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    buckpillar reacted to Michael.Sandoval33 in Odyssey Ai-ONE Putters - 2023 Forum Review   
    Yeah that is definitely what I am reading from all the reviews and I agree, when I first saw this on the forum I pretty much ignored the topic. But after digging into it, I am really intrigued at the notion of taking my Cleveland in and comparing the two. But according to the PGA superstore site, the putters are not in store.
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    buckpillar reacted to TJ Hall in Odyssey Ai-ONE Putters - 2023 Forum Review   
    Across the board, the Ai-ONE has earned a spot in the bag for each member in this test!  Really think it’s a testament to the technology that has gone into this putter…Odyssey has done a great job with these!
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    buckpillar reacted to Blaine Dye in Odyssey Ai-ONE Putters - 2023 Forum Review   
    Final review is up saved my pictures incorrectly so was not able to upload them i will do that after work hope yall enjoy 
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    buckpillar reacted to Willie T in Odyssey Ai-ONE Putters - 2023 Forum Review   
    Quick question for @Rob Person, @Blaine Dye, @buckpillar, @TJ Hall and will post the same on the Milled side of testers:  Has your putting technique improved in the course of the testing? 
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    buckpillar got a reaction from TJ Hall in Odyssey Ai-ONE Putters - 2023 Forum Review   
    What an awesome review, great job Rob!
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    buckpillar got a reaction from TJ Hall in Odyssey Ai-ONE Putters - 2023 Forum Review   
    I would say slightly, I think the counter balance helped quieting the hands a little more,  the feel of the weight in the butt end helped balance the grip pressure and freed up the stroke some.
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    buckpillar reacted to Rob Person in Odyssey Ai-ONE Putters - 2023 Forum Review   
    100%. Yes, I definitely have changed my technique a little bit due to some great advice. And I'm also found myself getting up and going into the other room and practicing. A few puts in the morning or in the evening. I can't say enough how impressed I am.
    Also, having that mirror has helped me learn how to square My face and draw my putter back more square from the face of the ball.
    I still plan to play around with the weights on the bottom. To determine whether or not I can eliminate my rotation after impact even more.
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    buckpillar got a reaction from Rob Person in Odyssey Ai-ONE Putters - 2023 Forum Review   
    I would say slightly, I think the counter balance helped quieting the hands a little more,  the feel of the weight in the butt end helped balance the grip pressure and freed up the stroke some.
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    buckpillar got a reaction from Rob Person in Odyssey Ai-ONE Putters - 2023 Forum Review   
    What an awesome review, great job Rob!
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    buckpillar reacted to Rob Person in Odyssey Ai-ONE Putters - 2023 Forum Review   
    Odyssey “AI-ONE DB” Putter:  The Journey (final review)
     My FINAL REVIEW post is -----> HERE <-----
     
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    buckpillar reacted to TJ Hall in Odyssey Ai-ONE Putters - 2023 Forum Review   
    A similar article was posted in the Milled forum, but figured I would add here as well:
    https://golf.com/gear/biggest-wyndham-clark-change-pebble-record/ 
    Pros are getting on the Ai-ONE bandwagon as well!
     
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    buckpillar reacted to Bohnson in Odyssey Ai-ONE Putters - 2023 Forum Review   
    I am loving the reviews! I bought one and rolling it on the perf practice mat. Rolls good and looks good. Looking forward to using it on the course and comparing it to the #9 that is my gamer (15 years). 
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    buckpillar got a reaction from cksurfdude in Forum Leaders Get New Names!   
    Congratulations on the promotions!! 

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    buckpillar got a reaction from TJ Hall in Odyssey Ai-ONE Putters - 2023 Forum Review   
    Just re-read , Very nice review Glad to see it in the bag! Have a great year of putting!
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    buckpillar got a reaction from TJ Hall in Odyssey Ai-ONE Putters - 2023 Forum Review   
    Great Review Rob, keep'em rolling!
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    buckpillar got a reaction from Rob Person in Odyssey Ai-ONE Putters - 2023 Forum Review   
    Just re-read , Very nice review Glad to see it in the bag! Have a great year of putting!
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    buckpillar got a reaction from Rob Person in Odyssey Ai-ONE Putters - 2023 Forum Review   
    Great Review Rob, keep'em rolling!
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    buckpillar got a reaction from Michael.Sandoval33 in Odyssey Ai-ONE Putters - 2023 Forum Review   
    Great Review Rob, keep'em rolling!
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    buckpillar reacted to Rob Person in Odyssey Ai-ONE Putters - 2023 Forum Review   
    WAAAZZZZUUPPPPPP!
    My name is "state your name" 
    (anyone remember that skit?  Bueller? Bueller? )

    First off, thank you MGS and Odyssey for this amazing opportunity.  I aim to not let anyone down with this test.
    I'm in southeast Alabama, and while it gets cold here, there should be ample chances to truly test this putter thoroughly. 
    Being that I have only started playing golf a little over 15 months ago, I hope to prove worthy!
    I super excited to be testing the AI-one double wide.
    My current putters are a 25 year old Foremost fzp-1 blade, and a Ray Cook Silver Ray mallet that I bought 6 months ago.
     
    I chose this model with hopes that by going with this putter, I can find that sweet middle ground between the 2 that I currently play.
    And if there is any questions or testing requests, please tag me in them.
    I intend to use my home rollout putting mat, practice greens, and actually playing rounds for this test. I will be using different types of golf balls as well. (brands tbd)
    Thanks again!
    can you tell I'm really excited?

     
    Odyssey “AI-ONE DB” Putter:  The Journey (final review)
     
    Why I chose the DB: Just look at it! Its just so, well…… its sexy looking, and it screams, PUTT ME, PUTT ME, PUTT ME! 


    I was truly in shock and awe when I found out I was selected with the honor of testing out the AI-ONE DB putter. (henceforth to be known as “DB”) 
    I only began my golfing journey in late 2022, and my current putter is a RayCook SR500 mallet putter. My previous putter was a Foremost FZP-1 blade putter. The RayCook was my first mallet putter, and it was definitely an adjustment to learn to putt with.

     I did spend quite some time deliberating between the DB and the Rossie S models when applying to this test. The Rossie S (spec wise) fell more in line with my arc stroke. But the reason for selecting the DB was simple. I used a blade putter for 8 months, then switched to a mallet putter. The DB profile fits in between the two (double wide blade), and is what I believed  I would look for if I was shopping for a new putter.
    **At the initial release of this test, there were only select/limited stock models available. As of February 1st, 2024 There are now over a dozen models, including new releases, different neck styles, shafts, grips, womens, LH, etc, available on odysseys website**  
    CLICK HERE TO SEE ALL OF THE ODYSSEY AI-ONE PUTTERS AVAILABLE
    The Unboxing/First Impressions: 20/20
        The box was in pristine condition. As I was opening it, the anticipation had my anxiety peaking, and I had never been gentler than I was that day. It was packaged very well and seemed secure in its cardboard holster. Upon removing the DB from its traveling home, I just stood there, mouth agape, admiring it. It was flawless!  One of the bonus benefits is Odyssey allowed for some custom build options for this test (more than 8 grip choices, custom lie angle, and shaft length). I opted to alter the stock build configuration, using the shortest shaft length. (I chose a 32” shaft), I also added 1 degree to the lie angle as well. It came with a premium magnetic head cover, in coordinated colors to match the putter. Inside is very plush and seems to protect the finish well on the putter head.

    The grip at first felt really soft and smooth, but once it warms up in your hands, it begins to get tacky, but not sticky. I really like the feel of it.


    some specs: The grip is the AI-ONE pistol grip, in a white/blue combo, it comes with a steel SL90 shaft, the head is a navy blue PVD coated finish. Odyssey website states a loft of 3 degrees, 70 degrees lie angle, 20 degrees of toe hang, and a weight of 360 grams. It has the AI designed aluminum insert bonded to a white-hot grooved face. It comes stock with 2, changeable 15 gram weights, inserted into the bottom of the putter. (different weight kits from Odyssey are now available online)


    Odysseys secret to all of this?  the insert itself. Designed and printed by AI to promote the most forgiveness no matter where you contact the face.

    First Impressions:   
    Aesthetics- 10/10
    DB design has clean lines and a smooth finish. Its color pallet blends nicely together.
     But let’s talk about the showstopper. The AI-ONE clear window at the back of the putter. It was really hard to not just stare at it and lose complete track of time. It’s like looking into the proverbial “window to the soul”. I am not sure it provides any actual performance enhancement, but they crushed it in the visual appeal department for sure!

    Feel & Sound- 10/10
     I took some practice strokes the same day it arrived. The first time using it was nerve racking for me. Was I going to like it? Was I going to struggle with putting even more? Was the weight of the putter and how it balanced in my hands, how it felt during my swing, and how well I could roll a ball, going to affect my already mediocre flat game?  I laid a few balls down, and settled in for the adventure.! 
    First Contact! I took a few strokes and hit about 6 balls. The initial contact feel was immediately noticeable. I couldn’t believe how well the ball responded to the face. It didn’t have the “clunk” sound I was accustomed to. (mallet putter equated to hitting a nail with a hammer) The ball pushed off the face with a soft “click” sound. A dozen more strokes and I was dialing in the short distance control rather quickly. The feedback was quite a positive revelation for me, as I now realized I what I had been lacking in my putting. I used several different makes of balls, (from cheap to top of the line), and while some were firmer than others off the face, I was able to distinguish the differences quickly enough to make appropriate pressure adjustments. As a bonus, I was able to use 3 different prototype balls. the Titleist TEST ball, and the Bridgestone Tour B RX/RXS balls. But I tapped any and every type of ball I had on hand !!!

    The numbers: 10/10
    (This is subjective to your stroke style and rolling conditions)
    Accuracy- I noticed that it was easy with the DB to be able to reproduce similar distance results on 95% of putts rolled.  Off center contact is very forgiving most of the time.
    Distance Control – This was something I personally struggled for a long time with. I can say unequivocally that with the DB, I do not miss that struggle at all! The putter responds to pressure and speed inputs very well. I actually had to reduce the speed and length of my stroke to accommodate for how well this putter interacted. The ball does not come off hot at all, and any major errors in distance control was completely on my error in judgement. This pic displays putts made from 50' away.

    Stability of Stroke – I have a natural out to in arc to my stroke, so I tend to pull the ball a bit when putting. The DB face has lessened that error, even when repeating the same stroke path. The curve of the bottom of the putter also helps to reduce ground contact issues as well.(dragging the club)

    Forgiveness – Oh Boy this is amazing!!! I have gained a ton of confidence knowing that if I make a heel or toe strike, the error correction is minimal due to the AI insert technology. While there is a minor difference in sound between center and off center contact, the end results are not egregious. 
    Playability – Uphill putts? Easy peasy. The ball comes off the face smooth, and with no noticeable “Jumping”, even with having to use more firmness behind the putts. Downhill- Lookout! The face creates such a quiet and clean contact with the ball, that it does not take much to get the ball moving at all!
     
    On Course- 20/20
    I was able to apply testing to the DB, both on the practice areas and on course play. I’ve deployed hundreds of strokes with this putter. As we all know, real green vs artificial can produce varying results. I am fortunate to have several options in this regard. Over the period of this test, I was able to utilize well maintained practice areas at local courses, as well as indoor rollout mats. (see video link at end of review for demonstrsations)
    I rigorously tested the DB to prove if Odysseys claims of More Forgiveness Across the Face was going to be fact or fiction, and I can assuredly say without a doubt, that these claims are FACT!
    For indoor testing, I had a few training aids to assist me. 2 rollout mats over 8’ long, a perfect roll device, and a putting mirror. Primarily these were used to test shorter putts and judge my distance control. I also performed center, heel, and toe, contact drills indoors. This allowed me to hear just how it sounds during contact in a controlled environment.


     
    I practiced over and over and over using the 2 mats, and the local courses practice areas. Distances varying between 3’ and 50’, from several types of green conditions and different lie positions. Focused putting drills included Center, Heel, and Toe strikes off the putter face. Determinations for each of the tests were also designated for dispersion, ball lag, and using several different brands of balls. I also placed it on several head to head tests against my mallet putter, utilizing the same configurations.


    On Course play became fun again! Regardless of where I was on the green, I was confident in making putts!
    Performance-10/10
    The Odyssey AI-ONE DB putter performed better than I could have anticipated throughout this test. The learning curve to adapt to this putter was unbelievably quick for me! It feels natural in my hands, and has increased my confidence on the course. Their claims of More Forgiveness hold true in my opinion.
     With the mallet putter, it took me a lot of time and practice to gain a confident stroke connection with it. I struggled with it for months, and almost always doubted myself on the green.
     
    Durability- 18/20
    All is not perfect in the world of the DB.  After barely 5 days, the PVD finish along the back edge of the putter began rubbing off. I don’t know why this area has been affected. The head cover does not have any issues inside the liner. It has never been dragged across any surface. And while this doesn’t affect the performance of the putter, it definitely raises a concern for questioning the longevity aspect.

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    In the bag or in the closet? 19/20
    The Odyssey AI-ONE DB putter has earned its place in my bag. Other than the coating finish issue mentioned above, I have zero complaints from the performance of this putter! I suppose the asking price for a premium name brand putter is always going to be a lip biter for most people. This base model starts at $299.00 and is available in stores and directly from the manufacturer. Customization is available for the putter as well. However, options such as grips, shafts, etc, will increase the price. Compared to other major brands out on the market, this pricing seems to place in the middle-upper end. I am not sure if I could justify the cost this early in my golfing experience.
     
    Final Score and Conclusion:  97/100 !
    This is brand new face insert technology in the field of putter manufacturing. Odyssey boasts loudly and proudly its technology is the best out there, and they are not wrong. 
    Did it stand up to its claims? Absolutely!
    I have reduced my average number of 3 putts to less than 10%, and increased my 1 putts by 20%. Who doesn’t love to reduce strokes?
    I don’t have any comparisons to make against any similar high end putters. But I believe that no one will have to think too hard about picking one of these up and keeping it for a long while.
    From its unique “window to the soul” feature, to the integrated AI Insert technology, I was unable to find any particular facet of this putters capabilities deficient.
    I would not hesitate to put it to the test against any putter out there!

     
    Some things to note: because of this test and how involved I dove into it, I was able to correct several issues I was having. I learned so much more than i was anticipating too. I also never knew there were adjustments and modifications available on putters. I have began to enter that phase now. (more to come!)
     
    Thank you to Odyssey and the MGS forum Staff. Thank you MGS members. And thank you to my fellow testers! 
    Want to see all the videos from this test?  ------> CLICK HERE <------ (plus a bonus video for fun)
    And please, feel free to read through the previous pages and pages of fantastic pictures videos and data that all the testers have worked to bring to the community. 
     
     
     
     

     



























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    buckpillar reacted to Willie T in Odyssey Ai-ONE Putters - 2023 Forum Review   
    Most excellent review Rob!  Looks like "DB" has found a new home for sure as it looks to be a great mid-point between blade style and mallet.    
     
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    buckpillar reacted to ZoonORama in Odyssey Ai-ONE Milled Putters - 2023 Forum Review   
    The Review - February 3, 2024
    Odyssey AI-ONE Milled SIX T DB - Official MGS Forum Review by ZoonORama (Keith)
    I am super excited to have been chosen to test the Odyssey Ai-ONE SIX T DB Milled putter. Before all of that, I want to take a minute to introduce myself and what I seek from this test.

    About Me: I am 58 years old and used to play golf regularly. I say “used to” because around 2007 I hurt my back severely and had to take several years off of playing. I made the decision to re-start my golf journey in 2021. My swing, tempo, everything had changed, not to mention the equipment advancements! I play weekends and weekdays in the summer. Really, whenever I can. I have not competed but have played in a few leagues. I am in Ohio so weather can impact playing during the “closed” months of the year and it certainly was challenging for this putter review.
    My game (thus far): My current handicap sits at 14.8 - I struggle for distance from the tee (like most). My iron play has been pretty solid and my short game to the green isn’t too bad. This past year however, I have had several rounds where three putting was happening WAY too often. My current putter is an Odyssey #8 XG White Hot (circa 2007). 
    Testing Methodolgy: I really wanted to get this out on the course and see how it performed head-to-head with my current flat stick however, it was the end of the season and weather was a factor. What I didn't want to do was taint the test by my inability to properly read a green vs. performance of the putter. As such, it made sense for me to do static putting tests to really get the numbers and contrast any differences. This would involve 100 putts from various distances indoors, and distances outdoors from 20, 10, and 6 feet.
    Expectations: I am expecting to see a dramatic difference in how the ball rolls, off center contact vs. consistent distance, and alignment ease. To keep this putter in my bag after the test, it will need to provide more consistency in distance. Basically, this putter needs to provide what is advertised, better overall performance.
    I chose the SIX T DB model after hitting a Sub 70 milled putter. Up until that point, I was using, and liked, the white hot insert type of putter. This test compared the inserts of white hot and milled directly. This particular model looked good to me and had the specifications for how it sets up that is closest to what I am currently using.
    👉 Keep in mind each putter model has differing toe hang degrees. This particular model has 17 degrees of toe hang.
    Unboxing / First Impressions
    Aesthetics (18 out of 20)
    The box was “meh” other than the Callaway stamped on the cardboard. Exactly what you would expect from golf equipment coming via UPS.

    Upon closer inspection I was really impressed with the fit and finish of this putter. The color is more of a cobalt blue than actual navy or dark blue. It is almost smoke or black. In short, I find the color very attractive and easy on the eye.
    The graphics and badging on the putter are not overstated and blend nicely with the overall look. Often, we see products that the brand detracts from the product itself. This is very well executed and keeps the look clean and attractive.

    The quality of the finish, you can see the sole here, is very well done. There are two adjustable weights that can be replaced easily with a torx head driver. No additional weights came with the putter however, as I took a few pokes with it, really didn’t need or want to change them at this time. More on the weights later, as they were unavailable at the time of this testing.

    The grip that is the “standard” is a pistol style. There are options for different grips (too many to name). I wanted to see how this faired with a standard grip since most of my previous motivation to switch on my current gamer, was to stabilize performance. The grip, while more "rounded" than my current gamer, works extremely well. 
    The head cover is good quality, fits well and uses a magnetic closure. The interior is a black faux fur type material that reminds me of the valuables pocket interior of most golf bags. Very plush.

    One of the more interesting aspects, in my option, is the shaft. The AI One comes with a steel shaft that is designed to offer great feedback and feel, which it does. However, the label is gigantic so I will take a few points off for that. They do put the label centered on the underside of the shaft so it isn't visible while putting but still. We all know it will wear and become a sticky mess at some point.

    The milling on the face of the putter is amazing! Not a sharp edge, leftover rough spot or anything was found on very close inspection. The care taken in producing this putter really shows. The milling feels “almost” sharp to the touch and the overall head size is smaller than I am used to using, while the insert appears larger. Very well done.

    Lastly, this thing sets up wonderfully. The putter balance feels natural, with the head not feeling too heavy. The balance point allows for the head to float evenly above the ground with ease.
    First few jabs with this compared to my current gamer really foreshadowed the overall results. Without really lining up the ball, I just walked up, eye balled it, and let it fly. Comparing this to my current gamer the score looked like this:
    Odyssey XG #8 (Circa 2007) = 8 out of 12
    Odyssey AI ONE = 12 out of 12   😱
    Yes, that is correct. Without ever putting one of these before, I drained 12 of 12 first go. 
    And if you are wondering what I have been playing? Here it is for comparison.



    One thing that struck me as very interesting between my current putter and the AI ONE is the size of the head and insert. My old gamer is much longer and the insert is wider, however the sweet spot for solid contact is narrow. The AI ONE is smaller while the insert provides greater area for ball striking with minimal loss of distance. I must admit, I was skeptical about claims of 20+% better distance control but…. well, keep reading.
    The Numbers (20 out of 20)
    So, the practice green at the club had all of the flags removed for the winter season. So, I planted a few tee pegs at 20’, 10’ and 6’ from a target tee peg. The below video is from the 10’ mark. First putt at that distance with the AI ONE. 
    What I was trying to capture (amidst the wind) was the sound of the putter. It is not unpleasant but it does have a distinctive “click” to it. I was using Maxfli Tour X (4 piece) balls. They are a little firmer than the standard Maxfli Tour balls so I expected a little more noise from them going into this. 
    It is much different from my current putter (comparatively) but I don’t think it detracts in the least. At least not to me.
    First, let me just say that I wasn’t expecting anything too crazy different from what I have now. So I was pretty “pre-disposed” to be disappointed overall. Call it my cynical nature but we have all had our hopes dashed at some point by product claims and promises that just don’t pan out (like the tread mill that I thought was supposed to make me taller and better). For this test, I was looking for subtle differences at best.
    The testing I did was rudimentary as a first go. I would putt 9 balls and measure the farthest past the mark (target tee), and a toe and heel hit (offline/distance).

    The results at 20' were….um, surprising. The face of the AI ONE putter was not only hotter than my white hot insert, it was consistent. Mis-hits resulted in closer results (halving) my normal distance on dodgy pokes.
    The results at 10 feet were no different, albeit on a different scale. (You can see from the above video the accuracy of the first putt at 10 feet.)
    But the REAL difference was at 6 feet…..

     One of my recurring problems is in my ability to leave putts too short or dribble them into the hole. Especially at 6 feet and less. The AI ONE putter was very hot off the face at this distance. Every putt at this distance went right past my target tee (putting from left to right in the pic) but not miles past. Just the right amount. The distances ranged between 9.5” to 29.5” past the mark with the majority between 21" and 23.5” past. (also keep in mind a few of these bumped into one another as they brushed past the right side of the tee).
    I thought for sure my current gaming putter would do great, and for the most part, I did hit several into the tee but…..

    Long shots were between 8.5” and 17” over/past the target.
    While this group looks pretty stellar, it was not as consistent as the AI ONE group. Here is why. There was a slight break to the right (and the wind was pushing to the right as well). I was not adjusting my point of aim but rather, going for groups and consistency. Several of my putts with the XG #8 actually hit the tee and pushed out (to the right). That means I pulled them left offline. That is my usual “miss”. Every putt with the AI ONE putter went to the right of the tee, missing it by a few millimeters. Every one. 
    My initial thoughts that this was more marketing than substance was beginning to evaporate right before my eyes.

    My first observations of the AI putter were pretty dramatic. So, I thought I might spend some time with my older putter(s) and just get some practice in before switching back to compare again. You know, the honeymoon syndrome with new equipment. (keeping objectivity) After a few days of ignoring the new putter, I started putting again today on an indoor mat (snowing and ice prevented outdoor testing). I thought I would record my first few shots with the AI putter after a few days of not even holding it. 
    As you can see. No issues whatsoever. The sound and feel are still new to me. It sounds hard but feels soft. While I was testing at the club earlier before the snow, another player tried out the putter and made the same observation. He commented how "soft" it felt off the face. It takes getting used to.
    I completed a series of tests with the AI-ONE SIX putter as the results were very interesting to me. First, the methodology I was using.
    7’ - 100 putts, 5’ - 100 putts, 3’ - 50 putts, 1’ - 25 putts. (5 balls at a time to allow walking back and forth and reset)
    The two putters being used for this are the AI-ONE Milled SIX and White Hot XG #8 blade style. I have always liked blade styles better and really, haven’t even wanted to try a mallet until recently. So, this was a departure from my normal tendencies.


    Each of these has a unique aiming style. I have found the AI-ONE to be VERY easy to set the alignment. And one thing to mention here is that the toe hang is exactly the same between these two putters.


    The performance between these two is no contest. I had originally thought how this might play on the course, which would only really give me about 36+ putts unless I took a little extra time on each green. While I am itching to see how this performs out there on the course, this test was solid in that I had many mis-hit and off center strikes with way more repititions.

    The 1’ mark was a wash. 100% for both, however I did notice some substantial differences that I want to share:
    1. Alignment - alignment was so much easier with the AI-ONE
    2. Consistency - great distance on off center strikes
    3. Feel - AI-ONE - more launch / smooth - little noticeable feel difference for off center strikes. (XG #8 - less launch unless perfect strike - really feel off center hits - less distance)
    Even though I don’t think this style of putter is my "preference", I cannot argue with the results I am seeing.

     
    On-Course - (18 out of 20)
    While I wasn't able to actually scrape the greens of snow and ice in order to game this stick, I did take into consideration the factors that mose plague my game while on the course. The first being alignment. When I stand over a putt, I sometimes feel like I am unsure or aiming can be fuzzy. This is less so with the AI-ONE compared to my current putter. I believe this has a lot to do with the contrast colr and generous aiming line. AS a result, I feel a LOT more confident standing over this putter than my current one (sorry XG#8).
    The second factor for me is distance. I somehow manage to either just dribble the ball into the hole or come up a few inches (or feet) short. This is related to a couple of aspects: Not hitting it hard enough or off-center hits resulting in loss of power. I feel that no matter where I hit this AI-ONE, on the face my distances will be much more consistent. The face seems hotter as well.
    Lastly, decoding the right line to putt to the hole. No putter can help you read the line so I cannot fault the equipment for that aspect. As a result of the testing I did, my confidence with this on course gives it top marks until proven otherwise. I did remove a few points because others who have taken the stick into the real world have indicated the finish could be compromised or damaged just by pulling it in and out of the bag and with regular "expected" use. 
    The good, the bad, the in between - (15 out of 20)
    The Odyssey AI-ONE SIX DB putter is the real deal. When I first saw the claims and technology described in this putter line, I was skeptical. The testing I did individually proved that I was wrong and the putter, actually delivers on the claims. This has me re-thinking my approach to the latest and greatest technology trends in equipment. 
    What I don't like about the putter. The cost. This thing comes in at the price of a custom putter. Retail as of this writing is $449.99 😵!  Does that mean I don't think it is worth it? Well, let's discuss this point. When I first received the putter and realized how much it cost, my first reaction was "No way this is worth what they are asking". However, it does deliver and had I not been able to do so much testing (100s of putts), I would probably just pass by this at my local golf shop without a second thought. I have since changed my mind. For me, and having the experience with this putter, I would absolutely buy it knowing what I do now. After all, you make half of your score with the putter. It is a pretty important scoring club. I did take 2 points off however, because I feel the cost will be a negative factor for many golfers.
    One other item I dislike about the putter is the weight system, but not for the reasons you might think. The weights are a great way to allow you to customize the feel. What I don't like about them is the way they are secured. One screw. And when I removed one of the weights to see how they work, the screw was already loose. This means you might need to check these from time to time or you could lose the weights without knowing it. A wee bit of thread lock might be in order. I would hope they redesign these in the future to have a tab or similar system to help prevent loss. One other note. Mine came with the 10g weights as stock. I had to remove them to see this since it wasn't published anywhere in the specs.
     

    At the time of testing, the weight kits were not available. They have since been made available. And this leads me to why I took an additional 3 points off of my overall score in this section. The cost of the weights. $50 per set!

    Should you want to play around with the weights and find what works best for you, you will need to purchase up to three sets at $50 each, ($150 for all three) just for the weights in 5g, 15g, and 20g respectively. This makes these weights more expensive (per gram) than sterling silver ingots. Luckily, my putter came with 10g weights and they seem perfectly fine for my putting method.
    Play it or Trade it? (20 out of 20)
    This putter has earned a spot in my bag for this season. I will keep my old putter but I doubt it will see much, if any use going forward. The results, feel and overall look of the AI-ONE just gives me so much more confidence over the ball. I do believe the asking price is fair for what you get in performance and I do believe that for those who want to tighten up their putting, this could be a breakthrough. As mentioned early on, my current handicap is 14.8 and I see a tremendous difference with this putter. I think most golfers would benefit from at least trying this putter as part of a fitting. Your mileage may vary. 
    Conclusion
    The Odyssey AI-ONE Six DB putter is a winner. As a first generation of this new type of flat stick, I see this as game changing. I was a skeptic and now I am a believer. This putter is extremely consistent in distance, very forgiving and easy to align with the target. The feel off the face is soft even though the milling offers a subtle "click" at impact. The balance and roll is both smooth and without effort. The finish and branding is pleasing and has exceptional contrast with the putting surface.
    Final Score (91 out of 100) 
     
    One last thing...
    I would like to thank MyGolfSpy for the awesome opportunity to participate in this testing. Through this test, I have changed my perspective on golf equipment technology and how it benefits my game. Who knew?!
    For those of you reading this that may have just found MGS...... If you haven't taken the time to browse the user forums, please do. The level of knowledge and sharing with forum members has been nothing less than astounding. And remember, the product reviews that you find here are by golfers like you (and me). The good and the bad. Real observations and truth. This test has me uber interested now in the testing that other members will be doing on the latest drivers that recently dropped. Again, I am a skeptic but I cannot wait to see what those results might be and I hope to see some of you following that was well. The results could be interesting (and personally expensive) 💰.
    Cheers! ⛳
     
     
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    buckpillar reacted to Preeway in Odyssey Ai-ONE Milled Putters - 2023 Forum Review   
    FINAL REVIEW 2/4/2024
    Greetings fellow spies! Super excited to be chosen to be a part of the testing group for the new Ai putters from Odyssey. A little bit about myself.
    Who Am I: Greetings. My name is Chris and I live in a suburb west of Omaha, NE. I was born and raised in Oregon and eventually moved to the Midwest because, well, I wanted to stay married. My wife is from Omaha and all her family is here and after we met and got married in Seattle, WA it was clear that my days in the PNW were numbered. I’ve been a regular here on the forum since I joined about a year ago and enjoy sharing in everyone’s experiences both on and off the course.

    I’m sharing a picture the 4 putters I’ve used off and on over the years. I currently game the Bettinardi BB1 milled face putter and while not the world’s biggest fan, I have become very comfortable with it and tend to put very well. It found it’s way into my bag after seeing it for sale on the Costco website and was able to get it for a measly $20 with all the gift cards I had at the time. My son was about to start his freshman golf season and I gave him the option of gaming my Scotty Newport or taking a new Bettinardi. I was really certain he would choose a new putter but he’s pretty savvy and he chose the Scotty. Prior to the Scotty I had used a PING Anser for 30 years going back to my high school days. The Odyssey Two Ball putter was something I got cheap on a whim and it never really worked for me. So until I got the Scotty I was a PING Anser guy.

    As you can see, I’ve been a blade putter guy all my life. This last couple years I’ve been feeling like I needed something different from a putter. I wasn’t putting poorly but I wasn’t putting the ball as well as I liked either. I was looking at some different options from Scotty Cameron, Mizuno and PING last spring but chose to ride out what I currently had in the bag. I’m excited to test out the new technology from Odyssey and to do it in a model that I’ve been wanting to try for quite some time.
    About my game: My handicap at the start of the 2023 season was a 6 and I ended the season at a 3. I attribute much of my game improvement on being fitted for new irons and spending a lot of time working my short game. My GIR percentage was up from 2022 and my three putts were lower. Better approach shots contributed much to these stats and my ability to hit better chips led to more up and downs. Not all was rosy as I struggled much of the year with missing a lot of makable putts and struggling to adapt my stroke on slower greens.
    My main area of focus in testing will be my ability to control the swing with this putter. Most of my misses with my current putter come from pushing the ball right or leaving it short. Controlling the swing path on longer putts and controlling the putter face on shorter putts will be two of the bigger areas of focus as I test out this putter and compare it to my Bettinardi. In order for this putter to replace my current gamer it will have to deliver more consistent outcomes and have the same or better feel hitting the ball.
    What I’m looking for: I’m most eager to see if there is a significant difference in the milling compared to my Bettinardi and my Scotty. What did Ai do that is different or better? I’m also looking to see if there is any significant difference in non-center face hits compared to my Bettinardi. One of my biggest putting weaknesses is making solid contact on longer putts thereby causing longer second putts and missing mid range putts due to non center contact and coming up short.
    Looking forward to receiving the Seven T CH and posting my initial feedback!

     
    First Impressions - 12/8/23 - 20/20
    My Odyssey Ai-One 7 T CH arrived midday on 12/7 but alas, I was forced to wait until I got home from work to pick it up from the UPS Store near my house. The package was in pristine condition, and inside there was plenty of protective packaging to ensure nothing went wrong.

    Upon opening the package the first thing I noticed was the SuperStroke Synergy Tour 2.0 grip I requested but wasn’t sure if I could get. Big shout out to @GolfSpy BOS for coming through like a champ! I love the feel of this grip and it’s going to greatly enhance the testing experience for sure.

    After taking it out of the box, I stood over a couple of practice putts on my putting mat and I was immediately able to better stand with my eyes over the ball compared to my Bettinardi.

    Maybe its the 34” length versus the 34.5” length of my Bettinardi? Can’t yet say for sure but I can tell my posture is in a better position. I will be checking my putting posture compared to my Bettinardi using a putting mirror as part of my testing process to compare how well I’m able to get my eyes over the ball with each putter. 
    Aesthetics - 12/8/23 - 10/10
    Straight out of the box, this putter is a sure fire 10! The navy blue PVD finish looks even better in person than it does on the web.


    The white alignment line paired with the two lines on the fangs allow me to visibly notice whether the stroke of the putter is off line or not as it rocks back and forth. Initially, I like this, but I’ll be curious to see if this serves as a benefit or a distraction when I get out to the range and start hitting putts.
    The gold titanium insert is a great color choice and pairs well with the blue giving a really good look. Not sure yet if this will in more consistent putts but it looks great coming out of the cover and anything to possibly distract my playing partners is great in my book.


    The putter cover isn’t anything fancy but again, Odyssey has a great color scheme and overall design. The putter head fits easily inside and the magnetic closure is solid. I’m glad it’s magnetic rather than velcro as I find magnetic closures remain in working order for longer periods of time.

    The last detail I want to point out is the difference in the milling compared to my Bettinardi. While the pattern is very similar, the oval loop pattern is noticeably larger on the Odyssey.

    I am still reading and learning about this new Ai line of putters has me wondering if this different pattern is part of the Ai design and if it will lead to any noticeable changes in the feel and/or effectiveness.
    Looking forward to getting outside very soon to put this bad boy to work!
    The Numbers 9/10
    I really wanted to get on the course a few times to see how the Odyssey fared in the wild but Mother Nature had other plans. My last round played was the Monday before Thanksgiving and by the time the putter arrived a couple weeks later, courses were closed most of the time due to cold temps so my options were too few to make it out. We have just recently begun to thaw out so hopefully I will be adding to this review in the next few weeks once the courses allow foot traffic again.
    For my review, all of my data is composed of indoor session on my putting mat or at the putting green at my local course. I took advantage of as many opportunities as I could to sneak in 20-60 minutes at a time when the weather cooperated.
    My first test was looking at putts hit intentionally off the heel and toe from 6' and 10' on my putting mat. I really wanted to test the forgiveness of off center strikes compared to my Bettinardi

    After practicing my stroke from 6' for about 5 minutes to get my stroke dialed in I went ahead and captured the results of three putts made with a center strike. The picture above shows the grouping off three such putts.

    The next round was putting with mishits near the toe. The picture above captured a normal grouping of three off center putts. You can see the variation from center strikes to toe strikes was very minimal. This was just the first of many series of tests that showed that Ai-One was going to deliver on the marketing promises being made.
    My next testing session was at my nearby practice green rolling putts from 15'. 

    After having ample time to get the line and speed figured out I wasn't surprised to be able to make at least 2 out of 5 putts, sometimes 3 or even 4 out of 5, with the Odyssey. The Bettinardi was a different matter however.

    While I am normally fine with my 15 foot putts missing close as pictured, it was quite obvious which putter was better. Knowing I will have the ability to make more putts in this range has me amped to get out on the course soon to put it to the real test. One of my goals for 2024 is to finally break par for 18 holes and shoring up my putting game will go a long way to making that happen.
    On The Course - 18/20
    This is one aspect of the test that has left me feeling very incomplete. There were only a couple of opportunities with courses open but they always fell on days where I had other conflicts. So for these numbers I am relying on my days on the practice green testing at various distances as shared above.
    I also had a testing day a few days ago after all the recent snow had melted away. The course wasn't ready for foot traffic yet but they did have the practice area open. I only had about 30 minutes of good daylight and it was already down to 35º so I had to be fairly quick in my method. I decided to go for lag putts from 50' to see how both putters faired head to head. I found a line that was slightly uphill with about 3 feet of break from left to right. My only regret here was not being able to get video as I didn't have my mini tripod with me at the time.
    After putting for about 5 minutes to get a feel for the speed and line, I went ahead and rolled 10 putts with the Odyssey. All 10 missed with average distance to cup of 3'10". I then proceeded to roll 10 putts with the Bettinardi with all 10 missing with an average distance to cup of 6'2". This was perhaps the most telling of all the tests I completed since this distance was the biggest putting challenge I have. Taking longer swings with my putter typically leads to more off center strikes and as a result more three putts. If these results can pan out on the course then the score I've assigned will truly hold up. Odyssey has a strong reputation for making some of the best putters out there and this new line of putters is no excpetion. I would have given it 20/20 but since I have yet to get on the course I felt it was best to knock off a few points for now.
    The good, the bad, the in between - 16/20
    The Ai-One 7 T CH is definitely a model to be taken seriously. All of the pre-release hype had me keenly interested but still just a tad skeptical. When I put my name in to be considered as a tester I was genuinely interested in knowing whether the new technology was anything more than just hype. 
    One of the bigger downsides for this putter is the cost. the base cost of $450 is higher than any putter I've ever considered before. I typically view my top end for spending on a putter at $300-$350. This is probably why I've never seriously considered buying a Scotty Cameron new, LOL. Given the current state of new high end putters though, the price does seem to fall in line with all the others. Still, I've taken 2 points off for base price.
    The next area I've deducted points is for the weight kit. The weights weren't available right away and it wouldn't have mattered if they were. With a price of $50 for each weight, you could be looking at $600 when it's all said and done for the putter if you were looking to make any additional adjustments on your own. I will be waiting to see if generic brands make compatible weights sometime soon as I would like to tinker with the weights to see if any fine tuning is needed to get it completely dialed in. Minus 2 points here.
    Play It Or Trade It - 20/20
    Hands down, this putter will start the 2024 season in my bag. From the very first moment I gripped the first putt taken on a putting green, everything about this putter screams high class. The base price while quite expensive, is still on par with other higher end models. The alignment aids on the putter are very helpful and yet sharp at the same time. I see the 7 T CH being a good fit for golfers of all handicap levels.
    Conclusion
    I want to thank MGS and the admins for selecting me again to be a tester. This was again a very rewarding experience and I take my responsibility to the members of this forum very seriously. I wish I would have had the opportunity to get on the course and play during my two months with the putter but it just didn't happen. I will certainly be adding to this thread over the next 3-6 weeks as it appears some courses will allowing foot traffic real soon. If you are in the market for a new putter, any of the new Ai-One models should be among those being considered. 
    My final score - 93/100
    A little bonus footage me putting my the 7 T CH
     
     



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    buckpillar reacted to fixyurdivot in Odyssey Ai-ONE Milled Putters - 2023 Forum Review   
    Introduction
    Hello Spies and thanks for checking out the Odyssey AI One Milled Putter product test reviews!  My name is Bill and I have been a member of MGS sine June 2018.  I stumbled onto the website while doing searches for new irons; never having heard of My Golf Spy before.  If memory serves, it was a product review on the Srixon Z585's.  Poking down through the website, I subsequently found several of the annual "Most Wanted" reviews and really liked the format.  Club performance data generated by a nice cross-section of handicaps... as opposed to data heavily weighted using near scratch golfers... what a concept!! 
    It wasn't until a week or so later that I saw we had a forum.  Having tried a couple of other golf forums and finding one sort of okay, and another which I did not like at all, I found MGS to be a superb group of folks and have truly enjoyed my time here. I know some members in-person but even those I've yet to meet feel like long time friends.
    @Kenny B and his lovely wife Martha when they visited us in Yuma, AZ

    Kenny, Martha and Chris (@Thin2win) at Circling Raven, ID, during our 2020 PNW Spy Meet

    I was introdiced to the game by my Dad at age 6 and played in the JGA in Ft. Lauderdale, FL for several years before we relocated out west.  While I always played as the years rolled along, there were periods where military, college, and my career with Boeing limited me to a dozen or so rounds per year.  After retiring in 2016 and relocating to Montana (the golf capital of the world 😆), I split my time between flyfishing and golf.  Between home in MT and wintering in Yuma, AZ, I was playing about 70 rounds/year.  
    Mode of travel on the Madison River

    Mode of travel here in Surprise, AZ

    We have sinced re-located to Sun City Grand (now The Grand) in Surprise, AZ and I am playing ~120 rounds per year on the 4 championship courses we have in our "active adult" community. While I have returned my golf game back to a lifetime PB (7.7 index), I am still better with a 5 weight flyrod than I am with a 5 iron 😊.
    During my tenure with MGS,  I have been fortunate to have been selected to test a handful of products.  I am still playing the PING G410P and the Evnroll ER5v.  But, as is the case for most of us golfers, the quest for that magic putter seems to always lurk in our minds... even when we think the one we're rolling is "the one".  So this is what peaked my interest in the latest Odyssey putters.  In particular is the Artificial Intellegence (AI) face insert... purportedly offering more consistenty across the face.  A more forgiving putter?  Sign me up 👍.
    I'm really excited about testing this putter and will be doing a H2H comparison against my Evnroll ER5V. 

    I will be using a strokes gained test format that I employed when I tested the Evnroll against my now retired Ping B61.  This test format is a version of one Tony Covey and staff employed on most wanted tests. 
    So let the putts start rolling and the data lead us to a result/decision 😍.

    Package Open/First Impressions  (18 of 20)
    I received my putter yesterday afternoon and got so caught up waiting for the UPS truck to arrive, I missed the "testers conference call" 🙃.  I had it in my head that it was this afternoon... the perils of being retired and keeping calendars.  I resisted opening the box until today so that the "official reveal" was... well... official.  I am so bad at these 🫣.
    I believe all of the putters arrived for all testers yesterday and that is for sure the fastest order to arrival of any product tests I've done.  The folks at Callaway made quick work of getting these out.  The box was received in good condition and the putter, with headcover on, was framed/protected by an internal cardboard divider.  In addition to the P.O., a small specification card was provided.

    My first impressions were quite positive.  The head was a bit smaller than I expected, but not overly so.  This is among their mallet style, high MOI designs and it looks like they have found a nice balance of offering added forgiveness without getting excessively large.  It also feels a bit lighter than my Evnroll but I plan to get my gram scale out and compare.
    Aesthetics (9 of 10)
    The machine workmanship is very good and I really like the white alignment lines - quite bold.  The PVD Navy/Steel Blue with the Gold AI insert face is sharp... and I'm not just saying that because I'm a Notre Dame fan.  The engraved logo's also find a good balance of pop without being overdone.

    The "Stroke Lab" shaft has a pretty large label which takes up about half the length of the shaft.  The only issue I have with these is that they tend to get scraped up over time going in & out of the bag.

    The Odyssey grip I chose is the OD-PT-Q4 Pistol.  It most closely matched the style I have now and that I really like. It's a nice looking grip that matches the colors on the head.  It feels a little softer and slicker than I'm using.  I also note that it is about an inch shorter.  That had my left hand low forefinger extending below the grip and onto the shaft.  I'll be interested to see how this feels while putting.

    The headcover is very nicely made and also has the same colors.  Again, the swen logo's offer a nice balance of pop without being too much (for my taste). The inside has a velvet-like fabric for added protection and the magnetic flap snaps positively into place.


    If you have any questions or want more details, please let me know.  Now it's time this putter rolls balls... lots of balls 👍. 
    Okay, had a chance after my round this morning (worked hard for an 81) to test out the putter on the green.  It was a cold morning with a north wind from 7-15mph... so the practice area was a ghost town.  Retired people, living in AZ, have a low tolerance for "adverse" weather 😆.
    OMG, what a difference in feel than my ER5v.  Much more pronounced "click" and softer... or so my mind thinks. This being the first "insert face" style putter I've tried, it feels much different but in a good way. 
    Before I get started on the H2H, strokes gained test, I'll spend at least one session putting the wagon wheel locations around the hole from the 3 distances.  This should give me a good feel/baseline and make the comparison more evenly matched.





    The Numbers (10 of 10)
    Arguably the most important portion of testing clubs; how does the product effect the ability to get the ball from tee into the hole. I really had fun doing this part of the review.  I completed the strokes gained test matrix I described in this post. A total of 450 putts between the Odyssey and my Evnroll.  After crunching the data, here are the results.

    As my time on the green suggested to me, this was going to be a very close contest. The Seven T proved itself more accurate overall; slightly better in the 5 and 20 foot distance and the ER5v slightly better at the 10 foot distance.  Ultimately, the SG testing suggests the Odyssey might offer me  just over a half stroke better scoring.  No doubt, had I tested this against my previous gamer (Ping B61), I'm certain it would offer something over one stroke gained per round.
    As I mentioned in a couple of my progress/update posts, I find the Seven T CH to be a great feeling putter that inspires confidence.  Distance control is very good as is stability - particularly on those long lag, big backstroke, off-center strikes.
    While not part of the SG tests, I did spend some time putting from the apron.  I did not notice any loss in my ability to move the ball across the longer grass and was able to judge distance pretty well.  
    Regarding "forgiveness", this is the principle design feature of the Artificial Intellegence (AI) faces.  These face inserts are not of a constant cross-section but rather of varying thickness.  The final design of these is based on thousands and thousands of data points that capture where players of all capability tend to miss-strike the ball.  Instead of these toe and heel side hits yielding less than optimum control of distance and path, the AI face compensates, lessening the adverse effect of off-center strikes.  Here is more detail on this feature from Johnny Wunder.
    In a period of time where the term AI often tends to simply be a buzz marketing tool, this approach by the Callaway/Odyssey design team makes perfect sense! Hats off to them 👏.

    That said, my attempts to verify this forgiveness on shorter to moderate length putts fell a bit short.  Try as I might, I just could not control strike force accurately enough to see a measureable difference.  However, there have already been some independent test labs who have employed putting robots, and they have demonstrated benefits of the AI face tecnology.  You can check those tests and results here.
    Several articles I read about these new putters spoke about the improvement offered for getting more long lag putts closer to the hole more often.  Being closer to the hole on those second putts is always a good thing - increasing the odds of making that next putt.
    So, I decided to do a smaller scale test to see if this was true of the Odyssey and to what extent it offered improvement over my gamer.  Here is a description of that test, and here are the results.


    1.7 inches doesn't sound like much, but if one subscribes to the "closer is always better" axiom, it could be the difference in more second putt makes.
    On the Course (20 of 20)
    I now have 5 rounds completed with the Odyssey and finding the putter to have all the prowess it showed on the practice green during tests.  I like the look at address on it a little better than the Evnroll.  The bold white alignment marks on the top rail and the talons (which envelope the face insert) are very easy to see and focus on. They sort of "frame" the ball which aids in set-up.
    Honestly, two of the rounds were among my worst in the past few months but it did not have anything to do with the putter.  I contribute those to my less than stellar wedge and short chips.  I might argue that the Odyssey helped keep those scores from being worse 🤪.
    The Good, Bad, and In-between (17 out of 20)
    So the good is that the AI face technology is absolutely not marketing baloney but rather well thought out design.  While truth in advertising is not law here in the USA, rest assured there is truth in how the new faces improve putter performance.
    The bad is that I'm already starting to see burnishing/wear of the PVD coating on the leading, bottom edge.  I really haven't seen any OEM products offering these colored coatings survive that well. Being this is a putter and I'm quite careful of how I handle, use, and store clubs, I was a bit surprised by the quick wear.  For many (normal people 😆), this is no issue but for those of us who suffer from how our clubs look OCD... well, it's something to consider.

    The in-between is that the handle I ordered is about 1/2" shorter than my gamer.  With my left hand low grip style, this has my left forefinger struggling to stay on the grip and not onto the shaft.  It dosen't seem to adversely effect my putting numbers but just feels a bit odd.  I might also throw in that the sticker on the shaft, is quite long and I suspect will start getting scarred up pretty quick if one is not careful moving it in/out of the bag.  Again, just a cosmetic thing for those who care about such things.
    Play it or Trade it  (18 of 20)
    After 18 rounds with the Seven T CH, I have decided it will be my primary gamer.  I say primary because the ER5v is still a fantastic performer for me and it's great having two flat sticks to draw from.  For those that followed my update posts, I experienced a couple of bad rounds with the Odyssey and decided to bench it for a couple of rounds.  I knew those performances were more archer than arrow but being able to swap out putters was a nice option.  
    But ultimately, I like the feel and look at address of the Odyssey a little better than the Evnroll.  Also, I'm going with the SG and lag putt tests from the head to head testing.  There is nothing like having your own data help make the final decision.
    Conclusion 
    So here's my key take-away/conclusion about the Odyssey AI milled insert putters - they are the real deal!  That's right folks, no overblown, long on promises and short on performance marketing hype here... but rather well thought out and developed technology that improves putting consistency.  
    As you can see from my various testing, the numbers support the claims.  While we may not be talking big differences, they are improvements nonetheless.  I will gladly take an additional 0.67 strokes gained and lag putts nearly 2 inches closer to the hole.  
    With all the various models Odyssey offers, in both the milled and non-milled face, one can most definitely pick the best one for their particular putting stroke and feel.  From there, the AI magic is already "built-in" and is based on data from users like you and me.  That's right, where we tend to mishit, they added help... you just gotta love simple, eloquent design approaches to problems and improvement.
    I want to conclude by once again thanking the folks at Odyssey and our MGS staff for this test opportunity.  I hope my testing has provided good information for anyone interested in Odyssey's latest line of putters.  As always, if you have questions, please do ask in the thread or send me an IM.  Thanks for following along!
    Final Score (92 of 100)
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    buckpillar reacted to Q22Golf in Odyssey Ai-ONE Milled Putters - 2023 Forum Review   
    Thank you for the initial reviews! I am looking forward to updates as you play!
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    buckpillar reacted to TJ Hall in Odyssey Ai-ONE Milled Putters - 2023 Forum Review   
    Nice review @Willie T…feel a little bad for Versa watching your video, but happy to see Millie found a spot in your bag!
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