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My guess is that supply chain issues for shafts, grips and potentially heads are still a concern for the brands and they aren’t going to give away stock for testing over paying customers.

Based on the current agreement they have in place yes. Will it hold up in court, don’t know, but that’s what several Of the posts in here and other related threads have wondered too as well as lawyers on all sides have already been putting in hours looking at all the legalese

If you want to get better get lessons. There are alot of training aids that may or may not work for you and to an extent required you to teach yourself how to swing. There are members on various forums that went the training aid route and didn’t get better A good pro will show you what’s wrong, how to fix and drills to work on

The exact punishment hasn’t been specified by the tour but it could be a fine or suspension which means he would be able to come back after the fine was paid or the suspension period ended. The other punishments mentioned was lifetime ban, which means there’s no coming back. So the KFT might not be the easiest way back had he just taken the punishment

If you are hitting into nets and practicing the golf swing the lack of on course time should very little to do with distance inconsistency. This is where lessons will help, your contact on the face is inconsistent. Lessons with proper practice will help that This is a fitting not a lesson

First random thought. People think too small. Second one. The internet gives some good laughs.

I think it definitely opens a door for them. Makes getting into events easier based on current seeding, guys outside the top 125 and in that 125-150 range should get more chances

5 wins in nearly 500 starts. Basically a 37 year old journeyman. Like many of the names on the list for the first even him not playing the pga tour doesn’t hurt anyone. The bonus of less slow play is a win for the fans. As far as him quitting, he lost the game of chicken

Again if one has a machine and tests the loft and lie they will get a reading and can compare to the ordered specs and have and idea if where they are at. Then while using the clubs if they think something is off they can be adjusted. That’s the benefit of having one’s own machine, it really doesn’t matter what the spec is, you can do what needs to be done to get them where a person wants. There’s going to be tolerances between each person that measures. Even if you had the same machine as the clubs were built on the way the person uses the machine is going to have some variances. Imo there’s a lot of overthinking in this. it doesn’t really matter if it’s 61.5° or 62° if the ball flight does what the person wants and in lie testing the line is on point

There is no range to compare to. You don’t know what the lie was when you got them so you don’t now if or how much they have moved from that point. You also don’t know what type of was used to measure them when they were built or what any type of tolerance that machine has. So you are starting at whatever they are measured at on your machine and will adjust them to what you need based on your testing of lie angle. You could compare your reading to what the stabdard spec is on srixons website to see how close they are to what you ordered but again that doesn’t mean anything at this point if you are trying to dial in lie angle based on your current needs from testing of lie, face contact and ball flight

Here’s the question. If you have a machine for loft and lie what does it matter how off spec it is. You are going to make adjustments based on what the current lie is to what you need. So it deadly doesn’t matter if your machine is 1/2° off from someone else’s. If you need 1° flat based on your lie test you bend it 1° flat from where it’s at now.

This is what I’m trying to tell you. An instructor isn’t going to have someone swing on a plane board with a grip that’s going to cause them to hit bad shots. The plane board is a tool used to help golfers make better swings. Instructors are going to watch their student swing, they are going to check their grip, watch how the club and body move and how that influences what happens in the transition and downswing. Based these observations they will make the necessary adjustments to the student and use whatever tools they think are needed to help the student. Someone with a weaker grip has to manipulate the wrists and arms more to set the club properly compared to a neutral or strong grip. Most instructors are going to have a student with a weaker grip change to more neutral or possibly stronger grip. From an instructor standpoint they are going to help the student swing better and with less manipulation to help increase consistency in the movement patterns to help improve consistency in strike patterns. Dr Kwon os smart when it comes to biomechanics and he’s an elite instructor. Knowing how the body moves helps instructors work with their students to make swings that their body is capable of and not have them do something they can’t physically do. So no there are no good instructors who are going to have the student get bad perceptions by using a swing plane. Which is why as they video went on Martin out Sara in the impact position and drew the line. Same with the video from Mike Bender. But also let’s not forget some of tigers best years were with a single plane swing and Bryson has had success with it as well. You’ve done a lot of research/reading/studying in theory but seems like you don’t have the knowledge of the teaching aspect of how to apply knowledge of the golf swing to the actual golf swing or how any of the instructors teach the golf swing to average every day golfers up thru the really good golfers

Face contact is something good to look at but let’s say you hit the center of the face, and the ball starts right and keep going right? What does the face contact tell you? Ball flight will tell you face was open, but without any swing data from a launch monitor or video you have no idea why or what to do to correct it? If you can’t see what you are doing how do you know what to change?

Again hideki can add that at anytime. So checking at the start only captures that moment. Don’t forget it’s not illegal for him to have that club in that manner in his bag, he just can’t use it. But also again it’s on the player to know the rules and what he or she can or can’t do. The rules officials are there to address infractions when they occur. I’m this case it occurred when he used it on the first tee.

It’s counter productive to your issue. Slicers comes form over the top and have an out to in path. This drill is to fox that type of swing. Coming too far from the inside is a block or push fade for those who can’t close the face or don’t make enough compensation with the body to get the club square. The other miss in a pull. The two way miss is common for too inside of a swing. More than likely what’s happening in your club is too flat in the backswing or is off plane on some other manned and you steepen the club in transition. Only options are to have the club get stuck and cause one to early extend or dip the trail shoulder. This drill isn’t going to fix those and might make it worse.

They would have to test each club after every practice round, after every tournament round. Again the same would have to be done for the heads that are on the tour vans at the start then when they were built for a player. A player can modify their club with hotmelt or lead tape and it could affect the results of the CT test. Also if a club tests out of spec it’s not confiscated and iirc the serial number isn’t noted so a player could actually use one out of spec and nobody would know. Now in the case of Matsuyama it’s a clear violation of the rules for substance on the face of a club. That is something that could be applied at anytime before a round and wouldn’t be known unless it was seen and tested like it was in this case. There’s a limit for what and how much can be added to a face before it’s illegal. His crosses the threshold

Some simple ways are having a thought box/practice swing box for all the thoughts and feels then have a swing box over the shot where there are no thoughts because you just did all that before you addressed the ball Another approach is what GG teaches. Away from the ball you take everything in relax, determine what shot you want to hit create a feel for that then go into a place where you visualize the shot, clear out all thoughts and things around you, he says he almost goes to sleep when he does this then approach the ball and execute. This doesn’t take long as a pre shot routine (this is similar to what Jason day does, he’s just super long about it) Alsd go read Dr Bob Rotella’s books

Wrx has a deal with the pga tour. They have been at tour events for several years taking photos and have signed a deal this year with the pga tour. They post pics in threads from the events with different witb. That picture was taking to show his clubs and what it looks like. There was no ill intent. Again I’ll point to the article posted above, he has done similar to his driver in the past but it wasn’t an issue because it wasn’t thick enough per the standards. Nobody had a gotcha moment to cause controversy or get back at matsuyama and so on. Its the player and/or his caddies fault and nobody else’s. They can’t literally test every club at an event. They would not only have to test every club in a players bag but their backup and all the heads from every brand that are on the tour truck. They are tested before they go on the approved equipment list. Once on there they are approved for play and only tested randomly at events.

People with weak or neutral grips don’t swing the same as those with strong grips. The wrists and forearms work differently in each of those three grip styles as well as to how the body reacts to where the shaft is at in the swing and how it makes the compensation for that. So you cant make the assumption of what is being shown in that video to all grips, some grips or other swing aspects. Good instructors or elite instructors aren’t going to teach someone to make a bad swing. They are going to loom at what the golfer does and what they are trying to accomplish with the swing and help the golfer get into better positions. If the golfer has a weak grip or even a neutral one and the block the ball or hit pushes they aren’t going to have that person swing in a way that makes that result worse. They are either going to strengthen the grip and/or position them in a manner to swing differently. Just like someone with a strong grip who is prone to pulls and hooks. The instructor isn’t going to have that person swing in a manner that’s going to have the ball go further in that direction. You have to understand the golf swing is about matchups. looking into all the science and data that Dr Keon, AMG and some others do is cool for those into that, but these guys also have the ability to translate all that into working with the avg Joe golfer and making them better by fixing their faults. no offense but imo some of these basics of the swing are things you are lacking in your understanding and I would suggest looking into the material that GG has on his training site, AMGs website and youtube, Eric Congornos website and YouTube, Monte Scheinblum website and Chris Ryan’s YouTube. Learn and understand how the swing works from that perspective

Using something in a practice round doesn’t guarantee it will be used in a tournament round, so why report something that’s not an infraction at the time and it wasn’t the wrx reporter that alerted the rules official. also it’s not illegal to have in the bad as long as he doesn’t use it. He used it so therefore he broke the rules. substance in the face can increase distance by reducing spin. So yes it could actually help him. As noted in the article had it not been so thick he would have been ok. It helps to know what the rules are and why.

You must have decided to skip or ignore the last part of the video where he talks about the difference between address and impact and puts her in the impact position twice. Also here is Mike Bender another highly regarded teacher using a plane board and have shaft lean https://www.instagram.com/tv/CcYMo89ghbl/?igshid=YmMyMTA2M2Y=

Just like with the driver threads you asked about shafts nobody here can say what shaft works for you in a 3wood. The Alta being a Ping designed shaft and only sold with their clubs it may be hard to find one on the secondary market. But since it’s a counterbalanced shaft you could look at some of the softer playing counterbalanced shafts like UST helium, smoke rdx blue, bassara, fubuki zt, tensei orange. Even a Ping tour 65 shaft could work. But then again a countenanced shaft may not work for your swing in a 3w. I know people want the easy answer and to hear play this shaft but there’s a lot that goes into how a shaft works for people from the feel of the shaft itself, the weight and balance of the club with the shaft and how those feels affect one’s swing. So the options are go get fit and see what shaft works for one’s swing the good thing with Ping is usually what works for someone carries over from release to release. It’s also why the design of the Alta and tour shafts haven’t changed in awhile, they work in every release As for the adapter you can swap a shaft into that adapter but keep in mind some club builders don’t recommend swapping shafts into adapter more than a couple times.

Yes but the sharpie test is telling you what happens when the club finally makes contact with the ball where the lie board is telling you when the club makes contact with the board and for most amateurs that’s before contact, and we know from previous posts the op hits slightly behind the ball as noticed by his fitter. For the most part agree here, especially if someone has a relatively consistent ball flight/starting line but doesn’t compress the ball. For others tweaking lie can improve start line and also overall ball flight.

As the article mentions it lined up for the extreme over the top guy, but it also talks about where the golfer was making contact and that hitting behind the ball then bouncing into the ball where the toe isn’t going to be as toe down at that point. This is why imo the best fitters use what their eyes show them in ball flight, compare it with the numbers on the monitor and also understand the golf swing and what the golfer is doing during the swing and at impact. It’s also why some will use length to test changes rather than lie angle adjustments. Also why I think the sharpie test is better for most people because it tells you what happens when the club hits the ball. Also interesting in that article that they reference the biometric aka static fitting yet I haven’t seen a single Ping rep including the ones from hq who drive the tour van around the country in the spring and early summer do any static measurements for iron fittings. I was fit for i20s when they came out (the rep is one of the first non engineer pxg hires and is the lpga rep) ie1s and i210, no static measurements used No idea, I let those who do club building and repair worry about that. If I don’t like what I see I have them adjust it as needed, so if their machine is off that’s fine because the loft will be adjusted by whatever is needed based on what their machine shows. Also remember if whoever built the clubs uses machine a and you use machine b, there could be tolerance differences there. Sharpie test will tell you how much you need to adjust based on what your current lie angle is. it’s best to baseline what your irons are when they arrive and before hitting them to avoid any changes from use as Kenny mentions Possibly

Yes flat but what is flat for one brand may not be flat for another. Zx5 irons have a lie angle of 62° for the 7i. Mizuno mp and jpx use 61.5° and titleist uses 63°. These are the ones I know off the top of my head from recent searches. With a lie board it’s possible to be suspect. The sharpie marker test is more accurate and cheaper than buying wood and using tape. Depends on what you mean by accuracy is are they built to spec? Then that would be done via loft and lie machine. If you mean accurate for your swing aka optimized that would be lie angle test using the sharpie marker test. This is used by many high level fitters. Loft would be via launch monitor numbers to see if launch, spin, peak height, land/descent angle are optimal for the club. The cheap way is to look at ball flight and also stopping power on the greens. Ball flight can also be used to see if lie angle needs to be adjusted. The sharpie test is going to show you where on the face you hitting the ball as well as a line to show you if your current lie angle is good (line straight up and down) or if its needs to be flatter or more upright