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31 minutes ago, MissionMan said:
It does because you have to be careful about which drives you take. In our case, par 3's may count but that doesn't help if the shorter hitters don't hit them.
Our last game, I hit 11 fairways in reg excluding par 3's and there were obviously quite a few we couldn't take
It’s a format I like because it forces everyone to be involved in all aspects of the round. It requires some good thinking about who’s shot to use and when.
Most of the guys I’ve played scrambles with were guys I played with almost weekly so we all knew each others game and rarely did we play on a course none of us were familiar with. Sometimes we ended up having to take a bad tee shot on a or 3 to get someone’s drive in
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On 4/29/2024 at 9:28 AM, revkev said:
Currently I have two sets of irons that I alternate between (I have 5 or 6 other ones, 3 of which are on permanent loan to sons and a friend). I go through irons like most people go through putters or drivers. Honestly if I could play an entire set of woods with one wedge and a putter, I would.
Heres my current dilemma - the two iron sets are both Players Distance clubs - Wilson D7 forged which are almost 5 years old and a less than a year old set of Srixon ZX 5’s. Both are very appealing in the bag and over the ball - my eyes are still the eyes of a player even if my game isn’t quite there anymore.
Both have the exact same lofts with the exception of the G and A wedges. Both gave Mamiya Recoils that weigh 65 grams although the Srixon version is the newer dart recoil. The shafts in the Wilson’s are 1/4 inch longer, generally though I grip down a bit on those. The biggest difference is swing weight, D3 for tote Wilson’s and C9 for the Srixons.
when I take them to the range together and thinking about on the course I find that the Srixons are about 1/2 club longer and more forgiving but the dispersion pattern on the Wilsons is much tighter. I prefer the turf interaction of the Srixons but I do have trouble feeling the head and at times I feel as if I’m throwing the club head at the ball - something that my teacher does not like!!!! BTW he also does not like the heavier feel of the Wilson’s, he’s a strong advocate for lighter is better even for his pros and collegiate players - I’m one of his few regular guy students.
My guy is that I should be playing the Wilson’s and but the bullet and get the Srixon’s reshafted with something a bit heavier to see how that works. And yes I’ve tried the lead tape route but in the end it’s not the same as a different shaft.
Forgetting about that last paragraph which set would you game and why?
Have you put lead tape on the shaft?
how big is the dispersion difference?
Shafts are a timing device and feel is very important. I would look at face contact on both sets, if possible compare launch monitor data for dynamic loft, face angle, face to path, path, launch angle, spin and descent angle to see if there are any differences in the swing caused by the different shaft/head combos.
At the end of the day it going to come down to what set gives you the enjoyment of playing and helps you shoot lower scores.
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2 minutes ago, DerekB54 said:
Why I let that guy swing first is because he has 0 pressure. If he sprays it a little bit, no worries! I’ve got you. Swing free, hit big, and have no fear.
I think differently than most. It’s a good strategy, Cotton, but it’s worked out for me in the past.
Theres less pressure for that guy to go last. When he’s first he needs to be somewhat accurate to be able to take advantage of his distance and more pressure on the guys that are middle of the road distance wise to make up for his lost drive.
Strokes gained tells us closer to the hole is better than short and in the fairway.
Unless the long guy has no control then it really doesn’t matter where he goes in the rotation
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On 4/27/2024 at 10:06 AM, MissionMan said:
The scrambles we play require you to take a minimum 3 drives from each player, and a max of 6 from one. That does force you to adjust strategy for some holes where you want the shorter hitters to do well. On the holes we want the shorter hitting to score, we typically let the best driver hit first so it takes pressure off them.
This changes strategy a lot even if it’s only two have to count from each. If allowed we use par 3 tee shots from the shorter hitters to help keep the advantage on par 4s and 5s. We then get picky with tee shots on the rest of the holes but we don’t really change the order of tee shots and in some cases the last guy or last two won’t even hit a drive
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On 4/27/2024 at 12:00 AM, DerekB54 said:
Most teams have their fairway finder hit first so they know they have one in play. I’m that guy. I prefer to let our big hitters hit first, and if they mess up and we don’t have one, let me, the guy that is confident with the driver, take the pressure and hit the fairway. It seems backwards, but think about it: I’m accurate. I know I can keep it in play. If I happen to screw up first, it puts pressure on my team. Give me the pressure. I’ll focus more if I hit last and know I need to be perfect.
This is assuming those who have theong guys go last have guys that have no control over the drive and just swing all out.
The reality is for most teams that deploy the big hitter last is that guy also doesn’t lose the ball wayward very often and the two that go in the middle are longer and still was accurate as the short hitter who went first. The goal with the long guy going last in this scenario is he is free to swing without having to try and place the driver and still isn’t going all out on the swing
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On 2/9/2024 at 9:19 AM, skraeling said:
The disconnect between the forum and the main site is... kinda messy.
Main website and forum separation is pretty common for any site that has both.
the biggest of them off is that way so it’s not something unique to mgs.
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54 minutes ago, Luximpros said:
Jumping into the gambling discussion, I believe it's crucial to tread carefully, especially with online sports betting. It's like walking a tightrope; one wrong step can lead to a fall.
This thread has nothing to do with online gambling
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Not sure what you paid for it but there have been 4 sold on eBay for between $1600-almost $2000
I would expect the market to be limited based on several still up for sale so the price may end up dropping at some point.
just something to consider depending on your future plans
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1 hour ago, Notpaulrudd said:
I’m actually not terribly familiar with them but that does seem pretty strong.
46 and 48° wedges are pw wedge replacements for those who want to use a non set wedge. They aren’t that strong. Most current set pws are in that range and put a 44-45° on some sets
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4 hours ago, revkev said:
Isn’t 48 degrees the strongest loft they offer?
I was a little surprised at my results as well BTW - my PW is 44 degrees and it went 50,54,60 for me. That would be two 6 degree gaps at the bottom of my bag - I hit my PW 110 to 120 - I’m not confident that I will get 110 out of a 50 and I’m unlikely to want to hit my 60 full so if I’m getting 85 out of the 54 I’d have a lot of ground to cover with that club.
46° is the strongest loft for a vokey wedge.
Did you say you hit partial shots with your wedges? Especially the highest lofted club. If you hit pw 110-120 you don’t need to 110 out of the 50° if you got 100-105 that would be fine. Assuming at 85 max out of 54 which probably shouldn’t be a full swing wedge either you have 15ish yard gaps between wedge which isn’t bad.
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46 minutes ago, ballhawk said:
So as you said revamped eye2's would be as good as today's G430. Interesting perspective.......So in your estimation, are the 430's better than the i models mentioned?
The main reason I asked the question in the first place was because there seemingly is a following of eye 2 folks that are refurbishing these clubs with new modern shafts and bending the heads to 2 or 3 degrees stronger lofts, which I was unaware that they could be bent that much. Some of us just like the eye 2's for their design factor and adding more modern play ability only ads to the personal enjoyment of playing with them.
There are no bad clubs just bad fits. Not everyone including high handicaps need GI or SGI clubs and in some cases based on swing they are worse fits than a players distance or even something a little smaller.
vcog is pretty important and something like the i20/210/230 can be a bad fit for a sweeper because of where the vcog is.
then there is the launch and spin aspect of the design and the lower spin with higher launch can be an issue for some as the spin ends up too low.
the clubs can definitely be bent that much. Some shops or club builders won’t bend them that much or at all for the fear of breaking them, but they can definitely be bent up to 4° either way. If I were to ever have my Ping irons bent I would send them to Ping to have them bent. Ping will change the color code on them as well as update everything in their database as to the new specs.
im guessing they are adjusting lofts to get the ball in their preferred launch window
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You could save it and just buy a ds72 putter at retail.
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9 minutes ago, Byrnzee said:
Sorry for the confusion. I mean keeping my right (trail) arm tucked closer to my body on my backswing. Think towel drill or headcover in the armpit. When I try to artificially create power, I have a tendency to lift my right arm away from my body and form a chicken wing. So keeping a more compact arm structure in my backswing has helped with consistency.
This isn’t a great drill as it’s actually one that robs speed in the swing. The trail arm should separate from the body.
If you are getting disconnected it’s more than likely due to improper wrist set and use of the arms along with imroper sequence and/or rotation of the body
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13 hours ago, Byrnzee said:
I went to the range today to work on my swing after some inconsistent play on the course yesterday. One of the things I was focusing on today was keeping my right arm tucked more on the backswing to promote a more connected swing. I've also learned that feeling like I'm bending at my hips more has helped me to get a better turn at the top.
I also used the ProSENDR training aid to ensure I was reaching a good position at the top of the backswing as well as staying connected to start the downswing. I was really happy with how I was hitting the ball and hoping I can translate that feeling onto the course next weekend!
What does tucking the right mean?
What drill or tip pointed you to do that as a solution to not being connected?
- cksurfdude, William P and Rob Person
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Unless they are trying to get a read off your putt there are no rules to point to in this case. This is a common courtesy issue as far as them standing behind you on the tee or walking into your sight line on setup/swing
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9 hours ago, ILMgolfnut said:
Red is supposed to be the high-launch version of the Diamana, but clearly that's not working for me. I'm thinking there's a decent chance my next shaft will be lighter than 50g. I'm also thinking there's a better than decent chance I'm not gonna spend $750 on an Otto-Phlex, but I'm sure there are less expensive options to accomplish the same goals.
Edited 8 hours ago by ILMgolfnut
The design profile of a shaft doesn’t have as much influence for those who don’t have a late to real late release. Shafts themselves don’t launch or spin. They are a timing device. They can have an influence on dynamic loft but everything is dependent on the golfer and how the golfer delivers the club. This is where the things that get posted about feel come in to play. How a club is balanced and how it feels will have a role in how the club gets delivered which will have a role in how the ball launches. Hitting the ball 36’ in the air is indicative of some swing issues most likely lots of hanging back on the swing.
Lessons if not already taking them is what’s needed more than speed training. There a lots of power leaks in your swing and getting better sequencing and a more efficient swing will increase swing speed. Even if speed training added some speed to your swing your actual swing won’t be able to use the speed because the brain is going to have the body slow down in an effort ti make good contact with an out of position club.
otto-phlex is the expensive shaft is the made up name by one of the member air an experiment based on a YouTube video using a lighter and softer shaft to mimic the aut shaft design
- Steve F, cksurfdude, Rob Person and 1 other
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Depends on what’s going on within the group. If there’s no betting then I’m only focused on executing the shots in front of me and trying to shoot my best score.
if there’s betting then it’s a combo beating them and having my best round
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They would basically be the g430 irons and no i wouldn’t try them with stronger lofts. The i20, i210 and i230 are as good if not better than the eye2 and i5xx line is just as good.
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6 minutes ago, jolter1 said:
There can always be litigation, that is what lawyers live for. Just because the PGATour buckled doesn't mean LIV may or will still litigate ranking points, especially if by some quirk of fate, they purchase the DPWorldTour.
Other than the pga tour being on the board they have no role in what LIV not getting ranking points.Theres a process to get points, LIV went thru the process, the board said if you want points you need to do the following. LIV leadership said nope we aren’t going to do that and then later on said not only are we not going to change we are pulling out application. So are they going to argue that their own decision to was incorrect and needs to be reversed.
Well if they buy the DP word tour they wouldn’t have to litigate ranking points as the DP world tour has them, however if they changed the format for how the DP world tour runs events then they would likely lose their status and no longer receive points because they don’t meet the criteria.
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8 hours ago, jolter1 said:
In the back of my mind there is this gnawing feeling that no matter what LIV does, it will never acquire world ranking points which will result in a whole new wave of litigation
What litigation? The world ranking points is simple and the players could have been earning them had their leadership accepted the proposed changes from the owgr board. But not only did they not accept them they pulled their application so it’s all on LIV leadership, they have nobody to sue, they chose to not have their tour earn points
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How offer do you practice?
What do you do when you practice?
swing changes aren’t easy and take time and can take even longer to show up on the course.
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1 hour ago, KC Golf said:
For me it’s fairways hit since if I am losing a ball off the tee or in jail off the fairway, it impacts my score more than a three putt.
I’m sure it’s not that way overall statistically, but it seems that way for me.
If one is getting in trouble off the tee trying to hit the fairway isn’t going to help them. Just reducing dispersion will be better than hitting the fairway.
Pros dispersion is a lot wider than people think. It’s 65 yards wide off the tee.
The notion of hitting fairways leads to lower scores is outdated. Undertaking dispersion patterns and picking the appropriate target and shot shape is where people should focus.
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1 hour ago, DaveP043 said:
Agree completely. Another thing that SG shows is that 3-putts are often NOT a putting problem, but instead an approach problem. If you hit a few approach shots to 40 or 50 feet, you ARE going to 3-putt.
Yeah, I don't know about this. Hit a tee shot into the woods where you have to play sideways, hit a Penalty Area, you've lost a complete stroke, just like a 3-putt. Hit one OB, you've lost TWO strokes with a single swing. You're not getting those strokes back. Again, I'm not too worried about hitting fairways, but hitting the tee shot in play is critical.
The bolded part is very true
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Most grass ranges are at courses. You would need to follow their dress code policy and pay the range balls. Also figure out what days and times the grass portion is open if they use mats and grass.
Strategy with Scrambles
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Posted · Edited by RickyBobby_PR
That’s always something that can happen in a scramble when a stacked group shows up. A guy I worked with had a group that would play in scrambles and they were all around scratch but the scrambles didn’t ask for or use handicaps. Most scrambles I have played in handicaps weren’t used.
5 shots probably not in one round.
a group of 10 handicaps in most scrambles are at a disadvantage to start with. My group 10–12 was probably the highest at any time. The rest were all sub 10 and our games complimented each other