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    BunnyG reacted to HeathS16 in Vokey SM10 Wedges - 2024 Forum Review   
    Hello again fellow spies! I am back for what I think is my 7th test for MGS.  A quick thank you to the forum and the fine people over at Titleist for the opportunity to test out the SM10s from Vokey. A few things have changed since my last test both in my work life as well as my golf game.  I am now the head golf coach at Edmond Memorial High School here in Oklahoma. 

    I am also proud to say that I have pretty much unlimited access to Trackman as I co-own an indoor golf place.  Considering I now coach golf and have a golf business, I think it is finally safe to say that I am a golf addict at this point in my life. Considering I have been playing this wonderful game since my freshman year of college. The only difference now being that I am a full time teacher/coach and a full-time dad. That being said, my golf game is in a bit of a transition. As a former college athlete I desperately want to get into the competitive side of golf. For the last 2 seasons I have tried my hand at some small tournaments here in Oklahoma as well as a Ryder Cup Style event in June.
     

    With tournament golf in mind going into this test here are my thoughts prior to testing.  Titelist is a brand name tied to excellence in the golf community. Vokey is one of the very reasons that Titleist equipment has such an aura about them.  It has been a wedge brand that, for most of my golfing journey, I thought was too elite for a golfer of my caliber.  I have never hit Vokey wedges before, so expect this to be a bit of a spiritual experience. 
    My plan is to test in a pretty traditional sense, since I will have access to a Trackman anytime, you will probably see a lot of data. I have 10 free rounds anytime from now until the end of August at my usual course and hopefully will have the SM10s before a 4 day golf trip to Branson in June so there should be plenty of on course testing as well.  Another idea I am fond of is an only-wedges round from the front tee box.  The thinking behind this is that I would find myself in TONS of scrambling situations and in between shots that in a normal 18-hole round. The hope is that I would have to be more creative, use more of the bounce on the wedges and really get to see if they could handle that kind of shot making.
    Before I sign off here is the swing currently and the handicap as it sits today: 

    Looking at what Vokey and Titelist are saying about the SM10s I will be focusing on the grinds (which I hope will help me on these Oklahoma grasses) and spin.  The main point I got from reading the ads and the Titleist video was that these wedges will be scoring weapons and will allow a player to better control their ball and theoretically lead to more scoring chances. If I can feel as though I am more in control of my golf ball and get consistent performance out of the SM10s they will not leave my bag for a long time. 
     

    Swing as of 5_12_24.mp4  
    All in all, I have tested only 1 Titleist product before, the TSi 3 driver.  While that test was huge, Titelist wasn’t really known for their drivers then.  So the expectations were somewhat muted.  With the Vokey SM10s however, the expectations are very high.  Vokey is a name synonymous with excellence and premium performance; I cannot wait to see if they live up to the hype. 
    Fitting Experience: Kickingbird Golf Course, Edmond OK.
    I was very luck to have my fitting experience with Chris Perkins here in Edmond, Oklahoma. Chris and I have known each other for several years so I felt very comfortable during the process which really helped me hit good shots lol.  Chris was even kind enough to let me interview him after the fitting for a few minutes about Vokey wedges and what sets them apart! (I will include that with my final review). 
     
    Like others have mentioned we started with my current wedges and warmed up with different types of shots to different targets.  From there we moved into the fitting using the Titleist Wedge tool.  It had me hit a series of 3 shots for each setup and the app would make suggestions based on the Trackman data shown.  After the first series we went with the first suggested setup.  50 degree wedge, 8 degrees of bounce in the F grind.  After 3 shots Chris switched it out for the 12 bounce version which produced some very good shots.  He basically said that the club head wasn't exiting the ground at the proper time on full shots and that my delivery would need more bounce, thus the 50 degree with 12 degrees of bounce became my fitted club. 

    Next we went into the full/partial shots with the 54 and the 58.  I don't want to mess with a 60 as I find it hard to hit sometimes.  We did the same process except this time, Chris went with the Trackman/wedge tool for the first 3 shots but the remaining 9 shots he simply watched my delivery and impact.  This is where I think a trained eye makes such a difference as Chris was able to utilize technology to confirm what he was seeing. This is also the part of the fitting that I noticed the biggest difference between the vokey SM10s and my current wedges (more on that to come). Essentially, this was a very fun expereience where I learned ALOT.  My final setup that will be ordered is as follows: 

    I cannot wait to get these in my hands and get going on exploring the Vokey brand!! 
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    BunnyG reacted to snoopy79 in Vokey SM10 Wedges - 2024 Forum Review   
    Snoop79 Bio:
    As I read through the notifications on my phone I suddenly did a big fist pump and proclaimed “Let’s go!!!” which subsequently startled my wife in the other room. That was my reaction to finding out I was one of the testers for the Titleist Vokey SM10 Wedges. Sorry, not sorry lol. 
    Hi everyone! My name is Mike Beagles aka @Snoopy79 and I am honored and excited (obviously) to be one of the testers. A huge thank you to MGS and all the moderators who set up these tests and all the support they provide.
    A little about me, I am 44 living in SW Ohio with my wife and teenage son. I signed up with MGS almost 1 year ago when I got back into golf. Prior to that I had about an 8 year hiatus while my son was young, I was traveling a lot for work, and taking care of our new house. A friend invited me to attend The Memorial PGA tournament and after this I was hooked again. I work from home which provides me a great work/life balance and affords me the opportunity to enjoy the things that matter to me with my family and friends. In addition to golf I love to bowl (mostly in the winter), go fishing, hiking, and watch minor-league baseball games.
     
    Now let's talk golf! I consider myself an average golfer mid-handicapper with a tenacious drive to get better. I broke 90 regularly last year so while I am not strong in all areas, I can move the ball fairly well. It’s funny, prior to my hiatus I played a fair amount of golf, but never took it that seriously. Now I am obsessed! I devour everything golf; equipment articles, instruction, lessons, YT video, PGA, podcasts, etc. I am really learning more about this great game everyday and practicing as much as I can. My wedge play is okay. This year I have a plan for intense focus on this part of my game.
    My golf swing 7-iron

    Mike_7i - Made with Clipchamp.mp4 Swing Info (will update soon)
    Driver swing speed avg: 100mph 7-iron swing speed avg: 87 Swing type: Smooth Typical ball flight with iron/wedge: medium height w/ slight left to right…sometimes too much! Casually obsessed golfer with competitive aspirations.  So what’s the plan for this test?

    Believe it or not I have never hit a Vokey wedge before this test. It’s true. Until just a few days ago a friend of mine let me borrow his SM9 52 degree while I was traveling. It was an interesting experience.
    I am going into this test with the following goals that will contribute to this overarching question, “Will custom fit Vokey SM10s help to measurably improve my short game, allowing me to score better?”
    Learn about the Vokey pedigree and all technology in the SM10 & what does a wedge fitting look like? How much spin can I get with the SM10? (full swing, partial swing, around the green) Will I gain strokes in my short game with SM10s vs. my current gamers? What about you MGS nation? What types of tests & questions do you want me and the other testers to think about? I want to involve you as we take on this journey so please share if you have some thoughts.
    That’s it for now, spies! Stay tuned to this thread!!
    Unboxing the Vokey SM10
    Alright, the Vokey’s are on deck! After my fitting I had received an email from Titleist detailing my specs and then a separate email that had the ordering information and a link to follow the order progress. 
    When I got back from running an errand I was greeted by these bad boys, the gnomes in the flower pots, who were guarding the delivery from Titliest like sentry guns outside a fortification. Good job gentlemen! 

    I figure most folks know what a Vokey looks like already and have ogled or bought a few at the local golf shop. Their design is renowned. Be that as it may, for those uninitiated or anyone just curious as to what an order through the Titleist fitter is like I am happy to share my experience.
    Upon opening the box up I was greeted with your typical brown wrapping paper and a packing list. The clubs were situated in the box with some cardboard separators that would keep them from banging around during shipment. I picked up the box and moved it around multiple times and never heard anything in the box moving.

     

    The club heads are individually wrapped in plastic and then placed in bubble wrap as well. This does a good job protecting them because the nickel finish looks perfect! Seriously, really pleased with the finish. No nicks, scrapes, or any cosmetic imperfections. The Titleist team got everything correct from the fitting. They include a pick list in the box for reference, but I knew just looking at them that the loft, grind, and bounce are all exact matches. 

     
    I went with the MCC+4 mid-size grips in blue for this test. I been experimenting a bit with larger grips on my long clubs, specifically the JumboMax Tour series, and have had superb results. So I figured I would go with the larger size on the wedges and take a chance. I didn’t want to go full Bryson DeChambeau so this was my next step. These MCC+4 have less taper towards the bottom of the grip. Holding these at setup and making practice swings I can already appreciate the weight and feel of this combo. Already I am loving what I see at address with the SM10 at address.



    And here is a picture of the grips.

    That’s it for now, spies. Now the testing fun begins! Let’s get it.
    Testing Posts
    Test 1 & 2 (Pitch Shots) - https://forum.mygolfspy.com/topic/64494-vokey-sm10-wedges-2024-forum-review/?do=findComment&comment=1082019
     
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    BunnyG reacted to MIGregB in Vokey SM10 Wedges - 2024 Forum Review   
    I want to thank My Golf Spy and Titleist for this tremendous testing opportunity! I can’t tell you how excited and nervous I am to bring you an informative test that you find valuable and maybe even entertaining.

    Me, my wife, my oldest son & his family

    Both sons, middle & right, & a friend at 2002 WM Open
    A bit about myself. I’m retired from the IT/Engineering consulting industry where I spent the last 30 years of my working life. I’m married to my wife of 53+ years, with two sons and three grandchildren. My wife and I live in SE Michigan, with a summer home on a small lake in mid-Michigan, but our kids live in Phoenix and Long Beach. You’d think with those warm weather connections that I’d get to play a lot of winter golf. But the reality is that we only spend about 4 or 5 weeks a year out west during the colder months, and we spend most of that time with the kids/grandkids since we don’t get to see them often enough. That means that I only get 2 or 3 rounds in while out there.

    2022 WM Open, that's Hideki in the background!
    But for my 70th birthday, my youngest son treated me to a week-long pass to the 2022 WM Open in Phoenix. It is quite a spectacle!! 

    Full disclosure: This is a general pic! I've misplaced the one with me, but I'll find it!
    One very memorable round out west, though, was at Torrey Pines. I admit that I didn’t expect to have a great round my first time out, I just hoped to not have a bad round. Unfortunately, it was closer to a terrible round. But it is a beautiful course!
    I’m in my early-70s now and have been playing golf for more than 45 years. I wish I had taken lessons early and often, but it took the advent of media golf content and easy access to instruction to get me curious and ambitious enough to improve. I currently play to a 10.5 hdcp, however I feel that’s overly generous. I’m not trying to be modest; my regular play is in a senior’s league where the mostly 70+ crowd plays from pretty short tees.

    About a third of the usual suspects at the Tuesday league.
    I’m fortunate to still be reasonably flexible and decently long (for my age) that results in short approach shots into par 4’s & 5’s, so I have a little better hdcp than it should be. And while I believe that I am still waaaay too mediocre for the amount of time I put in playing and practicing, I can honestly say that I’m a much better golfer today than I ever was – considerably shorter, but technically better.
    I usually get to play 36 holes per week. I’m most comfortable driving the ball although both my overall & performance averages dropped in 2023 more than getting another year older justified, IMHO. So I did a lot of work over the winter on sequencing and a bit on speed, and I also picked up a new driver. Together, at least in range sessions and the few rounds so far this year, it looks like I’ve gotten back the lost distance and perhaps even added a few yards.
    I bought my 1st set of clubs with a big $110 windfall from my one and only craps table adventure at a Bachelor’s Party back in the late 1970’s (a lot of sudden cash for a young family man just starting out!!). I used the money to buy a used set of custom-built Wilson Julius Boros model forged blades.

    Wilson Julius Boros 6 iron
    Being custom-built meant they were “special” clubs to my knuckle-headed self. And they were… to the original owner! Other than being nearly 2" too short and, of course, serious blades, they were terrific.

    Looking at the JB 6i next to my current JPX919 6i, I can’t imagine why they failed me so spectacularly! It took several years of struggle to realize they were completely inappropriate for me.
    My first “new” set of clubs were off-the-rack Tommy Armor 845’s. They really were nice clubs and have since become the hand-me-down set for family members getting their feet wet into golf. Over the years I also played Hogan Medallions (fitted, but not well), Hogan Apex Plus+ (beautiful perimeter weighted forging), Mizuno JPX825 (fitted), and my current Mizuno JPX919 HM with off-the-rack Vokey SM9 54.12D & 58.08M wedges. I don’t think my next iron set will be much of a “set”. The top end of the bag has become hybrid irons and higher lofted fairway woods, and I just started researching to add a non-set wedge & gap wedge when this tremendous Vokey opportunity came up. Perfect timing!!
    5/12/2024 Update: Test Plan
    So, why is this test perfect timing? Boy… where do I start.

    My current JPX919HM 45 deg PW and 50 deg GW, SM9 54 S & 58 L wedges.  
    I currently game an off-the-shelf SM9 54.12D & 58.08M, both with stock wedge shafts selected as much by what was available as what was right for me, and a JPX919 50 deg set gap wedge. I really like how the Vokey’s perform when I manage to hit them well. But I too often hit fat or dig in too much on fairway and shots around the green at the softer courses I play in Michigan. Is some of that due to bad bounce/grind selections?

    The online Titleist Wedge Selector says that I have the correct 54 deg wedge which leads me to believe that I need to work harder on technique. But I’m anxious to see what the Titleist Premier Fitter says. Other than for very short-sided bunker shots, I always use this wedge out of the sand and I’m reasonably successful at it. I can’t say that I leave myself a lot of close sand-save opportunities, but it’s rare that I don’t escape. I do see a variety of roll-outs, though, with which I’m hoping the new SM10 features (CG and groove improvements) will address.
    The selector tool recommends a very different version for the lob wedge, a 58.14K. The K grind has their highest bounce with a wide sole and enhanced camber which they say is “for players requiring forgiveness in a wide full sole”. Oh-oh, sounds a lot like training wheels! But I’ll take all the help I can get. Again, what will the Premier Fitter say?
    The gap wedge is where I’m the most curious. I’ve never been happy with any set gap wedge so I don’t know why it’s taken me all these years to pull the trigger on one. I literally just took delivery on an SM9 50.08F when I got word of my selection for this test - who knew!!! Again, I had to settle for what was available which is different from the Selector tool recommendation, a 50.12F. Fortunately, I was able to return the SM9.
    Here’s the link to a really good Titleist video explaining the SM10 CG and groove improvements. They’re substantial!   https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P8GeFjp4-rs
    OK…so… how I do I test all of this without it turning into a totally subjective mess?  I’m open to suggestions, but the MGS core belief of being “Datacratic” keeps smacking me in the head. I don’t feel my current Shot Scope data can really help since I use the wedges on such a wide variety of distances and conditions.  So I decided to buy (or is ‘rationalized’ the right word???) a Mevo launch monitor that should help me with launch and spin comparisons.

    Mevo session out of the sand.
    I experimented with what turned out to be a tricky measurement, shots out of the sand. I had to add the reflective dot to the ball, set up the Mevo for short wedge play, and find a reasonably flat space in the sand between the ball and the device. But I eventually got consistent spin results with shots that seemed to be similar. I could never achieve consistent numbers with anything else, though (carry, height, launch). But I think I now have a way to somewhat objectively compare IRL spin from sand. I can also use the Mevo to compare fairway shot vertical launch, apex height, and spin between the Premier Fitter’s recommendations and my gamers. Pretty cool!
    I will still end up making a bunch of subjective comments, but I’ll try to keep those to a minimum.  I think if I see improved spin from the bunkers, better turf action on partial shots, and greater consistency on gap wedge shots, I will have some gently used SM9s to put up for sale! Again, any suggestions or simply things you’d like to see are very welcome!
    5/23/2024 Update: My Professional Fitting: 
    Just the facts, ma’am, just the facts!!!! Here’s what the Vokey online Wedge Selector Tool recommended (completely based on my own evaluation) and what the Professional recommends. Hey! I got one bounce and one grind right! Who needs a professional!!??


    Online Wedge Selector (top) & the Professional Fitter's recommendation (bottom)
    Deeper dive:
    It’s been more than 12 years since I’ve had an in-person club fitting, and that was in-doors on a simulator. This was my first outdoor fitting experience; it didn’t disappoint! I was contacted by Andrew Saupe, Titleist Fitting Specialist, where he slotted me ahead of an already packed fitting day at Apple Mountain Golf Club near Saginaw, MI.

    Andrew Saupe & his SureFit set-up
    One couldn’t ask for a more enthusiastic supporter of all things Titleist, and he really loves what he does. Andrew knew my fitting was for a MGS member’s test and he was ready to work his magic on me. We started off discussing my fitting goals and expectations. It surprised me when he said that he found many customers just wanted to maximize distance, even for wedges, and they didn’t even care about things like carry yards and spin control. I can’t imagine that being a common attitude among MGS devotees, but I guess it’s out there!
    We reviewed my Shot Scope data that I brought along, and the scoring clubs I’ve been using, a JPX919HM 45 deg wedge & 50 deg gap wedge, a SM9 54.12D and a SM9 58.08M. Next, we moved on to my general misses and issues, but reserved more of that discussion for the individual wedge I was hitting. I had already warmed up on another part of the range earlier, so he asked me to start off hitting a few with my 7 iron to get a sense of my normal pattern. Right away he noticed an issue I have; my divots are quite a bit deeper on the toe side than the heal. After a few shots, he handed me a T350 7 iron in a 1” longer shaft (that model mostly because I had asked him an earlier question about them). I still seemed to be more toe down, so he adjusted the lie up 2 deg. That worked perfectly!  
    After more discussion about softer northern tier courses I normally play, the highest lofted wedge with which I’d be comfortable, and possible future iron purchases, he chose to have me start off with a 56 deg head with a 14 deg bounce in the F grind, which is the all-purpose grind for full shots. Also, he didn’t have all of the available shafts for the other wedges, so he wanted to validate the extra inch long shaft and 2 deg upright lie angle. They worked! I was getting a nice even divot and excellent 3-5 groove contact and excellent spin on a ¾ shot.
    The impressive practice facility at Apple Mountain even includes two large bunkers; one onto a green and one replicating a fairway bunker. Unfortunately, the entire area received a great deal of rain the night before and even though the sand was raked to near perfection, the sand was still so wet that getting meaningful data wasn’t in the cards. I did feel getting out with the proposed SM10 56.14F was a bit easier than my current SM9 54.12D, but no real data to back that up.

    3/4 swing with the SM10.56.14F 
    At this point I got some good news; Andrew’s appointment after me had to cancel. So he said that we could take all the time we wanted! Whoo-hoo, more play time!!!
    Next, we went to the wedge that I was most curious about, a 52 deg gap wedge.  My stock GW complaint is again inconsistent contact. The longer shaft and upright lie angle will help that situation quite a bit, but he also went to a 12 deg bounce in the F grind. My gamer GW bounce is a mere 6 degrees.  Again, nice numbers!

    3/4 swing with SM10.52.12F
    Last, he had me try a 60 deg lob wedge. Again to help me with inconsistent contact, he went to a 12 deg bounce but this time in a D grind. Nice!!

    3/4 swing with SM10.50.12D
    But I wasn’t done testing the LW yet. I short-side myself too often on a couple of holes where I regularly play that requires a reasonable flop shot. I’m no Phil Mickelson, but can I do a decent job of keeping it on the green, even when it runs away from me. I needed to see whether I could hit a flop shot with the higher bounce Andrew was proposing. Again, I was pleased! Even on the tight range grass, the 60 did a pretty decent job.
    One note on spin numbers; they were undoubtedly higher as the result of using range balls. There is such a thing as too much spin but Andrew wasn’t worried that mine would be excessive, even on full shots. Probably his tactful way of telling me that it wouldn’t happen with my club head speed.☺️
    The last thing to do was decide on the finish.

    Andrew showed me his fabulous looking murdered out bag set-up, including the jet-black wedges with black shafts and grips that he ordered through WedgeWorks. Believe me, the pictures don’t do them justice, they’re gorgeous! I tried to convince him that the all-black color was essential to my improved wedge performance, but he wouldn’t bite. Oh, well. I actually had my heart set on the new Nickel finish anyway.

    The stock SM10 finishes.
    All-in-all, I spent nearly 2 hours with Andrew and hit close to 200 balls. I was exhausted when returned home! For some reason, my wife wasn’t overly sympathetic.
    Unboxing and First Impressions:
    Sorry that I’m late getting to this phase. I left for my granddaughter’s softball tournament literally the day of their surprise arrival. Fortunately, my neighbor kept them safe until I returned; not without some threats of test driving them himself, though! 😮

    My wedges came through the regular Vokey order/build system as opposed to via WedgeWorks, so they weren’t cradled in the custom super-soft laser-cut foam block like @Chubbs1991 wedges were 😊. But the cardboard/bubble wrap packaging worked just fine. Everything arrived in perfect condition. There was only one small surprise when I opened the box. When my fitter input my specs into his system to provide me with a printout, the only mid-size MCC+4 grip color available at the time was blue; I wanted gray or black to go with the Nickle finish. Everyone thought it’d be easy to change the color when ordered, but somehow the blue was what came through. Not the end of the world.


    These are, like all of the previous Vokey models I’ve seem, beautiful! I really like the nickel finish and the slightly shinier badging on the back. Maybe it's because I’ve always thought Vokeys, and Titleist clubs in general, were made for professionals, but their look always appealed to me... and these don’t disappoint!
    To get a quick idea of their performance, I ran out to a local range to give them a test run. But I ended up disappointed for a couple of reasons. First, I was expecting to see huge benefits to the higher bounce and more forgiving grinds vs. my gamers. But the turf conditions could not have been more different from the fitting session if I planned it. The night before my fitting, it rained... a lot; so conditions were very soft. But the range yesterday was dried out and baren of much grass as they are going through some renovations. The SM10s did seem to be a bit easier to get through the turf, but I couldn’t get any real turf feedback (divot pattern) to verify.
    Also, the range balls they had weren’t really range balls. They were a hodge-podge of old range balls and VERY old and beat up real balls of various brands/models.  I couldn’t come close to consistent spin numbers, with either my gamers or the SM10s.


    I have a dozen ProV1s onto which I've added the Mevo silver dot that I will use to gather some good comparison numbers. But the golf course range I’m using for that wants me there during specific times to avoid other range-rats and to reduce their liability in case I get beaned collecting my ProVs, so it’ll be a few days before I can run that test.
    But… I also had a bit of trouble with the feel of the SM10s. While they are 1” longer than my gamers, they just felt much heavier to me. My local club repair facility (in the Tawas, MI area where I summer) is in the process of moving locations and doesn’t have their equipment set up yet meaning that I couldn’t get the SM10s on a SW scale. So, this morning I used Dave Tutelman’s swing weight calculator to see if there’s a difference between my SM9s and the SM10s. There is… a lot! Trying to be as careful as I could, my SM9 58 is in the D5.5 range (darn close to their stated SW), but the SM10 60 is at E0!! The Vokey website says swing weight is D5.
    The SM10 weighs 499g while the SM9 weighs 483g, but most of that difference is in the midsized grip of the SM10 vs the standard grip of the SM9. That should make the SW lower, not higher. I'm going to contact my Titleist fitter to get his opinion and I'll report on what he says. Also, I may still be doing something wrong so I’m going to try to find a scale somewhere, but right now it seems that there is a huge difference in swing weight.
    Next up: Play with these babies!!!
     
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    BunnyG reacted to Chubbs1991 in Vokey SM10 Wedges - 2024 Forum Review   
    Firstly, a huge shoutout to both MyGolfSpy and Titleist for this incredible opportunity. As someone who's always been loyal to Vokey wedges (with a brief fling with Cleveland), I'm beyond excited to dive into the world of SM10s.
     
    Hey there, I'm Corbyn, residing in rural Nova Scotia, Canada, with my wife and newborn and dog named Hogan. Golf isn't just a hobby for us; it's part of our story. Our first date was actually a round of golf, where I managed to fire a smooth 87, my “best round ever” and then next summer we got married on the course. As a teacher, I'm fortunate to have summers off, dedicating ample time to perfecting my game both on the course and in our backyard chipping and putting area.  Love travelling to play all types of courses. Last summer was able to get to Cabot and play both the links and cliffs, followed by a trip to the Carolinas to play. Tobaccao and Pine Needles, Southern Pines. 
     

     
     
    My current course is Clare Golf and Country Club, nestled in the picturesque landscapes of NS. While it might not boast the length of some courses, its small greens present a formidable challenge every time I play. Was able to shoot par there last summer 71.  It was also the spot of my wedding. The par 3 we got married on was playing long that day as it was all carry. 
     

     
    Now, onto the gear, as true golf equipment junkie. My bag's a bit of a mixed affair, built through a mix of research and gut feeling. I've got a Mizuno driver, Titleist 3 wood, Callaway Legacy Black irons KBS $ taper x flex  and, of course, my trusty Titleist Vokey SM8 wedges in 52, 56, and 60 degrees, all wedges with KBS hi rev shafts. Each wedge's flex varies – the 52 and 56 are extra stiff, while the 60 is stiff.
    It's been a journey of dedication and hard work, but seeing those numbers drop has been incredibly rewarding. I've been focusing a lot on mastering my tempo, striving to become a full-time member of "Tempo Town." Alongside that, I've dedicated significant time to honing my short game, especially those delicate shots around the green.
    Testing Wishlist for the New Titleist SM10 Wedges
    1) The fitting experience. Seeing how it will compare to my online fitting from titliest to my own fitting(Me thinking I know what I need) to actually getting fit. 
    2) Spin Control: Assess the spin rates of the SM10 wedges compared to my current Vokey SM8 wedges.
    3) Feel and Feedback: Evaluate the overall feel and feedback on different types of shots, from full swings to delicate pitches.
    4) Consistency: Test the consistency of distance and trajectory on both full shots and finesse shots around the green.
    5) Versatility: Experiment with various shot types, including bunker shots, flop shots, and low runners, to gauge the versatility of the SM10 wedges.
    6) Grind Options: Explore the available grind options to determine which best suits my playing style and course conditions.
    7) Durability: Assess the durability of the wedges over multiple rounds of play to ensure long-lasting performance.
    8.  Aesthetics: Evaluate the visual appeal of the SM10 wedges at address and in the bag. As I plan on getting raw finish.
    9) Customization: Explore customization options such as shafts, grips, and stamping to personalize the wedges to my preferences.
    10) Comparative Testing: Conduct side-by-side comparisons with my current Vokey SM8 wedges to identify any noticeable
    differences in performance. 
     
    Experience Using the Titliest Wedge Selector on their Website: 
    First off, let's talk about how easy it is to use. I'm not someone who is tech whiz, but the interface of the Wedge Selector is so easy that I had no trouble navigating through it. Inputting my playing conditions, divot pattern, fairway conditions and bunker conditions, and skill level was a breeze, and within moments, I had personalized recommendations tailored specifically to my game. As someone who thinks of  themselves as a gear geek, these types of club selectors are important. 

    Now with these recommendations I build the wedges on the site.  Selecting the shafts and grips that I want. I am curious when I do the actual fitting if I fit into these specs or not.  I went with the KBS as I have KBS in my irons and wedges already so I figured they were right for me. 

    The Fitting: 
    Today, I had a wedge fitting at Ken Wo Golf Club in New Minas, NS, with Jordan Milne, and it was an amazing experience. The weather was perfect, with a slight headwind and a comfortable temperature of 20 degrees Celsius. I do wish I would have taken some more time to take pictures but everything was happening so quickly and I didnt want to interrupt the fitting and throw off my swing. 

     
     When I arrived, Jordan greeted me and explained what we would do during the session. We started with a warm-up to get some initial numbers, using my 9-iron and pitching wedge to check the distance gaps. My 9-iron consistently hit around 150 yards, while my pitching wedge, which I thought was a 125-yard club, was actually reaching 135 yards. This revealed a big 20-25 yard gap between my pitching wedge and my 52-degree wedge, which was hitting around 110 yards. A good rule of thumb is to have similar gapping between wedges 10-15 yards. Jordan had the TrackMan system set up to give us accurate data which was optimized, even though we were using range balls instead of the ProVs or Bridgestones I usually play with.
    With these baseline numbers, we tried out different lofts and grinds for my wedges. Surprisingly, my self-fitted wedges, which I had chosen based on internet research, had the correct grinds: an F grind for my 52-degree wedge and M grinds for my 56 and 60-degree wedges. However, Jordan noticed that my wedge shafts were too stiff and suggested switching to S400 shafts for better performance and feel.
     
    We spent some time testing various wedges, and after thorough evaluation, we decided on a new set of four wedges: 48 F, 52 F, 56 M, and 60 T. It was my first time seeing a T grind, and it felt perfect when I set it down—hard to explain, but it felt like a natural fit immediately. My swing was feeling good, so the fitting was quicker. He knew what would work, and everything we tried felt great compared to what I thought was good for me.

    Jordan’s fitting approach focused on real-world conditions rather than just relying on numbers. He had me hit various shots—from full swings to half swings and small pitches—on the range to see how each wedge performed. After that, we moved to the short game area to test pitches and bunker shots, making sure  the grinds were perfectly suited to my game. The bunker shots were particularly challenging since my bunker play isn’t my strongest skill, and having Jordan throw balls into the bunker and ask me to aim for specific pins was nerve-wracking but very helpful.
    Wedge set up:

    Overall, I am extremely happy with the fitting process and Jordan’s expertise. It’s great to work with someone who truly understands club fitting and can customize the equipment to my needs. This session has given me confidence that my new setup will greatly improve my game. The combination of personalized attention, accurate data, and real-world testing made this fitting an invaluable experience.
    Unboxing: 
    Yesterday was like Christmas morning for me because I finally got my hands on the new Titleist Vokey SM10 wedges, and I couldn't wait to share the unboxing experience with you all!
    As soon as the package arrived, I could barely contain my excitement. The sleek black Titleist Wedge work box with its iconic logo made my heart race with anticipation. Opening it felt like unwrapping a treasure chest filled with golfing magic.
    First, I carefully lifted the lid and there they were, nestled snugly inside the box — my new Vokey SM10 wedges gleaming under the light. I received my 48,56,60 degree wedges.

    One of my favourite logos in golf. This Vokey design wedge will rust. 
    Of course, no unboxing is complete without testing the clubs out a bit, so I took a few practice swings in the living room. The plan is to get to the range in the next couple days to start to put these through the paces. 
    I am going to try and start the rust process by soaking them in some water and letting dry out over night. 
    First Impressions: 
    Today, I finally had the chance to test out my new SM10 wedges, and I must say, despite my swing being a bit rusty due to the end-of-school-year crunch, I was quite impressed with their performance. Between writing report cards and grading final tests, my free time has been scarce, so this range session was a much-needed break.
    48 Degree Wedge: The 48-degree F Grind wedge was a standout. It was flying consistently between 120-130 yards, and the feel was fantastic. The solid contact and predictable flight made it a joy to hit, even though my swing wasn’t at its best.
    56 Degree Wedge: Next up, the 56-degree  M Grind wedge performed admirably, with distances hovering around 100-105 yards. I was able to experiment with different ball flights, hitting both high and low shots with relative ease. The versatility of this club is something I’m definitely looking forward to utilizing on the course.
    60 Degree T-Grind: Lastly, the 60-degree T-grind wedge took a bit of getting used to. The unique grind changes the way it interacts with the turf, and it took me a few swings to adjust. However, once I got the hang of it, the precision and control it offered were remarkable.
    It’s worth noting that I was hitting off driving range mats and using range balls, which might slightly affect the feel and performance compared to being on the course with my regular ball. Nonetheless, these initial impressions are promising, and I can’t wait to see how these wedges perform during a full round of golf.

    Hoping to get a round in next week. 
     
     
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    BunnyG reacted to GolfSpy_APH in Vokey SM10 Wedges - 2024 Forum Review   
    The new Titleist Vokey SM10 wedges were released in March of this year and have been a popular addition to many golfers' bags since. We are looking for four golfers to test, review, and keep a set of Titleist Vokey SM10 wedges.
    About The Vokey SM10 Wedges 
    MyGolfSpy Staff member Tony Covey has a complete breakdown of the new SM10 wedges here , which is a must-read, but the shorter version is Vokey SM10 is focused on three key elements: versatility, distance control, and trajectory, and maximizing spin. The Vokey SM10 lineup has six different grind options for a total of 25 different loft, bounce, and grind options. 
    This includes the M Grind that had previously only been available through WedgeWorks and T Grind that has also made its way to the retail market. The other options that a golfer must choose from are the finish, and the SM10 has three of them: Tour Chrome, Jet Black, and the new addition Nickel. 
    There’s more though; the Vokey SM10 has refined the shape and CG placement to help optimize distance control and trajectory. This works in tandem with their spin-milled grooves that have groove geometry that varies depending on the loft to maximize spin for each loft.
    Titleist Wedge Selector Tool 
    Of course, all of this can be a lot to take in, so Titleist offers an online Wedge Selector Tool to help simplify things. It is a series of eight questions which gather various information about your current setup and game to help make the best recommendation on what setup would be best for you. To try it yourself, go here!
    WEDGE SELECTOR TOOL

    Please welcome and congratulate our four testers!
    @HeathS16
    @snoopy79 
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    It is no secret that L.A.B. Golf has taken off because of multiple wins on the PGA Tour and a greater professional presence overall. Its success in MyGolfSpy testing and the hype around the newly released L.A.B. DF3 has only increased its notoriety. 
    What Is L.A.B.? 
    L.A.B. stands for Lie Angle Balance. These putters, unlike other putters, are not toe-hang or face balanced. They are balanced to point at the target, meaning no twisting, no struggling to keep the face directed at the target—the putter does this naturally. 
    As each golfer is unique in their putting stance and stroke, the fitting process for L.A.B. is crucial. L.A.B. has made this easy by way of their online submission. A simple step-by-step process is sent to L.A.B. and they use this video to dial in your specifications. 
    L.A.B. is best known for their big and unique-looking DF 2.1, a putter that has many nicknames and certainly does not appeal to all golfers. This is where the DF3 comes in. 
    Please welcome and congratulate our testers! 
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    The lessons I took from GolfTec and having a sim to practice on has changed my game, hands down.

    I'm really excited for the season to start this year to see how everything goes.
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    BunnyG reacted to GolfSpy AFG in Edel Array Putters . 2024 Forum Review   
    GolfSpy AFG's Review of the Edel Array Putter
    Introduction
    Hey everyone.  My name is Hayes, on the forum I go by GolfSpy AFG but only recently.  Prior to that my forum handle was:

    Alas, I had to grow up.  When I'm not playing golf, hanging out on the forum or trying to do my behind-the-scene Forum Leader stuff, I'm a husband and father, and an Airman...I've been on Active Duty in the Air Force for the past 22 years.

     
    My Golf and Putting Game
    As a golfer, I'm a fanatic and am constantly tinkering with workouts, speed training, and training aids trying to get better, because I rarely have time to get to the range or play.  Between the job and being a Dad to 3 active kids, it gets hard to get out.  When I do get on the course, I play to a 7 handicap and do halfway decent off the tee, below average on approach shots, above average on green-side short game shots, and I'm not a very good putter.  My Strokes Gained from GolfShot is a little skewed for lack of rounds from last year, but it does paint the picture:
      
    But, hope springs eternal for me and putting, thanks in large part to my selection to test an Edel Array Putter.  I'm going to save an in-depth fitting discussion for another post, but I should probably start with a confession that's near sacrilege on this forum: I've never actually been fit for a putter before! And, what I learned from the fitting above all was that my years-long insistence on a face-balanced putter was all wrong...I actually need 30-45 degrees of toe hang!  Here's a small peak at the SAM Lab fitting I got, wherein it showed I'm actually exceptionally consistent in my stroke, I just need a better fitting putter:

    My Pending Review
    Again, I'll post about my fitting experience soon in a thread update, but I'm planning to evaluate the Array on a number of fronts. The big 3 for me:
    1) Quality of fit.  Edel really emphasizes the extent to which their putters have to be fit to be effective.  I'll be comparing it against 3 of my old gamers to see if the fit does improve my overall performance, primarily through the use of Stack putting.
    2) Aim bias. Again, more on the fitting later, but the fitting diagnosed a left aim bias, which I do see on the course in what I've always interpreted as tendency to pull my putts.  According to Edel, I just need a better fit to correct or compensate for that aim bias, which is why they offer different alignment plates to help compensate for those biases.  I'll be tracking and comparing how well Edel's alignment plate concept actually results in corrected aim and alignment.
    3) Speed control. Again, the fitting...mine showed some tendencies in how I deliver the putter from a loft standpoint that, if corrected, SHOULD significantly improve my distance control. If I can improve my speed control, my Strokes Gained Putting should improve dramatically.
    But that's what's on my mind...you tell me, what do you want to know?  I'll be happy to answer any questions you might have as we go. Thread updates on what I'm currently gaming, how I intend to measure all of this, and oh yes, the fitting, are all coming in the next few days...
    UPDATE:  The Fitting
    Check out the Science & Motion Fitting details of my fitting via the link above!
    Unboxing & First Impressions: 20 out of 20
    My putter arrived on a Saturday, but with company in town I had to wait for my quiet solitude to hold my own private unveiling ceremony. The wait was worth it. This is my first custom fit putter so I've never had one shipped to me before, and I was impressed with how well Edel had secured this thing...no rolling around in the box during shipping possible here:
     
    Visually the club was love at first sight for me; the putter (including the headcover) all scream premium. Behold, the Edel Array F-1, with a slant neck and 3-dot alignment plate.


    The club also came with an Edel-branded torque wrench along with an additional alignment plate. Edel emphasizes in their fittings how the alignment plate impacts aim bias, so I hope to test that by changing out the plates and measuring results.

    My gamer setup, and what the fitting recommended, is the 3-dot setup pictured above.
    As to my first impressions after rolling some putts on the practice green, I'm in love, but is she the right one for me?  Visually it's a different look for me...I've always gravitated to a 3-line alignment aid that frames the ball, and I've also typically chosen a single-bend neck. But, as I've documented, my fitting said those were both wrong for me.
    Additionally, I've been gaming an Odyssey with a White Hot insert for 2 years. Moving away from that to the milled face of the Array is a big change in sound and feel. Add to that the fact that the Edel is lofted down for my stroke, and this is going to be a bit of an adjustment.  I did my first Stack Putting practice with it last night, and I'll share those results soon, but I rolled it well for a first date especially.  My misses were a different miss than I've been seeing too.
    Aesthetics: 10 out of 10
    I'll try to let the pictures speak for themselves, but I think this putter is drop dead gorgeous. Edel really nailed it with the two different tones of gray and black, and the subtle "Edel" script on the face screams premium to me.

    The interchangeable alignment plate and the color contrast serves to frame the ball well, and while it took me a while to get adjusted to the 3-dot look, this ultimately has become a very confidence inspiring look.

    My only remaining question, which I won't be deducting points for but will certainly be investigating, is how might this putter look with a black stability shaft, say from BGT.  That will definitely be something I look into.
    The Numbers: 10 out of 10
    If you've been following along, you know I've used Stack Putting to test this putter. As documented in the fitting, I demonstrated a decided left aim bias. If you believe Edel, that's because I couldn't aim correctly, and I needed the 3-dot alignment to correct for that. It worked. After multiple rounds in a custom-built putting combine, Edel has built me a putter that corrects for my biases.

    The trend line for that graph is near zero, a dramatic improvement over my SAM results.
    On Course: 17 out of 20
    Let me clarify and apologize to the forum that life and circumstance got in the way quite a bit, and I've only got one round on an actual golf course under my belt so far this season. When I did get out, I putted well...never had a 3-putt, and rolled in several putts of considerable length. I'm very anxious to get out on the course more in the coming weeks and months and report back, but I'm very optimistic I'm going to see big improvements on the green with the Array in the bag.
    Having said that, Stack Putting did allow me to document overall putting performance, and here again it's clear to me that the Edel Array F-1 is a solid fit for me and my game. As you can see from the trend line, from the moment I put the Edel to work the putts per hole got better and better.

    So why the 3 point deduction, you might ask?  Perhaps it's unfair to ding the Array for this, but I can honestly say I'm still acclimating to it a bit. Compared to my old face-balanced and insert-based gamers, this thing is quite the departure, and I'm still not entirely confident over it. It's almost like it demands more focus from me at this point to get good results, like it doesn't quite feel natural, yet.
    The Good, the Bad, and the In Between: 15 out of 20
    As you've obviously already gathered, I'm clearly a big fan of the Array F-1.  I'll spare you the suspense...I'll be bagging this one for sure. So why the 5-point deduction?  I can't help wonder if it's the Array F-1 that I'm so enthralled with, or simply the combination of alignment aid, toe hang, and hosel. In other words, if I can build out a putter with equal specs from Odyssey, for instance, then maybe I'd be able to game an insert again but this time fitted to my stroke. Candidly, the one thing about the Array that I'm not completely thrilled with is the feel and sound...it's fine, but it's a metal "tingy" sound of a milled face rather than the softer feel of an insert like I prefer. Add in my own perceptions that the shaft and grip upgrades are not as plentiful as other OEMs based on the Edel website, and I've deducted several points accordingly.
    Play It or Trade It: 17 out of 20
    So I'm definitely going to play it. The Edel is going to be in my bag for the foreseeable future. But, I'm not so convinced that I won't have a wandering eye for other options. If Odyssey puts out a 3-dot alignment-based putter with 40ish degrees of toe hang and a slant neck hosel, you better believe I'm going to take a look.
    But let's be clear, the Edel fitting process and the ability to dial in the exact combination of loft, lie, alignment, balance, and bias correction is a formula for putting perfection that quite possibly can't be beat. For that reason, the Edel Array F-1 will be in my bag for a long long long time.

    Conclusion
    The ability to customize the Array allows Edel to achieve a fit that other OEMs struggle to match. Do NOT buy this one off the rack, however.  "I know my specs" you say?  I thought that too, and I was dead wrong. Get fit, and then allow that fitter to select the combination of components to fit your game with the Edel Array putting line.  You won't regret it.
    Final Score: 89 out of 100
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    BunnyG reacted to Woodrow72 in Edel Array Putters . 2024 Forum Review   
    Hi everyone I’m Woodrow 72 , my name is Garen and I am very fortunate to have been chosen to test the Edel Fitting system . My goal is to honestly give feedback on this project that will benefit one and all . I have been playing golf since 1969 , am retired and play 4-5 days a week year round . We live in The Villages  Florida for 9 months , then summer bird to Ohio when it’s beastly here . I encourage you each to ask specific questions if my reviews aren’t covering anything that fills your needs .  I am super pumped for this review test as my putting has slipped recently  and this could be my value saving item ! 
    Final Edel Array Fitting Review 
    The Edel fitting was eye opening and one the best things I’ve done . The putter itself is assembled based off your fitting specifications and is much different than most OEM’s that I’ve seen . It’s precision engineered with personalized weights and aiming guides based on your aim bias . paint fill is tasteful and not over the top while adding to the overall appearance of fine craftsmanship and precision engineering. The triple track alignment aids ( I personally use this on my golf balls) is just right for my eyes to see the lines effectively. The two tone black and gunmetal grey accent each other , great appearance and don’t reflect the bright sunlight . The putter was noticed by my playing partners quite soon due to its appearance and I was holing nice putts . 
     The face milling is circular in type and playing on recent top dressed greens will hold tiny sand particles that must be brushed out while the concave weight reduction areas on the sole have sharp edges and need a brush to keep them clean , very minor details but effect the overall looks . Overall appearance, alignment and looks , i grade a 9/10 , only the two items above taking a point away 
    Performance 
    It was apparent from
    the beginning that the alignment system is effective , I could put the ball on the mark time and time again if there was no operator error . I had to learn the speed portion to make the putts but alignment was excellent.  Gate putting was a good test and I managed to effectively put 7/10 on average from 4/6/8 feet , operator error accounted for some of those missed . The putter stay very stable throughout the stroke , toe hits go almost exactly the same distance as center while heel hits are a little shorter . Distance control was two fold , fantastic on down hill putts , best I’ve ever managed while up hill were more challenging, mostly due to the additional roll out I was getting as predicted by the fitting . I did hole more long uphill putts than previously which is a plus . Tend to over strike the uphill putts . 
    The extra roll out was apparent on 3-6 foot side hill putts initially but I adapted well . Since most of my testing was in Florida and I recently came north , I wanted to roll a few putts on bent grass so I did yesterday . The results were pleasant, out of first 6 putts rolled I made one and nestled the others close by from over40’ ! 
    My overall thoughts are : 
    Edel has a system that will help alignment, aim , and improve the average players game . There are great naturals among us that may not need the assistance but most of us , as we age need all the help we can get and the bottom line is most want to reduce scores , make birdies and pars . I reduced my 3 putts per round from 3-4 to 1-2 , usually 1, with no improvement in chipping or GIR , reduced my overall putts per round by 3-5 which helped shave off a few tenths off my index . Really that’s why we try new things to get better . My overall rating for the Array Fitting System and the Edel putter is 97/100 . I love this putter , I recommend it to anyone who has the means and wants to improve . 
    thanks to MGS and Edel 
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    BunnyG reacted to Prodigal Duffer in Edel Array Putters . 2024 Forum Review   
    A Duffer’s Review of the Edel Array Putter by Prodigal Duffer
    Golf is stupid, so let’s make it fun.
    Let’s Roll it Out
    Hey there, MGS, my name is Steve a/k/a Prodigal Duffer. I am in my early 40s and live near Fort Worth, Texas. I have been playing golf for about two years. I used to play occasionally as a younger man, but gave it up for several reasons—mostly because I didn’t enjoy it. I had outsized expectations for my performance, which was especially comical given I had barely any coaching and I never practiced. I sold my clubs and didn’t give it a second thought.
    Fast forward to 2021, and my son enrolled in First Tee, found that he enjoyed it, and then convinced me to come back to the game (hence my forum handle). Unlike my younger days, I now recognize that golf is (like any sport) stupid, which is why it needs to be fun. And, now I play to have fun with my kids:

     
     
    I’ve been documenting the golf adventures with my kids over in The Prodigals. And, I’ve found golf to be quite fun, whether with my kids or with friends I’ve made through the game.
     
     
     
    Before I gave up golf, I thought I was a good putter, and I loved my flat stick. But, the putter was long gone and I needed something. Because I wasn’t sure golf would stick with my son (or me), I bought a cheap Odyssey Stroke Lab R-ball mallet putter. It’s been okay, but I feel like I pull putts to the left and have trouble gauging speed. I started keeping stats, and it turns out, I stink at just about everything, including putts:

     
     
     
    (This is limited data, but still, ouch).
     
     
     
     
    I suspected that part of my problem putting may be the stick, and planned to get a putter fitting this spring. When MGS announced the Edel Array test, I knew I wanted to participate. It would give me an excuse to get my fitting now and maybe help me improve my putting. 
    My testing will primarily have three components: on my Birdie Ball indoor green for testing alignment on less than 10’ putts; at the practice facility for lag putt/distance control (a strength of mine now); and, of course, on the golf course for scoring.
    As you can see, I tend to leave my putts short, especially on distances of less than 10 feet:
       
    I hope that the Edel Array helps me increase my make percentage on those putts and that my percentage of putts left short decreases substantially. On a more subjective note, I want to feel more confident in force of my stroke (I suspect that I leave putts short because the mallet looks heavy and I don’t want to blow past the hole). If the Edel can check these boxes, then there’s a high likelihood it becomes my gamer.
    Thanks to MGS, Edel, and to you, my fellow spies, for trusting me to participate in this test. I look forward to rolling those putts.
    Fitting
    As I anxiously await the arrival of the Array, check out my fitting experience below:
    First Impressions 19/20
    TLDR: Secure premium packaging with branded inside liner, beautiful matte finish to the head and a gleaming steel shaft. Came with an oversized head cover that is simple yet sophisticated. Lost one point because of lack of communication about shipping.
    Check out my full first impressions here:
    Aesthetics - 9/10
    I covered a lot of this in my first impressions. The Array B-1 has a classic look with a beautiful all-black finish. I have a strong preference for the contrast the black provides versus the chrome on my gamer:

    I deducted one point for the use of three different fonts. I think having two would have been okay (script for the Edel brand name and one other), but three makes it look like the company couldn’t decide what it wanted to do. 
    The putter is quiet, making a soft thudding noise. The ball comes off the face just right - not rocketing off, nor does it feel like I have to put some force into it. The face gives good feedback, so it is easy to tell when impact is not in the sweet spot (more on this in the numbers).
    The Numbers - 7/10
    I did a few different tests for distance control and accuracy. In the test-controlled environment, I found it easier to control the distance with the Array:

    Array is on bottom.
    I also tested accuracy by putting through gates at distances of 3, 6, and 9 feet on my indoor mat. The Array outperformed the gamer at 6 and 9 feet, and the gamer barely won at three feet. 

    Full results are here:
    As I ran the accuracy protocol, I found that I had a tendency to open the face on my stroke. The opposite happens with my gamer. I attribute this to the Array having a toe hang and my gamer being face balanced. As I practiced more and focused on the stroke, this became almost a non-issue. I deducted one point for this.
    One area where the Array really excelled was in mis-hits. In one of my tests, I purposely hit balls at the toe, center, and heel, both low and high. I found that location had minimal impact on accuracy. Also, hitting from the fringe (or close to it) did not impact my putts in the slightest.

    I canned this 13 footer for birdie.
    So one thing that surprised me was that my more traditional putting stats were worse with the Array than my gamer:

    The increase in three putts by almost double led me to deduct one point. But, when I examined the statistical trend on the Array, everything is moving in the right direction. I suspect that the numbers will continue to improve as I play with the Array more, but I have to rate this putter as it stands now, not what I might be in the future.
    In my intro, I identified two areas where I was looking for improvement: increasing my make percentage at putts of 10 feet or less and decreasing my percentage of putts left short. The make percentages slightly (maybe?) favor the Array:

    Odyssey on left, Array on right.
    Unfortunately, I did not meaningfully improve the percentage of putts left short:

    Again, Odyssey on left, Array on right.
    For this, I deducted one point.
    On Course - 19/20
    So, how did it do on the course? The above numbers seem to suggest that I should stick with my gamer, but strokes gained paints a different picture entirely. With the Odyssey, my strokes gained was -4.18; the Array, it was -2.74. In other words, I improved my strokes gained by almost 1.5 strokes! Most of that increase came in the less than 10 foot range:

    Pretty recently, I made a change to my putting strategy as far as target distance. That has led to significantly fewer putts left short and more makes from farther away. Two examples from the same hole:
     

    The first I made for birdie on an uphill, right to left break. The second, I put about two feet past the hole, having misread the line a bit. In the past, I would have hit the second putt to barely make it to the hole out of fear of running past the hole. Of course, this would exacerbate the break. This time, I hit it a bit firmer and canned it. 
    My scores are improving, but I would not say that the Array is the cause— an improved short game is the primary factor. But, I feel extremely confident with the Array in my hands. I have played only six rounds with it, and I expect that as I work more on distance control, I will seek a jump in strokes gained on longer putts.
    The Good, Bad, and In-between - 18/20
    Three things. First, the fitting process was really cool. This was my first putter fitting, and if I could do it again, I would have been a bit more assertive about a few things. My fitter focused on the F-1, largely because it was similar to my gamer and hit all the benchmarks the fitting tested. I preferred the B-1 and should have insisted we do the fitting protocols for it just to make sure. I still went with the B-1, but at some risk that it wouldn’t be the right putter for me. I did not deduct any points for this, as it was not an issue with the fitter, but me. I hope other spies reading this will be sure to speak up if there is a putter they prefer.
    Second, while I really like the looks of the head cover, it is slightly too big for both my stand bag and my cart bag:

    Deducted one point.
    Third, the weight of the B-1 is 5 grams less than I think I prefer. If I decide to buy other weights, they’re $50, which seems expensive. Deduction of one point.
    One last “in between.” I am not a good putter. Changing putters was not a magic fix, and I did not expect it to be. At least with the Array, I can easily tell when there is a problem with my stroke, which is too frequent. Archer, not arrow.
    Play it or Trade It? 17/20
    While the traditional numbers favor the gamer (slightly), the Array is meeting the major benchmark I identified and my strokes gained is improving. I have played only six rounds with it and I think that the numbers will only get better as I get more familiar with it (and actually work on my putting!). I also like it enough that I wanted it to win on numbers, so I think it’s safe to say it’s staying in the bag. But because the numbers are so close, I deducted one point.
    So, I am a mid-handicapper with aspirations of becoming a single digit. This putter costs $400, which is definitely a premium price in the realm of Scotty Cameron and Ping Anser. I think that’s a lot to ask for any brand putter, let alone a small outfit. I deducted two points for this reason.
    Conclusion
    TL;DR - A fit designed to identify a person’s putting biases and address them through the right customization. The Array B-1 delivers on looks and, so far, on the course. 
    The other day, my wife asked what I would have to pay for the Array if I bought it. When I told her, she raised her eyebrows and then remarked how cool it is that I get to test and keep this. And she is absolutely right. Thank you to Edel and MGS for this opportunity. You put an incredible putter in the hands of this duffer.
    Final Score - 89/100
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    BunnyG reacted to Parshooter36 in Edel Array Putters . 2024 Forum Review   
    Introduction:
    Let's do this! I want to start by thanking Edel and MyGolfSpy for this amazing opportunity.  This will be my 2nd review for MGS, and I could not be more pumped! My name is Andy, and I live in Southern Illinois a little over an hour east of St. Louis. I am 49 years old (for a couple of more months😢) and have been playing golf off and on since I was 15. I have played regularly, trying to improve my game since 2010.  I have spent most of those years in the 12-15 handicap range for many years, and at this point in my life, I figured that was as good as I would get. Last year, something clicked mid-season, and I played the most consistent golf of my life. I had played that well at times, but never more than a few rounds, and then it would be back to reality. I finished the year on a heater and managed to win the men's division of my club championship, beating the 3 guys that had combined to win the last 10 championships.
     

     
    I consider myself a good but not great putter, and my putting stats pretty much confirm that. I don't make a ton of birdies, but I also rarely 3 putt. Most of my 1 putts are due to the fact that I only hit around 45% GIR, and most of the time I am an above-average chipper. I currently have 6 or 7 putters in the garage and have tried everything from belly putters to broomsticks over the years to try and improve my putting.
     


     
    I have been interested in Edel's fitting philosophy for a few years now. So much so that I put together my own laser and mirror setup in an attempt to mimic what they use in their fitting process to test my alignment on the putters I had in the stable at that time. I have been fit for putters a couple of times in the past, but I am looking forward to a completely different experience this time. I really like my current putter, but I am not married to any club in my bag.  I know going in that alignment is an issue with my putting, so if the Edel system proves to consistently improve that, I will switch in a heartbeat. I have an indoor putting area in my simulator to test on, and golf season is nearly here, so there will be plenty of opportunity to put this putter to the test. 
     
    The Fitting:
    I want to add a bonus section to this review as I feel the fitting process is key to Edel's overall landscape. I am not usually a big proponent of fittings as I have had wildly different results in my past fittings and feel like they are very dependent on the fitter you got that day. Even though I was the first fitting for the Array putters at the GolfTec I was fit at, the fitting was very scripted and structured which made me feel like you should have a similar experience wherever you get fit.
    In the Edel Array fitting kit they have all of the weights and alingment plates as well as the laser and mirror setup that was very telling in my fitting. They also have one of each of the four putters, each with one of the four different hosel options. Since the Array line is completely modular, they can change the hosels between the putters to put together any combination they need.

     
    We started with my height and  standard wrist to floor measurement to get a ballpark for the putter length. She then had me set up over a putting mirror to see where my eye line was, which turns out was quite a bit inside the ball line. In the past I had been fit into 36" putters, but at 34" my eye line matched up perfectly with the ball line.
    We then moved to the part I was most excited about, and that was the laser alignment. For those that don't know, Edel uses a laser pointed at the ball. They place a mirror onto the face of the putter and have you address the ball. Once you feel like you are aimed at the puck, they remove the ball and the laser reflect back onto the wall showing if you are aimed correctly or not. My initial setup was well right of target. We tried several different alignment plates and for me the T-Bar was the clear winner.



     
    Now that setup and alignment was settled we moved on to the stroke. GolfTec uses Blast Motion to measure your putting stroke. My gamer putter is face balanced and I alway tried to use a straight back straight through motion with it. The Blast Motion sensor showed I was actually coming outside to in with my stroke which I suppose kind of balanced out my aiming to the right. We tried all four heads and found that the blade was definitely not for me. The F-1 and F-3 were the finalists and the numbers were so close that it just came down to personal preference. Even though the F-1 was more in line size wise with putters I have used in the past, I just loved the look of the F-3 and went with it. We then tried all four hosels in the F-3 head and found that the slant neck balanced my stroke out the best.

    The final test we did was some distance putting to dial in the weighting. My current gamer is extremely head heavy, so we started with the heaviest weights in the head and no counter-balance weight. I was lagging them up perfectly (I actually made the first putt) so we stopped there. 
    I am usually a mid-pistol grip guy, but that wasn't one of the options so I decided to go all in on the Edel philosophy and went with the standard round Edel grip.
    I have never come away from a fitting with such a positive feeling.  I am really excited to how much impact proper alignment can have on my game.
     
    First Impressions (20 out of 20) :
    My Edel Array F-3 showed up this week and it is stunning. I love the Edel script, there are multiple fonts in use here, but it doesn't bother me at all.

    The milling is flawless and to me everything about this putter screams quality. The face has a unique milling pattern. It is not as soft as other milled putters I have tried, but in initial testing it gets the ball rolling nicely.

    There are some obvious signs of the modular design, but I feel like Edel has done a good job of hiding them for the most part. At a glance, I'm not sure the average person would realise that the putter can be taken completely apart. Here is a shot of the undercairrage where the alingment plate and face plate attach.

    I am coming from an insert putter which definitely has a softer feel the the Edel, but this is not a negative for me. The F-3 has a very solid feel and sound. The face is made of 1025 carbon steel, so you don't get the high pitched "ting" that I have heard from aluminum faced putter I have tried in the past.

    The Edel putter is a bit smaller than I am use to, but I just love the look of it and it frames the ball nicely. 

    I am also already a fan of the Edel round grip. I have never used a complety round putter grip before, but it is very comfortable in the hand and took zero time to get use to.

    Finally, the headcover might be the most durable looking head cover I have ever seen.
    It feels like it is made from some sort of canvas material that should hold up well to all of the flexing that comes removing the headcover over and over.

    It has a nice strong magnet closure which I much prefer over velcro. I also like the black on black Edel emblem sewn onto the flap.

     
    Aesthetics (9 out of 10):
     
    I love the shape of the Edel Array F-3 head, that’s what drew me to it. I am a visual person and a firm believer that you need to like what you are looking at or it will not work long term. I really like the contoured edges and the sharp lines they create. I also really like the contrast between the light gray body and the dark gray face. It gives it kind of a “versa” feel and gives me another line to help square up the ball. If I am going to nitpick for the sake of being objective, I would’ve preferred the alignment plate match the color of the face and not be just flat black. It would still be dark enough to contrast the white alignment features on the various plates, but I feel like it would just flow better with the overall look of the putter. (-1 point)
     
    The F-3 is definitely an attention grabber. I have been asked about it multiple times when people see it for the 1st time. Last week I had a guy that kept calling it my Tesla putter. I guess the shaping and color scheme do loosely resemble the Tesla truck, but I had not made that connection before. Whenever someone shows interest in the putter, I always point out the modular design give a quick rundown on the Edel fitting philosophy with the different alignment plates. I have yet to find anyone that had even heard of Edel, so I am doing my part to educate them when the opportunity presents itself.

    The sound of the F-3 is a solid thud. It is not as soft as other milled putters that I have tried, but it is not clicky either. I really like sound and feel of this putter. My gamer ball is a Srixon Q Star Tour which has a fairly low compression rating, so I also tried it with a Pro V1. There was a slight difference in sound between the two, but nothing that was off-putting to my ear. I am very sensitive to the sound of a putter, mainly the high pitched “ting” putters are the ones I can’t use. I have moved on from putters in the past simply because I could not stand the sound. I have the heaviest weights in both the toe and heel positions, so the sound and feel may change if you have lighter weights. 
     
    It also provides great feedback on off-center hits. Both toe and heel hits are noticeable as soon as you make contact. Not surprisingly, off center hits lose a bit of distance. They were not overly penalizing, but I was seeing an average of 15% loss in distance on mishits. The weights on the F-3 are in the forward position behind the face of the putter. The F-1 has the weights towards the back of the head which I would assume will make that the more forgiving model.  
     
    The Numbers (8 out of 10):
     
    The Edel Array F-3 is very different from my Bloodline Vale putter. My previous gamer was face balanced and my fitting showed that my straight back straight through stroke was actually an outside to in stroke. The slant neck I was fitted for in the F-3 gives it 44 degrees of toe hang which promotes an arcing stroke that seems to agree with me. The F-3 is also 54 grams heavier than the Vale, yet it is 15 swing weight points lighter.




    I did a head-to-head test on my indoor putting green. I putted 100 putts with each putter from 5’, 10’, and 15’. There is a slight right to left break that gets more exaggerated the further you get from the hole. It’s a right edge putt from 5’, but more like a full cup to the right from 15’. I used my gamer ball and took the time to line up the ball just like I would on the course for all 600 putts. The testing was done in multiple sessions, and I would alternate putters every 3 putts to try and keep things as fair as possible. I was really good from 5’ with both putters but was surprised how much of a drop off there was from the longer distances (-1 point). Here were my results:
     
    5 feet   – Edel 82% - Bloodline – 87%
    10 feet – Edel 25% - Bloodline – 22%
    15 feet – Edel 18% - Bloodline – 10%
     
    During this test I found that the Bloodline was slightly better on the short putts (-1 point). I attribute this to going from a face balance putter to a toe hang putter. My distance control was definitely better with the Edel on the longer putts. I don’t know if it was the longer shaft or the heavier swing weight or a combination of the two, but I had multiple putts with the Bloodline where I drug the putter and left the ball woefully short. I wish I had charted all of the misses to get a better representation of this, but I didn’t think of it at the time. 
     
    On-Course (20 out of 20):
     
    On the course is where the F-3 really shines. I honestly cannot remember making as many putts in the 8’-15’ range like I have with this putter. And my lag putting is much improved.


    Sure, I’ve had the occasional round where I was burning edges and never had anything fall but even then, I felt like I was hitting my lines and making good putts. I have 3 years of ShotScope data that says I average 29.5 putts per round. To date with the F-3 I have averaged 28.1 putts per round. I know there are a lot of variables that can affect putts per round, but my greens in regulation percentage has not changed so I feel like this is a valid statistic. 1.4 putts per round is an excellent gain in my book!
    Is the F-3 fool-proof? Of course not. I can absolutely mishit this putter and leave a long lag putt 5 feet short bringing 3-putts into play. And I can push or pull that 5-footer just like I can with any other putter I have ever tried. The fact that I know the F-3 is lined up correctly leaves everything else on me. As long as I put a good stroke on it, I like my chances of making the putt.
     
    The Good, the bad, the in between (19 out of 20):
     
    I absolutely love the Edel Array F-3. I think it looks great and performs even better. I have been intrigued by the whole Edel alignment fitting approach for several years now and was not disappointed. I would recommend and Edel fitting to anyone that is looking to take their putting game to the next level.
     
    I really don’t have anything bad to say about the Edel Array lineup. The only thing I can really ding them on is a lack of a pistol grip option. They do offer a premium leather grip that they have listed as a pistol style grip, but since they offer Super Stroke grips as an option I don’t understand why they wouldn’t include their pistol grips as well. (-1 point)

     
    Play it or Trade it? (20 out of 20):
     
    100% play it! I said going into this that in order for the F-3 to find a spot in my bag I would simply need to make more putts with it. Not only have I made more putts, but I have more confidence standing over putts than I ever have. 
     
    Confidence is key and the whole Edel experience has me believing that I am giving myself the best chance to make every putt I roll.
     
    Conclusion:
     
    The Edel Array F-3 is a great putter. I have found that my alignment and distance control are more consistent than my previous gamer and I am also seeing more midrange putts (8’-15’) drop than they have in the past. The whole Array line can literally be set up so suit any type of putting stroke and alignment needs. Fitting is the key to what makes Edel putters so special. There are so many variables in the modular design of the Array putters that buying one off the rack would be like finding a needle in a haystack in my opinion. If you are serious about trying to get the most out of your game, a fitting and purchase of an Edel Array putter is money well spent.

     
    Final Score (96 out of 100)
     
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    BunnyG reacted to Bucky CC in Edel Array Putters . 2024 Forum Review   
    Hey everyone!  Bucky CC checking in from the great state of Wisconsin.  Before we get started I wanted to give a huge shout out and sincere thank you to MyGolfSpy, the MGS forum, fellow Spy’s big and small, and of course, Edel.  I’ve been lucky enough to do a few tests and every time they are the absolute highlight of my year.

    Here I am about to die while my son has the time of his life.
    I’ve been playing golf for more than 30 years now.  Started around age 10 in the backyard trying to be like my older brother and have been playing ever since.  I spent most of 2023 as a 4 handicap with all aspects of my game being fairly equal.  My home course has a lot of penalty areas off the tee, so when I keep the ball in play I tend to stay in the mid 70’s.

    You can see from the graphic above putting is actually one of my stronger traits.  But if that’s true, why have I had 12 putters going back to the last real fitting I had in 2011?  In order (to the best of my memory):
    Odyssey Dual Force 668, Odyssey Works #1 Wide Versa, Bettinardi Kuchar Model 1 (standard length), 2015 Ping Ketsch Mid, Evnroll ER2, Evnroll ER5

    Odyssey Stroke Lab Black 7 S, Odyssey Stroke Lab Black 7, TaylorMade Spider SR, PXG Battle Ready Bat Attack, Evnroll ER5 (black this time), Odyssey White Hot OG Stroke Lab 7

    As you can see, I’m a bit of a putter hoe (and have a things for Mallets in the #7 mold).  When I saw the testing opportunity for the Edel Array I thought I finally found the holy grail of tests for my game.  Not only would I be getting a new putter (lucky #13!), but I would have the opportunity to go through one of the most comprehensive fittings to build an extremely customized putter built to my exact specifications.
    I plan to test the Edel (model # to be determined) against my current Odyssey White Hot OG #7 indoors on putts up to 10.  Once the weather warms up a bit I’ll take things outdoors for a head to head battle and a look against over 175 rounds of Arccos data.
        
    My expectation is that the fitting will build an immediate trust level knowing the Array will be fit to my exact aiming tendencies, path bias, stroke type, etc.  I’m hoping to see immediate improvement on the greens from 10’ and in since I'll conceivably be lining up the putter correctly and have something that fits my exact stroke.
    My biggest worry at the moment is how the milled face will feel against the soft White Hot OG insert I spent all last year getting used to.  Long putts could be an issue for a while.
    And if everything falls apart and I stay the exact same I'll at least be able to prove that it’s not the putter, it’s the guy holding the club.

    Not sure if my teenage daughter would be impressed or horrified that I used a Taylor Swift gif
     
    The Fitting:
    Before I get into my scoring I want to put a huge disclaimer out there.  I was not able to get fit for the Array before it had to be ordered for our testing.  Edel rolled out the Array to all corporate owned Golftec’s along with select other fitting studios a few months ago.  Unfortunately all of the Golftec’s in Wisconsin are franchise locations and did not receive their fitting kits before my order had to be placed.  The Club Champions in Wisconsin also chose not to carry the Array line so I did not have an option to get fit.
    If you look at my previous history with putters you can see I’m pretty set on fang style mallet putters.  I ended up matching the specs of my gamer as best as I could for this test: 35" length, face balanced, dot alignment, standard loft and lie.

    First Impressions (18 out of 20)
    Out of the box I was immediately impressed with the Array F-2 putter.  Very clean lines, weight felt comfortable, and the headcover seemed to be well constructed rather than a throw-in afterthought.




              

    I ended up choosing the F-2 with three dot alignment as it most closely resembles my current Odyssey White Hot OG #7 putter.  The styles are very similar, with the Odyssey coming in slightly larger while the Array is 10 grams heavier (563 vs 573 grams for the F-2).

    I'm not sure what alignment plate would have been picked for me through an actual fitting.  While the dots are comfortable to me I wonder how things would have looked with the two line alignment or one of the other 5 options.
    Technology-wise Edel really focuses on the customization available through the fitting process. Their website mentions things like aim/path bias, face rotation, optimizing weight to control your speed, and stroke type being key to finding the perfect putter.  Unfortunately most of those are dependent getting professionally fit for the club.
    The face has a special milling pattern, but Edel doesn’t seem to explain on their site what exactly the pattern does.  I assume it helps with off center hits and is not just a fancy design for visual enjoyment.


    Overall this is hard for me to grade as most of Edel’s claims about the putter are about the customization available through the fitting, and I was not able to be fit.  The putter is unquestionably well made and I have zero reservations about taking it out to the course.  It's familiar yet different enough to be distinguishable from the other five million fang style mallets out there.

    Aesthetics (9 out of 10) 
    I touched on the style a bit already, but if you’ve ever gamed a winged mallet putter you’ll have no problem feeling comfortable with the Array F-2.
    All of the graphics and paint fill are done extremely well with tight tolerances.  You can tell just by looking at it that Edel makes a very high-end putter without being overly flashy about it.  No one in my regular foursome noticed I had a new putter until a few holes into our first round.  Once it was passed around they all remarked on how clean it looked and comfortable hitting a few practice putts.
    Feel of the F-2 is hard to explain.  It’s a forged and machine milled face made out of 1025 carbon steel.  The impact feels more harsh than the white hot insert on my Odyssey, but somehow it also comes off at a slower/softer speed.  I found myself having to purposefully swing a bit harder with the F-2 to make sure I didn’t leave putts short.  The white hot insert seems to bounce/spring off the face while the F-2 is more of a concentrated swing effort to get it rolling the correct speed.

    Big plus on the aethetic side is being able to pick up a ball with the back of the putter.  It may seem like a small detail but I like that they made sure the wings can pick up the ball even with the alignment plate taking up so much space.


    The Numbers (7 out of 10) (indoors only so far)
    In preparation for this test I went to my local home improvement store and purchased a 6’ wide by 21’ long strip of thin carpet.  A makeshift stimpmeter showed the mat rolls somewhere in the 10-11 range.
    I set up a 9 hole course with a putt locations every two feet all the way up to 18’.  The Stack putting app helped me randomize the putt length and keep track of the head to head putter battle.  After the first 144 shots my gamer is a clear winner over the F-2.  As you can see from the table below I have no problem with straight putts less than 10’ but once you get past that mark I start having issues with the Array.

    I’ve taken the F-2 out on the course a few times and so far my on-course experience has mirrored my indoor testing.  I have no doubt the putter has the potential to be great with a proper fitting, but will my off the rack specs show enough on the course to be able to knock the gamer out of my bag?

    Update 5/11/2024:
    On-Course (18 out of 20)
    I’ve been able to take the Edel Array F-2 out on the course for five full rounds during our testing period (a minor miracle this early in Wisconsin).  I have to say that after struggling with the putter indoors I was pleasantly surprised with the improvement I’ve seen in regards to on-course performance.
    Lining up putts with the three dot alignment felt very natural to me.  I had no issues with the ball rolling on my intended line, and frequently ended up with positive Arccos strokes gained putting similar to the round below.

    The only area where I really struggled with the Array was the softer feel compared to my gamer.  A few times I came up very short on long putts and was faced with a 5+ foot knee knocker to avoid a three putt.  Thankfully the putter was solid enough to make more than miss in those situations.  For good and bad, this putter is a two-putt machine.

    The Good, the bad, the inbetween (17 out of 20)
    My favorite part of this putter is the overall look.  It’s a very familiar looking #7 fang style putter, but is different enough with the black and silver contrasting colors to be unique.  The only thing I would change when looking down at the putter is to add a dot closer to the face.  The alignment plate sits back just a little too far for me.

    The grip I ended up picking blind was just OK.  I chose the flat standard rubber grip but wish I had gone with a more familiar SuperStroke or Evnroll TourTac grip.  The putter and headcover scream well-made brilliance while the grip seems like something you would find on a putter from 20 years ago.  I would love to see Edel follow the lead of so many other putter companies and offer a SuperStroke type grip as a standard option.

    I love the fact that you can buy additional alignment plates and club weights on the Edel website.  Cost is a little on the high side ($50 for two weights, $45 for an alignment plate), and you shouldn't need anything else after going through a fitting, but it's nice to have options if something doesn't feel quite right on the course.
    I'm also not sure how I feel about the difficulty to try these putters out before buying.  The only place to be able to test out the Array line in the entire state is one of four Golftec locations.  I didn't deduct any points for that, but I hope that in the future we'll start to see more fitting kits out in the wild.
    Play it or Trade it? (18 out of 20)
    If I sent my Arccos stats for the Array F-2 to a random golfer they would say “Congrats, you found yourself a great putter!”  I would agree based solely on the strokes gained numbers and overall confidence I had on the greens.  The problem is it could not beat out my previous gamer.  Here are the head to head stats along with the average 4.0 index according to Arccos.  The stats are calculated off the last 100 shots for each club.

    Two putt percentage a full 15% above the average and 10% above my gamer?  That's amazing!  Also can't beat the low three putt percentage and positive strokes gained.
    What’s not to like about the Array?  80% two putt percentage makes me feel a little like Rory at the 2022 Open (he two putted all 18 greens to finish in 3rd place).  Absolutely fantastic to limit the three putts but every once in a while you get frustrated not being able to walk off the green with a one-putt birdie or par saver.
    Rather than choose between Play it or Trade it I’d like to go with a 3rd category; keep it as my backup.  I guarantee that at some point over the next few weeks/months my gamer will go cold and need to be put in a timeout.  It’s great to know that I have such a fantastic putter in the Array F-2 waiting to be put in play.

    (will probably happen sooner rather than later)
    Conclusion
    The Edel Array F-2 is a great putter.  With the huge number of customization options I would highly recommend you get fit before purchasing.  Finding a location to get fit at may be an issue but once you have your specs dialed in there will be no looking back.  The forged face comes off softer than I expected but I had no issues getting the ball rolling on my intended start line.  The only change I would make to my setup is to possibly replace the flat standard rubber grip with an upgraded SuperStroke style grip.
    I'm really nitpicking here though.  These are great putters.

    Thanks again to MGS and Edel for this incredible opportunity! 
    Final Score (87 out of 100)
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    Quite proud of this one... well the photos and the creativity of it. Was a fun project and marks the end (for now) of the on going how to series!
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    Testers Announced! The Stack

    Do have the need, the need for me speed!?  These testers do and will be putting the whole system to the test. With nearly 5k submissions it was not easy to narrow down, but we have our testers!
    The Stack System was designed by Dr. Sasho MacKenzie and Marty Jertson and "allows Sasho to share his research findings and training wisdom directly with you, using the same tools, techniques, and nuances that he uses to speed train Tour players he has consulted."
    This is a long term test and testers will be required to provide regular updates throughout, follow the thread and be sure to not miss a step along the way. 
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