[Impact alignment ?]

2 hours ago, RickyBobby_PR said:

You can’t return it because of droop.

as you mention the pros return the handle higehr than address so why would anyone try to return the shaft at the same angle if the best in the world aren’t.

The golfer isn’t in the same position at impact that they were at address. They are further into their lead side and the lead side is raising thru impact. Handle goes up and club face goes down.

 

 

fascinating really. Why wedges and short irons tend to go left for people. And same person can miss mid and long shafted clubs right 

[Impact alignment ?]

1 hour ago, RickyBobby_PR said:

You can’t return it because of droop.

as you mention the pros return the handle higehr than address so why would anyone try to return the shaft at the same angle if the best in the world aren’t.

The golfer isn’t in the same position at impact that they were at address. They are further into their lead side and the lead side is raising thru impact. Handle goes up and club face goes down.

 

You mean handle lifted slightly, hands ahead, toe down slightly, square face . Is that what you call droop ?

[Impact alignment ?]

How difficult is it to return the golf club at the same lie angle as it was at address?Only tour player who I could tell who did this was Ben Hogan.Even tour pros return the club with the shaft above the original start line.How was Hogan able to do this? Bubba Watson appears to be the highest above the start line that I’ve reviewed 

 

adding … would say this is the handle of the club at impact. Having it at same level at impact at address. Or above the starting point.Ben Hogan was the closest I’ve slow motioned to having same address and impact handle position DTL.Most, if not all current tour players raise it. Question is why ? And the driver is where it really shows the difference 

[Worst vacation destination/ or biggest bust]

What has been your most disappointed vacation destination you’ve been to? 
 

or biggest bust 

Ours was Myrtle Beach, during an unexpected back to back tropical  storms. We couldn’t  back out of the time share unit.So sat inside all week watching the rain pound on the drive way.

[Most unorthodox swings (amateur or pro)]

RIP to this gentleman.But besides the loop, he actually comes down on the ball very steeply.Opposite of a Matt Wolfe move.

[Most unorthodox swings (amateur or pro)]

Feel free to post the most unusual.But effective swings you find during your social media searches.And maybe mention how you think they get it to work for them 

 

[Rooting for or Against]

I was going to add that back in the 90’s. Was invited to a 2 man match play event.The first round we played the winners and were beaten 8 up.We got slaughtered.Our opponents were a dad and son team.The son held the whole team and was striking the ball exquisitely.So instead of cheering against I was just observing what he was doing better than me.Even asked him after the round about his swing and he confirmed what I saw.So yes we got stomped, and no I didn’t cheer against.But can say I learned a tip or two by watching his masterful play 

[Rooting for or Against]

Question for the group as it is something I have been thinking about. If you are playing match play and are competing, are you rooting for or against your opponent, shot by shot? 

Meaning as they tee off, do you hope they find bunkers, etc. 

There is no right or wrong answer, but was genuinely curious as it came up recently.

[This is unique]

This method was an eye opener for me.When the videos first started coming out it was a small following.Now he has really grown In just a few weeks.It truly proved to me how so many of us will try anything to just improve slightly.And it just isn’t a small margin that will try anything either.Its a vast majority of golfers.Heck, I’ve even seen tour pros try the funkiest putting strokes to just improve a stroke or two.Its such a hard game 

[This is unique]

this is something for sure.Cant remember if it was Monte or someone else.But they said they like the idea 

[Learning to Swing... Your swing vs Generic swing]

“The golf swing is maybe the most un natural feeling motion I’ve ever done athletically.If it feels natural.  I can assure you I’m doing it wrong” Bing Crosby 
 

“its like the bizarro world in super man”  anonymous hacker 

“if you do opposite of what you always done in your swing. You will have made the perfect swing” Ben Hogan 

“Why did I even take up this game” 90% of handicap golfers 

 

be honest with yourself and the instructor.If your a weekend warrior don’t expect a miracle.Tell the instructor how much time you have available to make the changes.Any instructor should be able to accommodate you  

[This is unique]

On 3/12/2024 at 8:33 AM, cksurfdude said:

Unique - no kidding! Didn't watch the whole vid but now I am intrigued .. tho this may literally be unique, ie. a true one off, for this one person...

I'd be afraid of wrecking my lead wrist but heck may grab a wedge and give it a test into the garage net.

I’m not sure I even want to tackle this.I found it on YouTube and thought it was pretty interesting stuff.

[This is unique]

https://youtu.be/ipVNx8T6QDc?si=QEv1yCG0Ko4LS0_N
 

[This can be confusing 🫤]

Great conversation here.And as a side note.My good friend is still diagnosing the Ernest Jones handkerchief drill.Over analyzing is what makes him tick.

[This can be confusing 🫤]

All excellent responses as usual here.And agree about knowing Monte or GG well enough to critique.
 

Here is a story adding to this.One of my old golfing buddies who is 83 now and can only chip and putt.He was a decent golfer in his prime with a background in engineering and physics.I sent him some golf books this winter keeping his mind occupied after a life saving surgery.The books were Jim Hardy,Ernest Jones,Gerry Hogan and a few others I can’t remember.Anyways he dived into them with a curious mind as usual.Every section of those books he would call me with a rebuttal.Foe example, Ernest Jones talks about a handkerchief drill.His rebuttal is what material is his handkerchief versus his at home.What was the temp outside of the experiment conducted in the book..as handkerchief wool adheres differently to temps.Things like that .. hahah.He is a great soul, but a prime example how easy it is to go overboard or over think things.I told him if he met an Ernest Jones instructor first hand it might be easier.Its amazing how our minds might interpret a video or book differently than others.And how our feels are so unique.I can see how the confusion can just completely overwhelm the teacher and student. 

[This can be confusing 🫤]

For people jumping into the swing genre's.Say someone watched a George Gankas video on freezer drill-pivot driven swing.Than the same person watched a Monte hands and arms lead the swing.Which idea would you go with?Both teachers have had their success stories and I’m sure have had failures as well.This is imho is where the big divide comes in golf teachings.Body driven swing versus hands and arms driven 

What is your thoughts ?

im a combination of the two.But for people on the rope what camp do they join ?

[Great video on using ground forces]

I think every motion of the swing that we take needs to be watched and analyzed by a teaching pro.As simple as the process of moving a ball from Pt A to Pt B.The process of doing it is as complex as making missiles. It’s quite amazing how multi faceted this game can be 

[Monte Scheinblum- No Turn Cast - Does it make sense?]

 

[Great video on using ground forces]

One thing I like is how he keeps the swing athletic.Or moving and not micro managing.Always felt that was the secret to a proper swing

But one issue I have with ground forces.Is when do you squat? When do you shoot up off the ground? And how to you add in the turn to all of this? 
 

I can see so many of us jacking this up without proper one on one work with a good pro 

[Winter 🥶 practice]

Anyone else getting a little burned out hitting off of mats into a net? Or hitting under a heated roof off a mat into a snow covered range? Some of you have great at home setups.But some of us have to travel to hit that ball around.Im thinking this might be my last season doing it.Maybe just slow motion air swings with no ball in my basement next year.or putting on my rug.

what is your guys thoughts on winter practice ?

[What Took Your Game from Good to Great?]

Separating my lower from upper half in transition.And not letting the club kick out early leading to pull hooks and pulls 

[Do you have a drill that has helped improve your game and that you would like to share with the community?]

Best drill is hitting a ball swinging 10 miles an hour.And at the same time I leave the club up and try and open my core towards the target as soon as I can

[Sorting through Swing Thoughts / Accountability thread]

I like your backswing thoughts. Same thing I’m working on. But I start at the backswing (look in mirror make sure I’m set). Than I go thru it.Per a drill from my instructor.For me the flying right elbow and being stuck in transition is a killer to break 

[Sorting through Swing Thoughts / Accountability thread]

What I was trying to say is you need more upper body staying closed. And lower body opening.  A feeling of your clubhead weighing 1000 lbs. as your lower body turn away from it.That is what I’m working on. And I understand it isn’t a one size fits all feel

some need more body rotation feel. Others more arms and hand winning the race.Its endless I know 
 

[Post Your Swing]

Swing after working hard with online striker academy.Cant wait to get back for hands on work with them this spring.Hands on is the only way I can do this 

 

 

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