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DaveP043 last won the day on May 22 2020

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  1. There are lots of factors, you have to look at them all when deciding. A few that I can think of: Cost. Yearly dues, plus cart fees (if required, or if you'll use them). I look at my monthly dues as a single item for the year, I get more than my money's worth in the good months, lose out in the winter, it just has to balance right for the year as a whole. Availability. Can you get tee times when you want to play? Can you play in a reasonable time? Can you bring guests? Are there too many outside events that limit availability for members? Fitting in. Is the membership welcoming, will you fit into groups, will you find playing partners? Course Quality. Both layout and conditioning are important. Practice Facilities. Range, putting greens, chipping areas, whatever you want, and at what (additional?) cost? Drive time. Is it close enough that you'll make the time to use the facilities. Peripherals. Pool, tennis, dining, whatever else might be attractive for you and/or your family. Did that list help, or just make it more complicated?
  2. I guess those hours of classes and study are starting to pay off! Edit to add: These questions will be sure to keep my on my toes. After taking the USGA Rules Workshop this Spring, getting a good score on the Exam, I'm scheduled to begin my officiating career just after Labor Day at a MAPGA Fourball at Old Hickory in Manassas, VA.
  3. You're right about Boundary Objects, you don't get relief from them. Its also acceptable for a Committee to define artificial objects on a course as Integral Objects, and you don't get relief from Integral Objects. A couple of examples include stone walls crossing the course at North Berwick, and both Granny Clark's Wynd across 18 and the actual road on 17 at the Old Course. I'm not sure if that wall on 17 is a Boundary Object or an Integral Object. I believe that in general the silo on the golf course would be an Immovable Obstruction, and you'd qualify for free relief if it impacts your stance or area of your intended swing. You would NOT get relief if the silo was not on the golf course, i.e. if it's located out of bounds, or if your ball is in a penalty area (16.1a(2)).
  4. I'm the same way, I keep my putting practice pretty limited. A bit of short-range practice to work on hitting my line, and a bit of longer practice to work on speed, and I'm done. That's two of the three components of putting, and I use Aimpoint for green-reading.
  5. Although I've seen occasions where the practice green is different from the greens on the course, is there an alternative to using the practice green? I don't know about anyone else, but I don't have access to the course's greens before a round of golf, the practice green is unavoidable. And in a stroke play competition, you're not allowed to practice on the course prior to your round, two practice putts result in a DQ penalty. I warm up on the practice green, hit longer putts to understand the speed there, and try to adjust if I find the greens on the course are different. I look at the green surface, I feel for firmer or softer turf, and take that into account through my round.
  6. This link should get you to the right spot, for either iOS or Android: https://www.usga.org/content/usga/home-page/rules-hub/rules-of-golf-apps.html or this one if you prefer the R&A, but they should be identical: https://www.randa.org/Apps
  7. Yeah, trying to make and expecting to make are two vastly different things. I know at least one 15-handicapper who gets disgusted when he misses a 20-footer by an inch. But he's a doofus.
  8. I'm just picking this one because it seems representative of many. No matter how good you are, you're always going to have some variation in distance. You'll hit some longer than you intend to, and some shorter. That variability, the size of your "scatter pattern" will increase with increasing length of putt. I used 10% of the length of the putt in my earlier post, I think that's a reasonable goal for most of us. When I'm trying to make a putt, my goal is to get just about every putt at least to the hole, which means that the center of the "scatter pattern" is a couple feet beyond the hole. That's reasonable when I'm 10 or 15 feet away, my longest efforts will be a foot or a little more past the center of the pattern, so maybe 3 feet past the hole. But if I'm 40 feet away, and I want the short end of the pattern to be at the hole, the center of the pattern would need to be as much as 4 feet past the hole, and the longest end would be 8 feet past. That's a recipe for 3-putting. And please don't tell me you don't ever miss your intended distance by 4 feet, we all do. Strokes Gained data shows that PGA Tour pros 3-putt from 40 feet more often (10%) than they 1-putt (4%), and their "scatter patterns" are centered at the hole. For us lesser-skilled mortals, trying to hit every putt past the hole in order to make, regardless of distance, is likely to lead to higher scores. Of course some of this is semantics. When I'm putting from 40 feet its important to me that my intended speed is just enough to get the ball to the hole. Yes, I'm trying to make it, but the primary focus is having no more than 2 putts.
  9. I'd say that somewhere between 10 and 20 feet is where my intention gradually changes. I think its realistic to expect distance control to within about 10% of the distance of the putt. So if I'm aiming it 2 feet past the hole, and I'm 10 feet away, my longest first putt will end up another foot further away, 3 feet past. I can make most of those. If I'm aiming 2 feet past the hole from 20 feet, and go 10% past that, I'm 4 feet away, and those start to become miss-able. At 30 feet, 40 feet, that same 10% long miss becomes a real cause for 3 putts. The way I think of it is that I gradually change my planned ending distance as I'm further from the hole. Closer than 10 feet, I want to hit the putt a couple feet past, to give myself a chance to make it. From much over 20 feet. I want to die it at the hole, so my worst putts aren't 4 or 5 feet beyond the hole. As an aside, this is what the best players in the world do. Mark Broadie shows "scatter diagrams" of PGA Tour players. From closer, the center of the distribution is past the hole. For longer putts, the center of the "shotgun blast" is centered pretty much right on the hole.
  10. From a traditionalist standpoint, it wouldn't qualify based on its geologic setting, as its built on a closed landfill. But its possible that the fill soil imported to build it could give it a very links-like playing character. Is it mostly sand, is the grass cut very short, does it play really firm? In the photos I've seen, the fairways and greens look to be a very bright green, lush, which isn't typical of either the grass or the maintenance practices at links-like courses. If I remember correctly from the 2014 US Open, Mr. Trump really disliked the "brown" look at Pinehurst #2, so he may have chosen to have his course be maintained to a different standard than real links.
  11. Well, I survived my trip, and had a blast. Pertinent to this discussion, Sand Valley, Mammoth Dunes, and the Sandbox (17 holes par-3) played very much like the Scottish and Irish links of my memory from tee to green, very firm and very tightly cropped grass. Putting was very reasonable from a long ways away, as were any number of chip and run options, and balls could bounce onto the green from well short when the terrain allowed it. What was different was that the greens were very firm (typical of links), pretty dang fast (not typical), and very contoured(not typical), something that I don't remember from my trips abroad.
  12. When you read the Definition of Penalty Area in the Rules (you DID look up the rule, right?) you find that the edge of a Penalty Area can be defined by "its natural boundaries (that is, where the ground slopes down to form the depression that can hold the water)." Interpretation 17.1a/1 seems to support the use of the natural boundaries. Or if you can find the hole where the stake was originally driven, you could use that. The other possible option is to use the nearest adjacent stakes. A stake laying on the ground is a moveable obstruction, but doesn't define anything. Edit: I know, that first bit sounds kind of sarcastic. But if you're interested in learning and playing by the rules, you really SHOULD learn to read the Rules for yourself. You can get the Rules on an app for your mobile phone for handy reference on the course, or over a drink after you're done.
  13. I'd be very happy to give these a test.
  14. I've had 3 aces, including one at my home club, and the course has never given me anything. It reminds me of the immortal Arlo Guthrie, who famously wrote the following line: "I didn't get nothing, I had to pay $50 and pick up the garbage" Well I didn't get nothing, and I had to pay the bar bill! And it was worth every penny.
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