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John S

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  • Birthday 06/05/1956

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  1. Not sure I understand the issue or the debate on this matter. Virtually every manufacturer offers a "players" club, typically standard lofts, smaller profile, thin to line, forged. They then offer a Players Performance or Players distance club, this option typically has a max COR face ( usually 2 piece welded with a light thin strong face on a forged " shell". IN all cases the goal is to max distance without going to a massive head, this is accomplished with the face, jacked lofts, longer lighter shafts. The final options fall into game improvement which are the "tennis racquets", large profile, thick top line, low CG, Long shafts, all designed to get the ball in the air and optimize miss hits. If you are playing the proper club in the line, the difference from older "classic" clubs to the newest players clubs should not be extreme. The lofts are conventional, the head/ face are forged, the lengths are standard, CG is not typically exceptionally low, and the performance is consistent with 4 degree gaps between clubs yielding standard and consistent distance. The muscle back versions of the Players club options play exactly like the older versions in my opinion with the possible exception of the shaft options which are newer technology and design and could yield significant differences. If you are playing an older muscle back with a TT Dynamic Gold in the same weight as an older version, the difference should be minimal comparing your older "classic" to the new 620MB for example. They should perform very similar. Maybe there is a slight change in location of CG ( higher or lower) and overall face size, but the difference should be minimal. If you are comparing to T100s or any player distance club the difference will be significant as the player distance club design is a relatively new category and features jacked lofts, longer lighter shafts, maxed out COR faces, etc. These clubs can have "distance Gaps" and HOT spots on the face that result in inconsistent distance and performance Make sure you are focused on the "players clubs" in the line if your goal is standard lofts and a performance profile that is similar to older classic designs. Also make sure the shaft is a similar EI profile to the shaft in your older club. Newer shafts designs can have a significant performance difference. There was no such thing as a 90 gram stiff shaft 10 years ago. Just look at the KBS line of shafts to get an overview of the many and varied shaft designs. KBS was not even a company 20 years ago. They have shafts with all sorts of specific design goals and the weight range is extraordinary. Same is basically true with True Temper, Nippon, etc etc. IF you want similar results to your older "classic" clubs be sure to match up a modern shaft to the shaft in the clubs you have. Most often any fitter can do this for you. Usually is comes down to similar weight, kick point, and stiffness.
  2. Been there, done this. I was one of the early members in this club. I selected a Maverick. After about 3 months I thought I would send it back and try a Ping driver ( simply because I could) and that is when I found out the trade process took weeks. In mid season I was expected to send my dollar driver club " driver back, when it was received and checked in they would then send me a new one. I pushed back and asked what they expected me to use for the weeks involved in executing the trade. The answer was "policy" as they had experienced issues in the past. This was not workable for me so I simply paid for the balance on the Maverick, kept the club, and opted out of the club. Maybe they "fixed" this issue but to me it was a hurdle that seemed to make trades difficult by design. I will say the buy out price on the Callaway driver was fair and competitive to best prices on the market. I assume the shaft trades work the same way. Just was not a good plan for me but it may work fine for others
  3. I would welcome the opportunity to test this putting system. My handicap is 5 John Smith Spyder 65 years old I play 3-4 times weekly
  4. Seems right in my wheelhouse, I have about 10 putters, after selling several to second swing golf, I have all the tools to counter balance driver shafts and routinely adjust weights, balance point etc. This test may keep me busy for the entire summer. John Smith 65years old, 5 handicap- play 3-4 rounds weekly Located near Albany/ Saratoga NY
  5. Pay for a FITTING ONLY, get your specs and shop for clubs. That is the prudent and fair way to go. You are not taking "free services" and you are letting the free market drive you buying decision. If you pay for the fitting, get a clear definition of your specs and profile, you can use several channels to get your clubs such as - Direct form the Mgf, Online reputable suppliers like Second Swing Golf, Dallas Golf and others. Since when are we obligated to buy at what we perceive to be a higher than market price for anything. Do your homework, pay for your specs and fitting and if CC is in the ballpark give them the order- just opinion
  6. Add the Elks Club ( Southern Pines Golf Club) - Donald Ross gem now being run by the Pine Needles/ Mid Pines mgnt- Kelly Miller - Pat McGowan etc; Great track, super value.
  7. The Ping 700's are a club that focuses on distance and in doing so the engineering goal objective keeping the club light . The stock spec for 700's is C9(4-8) which is light with the wedges set at D1-d2. Most stock irons are at least D0 with D2 a very common stock weight. You may be feeling this difference which is by design and may be noticeable depending on what you were using in the past. If you have the swing weights checked you can confirm exactly where you are presently and then determine a plan to achieve a swing weight that is desired. You could pull the existing shafts, add weight and re-insert the shaft as a possible solution. Changing shafts is another option but more costly. A rule of thumb is every 9 grams in shaft weight results in a 1 point swing weight change. The shaft option would depend on what you have now and how much weight change would result from installing an alternative shaft option A cheap "quick fix" to verify if this swing weight change will solve the issue is to swing balance the 700 club to D2, for example, using lead tape as a temporary measure. Keep in mind the tape may or will change the CG ( center of gravity) so the weight of the club may feel great but if the distribution is low the club may launch higher. This is a bit of a fishing expedition however I would recommend the following 1 Establish present weight ( probably C9) 4-8, 1/2 point heavier for 9 and a couple points added for wedges. 2. Pick a target weight - D2 possibly - I would suggest moving up more than one swing weight for testing 3. Have a club tech add lead tape to get you the desired swing weight, and test the "feel"/ result. I would adjust a single iron (7 iron) and hit it with the existing 8 ( not modified) to see if there is a big change between the two clubs. 3. IF the increased swing weight moves you in the desired direction then discuss options to get your clubs modified to a revised swing weight permanently. If you choose to do this you may want to pull the existing shafts and add weight to the tip of the shaft and reinstall. NOTE- the swing weights in the 700 set change as you progress to wedges. For this reason you may end up having to adjust 4-9 only.
  8. With respect to the issue with the "chips". Titleist will/should stand behind their product regardless of who you purchased this from. I would ask your Pro to contact his Titleist Representative ( regional factory rep that sells to the private club) and let him take a look at it. OR go to any local demo day and ask the Titleist Rep directly. The last thing they want is a dissatisfied person around the many potential customers they are trying to sell clubs to. If your private Club is having a demo day you may get a very positive response from the regional Rep if you approach him with your issue. If this is indeed a manufacturing defect they will resolve your issue. I once had a head go bad and Titleist actually sent me 2 replacement heads. I let then know and they told me to just keep the extra for my troubles. I have a good view of Titleist as a company as a result however I know the response can be subjective depending on the individual that handles the claim. With respect to the negative comments about your swing, I would say that club heads have to stand up to mishits by design since most EVERYONE, even the guys who view themselves as superior players, mishit drivers. The thought that chips on the crown from mishits are acceptable and the fault of the player as opposed to a design flaw is laughable.
  9. Points on distance control have the greatest merit in my opinion. Todays Player distance and GI options increase overall distance however the drop off in distance resulting from sweet spot contact compared to heel/toe mishits is very significant. While blades or even CB options offer less overall distance, the drop off for mishits ( as a percentage of total distance) is less significant. This results in a smaller "spread" between sweet spot pure contact and heel toe slight misses and better overall distance control. Typical pro's are not in need of the additional distance, control is the greater goal. Amateurs' are most always looking for the extra 10 yards total distance on their irons as a primary goal. An example of this is the Mizuno 210 vs the Hot metal options for the same club. No question the 210's are super consistent however they are probably a club shorter than the Hot Metal version of the same club. The spread on the Hot Metal club on sweet spot vs toe/heel hits can easily be a full club. Flush on the mark sweet spot hits can sometimes add a full club distance. The 210's are a half club difference at the most on comparable contact differences. Not a scientific analysis but if you hit the two clubs I would suggest you may see similar patterns.
  10. John Smith- COhoes NY Model Zelos 6 stiff Swing Speed 89 Current Shaft/Flex In Use- Project X LZ 120 stiff
  11. First Name/City State John Smith- Cohoes, New York Current Handicap or Average 18 Hole Score 4.6 Current Iron Model Played Ping I500
  12. John Smith - Colonie NY Volkey SM7 54, 58 Test wedge preference 50,54, 58 Thank you John
  13. I have been playing golf for 45 years, I became very active in my early 30's and have played regularly since. I love the game on many levels. As a player I love the fact that you can never master this game. You always have room to improve and age only increases the opportunity for adjusting expectations and improving on a relative scale I believe golf exposes who a person is. You can not "hide". You can learn more about a person in one round of golf than you might learn in years of casual contact. The "cheater" is exposed, as is the "whiner or excuse maker" as is the "great guy" the person with integrity, the person you can trust with your wife and your wallet while you are away for a month. Many of my lifelong friendships originated on a golf course. I have been following My Golf Spy for years. I think you are truly providing a service to the consumer cutting past the hype and exposing the realities beyond the marketing. I read the postings constantly, listen to the podcasts, read the annual reviews etc. I think this is a great source of high level golf related informaiton I am brought to My Golf Spy seeking information, true reviews, and connection to other informed golf enthusiasts I am from Colonie NY, I am a member at Colonie Country Club and have played most courses in my region over the past 40 years. The best thing about my region is the access to a wide variety of courses, designed by some of the legends such as Ross, Mac Kensie, Tillinghhast, MacDonald, Raynor, Emmet etc etc. This area has a rich history and the courses reflect this history. Courses such as The Sagamore, Glens Falls Coutry Club, Taconic, Dorset Field Club, Equinox, Ekwanoc, Wolfreds Roost, Troy CC, Mohawk, Edison, and recent additions such as Colonie CC, Saratoga National, Links at Unionvale, Okemo, and so many others feature works by some of the best golf architects past and present. This is a great region to play golf. The downside without question is the short season I am a semi retired consultant My user name lacks originality as it is basically my initials. My lifelong nickname is Smitty
  14. I agree with the comment on maxed out center hit technology. The area with potential for MASSIVE improvement is AI applied to shaft development and the tightening of specs so a player can select a shaft for swing speed with a ( for example) 1-10 rated butt, mid and tip spec. Combining AI with swing profiles/ speed and tightening manufacturing specs to produce a defined, measured shaft profiles will be the next area of dramatic driver distance improvement. Your face is maxed out, your shaft has HUGE potential for specialization and improvement. I anticipate a day when you send a video of your swing, some data on swing speed, and you are FIT to a profile that can be produced to exact spec. Right now you test a "labeled" shaft, order it, and receive a shaft in a "RANGE" that may or may not be even remotely similar to the shaft you tested. The manufacturing spec is too broad, the inspection process is almost non existent and yet we order $500 shafts with a label that may be far from accurate. This is the area of greatest potential improvement in my opinion
  15. John - New York Handicap 5 Clubs: Ping I500. Ping G700, and Mizuno Hot Metal Pro ( self admitted club junkie) All are 4-P stiff shaft 7 Iron Carry 155
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