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Another quick update post: I just completed my ninth round with my Edel on Monday (most of those are 9 hole rounds). It was far and away the worst putting round I've had since putting the Edel in my bag. As a round summary, Arccos draws a little line with four points: SG driving, approach, short, and putting. Typically, that line starts low and gradually climbs, reflecting that driving was the worst part of my round and putting was the best. Here was my line from Monday's round:

Blech.
I had 18 putts: seven 2-putts, one 1-putt, and a 3-putt. Simply put, I just didn't make anything. Several of those 2-putts were makeable, but I just made nothing. I suspect one problem was that I spent some time practicing putting that day, and went to the course with mechanics in my mind when I was on the green. So I'm hoping that this is an abberation.
Overall, though, the Edel continues to be a very solid addition to my game. Here are my big-picture numbers through the nine rounds, including Monday's disaster:

The -2.0 number is my putting compared to a scratch golfer. So far, the Edel is staying just ahead of the Odyssey it replaced. Before Monday's round, I was hitting my goal for the Edel: a single stroke gained compared to the Odyssey. That gain has dropped to .3 of a stroke; we'll see where it ends up in the next couple of weeks.
Even so, I'm keeping an eye on one number in particular: the SG on 0-10 foot putts. That number remains the worst part of my putting, and it was the number I had hoped to see decrease most with the Edel:

Raw putting numbers are still solid, again compared to scratch:

I have fewer 2- and 3- putts than a scratch golfer and more 1-putts, but that is most certainly mostly due to missing greens and having tiny greens on my home course. That said, even in raw numbers, the Edel is holding its own.

That's freaking awesome @azstu324! It's amazing how much quicker the ball started rolling with the Edel. I had gotten curious thinking about how Evnroll talks about getting rolling sooner and had wondered how Edel stacked up. Thank you!

Please go to the “review section” for the goods!
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Following so I can get notification of updates to the thread.  Very intrigued by the Edel process and as soon as I ever get around a fitting center, I will be going thru it.  I've totally bought into their process.  But in rural Iowa, a fitting opportunity is a long way off it seems.  There is a Club Champion that is about 2 hours away but after talking to them, they only do a general putter fitting, not the full or Edel specific fitting.  Hopefully a fitting opportunity will come around or align with a vacation at some point. 
Looking forward to hearing more of these status reports on the Edel putters.   Thanks guys for the updates you give. 

Well it's been a good minute since I posted something.. 
For starters, no offense to Edel and their grip but I just felt like I had to pimp my own ride just a little. 

It's been a while since I used an oversized grip and I took a gamble but I think it paid off. I'm finding that these heavier-weighted, torque-balanced putters really promote more of a "quiet hands" style of putting stroke. I opted for the Grip Master 2.0 style in Cabretta leather. It's rounded and allows for my stronger right hand to roll over the top (cover). Additionally it's about 30g lighter but I'm finding that it lightened up the club just enough and added just a fraction more feeling back to the head. 
How is the putter performing so far?..
This is from my round yesterday. 1.4 putts avg..? 🤨🤯.. I had to go back through the round and make sure nothing was missed. Nope. The course is a par 61 exec so don't let the score fool anybody. But still with my approach shots not being completely dialed in, it was my putting that saved my score from being even higher. 
I'm gonna come right out and say it again that this thing is a lag putt monster! I've never felt so confident with putts outside 15'. I did also drain 2 putts from the fringe so that definitely helped lower the average. 

Greetings all,
A solid thank you to MyGolfSpy, Edel putters, my fellow testers, and the vast army of the MGS family.
A few days after my fitting I had to fly out of state to help my siblings deal with an ongoing family medical emergency, and I’ll be returning home tomorrow morning.
MGS staff member GolfSpy MPR stepped up to assure me that taking care of my family was without doubt, #1 on their list of concerns, and that MGS will always be there.
Unfortunatly, life has a way of testing us all, and often presents us with situations we would prefer not to have to go thru, yet as the saying goes, “that’s life”, so deal with it. And so that’s what we do. Not a pretty thing sometimes, yet it is, what it is…
I urge everyone here to take a moment to look around you and to appreciate and cherish your family and friends. Tell the people you love, that you love them. You might not get another chance and it’s good for the soul.
Anyways, I’ll be back tomorrow, and will catch up on this thread with gusto, as I have a newfound appreciation of just how lucky I am to be able to play this game as often as I want, with a clear mind and a still reasonable physical ability to do so.
May your putts be true,
Sluggo

Christmas in July!!! Can’t thank MyGolfSpy and Edel enough for this opportunity to be fitted for the first time for a putter or any other cub for that matter.  Although I didn’t get a weight kit or hat or even a specs sheet in my pretty Edel box, I did receive this awesome fitted 4.0 putter, BAM!.  I can’t wait to put it to its paces and report back.  Initial thoughts when at looking down at the putter, I noticed I could see a lot more of the face even though the loft was not altered during my fitting.  So that is something I will be looking at carefully during my testing.  The lines and design looks very clean, although maybe in the distant future a paint job might be considered.

Like I previously mentioned, my fitting took all of 38 minutes compared to my fellow spies.  I had watched all of David Edel’s YouTube videos on his putter fittings just to get an idea of what to expect.  I was expecting my fitting to be more geared towards David’s fitting methodology, but I believe each fitter and location has their own method in using Edel’s fitting cart, but overall my fitter was great to work with, he briefly touched on each of Edel’s fitting points.
My fitter asked what putter I had brought in with me and I showed him my Scotty Cameron M2 mid-mallet putter and what my tendencies were and I told him I usually leave it short and left of the hole.  He attached a mirror on the center of the face and we proceeded with the laser test to see if I was left or right bias, I was left bias.  He mentioned that my putting stroke was good and on point just needed a slight adjustment.
Initially my fitter set me up with a 2.0 putter which had a similar head shape head as my Scotty M2 mid-mallet at 33 inches and proceeded with the laser test again and this time the ball was on a better line, we rolled a few balls at 5 feet and saw that I was still going left and short.  He changed the shaft to a more offset shaft and flattened out the lie to 68 degrees because he noticed that the putter toe was slightly up and also suggested that my left hand be more under the grip to allow for a more fluent straight back and forward stroke.  I hit more putts at 5 feet with this new setup and made all the putts.
He asked if I preferred lines which I did so he drew a single line on top and bottom and had me putt a few more putts which I made them all at 5 feet.  We had few more putting session now at about 10 feet which I left most of them short but more online.  He suggested that I put a counter weight in the grip up.  The putter felt great, it was definitely on the heavy side but when making strokes with it, it felt smooth.  We made a few more putts and the distance was on par with the hole but was still little offline.  He changed the lines to double lines on the top and bottom which allowed me to have better aiming guidelines.
I asked to try out the 4.0 putter with the same shaft and counter weight configurations and we rolled a few putts and I loved the feel and the putts I was making from 10 feet distance, he said that I could go either way putter wise because my lines were all perfect and online towards the hole.
Now on to the field test…

I'm with you on this, @azstu324. One of the putters I've enjoyed the most of the many that have passed through my bag was my Cleveland Elevado TFi 2135. It was an incredibly soft feel, but not squishy. On the other extreme, I wasn't a huge fan of the feel/sound of the Evnroll ER6 I had in my bag for about a year. To me, it felt harsh.
As I wrote above, the Edel's feel is so perfect as to be unnoticeable to me while I'm putting. It literally is not a conscious thought I have while practicing or on the course. I don't mean this to sound like hyperbole: it's not that it feels awesome, or like butter, or any of the other things people write about club feels. Instead, in my judgment, it feels exactly like what I'd expect a milled face putter to feel like. It's a perfect neutral for me.

I'm with you on this, @azstu324. One of the putters I've enjoyed the most of the many that have passed through my bag was my Cleveland Elevado TFi 2135. It was an incredibly soft feel, but not squishy. On the other extreme, I wasn't a huge fan of the feel/sound of the Evnroll ER6 I had in my bag for about a year. To me, it felt harsh.
As I wrote above, the Edel's feel is so perfect as to be unnoticeable to me while I'm putting. It literally is not a conscious thought I have while practicing or on the course. I don't mean this to sound like hyperbole: it's not that it feels awesome, or like butter, or any of the other things people write about club feels. Instead, in my judgment, it feels exactly like what I'd expect a milled face putter to feel like. It's a perfect neutral for me.

And here it is: my introduction, fitting, unboxing, and expectations video! (Pro tip: if you don't want to spend 15 minutes of your life hearing me wax eloquent about putting, change the playback speed to 1.5.)
Let me know what questions you have about the putter or aspects of the testing you'd like to see.

I'm going to get a better mic for this as well, but if you want a simple example of the sound of the Edel, here's a tiny clip:
This is with a Srixon Z Star, which (though softer than the Z Star XV) is still a high compression ball.

I've already got a script in my head of what I intend to tell him 🙂
I'm going to start with what I think I know, with the clear commitment to being willing to learn that I'm wrong.
I'm a decent putter, and it's a strength of my game, relative to handicap. I've got years of on-course stats to back this up, including Arccos the past two years. Over my past 15 rounds, Arccos has my putting SG equal to a 7-handicap. I average just over 30 putts per round. There's a consistent pattern in that data, though: I'm a better putter (by SG) from 10–25' than I am from 0–10'. This is true in the data for virtually every round I play. I miss short putts far too often. Going into this test, this is my highest priority. As for my actual setup and stroke: I've posted about this before, that I don't see the correct line correctly. I can set a 4' ruler on the correct line for a straight 8' putt, aligned with a laser. If I turn off the laser and address a ball at the end of the ruler, the ruler will look to me as though it is pointing almost outside the cup on the left. I have tried moving my head and body around to all sorts of angles without success. If I address a putt from the left side, the line looks correct. Using a home putting analyzer (SwingByte), I therefore tend to aim about 2° right of the cup. My stroke is quirky. Early on, I read Dave Pelz and decided to work on a SBST stroke. Like many who attempt that, I actually ended up with a stroke that tends to move outside the line on my backstroke. Coming into impact, I close the face relative to address, which starts the ball on the correct line, though a line to the left of where I was aimed. On a normal straight putt, my predominant miss is a pull. I'm intrigued, obviously, to see if any of the myriad alignment options on the Edel change my perception of the line. I'm also probably more interested to see if their torque-balanced putter, combined with custom weighting and their grip options, can mitigate some of my tendency to come outside the line on my backstroke.
Of the four headshapes, the rounded back mallet appeals to me subjectively the least: it's just not a shape I've ever really loved. My baseline expectation is that I'd end up with the fanged mallet: I am currently playing with the Toe Up version of the Odyssey Seven. But if I end up with either of the blades, that is no problem either.

So my big reveal, with permission from Edel: Edel has a new owner. He has a cabin in northern Wisconsin, just a couple hours from my home. I'm getting fitted for my Edel EAS by the owner of Edel in a little over a week, when he's at his cabin!

If you're suggesting Kirke: my plan is for him to attend the fitting, but he is not the mystery fitter.

So you're not wrong. The closest fitters are the Club Champion locations in Mineapolis and Milwaukee, and both of those are about a five hour drive from my house.
BUT...
I have news that is currently not fully disclosable. There are circumstances that are going to permit me to go through a full fitting with a really special guest fitter. But the details of that will come....

I'm with you on this, @azstu324. One of the putters I've enjoyed the most of the many that have passed through my bag was my Cleveland Elevado TFi 2135. It was an incredibly soft feel, but not squishy. On the other extreme, I wasn't a huge fan of the feel/sound of the Evnroll ER6 I had in my bag for about a year. To me, it felt harsh.
As I wrote above, the Edel's feel is so perfect as to be unnoticeable to me while I'm putting. It literally is not a conscious thought I have while practicing or on the course. I don't mean this to sound like hyperbole: it's not that it feels awesome, or like butter, or any of the other things people write about club feels. Instead, in my judgment, it feels exactly like what I'd expect a milled face putter to feel like. It's a perfect neutral for me.

I'm with you on this, @azstu324. One of the putters I've enjoyed the most of the many that have passed through my bag was my Cleveland Elevado TFi 2135. It was an incredibly soft feel, but not squishy. On the other extreme, I wasn't a huge fan of the feel/sound of the Evnroll ER6 I had in my bag for about a year. To me, it felt harsh.
As I wrote above, the Edel's feel is so perfect as to be unnoticeable to me while I'm putting. It literally is not a conscious thought I have while practicing or on the course. I don't mean this to sound like hyperbole: it's not that it feels awesome, or like butter, or any of the other things people write about club feels. Instead, in my judgment, it feels exactly like what I'd expect a milled face putter to feel like. It's a perfect neutral for me.

Played 18 on my exec yesterday. They had a recent re seeding mishap so they're growing the greens back out and they're very furry and bumpy.  
That said, I decided to do an experiment and deliberately set up a lag put for most holes. I'm a member here so I have unlimited play which is perfect for an experiment like this.
I wanted to see how consistent I could be with the lag putts being that I've got this new-found confidence with the Edel and distance control on longer putts. After the first few holes and trying to figure out the pace (SLOW), I didn't have one lag putts left outside of 3'. This set me up beautifully for a very make able 2nd putt. I didn't miss any of my 2nd putts this time! 
Imagine probably 12 of the holes below with putts ranging from 15' - 50'. 30 putts isn't all that bad considering I'm utilizing the putter to bail me out on these holes. 

One thing that I'm absolutely falling in love with is the feel of the ball effortlessly releasing off the face with an immediate roll.  It's hard to describe but it's almost like the ball springs off the face but without skipping or bouncing forward. I'm really unsure if this is due to the specific varied hexagon pattern or the substantial total weight.. or both combined. 

The post-honeymoon phase will determine more but I might say that the Edel is a much more rewarding feeling than my HB Premier.. and that's saying A LOT! Maybe not as soft but but just overall a better feel off the face. One of the things I'd like to do is compare the overall feel and weight of the EAS to most putters on the floor at a big-box and see if anything comes remotely close. I argue that there is anything similar. 
 
 

Played 18 with Kirke this morning. (I actually beat him, but I won't rub that in.)
It was my first time playing 18 with the Edel, and my fifth overall round with the putter. Today's round was interesting: I shot an even 80. I had a putt for 79 that missed on the high side. The round also showed the value of using something like Arccos for tracking strokes gained versus merely tracking putts. I had only 27 putts today (9 one-putts and 9 two-putts). But my SG:Putting for the round is -1.7 compared to scratch. I had a couple misses within 10', but only really a single putt that I felt I "should" have made. Otherwise, I was rock-solid on the short putts I was leaving myself with my wedges.

The more interesting graph is this one from Arccos, tracking my most recent five rounds (with the Edel) against the five rounds before that (with Osltubs):

Three things to pay attention to:
Compared to a scratch golfer, I'm losing 1.3 strokes per 18 holes on the green. If I change the comparison, that makes me the equivalent of a 6-handicap on the greens. Since my actual standard of play is somewhere closer to a 13 handicap right now, putting continues to be a relative strong point of my game. Compared to my previous five rounds (you can see this in the fine print), I'm 2.0 strokes better per 18 with the Edel. That's a pretty big performance gain. What I'm really impressed by is the consistency of the performance of the Edel so far. We're still in relatively small sample size territory, but look at how flat that orange line is. Basically, every round I'm going out with the expectation that my putting is going to be steady. I do have a couple of drill updates to post as well, where the Edel didn't fare quite as well. But if the on course performance is there, it's hard to be upset about that.

I'm going to get a better mic for this as well, but if you want a simple example of the sound of the Edel, here's a tiny clip:
This is with a Srixon Z Star, which (though softer than the Z Star XV) is still a high compression ball.

Played 18 with Kirke this morning. (I actually beat him, but I won't rub that in.)
It was my first time playing 18 with the Edel, and my fifth overall round with the putter. Today's round was interesting: I shot an even 80. I had a putt for 79 that missed on the high side. The round also showed the value of using something like Arccos for tracking strokes gained versus merely tracking putts. I had only 27 putts today (9 one-putts and 9 two-putts). But my SG:Putting for the round is -1.7 compared to scratch. I had a couple misses within 10', but only really a single putt that I felt I "should" have made. Otherwise, I was rock-solid on the short putts I was leaving myself with my wedges.

The more interesting graph is this one from Arccos, tracking my most recent five rounds (with the Edel) against the five rounds before that (with Osltubs):

Three things to pay attention to:
Compared to a scratch golfer, I'm losing 1.3 strokes per 18 holes on the green. If I change the comparison, that makes me the equivalent of a 6-handicap on the greens. Since my actual standard of play is somewhere closer to a 13 handicap right now, putting continues to be a relative strong point of my game. Compared to my previous five rounds (you can see this in the fine print), I'm 2.0 strokes better per 18 with the Edel. That's a pretty big performance gain. What I'm really impressed by is the consistency of the performance of the Edel so far. We're still in relatively small sample size territory, but look at how flat that orange line is. Basically, every round I'm going out with the expectation that my putting is going to be steady. I do have a couple of drill updates to post as well, where the Edel didn't fare quite as well. But if the on course performance is there, it's hard to be upset about that.

Played 18 with Kirke this morning. (I actually beat him, but I won't rub that in.)
It was my first time playing 18 with the Edel, and my fifth overall round with the putter. Today's round was interesting: I shot an even 80. I had a putt for 79 that missed on the high side. The round also showed the value of using something like Arccos for tracking strokes gained versus merely tracking putts. I had only 27 putts today (9 one-putts and 9 two-putts). But my SG:Putting for the round is -1.7 compared to scratch. I had a couple misses within 10', but only really a single putt that I felt I "should" have made. Otherwise, I was rock-solid on the short putts I was leaving myself with my wedges.

The more interesting graph is this one from Arccos, tracking my most recent five rounds (with the Edel) against the five rounds before that (with Osltubs):

Three things to pay attention to:
Compared to a scratch golfer, I'm losing 1.3 strokes per 18 holes on the green. If I change the comparison, that makes me the equivalent of a 6-handicap on the greens. Since my actual standard of play is somewhere closer to a 13 handicap right now, putting continues to be a relative strong point of my game. Compared to my previous five rounds (you can see this in the fine print), I'm 2.0 strokes better per 18 with the Edel. That's a pretty big performance gain. What I'm really impressed by is the consistency of the performance of the Edel so far. We're still in relatively small sample size territory, but look at how flat that orange line is. Basically, every round I'm going out with the expectation that my putting is going to be steady. I do have a couple of drill updates to post as well, where the Edel didn't fare quite as well. But if the on course performance is there, it's hard to be upset about that.

Played 18 with Kirke this morning. (I actually beat him, but I won't rub that in.)
It was my first time playing 18 with the Edel, and my fifth overall round with the putter. Today's round was interesting: I shot an even 80. I had a putt for 79 that missed on the high side. The round also showed the value of using something like Arccos for tracking strokes gained versus merely tracking putts. I had only 27 putts today (9 one-putts and 9 two-putts). But my SG:Putting for the round is -1.7 compared to scratch. I had a couple misses within 10', but only really a single putt that I felt I "should" have made. Otherwise, I was rock-solid on the short putts I was leaving myself with my wedges.

The more interesting graph is this one from Arccos, tracking my most recent five rounds (with the Edel) against the five rounds before that (with Osltubs):

Three things to pay attention to:
Compared to a scratch golfer, I'm losing 1.3 strokes per 18 holes on the green. If I change the comparison, that makes me the equivalent of a 6-handicap on the greens. Since my actual standard of play is somewhere closer to a 13 handicap right now, putting continues to be a relative strong point of my game. Compared to my previous five rounds (you can see this in the fine print), I'm 2.0 strokes better per 18 with the Edel. That's a pretty big performance gain. What I'm really impressed by is the consistency of the performance of the Edel so far. We're still in relatively small sample size territory, but look at how flat that orange line is. Basically, every round I'm going out with the expectation that my putting is going to be steady. I do have a couple of drill updates to post as well, where the Edel didn't fare quite as well. But if the on course performance is there, it's hard to be upset about that.

Played 18 with Kirke this morning. (I actually beat him, but I won't rub that in.)
It was my first time playing 18 with the Edel, and my fifth overall round with the putter. Today's round was interesting: I shot an even 80. I had a putt for 79 that missed on the high side. The round also showed the value of using something like Arccos for tracking strokes gained versus merely tracking putts. I had only 27 putts today (9 one-putts and 9 two-putts). But my SG:Putting for the round is -1.7 compared to scratch. I had a couple misses within 10', but only really a single putt that I felt I "should" have made. Otherwise, I was rock-solid on the short putts I was leaving myself with my wedges.

The more interesting graph is this one from Arccos, tracking my most recent five rounds (with the Edel) against the five rounds before that (with Osltubs):

Three things to pay attention to:
Compared to a scratch golfer, I'm losing 1.3 strokes per 18 holes on the green. If I change the comparison, that makes me the equivalent of a 6-handicap on the greens. Since my actual standard of play is somewhere closer to a 13 handicap right now, putting continues to be a relative strong point of my game. Compared to my previous five rounds (you can see this in the fine print), I'm 2.0 strokes better per 18 with the Edel. That's a pretty big performance gain. What I'm really impressed by is the consistency of the performance of the Edel so far. We're still in relatively small sample size territory, but look at how flat that orange line is. Basically, every round I'm going out with the expectation that my putting is going to be steady. I do have a couple of drill updates to post as well, where the Edel didn't fare quite as well. But if the on course performance is there, it's hard to be upset about that.