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DaveP043 last won the day on June 18 2016

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  1. Shouldn't be any, unless the course has changed. As I understand it, the current USGA model will be used worldwide for Course Rating and Slope. I know that gets tweaked occasionally, but US courses don't need to be re-rated to comply with the WHS.
  2. That has been available for a while, and is a really good description of the various existing systems, and of the significant changes that will occur. Still to be answered, at least for those of us in the USGA areas, are questions about what types of scores will be acceptable, whether we will still have to estimate the "most likely score", any requirement for attestation, etc. I'm hoping to attend one of the Handicap Rule seminars to be held in my area to learn more.
  3. In looking at the rules, I don't see a real mechanism for changing the Ruling by either a referee or the Committee once you started play on your extra holes. "Where a referee makes an incorrect ruling on the final hole of a match, it should be corrected at any time up until the result of the match is final, or if the match goes to extra holes, until either player makes a stroke from the next teeing area." In the setting of a private club, I wouldn't publicize this too broadly, its not a good thing to make the pro look bad, but I probably would have a private conversation with him. Similarly, I might have the same discussion with the other guy, to let him understand exactly what the Rules say. You seem to have a good attitude about this, taking it in stride, but you might be able to help other folks learn something.
  4. This is a factor in decision-making. If you can only stop the ball on the green with the kind of spin you get from a full swing, then play for a full swing. If you are required to carry the ball onto the green, due to water, bunkers, terrain, and you need spin to stop the ball, make sure that you have a full enough swing to spin it. On the other hand, if even a solid spinning shot won't stop (as in much of Scotland), or if you can bounce the ball onto the green, you might as well be closer to the green if possible. My recommendation still applies, with just a little work you'll get closer to the pin when you're hitting the shot from closer to the hole. That approach has definitely worked for me, just through giving myself the opportunities on the golf course.
  5. You are 100% right, Rule 17.1c specifically says that once a ball has been put into play to take relief from a Penalty Area, the original ball is no longer in play and must not be played, even if the original ball is found outside of the penalty area within the 3-minute search period. On a separate issue, a player isn't allowed to play two balls in a match play situation (20.1b(4)). He is required to choose his action, and the opponent (you) has the choice to request a ruling on the matter in a timely manner, usually before either of you tees off on the next hole. (20.1b(2)). In this case, he'd have played a "wrong ball" when he played his 2nd ball instead of continuing with his 3rd, and would be assessed the General Penalty (loss of hole). For better or worse, golf professionals aren't always rules experts. This is a very good reason to download the USGA Rules app to your phone, so that you have access to the rules when these kinds of things arise.
  6. Instead of looking at par, look at Course Rating, or look at your differentials. Of course shooting par from 400 yards shorter isn't the same, but its not cheating. You probably have to shoot 68 or 69 from 6300 to have the same differential as 72 from 6700 yards.
  7. I haven't read Broadie's book, but I believe he did collect data from all levels of players, and the results are pretty consistent. Shorter shots result in improved proximity. This isn't for every individual player, but hold true for a majority of any skill level. Even if you're not confident, you'll probably get it closer from 70 yards than from 110. For a good player like the OP, its not all that difficult to improve those partial wedge shots. If you want to improve decision-making, I recommend that you read "Lowest Score Wins." Full disclosure, this is written by the owner of another golf website, but it presents a very clear and logical system for choosing the correct club and aiming location for each shot, along with a lot of other good information.
  8. I tested the original Snell MTB in 2016, and the Snell MTB -X this Spring. I don't know for sure whether I got anyone to play the X, but I'm definitely responsible for a number of my friends trying Snells and eventually choosing to play Snell golf balls
  9. The World Golf Handicap System will take effect in the US in January 2020. Among the changes will be an adjustment for abnormal course or weather conditions. There are lots of resources at the USGA website, but this is one of the better descriptions I've found: http://productionggs.s3.amazonaws.com/WHS-whitepaper.pdf See pages 12-13 for a description of the Playing Conditions Calculation.
  10. As I said, I do't know much about them. Have you read the reviews here?
  11. I don't know anything about the various types of data collection, but it IS legal to collect that data during a competition. It is NOT acceptable to process or interpret the information gathered during the round. Check 4.3.a(3) https://www.usga.org/content/usga/home-page/rules/rules-2019/rules-of-golf/rules-and-interpretations.html#!ruletype=fr&section=rule&rulenum=4&subrulenum=3
  12. From the Definitions: So you certainly could have cleared away all the snow, both on the green and in the General Area, treating the snow as a loose impediment. You could also have taken relief from the snow, treating it as Temporary Water, so dropping it within 1 clublength of the nearest point of complete relief. Since your ball was on the apron, you wouldn't get "line of play" relief from Temporary Water on the green, but once you took relief for stance and swing you may have not needed it.
  13. This does make it impossible for you to post your score for handicap.
  14. I've only played Tot Hill Farm once, and I wasn't crazy about it. I really enjoy Tobacco Road, and liked Stonehouse and Royal New Kent when I played them. Its been forever, but I played Caledonia and True Blue way back when. For all of them I bought the golf course yardage book, and that helped a whole lot. I've played a few Pete Dye courses, all in the last dew years, and I generally enjoy them. Most of the time it seems that there's reasonable room off the tee, and things just get tighter and tougher as you get closer to the green. If you're having even a little trouble, they can get pretty punitive. PB Dye, his son, doesn't seem to be as penal. I've played the course in MD just once, and a few others in Myrtle Beach a few decades back. The one in MD did seem to have a number of blind tee shots where they could easily have been avoided. I don't mind when it fits the terrain, especially in really old courses where little or no earth was moved, but to make a blind shot with no obvious reason isn't my favorite design.
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