RickyBobby_PR

May 21

1 hour ago, RetiredBoomer said:

Got it, Ricky.

I make a point out of not letting life get in the way of important stuff.

Same and watching sports is low on the list of important stuff. My side gigs allow me to give back and help people. I’ll give us sports for that any day of the week

May 21

2 hours ago, RetiredBoomer said:

I didn't necessarily mean that an older person shouldn't gap out to 250 yard fairway shots.
I meant that THIS older person doesn't have to.

Are you an Orioles or a Nationals fan?
My Red Sox blow chunks this year.
I don't need to waste time watching those guys.
If my back were just a little bit better,
I could hit in that lineup.

Yankees fan. When I’m into watching. Im not into watching most sports these days. Time is occupied with two side gigs and life

May 21

7 minutes ago, RetiredBoomer said:

You do now!!!

Seriously, if you're older, you don't need to gap all the way out to 250 yard fairway shots, and thus the entire range of fairway shots doesn't require as many clubs to cover it.

This gives me the opportunity to have a complete 13.5, 18, 21, 24° wood set that I really like and still keep a favorite driving iron in the bag.

While almost everybody has a driver and a putter, I'm a utility club freak who adds a dedicated utility driving iron (I have several including a new one) and a dedicated utility sand club to my list of non-fairway clubs. I can do that because ten clubs cover my fairway shot range. Obviously, some people need more than ten fairway clubs.

I'm wondering if I should do a WITB signature.

One should gap out as far as they need based on their game and the courses they play.

how that gaps is different for each. I don’t care what the gap is between my driver and my fairway wood because they serve different purposes. My driver is to advance the ball as far as possible off the tee. Whatever my lowest lofted wood is which is usually between 16-17° is set for a certain distance off the deck and that gives me an idea of what it does off the tee as a second option. All my clubs in the rest of the bar are based off that. My wedges though are based off my 9i.

and to say an older person shouldn’t gap out to 250 is a broad generalization. I have several friends who are or even they were in their late 50s and early 60s still hit farther than that. One of my old coworkers was in the 250-260 off the tee in his late 60s but he was also in great shape still.

RetiredBoomer · May 21

8 minutes ago, RetiredBoomer said:

I suppose.

I don’t know any golfer who doesn’t have some kind of setup that doesn’t cover gapping between clubs. It may not be optimal but it’s setup for gapping with the clubs in the bag.

Some use their favorite club Ann build around it. Some may even have 2 of the same number iron but because of loft and design differences it covers their gapping needs. This is seen for some who use a combo set and the gap between the two sets needs to be filled. I had a 7i cb and a 7i players distance to fill a gap, they went different yardages despite the number stamped on them

May 21

15 minutes ago, JAFERD said:

“It’s on the consumer to be educated on business practices, what companies are doing releases and when.”

I couldn’t disagree more. One of the most important aspects of sales is customer education. In fact, educating and informing in good faith is a great way to earn more business. In my case, the fitter might have earned more business if he’d said, “You know it might not matter to you but Titleist should be releasing a new model in 2-3 months.”

Sales job is to sell you a product. It’s on the consumer to educate themselves on business practices for whatever company they are using for whatever service. Just as it’s the on the consumer to educate themselves on the product they are buying. When the consumer isn’t educated it’s when they make decisions they later regret. It’s one of the reasons that there are shady sales people or why people get taken advantage of. They don’t do their research and then get talked into buying things or paying for things they don’t need.

A good salesman might offer some knowledge but at the end of the day their job is get a sale. The good ones will find a solution to ones problem but it’s not their job to educate the consumer

JAFERD · May 21

16 minutes ago, ChitownM2 said:

Definitely no guarantee they will price match, but I've heard of them doing it before. At the very least they should come down to at least MSRP on the club/shaft combo which is only $800. There is no possible way in justifying a $250 build fee even with puring.

That is up to the consumer to determine if the cost of puring is worth it. One can turn down that service if they choose. If they came down to msrp as stated earlier it defeats the purpose of being a premium club builder and the services they offer. When paying for a club building service you are expecting to get exact build specs rather than then manufacturer tolerances for the build. That extra care takes time and costs money.

16 minutes ago, ChitownM2 said:

As for the shaft working with the next club, of course there are no guarantees but if it was the best shaft he hit with every head he tried across all the manufacturers he tried, there is a good chance that the shaft just works for his swing and will be a good fit with whatever his next driver is.

And the drivers that are coming out next release have been in design phase for about 5 years and are also will be moving towards dealing with the new ball specs. So the next Titleist driver release after this year will be 1 year before the new specs are the standard for conforming balls. The release after that will be between the dates for pros using the new ball and the amateurs.

May 21

13 minutes ago, RetiredBoomer said:

I imagine that's what a lot of low handicappers do.

Most golfers regardless of handicap do that.

May 21

10 hours ago, ChitownM2 said:

I still think you can go back to CC and tell them you'd like a price adjustment as they sold you something for $1050 that was available from Titleist for $800, worst they can say is no, but my guess is they will match the price to keep your business going forward.

Pretty sure that CC doesn’t do price matching. CC has two businesses. Their fitting business and their club building business which is fed to them thru their fitting business. You pay the price that CC charges for the club and their build process.

They are normally more expensive than ordering from an oem or retailed because they are charging you for the time to build the club and the cost of club. If they were in the price matching business they would just be better off charging the same price as everywhere else because everyone would price match what they get. That defeats the purpose of being a premium club building service. It’s no different than ordering from TXG before they were bought by CC or for those of use who order thru club builders like will peoples. If I want a tm head with a ventus velocore shaft from Will I am paying the $350 for the shaft rather than the $250 upcharge from TM.

That’s the nature of the business. It’s on the consumer to be educated on business practices, what companies are doing releases and when. Titleist has been on a 2 year release cycle for ever with the even year being driver and odd year irons. It’s not a surprise Titleist will be having a new driver out late summer or fall. Its also not news that they will probably tour seed it as the U.S. Open

10 hours ago, ChitownM2 said:

The other part of this is the shaft will still be perfectly good when the next titleist driver or the one after that comes out. He could also swap adapters if he wants to play this shaft in his next head so this isn't a total loss even if he does decide the next driver is a major improvement (although I agree that is highly unlikely

This may or may not be true. Not all shafts work with all heads including new releases from the same brand.

Josh Parker · May 20

Nope because I gap my bag based on distance needed in each slot and if I have two that are close I ether change loft or club type to correct the issue

vandyland · May 20

3 hours ago, Kaden_Marcell said:

I am currently using the Qi10 driver, and I genuinely feel that this driver just does not give me what I think I should be getting. Currently I do not have the proper shaft in it, as I spin the ball around 3000 with the driver, working on getting myself a Ventus Black. I am thinking about either "downgrading" to a TSR3 or even switching into the AI smoke Triple Diamond. My ball speed is comfortably around that 175-180 number and I just don't feel that the qi10 is doing it for me. Any recommendations or if you have these clubs let me know how you feel about them!

What’s your dynamic loft?

where on the face is your contact being made?

im assuming at your handicap path, face to path and face angle aren’t to crazy.

changing loft is probably going to be an easier and cheaper way to reduce spin, followed by a ball change.

shaft changes can hav no affect, a good effect or a bad effect based on how the weighting and feel change. I would go somewhere to try some shafts to see if they change anything before buying.

There is no downgrade going to a tsr3 as there are no bad drivers on the market just bad fits

Dweed · May 20

Handicap isn’t really a factor in buying any club because two people with the same handicap probably get to that number in different ways and have different swings.

Find a shape you like, use the brands fitting tool to get an idea of what will work for you. Try to find a place to test different wedges including different bounce and grinds.

Determine best shaft for your swing and then buy the wedges with the shafts that work for you.

Do a wedge fitting if possible

May 20

39 minutes ago, cnosil said:

Then there may be continued advice that may or may not help your driver swing.

Yeah not much can be done or said at this pint other than find a qualified instructor and have him/her look at the swing

silver & black · May 19

44 minutes ago, Stuka44 said:

Rules are supposed to make "games, all games" as fair as possible. For the game of golf to adopt the attitude, that to do nothing, for weekend players who it is factually known are playing under these glaringly inequitable, conditions, and circumstances compared to professional players, is arrogance, and indifference, that is both intended, and purposeful.

They do provide fairness. They ensure we all play by the same standards. They aren’t there to ensure equal outcomes from a shot. Otherwise the golfer who hits a flag stick and the ball rolls off the green or 20’ to the side would get the same outcome as the person who hit the flag stick and the ball goes in the hole or vice versa that guy would have to play the snkform 20’ because it happens to someone else somewhere else

May 19

3 hours ago, Kenny B said:

Really? I must really be unlucky!! Happens to me 2-3 times a round, with most being in layup areas for approaches to the green over water. Everyone lays up there, but no one repairs their divot. Maybe that’s just the nature of munis, and the less than 1% occurs at nice country clubs.

Even when I played a majority of my rounds on the base where maintenance at times could resemble a muni the number of times that myself or anyone I played with hit into a divot in the fairway can be counted on one hand.

I don’t even remember the last time I’ve played out of divot on any course anywhere that I’ve played.

silver & black · May 19

14 minutes ago, bens197 said:

I also understand that if my playing group experiences an event where someone’s ball lands on a root I am telling them to move the ball. There’s an ethical component where preserving someone’s wrist is more important than the performative display of hitting a ball off an object that could severely injure them…besides, if they’re on a root they’re likely in the woods and that’s penal enough.

Relief is already an option. It’s called an unplayable lie. If they are keeping a handicap then the ethical component is they ply by the rules for that handicap round. If they aren’t keeping a handicap then they can do whatever they want for relief.

If people want to have a good lies in the fairway every time they play they have that option by playing preferred lies per the rulebook.

Its all there for them to use to their advantage

May 19

I am dropping my trail shoulder, that’s why I’m confused but I think I’m swaying and gliding forward and hitting the ball before my club starts up in the arc ! Thanks

Dropping the trail shoulder isn’t a good thing. It’s the cause of your issues. Swaying is also going to make things worse.

But as mentioned above by cnosil without a video any idea of what you are doing or why things are happening will be hard to say.

Kenny B · May 19

On 5/17/2024 at 12:42 PM, Joseph j Andreola said:

I have a question, why do I struggle to hit up on the ball off the T??? When I T it up correctly it goes almost straight up, regardless of loft , I’m dropping my trail shoulder tilting my head desperately trying to hit up on the ball but it’s always the same line drive ! Am I missing something???? Or should I just punch myself in the face???? LOL

Actually trying to hit up on the ball is causing your problem. Dropping your trail shoulder is the incorrect way to shallow the club and causes swing issues and you are adding loft if the ball is going up like you mention.

You need to fix your swing and learn to swing more neutral and the natural swing arc create upwards angle of attack.

2-3° up is all one needs.

DaveP043 · May 16

2 hours ago, DaveP043 said:

In spite of this diatribe, I challenge you to come up with a set of rules for us "common folk" that can be consistently enforced across all but the highest levels of golf, but which don't completely compromise the basic principles of golf. Play the course as you find it, play your ball as it lies.

And to be "fair", I've never said golf is "fair", there are many many situations where you don't get the result that your shot deserves. Perhaps you can promulgate rules that are more fair, where you discard good breaks and bad alike, and somehow always get what your shot deserves.

Its easier to claim things aren’t fair and use the so I’m not going to follow their rules when I play and the ones I don’t like need to change to make the game easier for me.

Many times it comes down to the score on the card and people not wanting to sacrifice a stroke or two because of some rule

DaveP043 · May 16

2 hours ago, Stuka44 said:

This is my own opinion, but lets not forget balls lost in play(not in pond or OB), that is a rule that, to the level of "statistical insignificance" doesn't apply to professionals, because fans or marshals find their balls for them. "Hey you're not a professional, so because of that, you deserve to have to take a penalty stroke, for the blind tee shot over the hill, with no OB, or water within 3 miles, into rough 12 inches deep, because it hasn't been able to be mowed yet, and its the end of May."

It's fair because we only really care about the professionals, and we expect everyone who wishes to participate in our game who is not a professional, to blindly follow our rules, and consider yourself less deserving, because we the people who make the rules already believe this.

I have people looking for my ball when I play. They watch the ball all the way, help find it when possible and vice versa do the same for them.

The rules of golf apply equally to everyone who plays under them. That’s what’s great about golf, doesn’t matter what level you are at the rules are the same, the equipment is the same.

I never understood the complaining that pga professionals have some advantage because of how their tour runs a tournament. They are putting on a show for their audience. Everything they do is for tv and to put the players and event in the spotlight. It’s all for show.

Byrnzee · May 16

5 hours ago, Byrnzee said:

Most amateurs think shallow and they let the clubhead fall back behind them vs. lowering their arms to start the downswing.

It’s actually 3 different things that happen in transition. The arms lower, the wrists ulnar deviate(release) while also adding flexion to the lead wrist (bowing) and the trail elbow unfolds.

Demonstrated in Cast A of NTC

https://www.instagram.com/reel/C2nwbRIPaIf/?igsh=MTR1azU3cGVxNWswdA==

May 16

They don’t

Rob Person · May 16

There’s no bad woods on the market, just bad fitting designs which as face, weight and cog.

A fitting isn’t a demo day so you aren’t going to get to hit every possible wood out there with every possible shaft combo. So don’t get disappointed you didn’t get to try certain clubs or shafts

Let the fitter know what you are interested in and then let the process determine what works even if the fitter suggests something not on your preferred list. Of the fitter is good he/she will understand your swing and what you want out of the wood and will use their expertise to get the right setup.

If you just want to try a bunch of heads and see what you like or just to demo heads then go to a store that has demo clubs and hit them there.

May 16

I bet if you looked at all pros you will see that the club regardless of iron or wood has a small gap between the face and ball.

i know ive seen it with Tiger, Rory and JT

robinwellsgolf · May 14

Everything in my bag has been fitted for my swing and anything that I add is tested to ensure it matches what works for my swing unless I’m just curious about something new and blind but close to my specs knowing it’s probably only staying in then bag for a short period of time before being sold or traded in unless it and just outperforms what I already have.

Ive been fit enough times to know what works and what doesn’t that just a short time on the range I know if its a fit or not

Rob Person · May 14

1 hour ago, Sanjeev Thakur said:

Ready golf is a great thing for non-tournament games. A lot of time is lost in looking at the ball till it lands even though your playing partner is spotting the ball for you. Many a time marking the ball is not essential on the green too or a quick mark and clean the ball process suffices. Another delay is when iron covers are used

Disagree on all this. Some people are bad at spotting a ball so more eyes are better especially when heading for trouble. Also some people get distracted and forget the mark they picked out which can affect finding the ball.

marking the ball on the green isn’t what causes slow play. It’s the golfers who wait til it’s their turn to do any type of prep for their put. Headcovers dont cause any additional delay. Like most things it’s those who are unaware of their own delays for doing things.

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