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  1. Today I went to Club Champion(Charlotte, NC) for a putter fitting. I was unsure about getting fitted inside in a small area, much like the setup at a Golf Galaxy or Dicks, but the SAM Putt lab is what sold me on the idea. It didn’t hurt that it was 33% off during their winter promotion so I figured $67 was well worth the information I’d get. In my 2 1/2 years in the game I’ve had one putter. An Odyssey White Hot Pro #1 that I'm quite fond of. I got it on clearance after spending some time rolling balls around at Golf Galaxy, something about it just felt right. I love my putter but I was ready to make a change if i had good reason to believe there was a better option for me. Bruce Raffe was my fitter and he was great, highly recommended. I was actually surprised to find that a lot of the feelings I had were correct. Turns out all I needed was a length, loft and lie adjustment. He also added some weight to the butt of the shaft. I have a very straight backstroke and a slight arc stroke so my blade was close but it was too long and the lie was off. I also needed some loft with my natural forward press to get better roll. I noticed a difference as soon as he made the changes and the putt lab agreed. The biggest thing I got was better roll and I kept the face square longer. Sounds great to me. Moral of the story, i feel like it was worth the money($118 total after the counter-balance weight and a new grip) to learn about my stroke and get my putter tweaked. I can’t wait to get out on the course to see some real results. Even though I still believe that a real putting green is best, i would highly recommend this type of fitting. If the putt lab had suggested a different type of putter, I wouldn’t buy one until I tried it on a real green. But in my case, this was enough to get me rolling the ball better and hopefully making more putts! Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
  2. Strong but nothing crazy. I went stronger to help square the face when I was struggling with slicing and now it’s just become so natural I wouldn’t change it. It’s become a comfort thing, even though I’m drawing the ball now, going weaker really messes me up. I lose what feel I do have. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
  3. As far as the strategy, the only difference from mine is that I’d be hitting iron-iron as apposed to wood-wedge, assuming good strikes. Wedges are usually my best clubs, irons usually my worst, Woods fall somewhere in between. I feel like the chance of losing a tee shot or two a round with my woods is worth the distance. I don’t strike my irons as well as my woods on average and I’d have to hit them twice. I feel like my length is one of my advantages and I’d be taking that away. I’d like to test the idea just to see my results, haven’t played a round without woods in about a year. The struggle ultimately comes down to strike. I’ve fought fat mostly, usually toe strikes. I struggle with face control but that’s gotten much better since I started playing a draw. I figured out that for whatever reason, I always start the ball at or left of target. That makes it hard to play a fade because it usually moves away from target. My left to right dispersion is much better with a draw. But some days I draw and some days I fade. Usually after a few holes I have to make adjustments based on my strike and shape that day. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
  4. I agree, I have every intention of hitting the green but my skill level limits that and that’s why my thought process on strokes accounts for that. I guess strategy may be the wrong word. Either way, to me it just simplifies how to get where I want to be. It’s reasonable for me at my handicap to hit a tee shot in play and give myself a shot at the green, hit an approach, at least close to the green, chip on, then two putt. I can do that when I strike the ball reasonably. So I’ll keep on working on my full swing and ball striking, until I get there. Self diagnosis currently shows an inability to tie my whole game together. Always seems to be a group of clubs I’m struggling with in a round. Changes from round to round, sometimes within a round. Actually started the thread Short vs. Long Game about that. I find it interesting that some feel I’m setting myself up for failure not expecting to hit GIRs while others suggest strategies that give me 0 chance of GIRs. I’m interested if I’m the only one assuming GIR regardless of handicap...that would explain some of the confusion. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
  5. Honestly I’ve never heard that before. It makes a lot of sense though. My GIRs just went way up lol Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
  6. I see stuff like that all the time but I disagree completely with the idea. I hit longest club off the tee that doesn’t get me in trouble. I don’t see how adding strokes to your strategy will take strokes off your score. That’s just adding more shots I have to execute. I mean a poor drive and a layup is no different than 2 iron shots. At least the driver gives me a chance to get a wedge in my hand and hit the green in regulation. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
  7. Not quite. GIR is the furthest thing from my mind. Again, I get it for better players it is a trend for better scoring, not disputing that. GIR is a byproduct of hitting better shots, not a realistic strategy for me. Think of it this way, would you tell a 20 handicap they need to make more birdies to offset the doubles/triples and score better? Absolutely not, but in a roundabout way, that’s what you’re saying. Hitting greens and giving yourself a chance with the putter...sounds like birdies to me. Kind of putting the cart before the horse. 90 is my best score, so that’s my goal, get there consistently. By the numbers, I don’t have to hit a single green to get there without putting pressure on my short game. Decent tee shot, reasonable approach close to the green, chip it onto the green and 2 putt. Simple and realistic for my handicap. Then with my putting average(1.7) and up/down percentage(31%) that could take me down to mid 80s on a good day. That would be overall 10 strokes better than where I’m at now. I guess what I’m saying is it’s more about limiting mistakes, especially triples, and being more consistent, and the rest of it will come in time. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
  8. Thank you. You’d be hard pressed to find many putts longer than 30’ at my home course. Another thing I noticed as I stood center green, small greens, I figure about 3500 sq. ft. average. I’m going to get fitted for a putter in a few weeks so hopefully I learn more about my putting stroke and what I need there. In the mean time I need to figure out my ball striking. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
  9. Well I got a round in today, not one I’m proud of, but I figured a few things out that I can’t wait to get to the range. Anyways, I did the drill on the greens and overall no real surprises. I had a below average day putting with 36 putts. Then 40 putts via the center of the green. The biggest thing I took from it was great putting practice. I suspect that many of the center green putts were influenced by the real putts given that I’d already hit my real putts. Some of them weren’t very different at all. I was more confident in read/speed on the center green putts but some of them were very difficult. Almost all of my real putts were shorter and more were pin high. That being said, it’s all based on the luck of pin locations. If I was actually hitting greens, the center green putts wouldn’t be bad. Problem being, I give up too many shots tee to green, so my short game carries the load. Much like I’ve said before, I’m hitting chips and pitches short distance so I should be closer to the pin than if I were hitting greens in regulation. I did notice some trends with my putting related to distance. My lag putting is pretty good. I feel like I have a window of about 6’ - 12’ were I feel confident I’ll get it close. Inside of that I feel more pressure to make it and outside of that sometimes I’m not confident with speed. Biggest thing I see is that I need to work on my swing and hit better shots tee to green and take the pressure off of my short game. I feel like my confidence putting would be much greater over the same putt if it were for birdie instead of bogey. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
  10. I agree, in theory, to the idea of the shotgun pattern on approach shots. Better players absolutely because their dispersion is reasonable. I feel like as a higher handicap, my wider dispersion makes it hard to do so. The balance between guarding against a miss hit and keeping good shots out of trouble becomes harder. But I guess that’s why high handicaps are high handicaps. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
  11. Next time I play, hopefully Sunday, I’ll test the center green theory. I understand the thought process but its kind of comparing apples to oranges, isn’t it? Lots of assumptions but I’m always up for a good test to get more information. Golf is such a dynamic game and their are so many variables. I have a hard time getting myself to buy into these systems/strategies that people are always pushing. That’s why mine is so basic. I have a hard time getting myself to do something I feel is going to get me in trouble and cost me strokes. Admittedly stubborn and I really have to see something to believe it, always a skeptic. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
  12. Talking strategy, my thought process is pretty simple, I’m playing for bogey. That is my tee shot, my approach, a chip, and 2 putt. That puts me square at 90. I take my longest club off the tee that doesn’t get me in a hazard. Once I’m around the green, my goal is 6’ with my wedge and 3’ with my putt. To me that’s as simple as it can be. I don’t like the idea at adding strokes strategically, like playing shorter clubs and laying up, with the idea that i would be more consistent with them because it’s just adding more shots that I have to execute. Now that could change if there is a certain club or clubs I’m struggling with or hitting very well. This year I haven’t dropped my handicap like I had hoped, but I have worked on my swing a lot and made gains. My biggest issue I’ve seen this summer is inconsistency. My problem area seems to be a moving target. Weather it be driver, irons, wedges, putting. Just trying to put it all together really. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
  13. Well it starts with realistic expectations. I feel like those stats can get you in the right direction for expectations but that’s about it. That’s what I was really looking for when I started this thread, something for comparison. From there i think it’s about playing your game and analyzing shots. Look at your stats, spot trends, then dig deeper. For instance, my GIR is ridiculously low even though I feel like I’ve done alright on approach shots. So digging deeper, I started tracking actual approach shot success to separate them from tee shots. Last week I figured out that even though I only hit 2 GIR, I hit 8 greens on my first attempt. Changes the way I approach what I need to work on. My experiment on the putting green kind of reinforces my thought process. It’s easy to say, oh you need to hit more greens, but why and more importantly how. I know, even though my putts are low, that my putting could use some work. They’re low because I chip well and have short putts. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
  14. I may be crazy but I don’t care for looking at tour player or “average golfer” stats. I mean for me, at about a 20 handicap I’m not learning anything with tour stats and the “average golfer” is no more than a make believe stat line for a non existent golfer. I’m more focused on my game. Play to my strengths and strengthen my weaknesses. To everyone that means something different. Their is no one size fits all answer or system to getting better. Short game has been way easier for me to excel at, not even close. Full swings are way more complex and difficult to repeat. Just my 2 cents. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
  15. So you’re saying if I gift myself 16 shots a round, I’ll score better, what am I missing here... Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
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