrument that's striking the golf ball. If someone can figure out how to make a glove that retains that "new glove" traction and feel, that would be awesome. I also change my grips probably 3 times a year, for the same reason.
That is a great point. For this reason, I have also considered more regular grip changes or using a pair of gloves to avoid that horrible sticky rubber constant feeling during the round. I really appreciate the input, this is gold!
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14 minutes ago, goaliedad30 said:
A number of years ago, I switched to gloves from MG Golf (www.mggolf.com). They sell for around $7 each, and wear reasonably well. I'll usually get 10-15 rounds out of a glove. At the low price point, I've taken to treating them like tees: they're disposable. If it gets a tear, or get too slick, I just replace it.
It's sad and frustrating that we have such a disposable mindset so quickly with such a key piece of gear, but it does present an opportunity for innovation!
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4 minutes ago, GolfSpy_APH said:
Zero Friction is good for the price for sure. Haven't used them in a few years, but when I had them I was happy with them.
Oh and as per your signature I am curious about whats in your bag! I think you should post some photos of what you have!
Excellent, thanks! Not what's in my bag, what is my bag is the question. I have a couple of golf bags (and other products) with a few patents pending, coming to market in 2023, I am just mindful of etiquette here so I am not using this as a forum to promote my stuff. If you or anyone else would like to know more, I am happy to connect with you directly - feel free to DM me. Thanks again for taking the time to post a reply, I really appreciate it!
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4 minutes ago, EasyPutter said:
I happened upon a great closeout deal for Zero Friction gloves and picked up about a half dozen, gave away a couple, another one to my son, the first one lasted all last year and the second one is still going strong this year pressed into service during winter league indoor play. I just finished my 121st round of 2022 and the outer material is a bit worn but there are no holes or tears. Will probably get back to winter league again before I retire this one.
Friend of mine buys gloves by the gross just about, at least by the dozen and tears them usually within a round. One of the Zero Friction gloves I gave away this past year was to him during winter league and the next week I saw him with a different glove and sure enough he had shredded the Zero Friction glove already. I guess durability depends on how you wear them just like everything else.
Mine is worn from getting ready for the first tee and taken off after the last putt on the last green no matter what the weather condition or temperature. I hang it on the side of my bag and it thoroughly dries or does whatever it does in fresh air until worn again. I keep a spare in the bag but as you can already appreciate it has to wait a long while before it gets its chance to go into play.
I was just looking at Zero Friction as they are a Chicago brand, thanks for this.
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12 minutes ago, Tom the Golf Nut said:
Rotation is key. If you wear it until it's soaked with sweat and throw it in your bag you will have poor longevity. In my area when it is extremely hot and humid in July and August, I wear a Mokum Glove. You can get it on Amazon cheaper than directly from the manufacturer. I did a review on it. Just do a search in un-official reviews. I purchased one glove just to try it out. It has lasted two seasons and it is still good for next year as well. During normal conditions when wearing a normal cabretta leather glove I go through about 4 a season. I do a 9 hole rotation between two gloves. But I usually hang the other on the side of the bag to air it out then place it back in the original packaging to keep them flat at the end of the round.
The Kirkland glove from Cosco, and a glove called Red Rooster have good reviews. The Red Rooster has an auto deliver program in which you tell them the time frame. Then you get automatic deliveries. Currently I use the Wilson Conform and they hold up very well. Next season I'm trying the Red Rooster for normal conditions and the Mokum for the hot and humid months.
Thank you, I'll have a look at that review, great information again here - I really appreciate this!
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1 hour ago, Middler said:
Depends on the glove. I had a top dollar full Cabretta glove that developed a hole in one round. I have Foot Joy Weather Softs that last for 9 months, and could have gone longer. IF it's a synthetic glove, and you wash it once every week or two, it will last even longer than if not. I'm using a FJ TropiCool glove (for summer) that has lasted all Summer and into Fall, but you can't buy them now (summer only?).
When I am battling sweat, I use two gloves and rotate them every hole so they can stay a little drier. And just this year I take my glove off on/around the green, just to let it dry a little - I don't do it to improve feel putting like a pro, but I have gotten used to putting without a glove.
I bought a pair of FJ StaSof Winters last year and they lasted all winter and into Spring/Summer when I didn't need them anyore - I tried to wash them, and it ruined them, so I bought a new pair for this Winter.
This is fantastic, thank you so much for the detail, I really appreciate you taking the time. I definitely have some experimenting to do to get the right rotation, as I think that's key. Cheers!
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@Golfspy_TCB I am all over these product reviews, they are the best out there and they really do help out golfers, much appreciated!
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What's the worst performing equipment in Golf?
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I wish I had a sure thing solution!
I have never had the pleasure of sharing the course with someone using one.